Family values by Obama

[Sweet Tart]

http://www.mombian.com/2008/08/04/obama-vs-mccain-on-lgbt-families/#more-2352

It looks weird, so I'm not c/p'ing the whole post :shrug

Barack Obama, in response to a letter from the Family Equality Council:

While we live in a nation that is enriched by a vast array of diverse traditions, cultures and histories, it is our commonality that most defines us. The desire to build a life with a loved one, to provide for a family and to have children who will grow and thrive—these are desires that all people share, regardless of race, sex, religion, sexual orientation or gender identity. My own experience has taught me this lesson well. I was born to a single mother, my devoted grandparents helped raise me, and then I married the woman of my dreams and had two beautiful daughters.
We know that the cost of the American dream must never come at the expense of the American family. For decades we’ve had politicians in Washington who talk about family values, but we haven’t had policies that value families. Instead, it’s harder for working parents to make a living while raising their kids. It’s even harder to get a break.
That’s why I’ll double spending on quality after-school programs—so that you can know your kids are safe and secure. And that’s why I’ll expand the Family Medical Leave Act to include more businesses and millions more workers; to let parents participate in school activities with their kids; and to cover elderly care. And we’ll finally put federal support behind state efforts to provide paid family and medical leave. We’ll require employers to provide seven paid sick days each year. We’ll enforce laws that prohibit caregiver discrimination. And we’ll encourage flexible work schedules to better balance work and parenting for mothers and fathers. That’s the change that working families need.
We have to do more to support and strengthen LGBT families. Because equality in relationship, family, and adoption rights is not some abstract principle; it’s about whether millions of LGBT Americans can finally live lives marked by dignity and freedom. That’s why we have to repeal laws like the Defense of Marriage Act. That’s why we have to eliminate discrimination against LGBT families. And that’s why we have to extend equal treatment in our family and adoption laws.
I’ll be a president that stands up for American families—all of them.


:roar

[sparks]

I’ll be a president that stands up for American families—all of them.

:cheer

[My Winter Storm]

This is why you should all vote for Obama. This is a man who actually cares about the rights of citizens.

[patriotsblade]

:woot

[Trueblue]

:paclap

[cassandra]

This is why you should all vote for Obama. This is a man who actually cares about the rights of citizens.


I cannot imagine people really believe that but to each their own.

[Trueblue]

I cannot imagine people really believe that but to each their own.

I can't believe it's hard for you to believe that, actually.

[BartonX]

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

[Trueblue]

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

A perfect description of Barton.

[Cookie Parker]

I cannot imagine people really believe that but to each their own.

Based upon what in that article?

[BartonX]

I cannot imagine people really believe that but to each their own.

It was said a long time ago that these kind of people are not of a sound mind. What you are witnessing Sandy, is the proof of that ancient wisdom. :)

[Cookie Parker]

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

Oh no you don't....YOU republicans inflict this blindness all on your own....

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g4/cookiepie_2006/Democrat%20avatars/manwithheadupass.jpg

Remove it and see what the republicans have done to your nation.

[BartonX]

Based upon what in that article?

No, she was refering to the utterly amazing folly of a liberal attempting to think. :snicker

[BartonX]

Oh no you don't....YOU republicans inflict this blindness all on your own....

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g4/cookiepie_2006/Democrat%20avatars/manwithheadupass.jpg

Remove it and see what the republicans have done to your nation.

What blindness??? we can see perfectly that we have been dealt a white lab rat and ya'll have a black pariah, I mean Messiah. :rofl

[Cookie Parker]

No, she was refering to the utterly amazing folly of a liberal attempting to think. :snicker

As opposed to the republican...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g4/cookiepie_2006/Democrat%20avatars/manwithheadupass.jpg

Where the hell did that thought go anyway? republican chant?:Q

[Cookie Parker]

What blindness??? we can see perfectly that we have been dealt a white lab rat and ya'll have a black pariah, I mean Messiah. :rofl

Ah, you shall know the false prophets by their racism, sexism, and stupidity.:theman

[BartonX]

Ah, you shall know the false prophets by their racism, sexism, and stupidity.:theman

Not exactly, I think ye shall know them by their pointy shoes, greased back hair, garlic breath and their ability to sing soprano. :)

[BartonX]

As opposed to the republican...

