SF leftists, truely petty people

[John Gault]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/25/america/bush.php

[Trueblue]

:rofl

[John Gault]

:rofl

And you join their ranks.

I guess we should name a Cigar factory after Clinton, or maybe a Comedy club or a condom factory?

[Trueblue]

And you join their ranks.

I guess we should name a Cigar factory after Clinton, or maybe a Comedy club or a condom factory?

You just really cannot grasp how bad Bush has been, can you?

[Cookie Parker]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/25/america/bush.php

From the Department of Damned-With-Faint-Praise, a group going by the regal-sounding name of the Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco is planning to ask voters here to change the name of a prize-winning water-treatment plant on the shoreline to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant.

The plan - hatched, naturally, in a bar - would place a vote on the November ballot to provide "an appropriate honor for a truly unique president."

ROFLMAO!!!

Yeah, to a conservative with a failed president who turned everything he did into crap, this is petty. To the rest of the natural and normal world..this is goll durn funny stuff here...!!!:LL

[John Gault]

You just really cannot grasp how bad Bush has been, can you?

I can certainly grasp how bad he has been for leftists and slackers.

Tell me, any credit given for N. Korea giving up nuke facilities?

I seem to remember people complaining that he should talk directly with them and that these 6 way talks would not work and that and that and that.... blah blah blah..

[John Gault]

ROFLMAO!!!

Yeah, to a conservative with a failed president who turned everything he did into crap, this is petty. To the rest of the natural and normal world..this is goll durn funny stuff here...!!!:LL

I thought I had you on ignore, well I do now.

[Trueblue]

I can certainly grasp how bad he has been for leftists and slackers.

Tell me, any credit given for N. Korea giving up nuke facilities?

I seem to remember people complaining that he should talk directly with them and that these 6 way talks would not work and that and that and that.... blah blah blah..

Bad, bad example for your case you are trying to make. The Bush refusal to continue the negotiations begun under Clinton allowed the NKs to get as far as they did with nukes. I give credit to Bush for catching on several years too late that Clinton was right.

The people you heard complaining were Pubs. :lol

[April15]

Hey now! We are talking about a sewage treatment plant here. To put the Bush name on it would degrade the plant and those who work there. Now if you wanted to name the outfall pipe after him that might be OK as he just spews shit all the time just like the outfall pipe will!

[AYFR]

Doesn't a sewage plant CLEAN up other peoples messes? Yep sounds like Bush to me.

[Saguaro]

Ohhh Rev, please show me one, just one thing Bush has cleaned up

[Trueblue]

Then we should name the sewage after Bush.

[April15]

Then we should name the sewage after Bush.It already is, SHIT or crap!

[AYFR]

He lowered taxes which helped in the recession that he inherited.

[Trueblue]

He lowered taxes which helped in the recession that he inherited.

Oh, Bush helped the recession alright. Too bad he didn't help the people instead.

[Saguaro]

I thought of two.. he helped Haliburton ! He also helped to contribute to the surplus population of the world,especially Iraq

[Judge Smails]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a106/sofa666king/Bush-Memorial.jpg

Much more than he deserves, but appropriate.

[AYFR]

TB till about a year ago (after the 2006 elections) the Economy was vibrant and great. There was no recession, unemployment was WAY WAY down and the US was thriving.

[Yellowdogtexan]

He lowered taxes which helped in the recession that he inherited.The tax cut fairy has sprinkled some more of its dust. No one really believes that. In fact 75% of the American public know that bush is responsible the economic mess that our country is in right now.

[Cookie Parker]

I thought I had you on ignore, well I do now.


Most who can't keep up with my discussion points do...

[Cookie Parker]

The tax cut fairy has sprinkled some more of its dust. No one really believes that. In fact 75% of the American public know that bush is responsible the economic mess that our country is in right now.

Yup...and the numbers are growing with each failed economic policy Bush has created since 2000. Like the futures market for gas....what an upper 1% wealthy group decision THAT was.

[jim]

Yup...and the numbers are growing with each failed economic policy Bush has created since 2000. Like the futures market for gas....what an upper 1% wealthy group decision THAT was.

