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AYFR
06-04-2008, 05:17 PM
The decision facing Americans in this election couldn't be more important to the future security and prosperity of American families. This is, indeed, a change election. No matter who wins this election, the direction of this country is going to change dramatically. But, the choice is between the right change and the wrong change; between going forward and going backward.


America has seen tough times before. We've always known how to get through them. And we've always believed our best days are ahead of us. I believe that still. But we must rise to the occasion, as we always have; change what must be changed; and make the future better than the past.

The right change recognizes that many of the policies and institutions of our government have failed. They have failed to keep up with the challenges of our time because many of these policies were designed for the problems and opportunities of the mid to late 20th Century, before the end of the Cold War; before the revolution in information technology and rise of the global economy. The right kind of change will initiate widespread and innovative reforms in almost every area of government policy -- health care, energy, the environment, the tax code, our public schools, our transportation system, disaster relief, government spending and regulation, diplomacy, the military and intelligence services. Serious and far-reaching reforms are needed in so many areas of government to meet our own challenges in our own time.

The irony is that Americans have been experiencing a lot of change in their lives attributable to these historic events, and some of those changes have distressed many American families -- job loss, failing schools, prohibitively expensive health care, pensions at risk, entitlement programs approaching bankruptcy, rising gas and food prices, to name a few. But your government often acts as if it is completely unaware of the changes and hardships in your lives. And when government does take notice, often it only makes matters worse. For too long, we have let history outrun our government's ability to keep up with it. The right change will stop impeding Americans from doing what they have always done: overcome every obstacle to our progress, turn challenges into opportunities, and by our own industry, imagination and courage make a better country and a safer world th an we inherited.

To keep our nation prosperous, strong and growing we have to rethink, reform and reinvent: the way we educate our children; train our workers; deliver health care services; support retirees; fuel our transportation network; stimulate research and development; and harness new technologies.

To keep us safe we must rebuild the structure and mission of our military; the capabilities of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies; the reach and scope of our diplomacy; the capacity of all branches of government to defend us. We need to strengthen our alliances, and preserve our moral credibility.

We must also prepare, far better than we have, to respond quickly and effectively to a natural calamity. When Americans confront a catastrophe they have a right to expect basic competence from their government. Firemen and policemen should be able to communicate with each other in an emergency. We should be able to deliver bottled water to dehydrated babies and rescue the infirm from a hospital with no electricity. Our disgraceful failure to do so here in New Orleans exposed the incompetence of government at all levels to meet even its most basic responsibilities.

The wrong change looks not to the future but to the past for solutions that have failed us before and will surely fail us again. I have a few years on my opponent, so I am surprised that a young man has bought in to so many failed ideas. Like others before him, he seems to think government is the answer to every problem; that government should take our resources and make our decisions for us. That type of change doesn't trust Americans to know what is right or what is in their own best interests. It's the attitude of politicians who are sure of themselves but have little faith in the wisdom, decency and common sense of free people. That attitude created the unresponsive bureaucracies of big government in the first place. And that's not change we can believe in.[/B]

You will hear from my opponent's campaign in every speech, every interview, every press release that I'm running for President Bush's third term. You will hear every policy of the President described as the Bush-McCain policy. Why does Senator Obama believe it's so important to repeat that idea over and over again? Because he knows it's very difficult to get Americans to believe something they know is false. So he tries to drum it into your minds by constantly repeating it rather than debate honestly the very different directions he and I would take the country. But the American people didn't get to know me yesterday, as they are just getting to know Senator Obama. They know I have a long record of bipartisan problem solving. They've seen me put our country before any President -- before any party -- before any special interest -- before my own interest. They might think me an imperfect servant of our country, which I surely am. But I am her servant first, last and always.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/mccains_speech_in_new_orleans_1.html

Saguaro
06-04-2008, 05:19 PM
:roll He has proven time again that he agrees with Bush's policies.

issac the dragon
06-04-2008, 05:21 PM
I didn't listen to the speech, but the Republicans were certainly distressed by it. You could have scraped the poor babies up off the floor last night. Ruined my whole evening. :)

Yellowdogtexan
06-05-2008, 08:01 AM
This was a great speech for the Democrats and Obama. mc :cane did a horrible job on both style and substance http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/the-lime-green-monster-mc_n_105044.htmlThis is not to distract from McCain's address; that too was poorly reviewed. The most biting of the criticisms came from CNN's Jeffrey Toobin, who intoned, moments after its conclusion: "That was awful! That was pathetic!"