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g4/cookiepie_2006/Democrat%20avatars/manwithheadupass.jpg

Where the hell did that thought go anyway? republican chant?:Q

Well linking de Obama to family values is like linking Heidi Fleish to virtue, except with greater distance and far less aplomb. :rofl :LL :lmao :snicker

[Trueblue]

Why doesn't Obama have family values? You mean because he cheated on his first wife after she became disabled, and then went on to marry one of the women he cheated with who was a rich heiress, and then went on to have a dalliance with a lobbyist?

Oh, wait a minute. That's your guy. My guy has been married once, has two children, and isn't linked to any other women.

Maybe your definition of family values is...valueless.

[cassandra]

Why doesn't Obama have family values? You mean because he cheated on his first wife after she became disabled, and then went on to marry one of the women he cheated with who was a rich heiress, and then went on to have a dalliance with a lobbyist?

Oh, wait a minute. That's your guy. My guy has been married once, has two children, and isn't linked to any other women.

Maybe your definition of family values is...valueless.

For me it has nothing to do with any of that. I could care less about that for him or any candidate. My issues with him revolve around his political agenda.

Based upon what in that article?

I do not believe Obama and his promises. He is wrong based on this quote "We know that the cost of the American dream must never come at the expense of the American family." The American dream cost many families the most, their sons or fathers.

He is just a socialist in sheep clothing trying to convince liberals that he is the right person by throwing the words LGBT in the mix.

[Trueblue]

The definition of socialist has gotten completely bizarre. Any proposal that might conceivably benefit any citizen is "socialist".

[cassandra]

Any person who wants the rich of the nation to shelter the poorest of the nation is a socialist in my book.

[sparks]

For me it has nothing to do with any of that. I could care less about that for him or any candidate. My issues with him revolve around his political agenda.



I do not believe Obama and his promises. He is wrong based on this quote "We know that the cost of the American dream must never come at the expense of the American family." The American dream cost many families the most, their sons or fathers.

He is just a socialist in sheep clothing trying to convince liberals that he is the right person by throwing the words LGBT in the mix.

:think That doesn't even make any sense. Most politicians back away from even talking about gay issues. :shrug

And really if we think about it the backbone of America is her families...and war only breaks them up.

[sparks]

The definition of socialist has gotten completely bizarre. Any proposal that might conceivably benefit any citizen is "socialist".

In this day and age it seems if one is a Dem, they are labeled "socialist" by those on the right.

[Trueblue]

The rich have been sheltering the poor since Bible times. This is not a new idea. And yes, it was mandatory, just like our taxes.

[cassandra]

The rich have been sheltering the poor since Bible times. This is not a new idea. And yes, it was mandatory, just like our taxes.

There are levels that are unhealthy and make it socialist. When we all have to be equal that is socialism.

[Trueblue]

There are levels that are unhealthy and make it socialist. When we all have to be equal that is socialism.

Yes, that is socialism.

And Obama's never said anything like that.

[jim]

Yes, that is socialism.

And Obama's never said anything like that.

He hasn't and won't:roll:brr

[BartonX]

Associating Obama with family values is like associating Hitler with the book, "How to win friends and influence people". :rofl

[BartonX]

In this day and age it seems if one is a Dem, they are labeled "socialist" by those on the right.

There is a reason for that. In Missouri, when we see a horse with a goofy assed expression on its face they are labeled a "Mule". :LL

[BartonX]

There is a reason for that. In Missouri, when we see a horse with a goofy assed expression on its face they are labeled a "Mule". :LL And that's the truth...........

[jim]

Associating Obama with family values is like associating Hitler with the book, "How to win friends and influence people". :rofl


I believe you had better attribute that one to the Neo-Cons BX...They care for nothing but lining their pockets...The Neo-Cons would sell their daughters like in some of the primitive Oriental countries if we didn't have laws against it...If they tried to obliterate those laws like they have Eminent Domain, it would not surprise me...:rooster:sumo:drevil:devil

[Cookie Parker]

Not exactly, I think ye shall know them by their pointy shoes, greased back hair, garlic breath and their ability to sing soprano. :)

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW Prior to this self-description, I HAD thought the avatar might be you....no wonder you hide your identity...

[Cookie Parker]

There are levels that are unhealthy and make it socialist. When we all have to be equal that is socialism.


Not exactly...when your taxes pay for corporations that would, under capitalism fail, THAT'S corporate socialism...