WE will have to find another modus vivendi because the survival of humankind as well as many animals is going to depend on it. If a few gilded-agers want to cry: socialism, they will just have to...:cry:yep

[Trueblue]

TB till about a year ago (after the 2006 elections) the Economy was vibrant and great. There was no recession, unemployment was WAY WAY down and the US was thriving.

Vibrant? No, economists have understood what was coming for some time.

[jim]

TB till about a year ago (after the 2006 elections) the Economy was vibrant and great. There was no recession, unemployment was WAY WAY down and the US was thriving.

No, it wasn't. It was stuck together - loosely - by toothpicks, threads and HOT AIR!!:monkey:roar:ringo

[Trueblue]

I know that naming this facility after him is inappropriate. I also know that the Pubs behaved shamelessly in 2000, and they shoved Bush down our throats, and then they added insult to injury with the terror alert in 04 and the swiftboat attacks and all the other cheap Rove tricks, instead of running on their own pathetic record. They have behaved like sewage. This is a group that may have achieved exactly what they want-they are in good shape and can retire to what is it-Dubai?-while the rest of us live with their misleadership.

The Clinton haters based their anger on such nonsense compared to the lies that got us into Iraq, the tax cuts for the richest, the eavesdropping on citizens, the spying on the Quaker peace group, the "free speech zones", the cheating in the debates, and on and on, for eight years. :mad

[April15]

TB till about a year ago (after the 2006 elections) the Economy was vibrant and great. There was no recession, unemployment was WAY WAY down and the US was thriving.Yes it was. It was growing on unethical, unprincipled methods of financial juggaleing.
Brought on by the lack of regulatory oversight need for ethical and responseble managment of finacial markets.

[matrixx8]

You seemed to have covered most of the salient points. Good post.

[nixon]

I know that naming this facility after him is inappropriate. I also know that the Pubs behaved shamelessly in 2000, and they shoved Bush down our throats, and then they added insult to injury with the terror alert in 04 and the swiftboat attacks and all the other cheap Rove tricks, instead of running on their own pathetic record. They have behaved like sewage. This is a group that may have achieved exactly what they want-they are in good shape and can retire to what is it-Dubai?-while the rest of us live with their misleadership.

The Clinton haters based their anger on such nonsense compared to the lies that got us into Iraq, the tax cuts for the richest, the eavesdropping on citizens, the spying on the Quaker peace group, the "free speech zones", the cheating in the debates, and on and on, for eight years. :madInappropiately named? If it comes to pass that George W. Bush happens to get a library name after him, I'm going there to piss on it's fucking steps. Yours Truley, Nixon.

[Judge Smails]

Hunter S. Thompson said this about Nixon, but it could easily be said about bush as well;

"He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. . . . His body should have been burned in a trash bin."

bush and certain members of his current and past administration are criminals. Once we purge our society of these traitors, it is my fervent prayer that they be brought to justice for their crimes.

I will not be content to have them just leave Washington.

I will not be content to simply have them go down in history as the worst President and administration this country has had to endure.

I want these swine hauled in front of a judge and jury. I want them tried for their crimes and I want them sentenced accordingly.

We must have some measure of justice, if not others will try to follow in their footsteps.

[matrixx8]

WE will have to find another modus vivendi because the survival of humankind as well as many animals is going to depend on it. If a few gilded-agers want to cry: socialism, they will just have to...:cry:yep

Absolutely, Jim. Biodiversity is one aspect of environmental destruction that doesn't get much publicity these days.

Those who cry "socialism" are simply sticking their heads in the sand. No "ism" is going to save humankind. Only humankind can do that.

Well...maybe.

[Judge Smails]

Monday, April 14, 2008

Obama would ask his AG to "immediately review" potential of crimes in Bush White House


Tonight I had an opportunity to ask Barack Obama a question that is on the minds of many Americans, yet rarely rises to the surface in the great ruckus of the 2008 presidential race -- and that is whether an Obama administration would seek to prosecute officials of a former Bush administration on the revelations that they greenlighted torture, or for other potential crimes that took place in the White House.

Obama said that as president he would indeed ask his new Attorney General and his deputies to "immediately review the information that's already there" and determine if an inquiry is warranted -- but he also tread carefully on the issue, in line with his reputation for seeking to bridge the partisan divide. He worried that such a probe could be spun as "a partisan witch hunt." However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because "nobody is above the law."