Josh Marshall, over at TPM, noted: "Here's how bad it is. All the Fox commentators are giving competing explanation for why McCain's speech sucked."

But if you think this was strictly a liberal prerogative, here is a sampling of the Republican response to McCain's general election launch.

Here's Mark Levin over at National Review's The Corner: "Not to offend those who might be offended, but this speech is a mash and tough to digest. You have to get through the self-congratulatory praise of independence and commander-in-chief pose from the Senate, then you have to try to follow the inconsistency of some of his big-government ideas vs. his anti-big-government rhetoric, and his inconsistency even on his supposed strength -- the surge in Iraq vs. closing GITMO and conferring additional rights on the detainees."

Summing up GOP sentiment was prominent Republican media consultant, Alex Castellanos, speaking on CNN: "Last I checked this was not a speech-making contest, thank God."

Trueblue
06-05-2008, 08:09 AM
It was really bad. Now the Pubs are trying to act like that's a good thing, the way they tried to portray Bush's verbal problems as a sign that he was genuine. :yuck As if.

Yellowdogtexan
06-05-2008, 08:36 AM
Here is a great set of clips on this horrible speech including a number from Faux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4

Trueblue
06-05-2008, 08:54 AM
It didn't sound like he believed what he was saying. I'm not saying he didn't believe it, just that when he said "that's not change we can believe in" he could hardly get the words out of his mouth.

wvpeach
06-05-2008, 08:58 AM
McCain is a third Bush presidency. There is no point him trying to gloss it over. Just like Putin in Russia we are about to have a third Bush presidency.

AYFR
06-05-2008, 05:04 PM
McCain is a third Bush presidency. There is no point him trying to gloss it over. Just like Putin in Russia we are about to have a third Bush presidency.

:bs http://forums.turbobricks.com/images/smilies/spinin.gif

Yellowdogtexan
06-06-2008, 12:28 PM
mc :cane's speech was so bad that it is going to be a subject of a Colbert Report contest to try to make mc :cane more interesting. See http://www.colbertnation.com/?p=1593As Stephen mentioned on last night’s show (see clip above), when Republican Presidential nominee John McCain addressed a crowd in Kenner, Louisiana on June 3, he did so in front of a green screen, thereby issuing a bold challenge to Americans to make him seem more interesting.Making mc :cane seem interesting will be a major challenge and this will be fun to see the results of this contest

Saguaro
06-06-2008, 12:31 PM
McCain is a third Bush presidency. There is no point him trying to gloss it over. Just like Putin in Russia we are about to have a third Bush presidency.

According to McCain, Putin is in germany

Yellowdogtexan
06-06-2008, 03:53 PM
This is amusing http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10880.html– As Democrats buzzed this week about their new de facto nominee, his historic candidacy and the unlikely political demise of Hillary Rodham Clinton, Republican circles were humming with another topic.

The topic: Is there a way John McCain can win the presidency without giving another speech?

That’s overstated, of course, but the concern about McCain’s wooden and stumbling address before a few hundred supporters here Tuesday night – the same evening as Barack Obama’s soaring acceptance address before thousands of screaming fans – has sent something of a shudder through the party and left GOP operatives shaking their heads in dismay. .....

“Not good,” a McCain adviser conceded about the dueling images, speaking on condition of anonymity like others interviewed because of the sensitivity involved in critiquing their nominee’s presentation. “It’s never going to be his strong suit, and it will always be Obama’s.”

Alex Castellanos, a longtime GOP ad-maker, was more succinct, mixing gallows humor with a brave face in talking on CNN Tuesday night: "This is not a speechmaking contest,” he said. “Thank God.”

