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Indy
12-29-2006, 11:03 AM
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Ancient ice shelf snaps and breaks free from the Canadian Arctic
Dec 28 6:41 PM US/Eastern






Ancient ice shelf snaps and breaks free from the Canadian Arctic STEVE LILLEBUEN (CP) - A giant ice shelf the size of 11,000 football fields has snapped free from Canada's Arctic, leaving a trail of icy boulders floating in its wake.
The mass of ice broke clear from the coast of Ellesmere Island, about 800 kilometres south of the North Pole. Warwick Vincent of Laval University, who studies Arctic conditions, travelled to the newly formed ice island and couldn't believe what he saw. "It was extraordinary," Vincent said Thursday, adding that in 10 years of working in the region he has never seen such a dramatic loss of sea ice.

"This is a piece of Canadian geography that no longer exists."

The collapse was so powerful that earthquake monitors 250 kilometres away picked up tremors from it.

Scientists say it is the largest event of its kind in 30 years and point their fingers at climate change as a major contributing factor.

"We think this incident is consistent with global climate change," Vincent said, adding that the remaining ice shelves are 90 per cent smaller than when they were first discovered in 1906.

"We aren't able to connect all of the dots .�.�. but unusually warm temperatures definitely played a major role."

The ice shelf actually broke up 16 months ago, but no one witnessed the dramatic event.

Laurie Weir, who monitors ice conditions for the Canadian Ice Service, was poring over satellite images when she noticed that the shelf had split and separated.

Weir notified Luke Copland, head of the new global ice lab at the University of Ottawa, who initiated an effort to find out what happened.

Using U.S. and Canadian satellite images, as well as data from seismic monitors, Copland discovered that the ice shelf collapsed in the early afternoon of Aug. 13, 2005.

"These ice shelves can break up really quickly, perhaps more quickly than we thought they could do in the past," he said.

"Within an hour we could see this entire ice chunk just disconnect and float away."

Within days, the floating ice shelf had drifted a few kilometres offshore. It travelled west for 50 kilometres until it finally froze into the sea ice in the early winter...



http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_n122847A.xml.html

TrueBlue
12-29-2006, 11:06 AM
More dramatic evidence.

Love
12-29-2006, 11:21 AM
DH and I were watching that on CBC news last night. Freaky shit man!

Dano
12-29-2006, 03:49 PM
More dramatic evidence.

Global warming is not a disputed issue. Dramatic evidence of that is is not needed.

TrueBlue
12-29-2006, 07:59 PM
Global warming is not a disputed issue. Dramatic evidence of that is is not needed.

More dramatic evidence that we better get up and get busy changing our ways. :)

Indy
12-29-2006, 08:26 PM
If there's anything we can do to prevent these types of events from happening, we should do it.

Dano
12-29-2006, 08:56 PM
We could ban all kitchen appliances and air conditioning.

How about limiting each family to 5,000 miles/year in their 4-cylinder vehicle (singular - one per family).

Set aside one hour on Saturdays for the entire population to 'blow' toward the Sun to cool it off?

What suggestions do you have that you are willing to do?

TrueBlue
12-29-2006, 09:02 PM
We could ban all kitchen appliances and air conditioning.

How about limiting each family to 5,000 miles/year in their 4-cylinder vehicle (singular - one per family).

Set aside one hour on Saturdays for the entire population to 'blow' toward the Sun to cool it off?

What suggestions do you have that you are willing to do?

We need cars that get better gas mileage, for starters, and then we need to have [as another poster long ago said] a Manhattan Project to reduce greenhouse gases.

Here are some suggestions on reducing global warming at your home.

[Also, I think that reducing rhetoric like "blow towards the sun" might bring the temperature down.] :rofl

http://www.wikihow.com/Reduce-Your-Greenhouse-Gas-Emissions

Indy
12-29-2006, 09:04 PM
We could ban all kitchen appliances and air conditioning.

How about limiting each family to 5,000 miles/year in their 4-cylinder vehicle (singular - one per family).

Set aside one hour on Saturdays for the entire population to 'blow' toward the Sun to cool it off?