The question was inspired by a recent report by ABC News, confirmed by the Associated Press, that high-level officials including Vice President Dick Cheney and former Cabinet secretaries Colin Powell, John Ashcroft and Donald Rumsfeld, among others, met in the White House and discussed the use of waterboarding and other torture techniques on terrorism suspects.

I mentioned the report in my question, and said "I know you've talked about reconciliation and moving on, but there's also the issue of justice, and a lot of people -- certainly around the world and certainly within this country -- feel that crimes were possibly committed" regarding torture, rendition, and illegal wiretapping. I wanted to know how whether his Justice Department "would aggressively go after and investigate whether crimes have been committed."

Here's his answer, in its entirety:


What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can't prejudge that because we don't have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I've said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it.

The bottom line is that: Obama sent a clear signal that -- unlike impeachment, which he's ruled out and which now seems a practical impossibility -- he is at the least open to the possibility of investigating potential high crimes in the Bush White House. To many, the information that waterboarding -- which the United States has considered torture and a violation of law in the past -- was openly planned out in the seat of American government is evidence enough to at least start asking some tough questions in January 2009.
Huffington Report, April, 2008

[jim]

Absolutely, Jim. Biodiversity is one aspect of environmental destruction that doesn't get much publicity these days.

Those who cry "socialism" are simply sticking their heads in the sand. No "ism" is going to save humankind. Only humankind can do that.

Well...maybe.

Absolutely!!!:twitch

[jim]

Hunter S. Thompson said this about Nixon, but it could easily be said about bush as well;



bush and certain members of his current and past administration are criminals. Once we purge our society of these traitors, it is my fervent prayer that they be brought to justice for their crimes.

I will not be content to have them just leave Washington.

I will not be content to simply have them go down in history as the worst President and administration this country has had to endure.



I want these swine hauled in front of a judge and jury. I want them tried for their crimes and I want them sentenced accordingly.

We must have some measure of justice, if not others will try to follow in their footsteps.

Agreed!!:godzilla

[April15]

I will volunteer to pull the trap door.

[Yellowdogtexan]

This is funny. The plant is too useful to be named after bush http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/14/opponents-say-san-francisco-sewer-plant-too-useful-to-be-named-after-bush/The Presidential Memorial Commission of San Francisco has just recently submitted enough signatures to city election officials “hoping to place on the ballot an initiative that would rechristen the Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant as the George W. Bush Sewage Plant.” But on CBC radio last Friday, one of the commission’s founders, Brian McConnell, said the group ran in to some unexpected opposition to changing the name: McCONNELL: What we didn’t expect was that most of the opposition was coming from people who didn’t want to name anything. They just wanted to forget about the past eight years and move on or they felt that this is a facility that does something really quite useful and it would be inappropriate to put his name on it. […] If you get to the point where people are defending the sewage plant, that’s a sign that things have not gone so well. Earlier in the segment, McConnell noted the logic behind the name change idea: A wastewater treatment plant’s “job is to clean up a mess and so in that respect we think it symbolizes what the country is going to embark on as [Bush] leaves office.”If you are limited to things or facilities that are not useful, then it will be a long time before anything ever bears bush's name

[patriotsblade]

There are a couple of outdoor public toilets at 5th and Market in S.F. (for anyone who's been there you know what the area around 5th and Market looks like) perhaps these facilities would be better suited to bear the name of the squatter currently in the White House.

[AYFR]

Hell then I know of a couple of cabarets (*mens clubs, whore houses) that would really be suited for BJ Clinton's name.

[patriotsblade]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/JLimGarfield/Northern%20California/Bay%20Area/Coittoilet.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_N3iTshh6KG0/RuX9ObIEYzI/AAAAAAAAAWc/MCzQtI2U-FA/DSCF1323-cropped.JPG


Wouldn't they look great with "W's" name on them? :LL

[April15]

Toilet already is on them, ain't that enough?

[Yellowdogtexan]

This is a great concept. We need to name all sewage plants across the country after bush so that the name bush means sewage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHxn_8GWclk