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patriotsblade
06-04-2008, 12:05 PM
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2463456.ece

Norway reportedly has been conducting top-secret diplomacy to resolve the lengthy and bitter conflict between Chinese authorities and the exiled Tibetan government and its spiritual leader, The Dalai Lama. Two state secretaries in the Foreign Ministry are said to be heavily involved.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the Peace Prize to Tibet's spiritual leader, The Dalai Lama, and Norway's government now reportedly aims to broker peace between Tibet and China.

Newspaper VG reported on Wednesday that the efforts to bring officials from China and the exiled government of Tibet together have gone on for years.

VG cited sources in Washington who also said that various regimes within the US State Department have been kept aware of the peace efforts.

Only a handful of people have been made aware of the diplomatic activity, said to be a combination of brokering and paving the way for contact between the two sides.

Chinese authorities have reportedly demanded the secrecy, because they otherwise have publicly taken a hard line against Tibet and repeatedly claimed that it's always been a part of China. The government in Beijing therefore has taken the stand that there's nothing to negotiate.

State secretaries Raymond Johansen and Vidar Helgesen of the Norwegian Foreign Ministry have nonetheless steered efforts towards some sort of reconciliation between Chinese and Tibetan authorities, reports VG. Meetings have gone on both in Norway and abroad, where Norwegian diplomats have had talks with Chinese officials and representatives of the exiled Tibetan government in India.

In one case, Johansen traveled to Geneva on business and then took a side trip to "a neighbouring country" where he is said to have met with the brother of The Dalai Lama at a castle. The Norwegian and Chinese foreign ministers also have had confidential talks, wrote VG.

In another case, a special position allegedly was created for a visiting Chinese scholar at the University of Oslo. The university wasn't aware, however, that the position was actually a cover for the scholar's real mission in Norway, which was to advise Norwegian diplomats based on his contacts in Beijing and his knowledge of Tibet and its culture.

American sources have allegedly praised Norway's "wisdom" and "creativity" in moving the secret diplomacy forward. Johansen declined any comment.

Trueblue
06-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Those Norwegians, they're pretty great.*



*Ask the woman who "owns" one. :D

A recent study found that people in colder climates were more likely to be cooperative with each other, and thus more peaceful. The hypothesis is that they became more cooperative because they had to in order to survive.

jim
06-04-2008, 02:54 PM
Those Norwegians, they're pretty great.*



*Ask the woman who "owns" one. :D

A recent study found that people in colder climates were more likely to be cooperative with each other, and thus more peaceful. The hypothesis is that they became more cooperative because they had to in order to survive.

Yep: But wish they would stop hunting whales...Same applies to the Eskimoes...:ringo:brr

Saguaro
06-04-2008, 03:03 PM
:paclap For Norway

patriotsblade
06-04-2008, 03:05 PM
Yep: But wish they would stop hunting whales...Same applies to the Eskimoes...:ringo:brr

I agree Jim. It is considered by most people here to be a national embarassment. There is a native population in northern Norway, the Samisk. No whaling ban has ever been successfully pushed through because a good argument has been made about the negative economic impact on those people. Their whole living is made from herding reindeer, fishing, and whaling. I really hope it's something that can be changed eventually.

issac the dragon
06-04-2008, 07:23 PM
I'm proud of Norway for their diplomatic efforts. And I have a grudging respect for people who live off the land. They generally are not responsible for the state that wildlife is in, but we expect them to give up the way of life they feel defines them, because of what we have done. I feel that very strongly.

Trueblue
06-04-2008, 07:30 PM
I am not in favor of whaling, but at least traditional methods give the whales a better chance, so the species can survive.

jim
06-04-2008, 07:47 PM
I agree Jim. It is considered by most people here to be a national embarassment. There is a native population in northern Norway, the Samisk. No whaling ban has ever been successfully pushed through because a good argument has been made about the negative economic impact on those people. Their whole living is made from herding reindeer, fishing, and whaling. I really hope it's something that can be changed eventually.

Yep: That is about the way they felt about the Eskimoes but I guess about all of them do "white men's" work now...They too were nice folks...:yep