[Cookie Parker]

There is a reason for that. In Missouri, when we see a horse with a goofy assed expression on its face they are labeled a "Mule". :LL

I guess a jackass would know.....;)

[Cookie Parker]

Well linking de Obama to family values is like linking Heidi Fleish to virtue, except with greater distance and far less aplomb. :rofl :LL :lmao :snicker

What? Show me the "family value" in McCain's leaving his wife who was in an accident for a younger richer model. AND for leaving his comrades as POWs in Viet Nam..."Band of Brothers" and all.

Ah...wait...you're republican....you HAVE no family values..I get it!!!:Q

[BartonX]

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW Prior to this self-description, I HAD thought the avatar might be you....no wonder you hide your identity...

:rofl That is a new one. Where in the hell did you ever get the idea that I hide my identity? :lmao

[BartonX]

I guess a jackass would know.....;)

Well do you? C'mon fess up. :snicker

[BartonX]

What? Show me the "family value" in McCain's leaving his wife who was in an accident for a younger richer model. AND for leaving his comrades as POWs in Viet Nam..."Band of Brothers" and all.

Ah...wait...you're republican....you HAVE no family values..I get it!!!:Q

Why would I of all people take up for or defend the likes of McCain? You have me confused with someone else. I can't stand McCain. As far as I am concerned he is as big a traitor as Kerry or Clinton.

[Cookie Parker]

Well do you? C'mon fess up. :snicker

You said it..I didn't.

Maybe McCain has something with his like that's linked to republican party followers...

Could it be lyingitis?

[Cookie Parker]

Why would I of all people take up for or defend the likes of McCain? You have me confused with someone else. I can't stand McCain. As far as I am concerned he is as big a traitor as Kerry or Clinton.

Yeah, it shows with all of your anti-Obama jokes...ALL republicans are doing it this year....coming out as "independents"..it's the newest Limbaugh chaos.

[BartonX]

You said it..I didn't.

Maybe McCain has something with his like that's linked to republican party followers...

Could it be lyingitis?

Most everything I say deserves a reply it is inevitable. Both sides lie and this year they are going for broke.

[BartonX]

Yeah, it shows with all of your anti-Obama jokes...ALL republicans are doing it this year....coming out as "independents"..it's the newest Limbaugh chaos.

Limbaugh, is perhaps the most intelligent voice out there. What he says has proven to be 99% right on the mark. If liberals listened to him there would be no liberals.:)

[wvpeach]

Yeah right. If we listened to Rush we'd all be Oxycotin heads with a stash of 30,000 of those pills. Except unlike Rush if we were stupid enough to listen to him the average citizen would end up in jail for breaking the drug laws. The average citizen doesn't have the money to buy their way out of it the way Rush did.

And besides what is that old hypocrite now saying about MCCain? He said MCCain was going to destroy the Republican party. Now I suppose the old hypocrite is voting for MCCain?

LOL , proof his brian is damaged by all his drug abuse.

[Trueblue]

Yeah right. If we listened to Rush we'd all be Oxycotin heads with a stash of 30,000 of those pills. Except unlike Rush if we were stupid enough to listen to him the average citizen would end up in jail for breaking the drug laws. The average citizen doesn't have the money to buy their way out of it the way Rush did.

And besides what is that old hypocrite now saying about MCCain? He said MCCain was going to destroy the Republican party. Now I suppose the old hypocrite is voting for MCCain?

LOL , proof his brian is damaged by all his drug abuse.

:yep

[BartonX]

Yeah right. If we listened to Rush we'd all be Oxycotin heads with a stash of 30,000 of those pills. Except unlike Rush if we were stupid enough to listen to him the average citizen would end up in jail for breaking the drug laws. The average citizen doesn't have the money to buy their way out of it the way Rush did.

And besides what is that old hypocrite now saying about MCCain? He said MCCain was going to destroy the Republican party. Now I suppose the old hypocrite is voting for MCCain?

LOL , proof his brian is damaged by all his drug abuse.

Maybe so but with him you wouldn't have to order vagisil by the truck load. :rofl

[ReclusiveGrub]

Limbaugh, is perhaps the most intelligent voice out there. What he says has proven to be 99% right on the mark. If liberals listened to him there would be no liberals.:)


I don't think Limbaugh is that reliable of a source.

[BartonX]

When it comes to politics and strategies he is uncanny. I have seen him predict things the libs would do that I said "no way", and they did precisely what he predicted.