McCain’s speech, his “Kermit the Frog” green backdrop, even his physical appearance were fodder for scores of worried e-mails and phone calls Tuesday and Wednesday between Republican donors, operatives and lobbyists.

One Republican strategist who has worked on past national campaigns said he received messages during the night from GOP loyalists in every administration from Ronald Reagan to George W. Bush.

“They were appalled at the environment the candidate was standing in and his performance,” said this strategist. “It’s a serious problem — the contrast is so clear that it’s demoralizing. And it deflated our balloon last night. When the guys on Fox are trash-talking, you know it’s bad.”

Trueblue
06-06-2008, 04:48 PM
I hope he tries earth tones next. :D

Yellowdogtexan
06-06-2008, 05:10 PM
:bs http://forums.turbobricks.com/images/smilies/spinin.gifWrong mc :cane is running for bush's third term http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=any3LY_zlqg

AYFR
06-06-2008, 05:41 PM
:bullshit

Yellowdogtexan
06-06-2008, 05:49 PM
This is amusing. Rahm Emanuel had noticed that the fact that mc :cane is running for a bush third term is amusing and gets under mc :cane's skin. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/06/rahm-emanuel-mccain-prote_n_105706.htmlHouse Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel teased Sen. John McCain on a Friday conference call with reporters, saying the notion that the presumptive GOP nominee represents "Bush's third term" has clearly become a burr under McCain's saddle due to its essential truth.

Pivoting off today's news of McCain's apparent flip-flop on President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program, Emanuel painted a portrait of near-constant agreement between McCain and the president on the Iraq war, the economy, heath care and government spending.

Referring to the Arizona Republican's widely panned Tuesday night address in New Orleans, Emanuel said: "When I was watching that speech, I was reminded of what Shakespeare said, 'Thou protest too much.' When he sits there and says, 'I am not George Bush and I wish you'd stop saying these falsehoods,' it's clearly hit a nerve because of the [truth of it]. ... And I think with core constituencies [of women, Hispanics, and working class voters] that are going to matter...when you look at the electoral map, he is not where George Bush was in 2004. He has a much higher negative rating with those constituencies and is well on his way on performing where Republicans performed in 2006."mc :cane is running for a third term for bush and mc :cane wants to continue the failed bush policies. This issue is correct and is not going to go away

AYFR
06-06-2008, 05:58 PM
You will hear from my opponent's campaign in every speech, every interview, every press release that I'm running for President Bush's third term. You will hear every policy of the President described as the Bush-McCain policy. Why does Senator Obama believe it's so important to repeat that idea over and over again? Because he knows it's very difficult to get Americans to believe something they know is false. So he tries to drum it into your minds by constantly repeating it rather than debate honestly the very different directions he and I would take the country. But the American people didn't get to know me yesterday, as they are just getting to know Senator Obama. They know I have a long record of bipartisan problem solving. They've seen me put our country before any President -- before any party -- before any special interest -- before my own interest. They might think me an imperfect servant of our country, which I surely am. But I am her servant first, last and always.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...orleans_1.html

But if the Dems wat to try and run against Bush (who is not running) then fine by me.

All that much easier for McCain to win.

Yellowdogtexan
06-06-2008, 06:10 PM
But if the Dems wat to try and run against Bush (who is not running) then fine by me.

All that much easier for McCain to win.Not really. The fact that bush and mc :cane are of the same party is enough to make if very difficult for him to win with or without the the third term issue. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/06/mccain_needs_vision_to_beat_hi.htmlDespite polls showing him doing surprisingly well against Obama, historical patterns show he’s in perilous territory.

Professor Alan Abramowitz of Emory University has developed an “electoral barometer” based on just three variables for predicting election outcomes, and it suggests that McCain is all but certainly set to lose this year.

In an article last week on University of Virginia professor Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball Web site, Abramowitz declared that “it appears very likely that the Republican party is dealing with the dreaded ‘triple whammy’ in 2008: an unpopular president, a weak economy and a second-term election.”