What suggestions do you have that you are willing to do?

I am willing to ride buses to and from work, to the store, pretty much anywhere. I am intentionally moving where I can walk more places. We could survive with only one car.

I am willing to pay more for certain products to be manufactured in earth friendly ways.

If there are things we can do to slow down global warming, the world should do it's part and that includes decreasing carbon immisions that destroy our ozone.

We will win the war on terrorism if we find alternatives to oil. It is not just for the environment.

April15
12-31-2006, 04:22 PM
What a bunch of ignoramuses! That shelf was old and decrepid. Like an old man with canes it was bound to fail. Just because it happened now instead of next year doesn't mean global warming is real! I mean look at the ice cubes in your cocktail, they melt. So does that mean the artic ice melting is unusual? Hell no! It just means the the water is getting warmer and the ice needs to melt to cool it! Jeeez you people are dumb!?

Ariel
12-31-2006, 08:23 PM
Wow.

TrueBlue
12-31-2006, 08:32 PM
What a bunch of ignoramuses! That shelf was old and decrepid. Like an old man with canes it was bound to fail. Just because it happened now instead of next year doesn't mean global warming is real! I mean look at the ice cubes in your cocktail, they melt. So does that mean the artic ice melting is unusual? Hell no! It just means the the water is getting warmer and the ice needs to melt to cool it! Jeeez you people are dumb!?

:rofl2

Wabash
12-31-2006, 08:38 PM
More dramatic evidence that we better get up and get busy changing our ways. :)

You still think man has much to do with it huh? Tsk, tsk....

Go piss on China TB and when you get them all straightened out, then go to India and then maybe come back to America! I'll see you in a decade or so, if you are still alive...they won't tolerate your kind over there!:wink

Wabash
12-31-2006, 08:40 PM
Gee, I wonder how many ice shelfs broke off before man walked upright and before the words Enviro Whacko were invented...?:lol

TrueBlue
12-31-2006, 08:44 PM
We use most of the world's resources, we have to be the leaders on this.

And of course man has much to do with it-man has tremendous destructive ability.

Wabash
12-31-2006, 08:45 PM
We use most of the world's resources, we have to be the leaders on this.

And of course man has much to do with it-man has tremendous destructive ability.

Nonsense!:cuckoo

TrueBlue
12-31-2006, 08:47 PM
Nonsense!:cuckoo

:cuckoo Looks who's talking! :rofl

April15
12-31-2006, 10:26 PM
We use most of the world's resources, we have to be the leaders on this.

And of course man has much to do with it-man has tremendous destructive ability.Destruction of natural resources is what man does better than any other life form on earth. Almost anywhere man has been or has travel at length nature has been destroyed and will not recover. The rain forests used to be the exception but even that is to the point of surrender to mans voracious appetite for destruction of the planet and its ecosystem.

Kurtz
12-31-2006, 10:30 PM
Destruction of natural resources is what man does better than any other life form on earth. Almost anywhere man has been or has travel at length nature has been destroyed and will not recover. The rain forests used to be the exception but even that is to the point of surrender to mans voracious appetite for destruction of the planet and its ecosystem.

Seen this? http://www.forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=2064

Wabash
12-31-2006, 10:46 PM
Destruction of natural resources is what man does better than any other life form on earth. Almost anywhere man has been or has travel at length nature has been destroyed and will not recover. The rain forests used to be the exception but even that is to the point of surrender to mans voracious appetite for destruction of the planet and its ecosystem.

I think that the planet is a lot tougher then man....

TrueBlue
12-31-2006, 10:47 PM
I think that the planet is a lot tougher then man....

The planet is both tough and fragile. The planet may do okay, but personally, I'd like to see people survive on it, too.

April15
12-31-2006, 10:54 PM
Seen this? http://www.forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=2064
I am well aware of what is happening and why. Man has altered river flows. Poisoned water along with fisheries. Unleashed many deadly gases. Poisoned our own children with paints that used elements we didn't understand.
Can we, mankind, say with certainty we are innocent? I think not.