Abramowitz has tracked the effect of those variables on the last 15 presidential elections and found that they accurately predicted the popular vote outcome in 14 and came close in the 15th.

The formula adds the incumbent president’s net approval rating (approval minus disapproval), the second-quarter election-year GDP growth rate multiplied by five (emphasizing the importance of the economy) and then (factoring in time-for-a-change sentiment) subtracts 25 points if the in-party is finishing a second term.

Bush’s net approval now stands at minus 40. The first-quarter growth rate was 0.6 percent and Bush is finishing eight years, meaning that this year’s electoral barometer currently stands at minus 62.

If such a number holds, it “would predict a decisive defeat for the Republican presidential candidate,” Abramowitz wrote. “The only election since World War II with a score in this range was 1980,” when “Jimmy Carter suffered the worst defeat for an incumbent president since Herbert Hoover in 1932.”

The second worst occurred in 1952, when Democrat Adlai Stevenson tried to succeed Harry S. Truman with a minus 50 score and lost the popular vote by 11 points to Dwight D. Eisenhower.The record and popularity of the out-gpoing president plays a key role in these elections. Here, we have mc :cane is voted 95% of the time for bush and is running to continued bush's failed policies. bush has been a failure as to both the economy and the war in Iraq and the American public have strong opinons on both sets of policies. mc :cane has to convince the american voters that their opinons on bush's failed policies are wrong and that is a difficult job.

patriotsblade
06-06-2008, 09:56 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...orleans_1.html

But if the Dems wat to try and run against Bush (who is not running) then fine by me.

All that much easier for McCain to win.

So McCain is denying that he's a third term for Bush but so far we have seen clip after clip of him parroting and agreeing with Bush policies. Why haven't the McCain people put out video demonstrating how McCain would be different from Bush? Are they really going to let this supposedly false accusation just run rampant? All you posted there Rev. was a "no I'm not, but I can't prove it" denial followed by him whipping out his patriot card and sticking it on his forehead. It won't work.

Yellowdogtexan
06-07-2008, 08:47 AM
So McCain is denying that he's a third term for Bush but so far we have seen clip after clip of him parroting and agreeing with Bush policies. Why haven't the McCain people put out video demonstrating how McCain would be different from Bush? Are they really going to let this supposedly false accusation just run rampant? All you posted there Rev. was a "no I'm not, but I can't prove it" denial followed by him whipping out his patriot card and sticking it on his forehead. It won't work.You got to be kidding. Do not hold your breath waiting for proof or the :rev to back any of mc :cane's position

Yellowdogtexan
06-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Bill Kristol and some other conservatives did not like mc :cane 's speech http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/opinion/09kristol.html?partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=allMcCain chose to speak early in the evening, before the polls closed in South Dakota and Montana, thereby getting the jump on Obama. He read a disjointed set of remarks at a badly staged rally at the Pontchartrain Center in Kenner, La. Here’s part of an e-mail message I received as McCain spoke, from a Republican who admires him: “They could have done so well tonight, shown a tone of confidence. Instead it looks like a bad Congressional race: dumb green puke background, small crowd ... Makes me want to cry.”

Soon after Republicans finished shedding tears of frustration, Democrats were weeping tears of joy. Obama spoke about an hour later in a packed sports arena in St. Paul, Minn. His speech was well written and well delivered. He closed with quite a peroration, promising among other things that “generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs for the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

Yellowdogtexan
06-09-2008, 12:28 PM
So McCain is denying that he's a third term for Bush but so far we have seen clip after clip of him parroting and agreeing with Bush policies. Why haven't the McCain people put out video demonstrating how McCain would be different from Bush? Are they really going to let this supposedly false accusation just run rampant? All you posted there Rev. was a "no I'm not, but I can't prove it" denial followed by him whipping out his patriot card and sticking it on his forehead. It won't work.Senator Graham certainly agrees that mc :cane is running for a third term for bush and to continue and enhance bush's policies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKm87MV_u_4&eurl=http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x144814 A vote for mc :cane is a vote for four more years of failed bush policies.