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Yellowdogtexan
05-12-2008, 07:24 PM
Well there goes yet another talking point http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/4886In a sharp reversal of its longstanding accusations against Iran arming militants in Iraq , the US military has made an unprecedented albeit quiet confession: the weapons they had recently found in Iraq were not made in Iran at all.

According to a report by the LA Times correspondent Tina Susman in Baghdad: “A plan to show some alleged Iranian-supplied explosives to journalists last week in Karbala and then destroy them was canceled after the United States realized none of them was from Iran. A U.S. military spokesman attributed the confusion to a misunderstanding that emerged after an Iraqi Army general in Karbala erroneously reported the items were of Iranian origin. When U.S. explosives experts went to investigate, they discovered they were not Iranian after all.”

The US , which until two weeks ago had never provided any proof for its allegations, finally handed over its “evidence” of the Iranian origin of these weapons to the Iraqi government. Last week, an Iraqi delegation to Iran presented the US “evidence” to Iranian officials. According to Al-Abadi, a parliament member from the ruling United Iraqi Alliance who was on the delegation, the Iranian officials totally refuted “training, financing and arming” militant groups in Iraq . Consequently the Iraqi government announced that there is no hard evidence against Iran.

In another extraordinary event this week, the US spokesman in Iraq, Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner, for the first time did not blame Iran for the violence in Iraq and in fact did not make any reference to Iran at all in his introductory remarks to the world media on Wednesday when he described the large arsenal of weapons found by Iraqi forces in Karbala.

Saguaro
05-12-2008, 07:49 PM
Bush is so itching to go to war with Iran. I wonder if this info will stop him ? Somehow I doubt that

AYFR
05-12-2008, 08:47 PM
In a sharp reversal of its longstanding accusations against Iran arming militants in Iraq , the US military has made an unprecedented albeit quiet confession: the weapons they had recently found in Iraq were not made in Iran at all.
Key word there.

They are not saying that Iran has not given or sold weapons to terrorists/insurgents in Iraq
U.S. Presents Evidence of Iranian Weapons in Iraq

They said that at least one shipment of E.F.P.’s was captured as it was being smuggled across the border from Iran into southern Iraq in 2005. The precise machining, the officials said, is another feature that links the weapons to Iran. “We have no evidence that this has ever been done in Iraq,” a senior United States military official said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/11/world/middleeast/11cnd-weapons.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin


General says U.S. has proof Iran arming Iraqi militias
"We have weapons that we know through serial numbers … that trace back to Iran," Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno said in an interview with USA TODAY.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-01-30-iraq-iran_x.htm

Saguaro
05-12-2008, 08:52 PM
Rev, you don't seem to accept the fact that we have been lied to over and over by the Bush admin

AYFR
05-12-2008, 08:57 PM
What I see is the need to believe anything that says opposes the war, no matter what it is.

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2004/07/time-to-set-record-straight-bush-did.html

http://mottsblog.blogspot.com/2005/11/bush-did-not-lie-but-war-critics-are.html

Trueblue
05-12-2008, 08:59 PM
What I see is the need to believe anything that says opposes the war, no matter what it is.

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2004/07/time-to-set-record-straight-bush-did.html

http://mottsblog.blogspot.com/2005/11/bush-did-not-lie-but-war-critics-are.html

Yeah, like believing facts.

AYFR
05-12-2008, 09:01 PM
:roll

AYFR
05-12-2008, 09:02 PM
You only call them facts when you agree with them

Trueblue
05-12-2008, 09:07 PM
You only call them facts when you agree with them

Rev, are you saying that the government is lying to us? That these weapons ARE from Iran?

Saguaro
05-12-2008, 09:13 PM
You only call them facts when you agree with them

:lmao Do you know what you are saying ?

AYFR
05-12-2008, 09:18 PM
Rev, are you saying that the government is lying to us? That these weapons ARE from Iran?

I am saying that Iran does/did have weapons from Iran not that there are some but they do exist and have been proven. I happens so much no wonder they made a mistake this time.

Saguaro
05-12-2008, 09:19 PM
Rev, your problem is that you believe everything the govt puts out.

AYFR
05-12-2008, 09:43 PM
Not so

I don't believe GW is man made
I don't believe that No Child Left Behind is good
I didn't want war with Iraq
I could list severl others as well.

Yellowdogtexan
05-12-2008, 09:52 PM
Rev, you don't seem to accept the fact that we have been lied to over and over by the Bush adminDenial is not just a river in Egypt

Ringo
05-13-2008, 06:42 AM
Rev, are you saying that the government is lying to us? That these weapons ARE from Iran?

Well TB think of it like this! Go look in the mirror adn ask yourself, would YOU trust YOU, with ANY Military info, andymore than you would trust a Traitor liike Doggie??

NO! A thousand times time NO, as its been PROVEN you cannot trust a Liberal on Defense Committees or anything involving Military Secrets, as Liberals are part of the ENEMIES of America these days!

Imagine the horrific loss of life that might have happened on D-Day, if the likes of you and Doggie had prior knowledge!! Of course you might have shut up, as it was the First Entitlement King FDR's War!!

Just because weapons aren't labled, doesn't mean they didn't come from somewhere adversive!! If they didn't come from Iran, that leaves Syria & China or possibly N.Korea, or any of YOUR foreign Brothers!!!:tb:mw:pb

Yellowdogtexan
05-13-2008, 06:47 AM
Countdown has a good clip on this in the segment about the bush administration on-going scandals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM-3pyeG6UI The bushies lied about Iraq and are still trying to lie about Iran.

toxic
05-13-2008, 12:02 PM
Amazing.

It appears there is now a dumbed-down generation that no longer even expects this Administration to tell them the truth.

Trueblue
05-13-2008, 04:18 PM
Amazing.

It appears there is now a dumbed-down generation that no longer even expects this Administration to tell them the truth.

There is a price to pay for that level of cynicism by young people. :(

Saguaro
05-13-2008, 05:12 PM
Not dumb downed,very much aware

Ringo
05-14-2008, 06:50 AM
Rev, your problem is that you believe everything the govt puts out.

Yea UNLIKE Global Warming, Bush is bad, Cheney is Bad, GOP'rs are bad, Christians are bad, Odummy is good...right Sag????:pb:nerd:tb:mw

Yellowdogtexan
05-14-2008, 11:53 AM
Yea UNLIKE Global Warming, Bush is bad, Cheney is Bad, GOP'rs are bad, Christians are bad, Odummy is good...right Sag????How is the weather in the state of Denial?

Ringo
05-16-2008, 06:21 AM
Countdown has a good clip on this in the segment about the bush administration on-going scandals http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM-3pyeG6UI The bushies lied about Iraq and are still trying to lie about Iran.

Looks like almost a perfect fit around his short phallic buddies in DC, like Reid, Durbin, Shumer or some other Liberal pussy, Doggie tries to call a man!!

BATHTUB BOY OLBERMAN....FAILED SPORTSCASTER AND WHINER OF THE YEAR...EXCELLENT LIBERAL ROLE MODEL!!:nerd:pb:theman:sheep:deadshot

Ringo
05-16-2008, 06:33 AM
How is the weather in the state of Denial?

HAD A BLIZZARD HERE ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO, ITS BEEN COOL, JUST LIKE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF "COOL" WEATHER, AS WE ARE HEADING INTO A GLOBAL COOLING PERIOD!!!

Your IDIOT Liberals as well as John McCain are proposing the BUYING AND SELLING of Carbon Credits for this PHONY FUCKING SCHEME to ruin the Capitalist Nations of the World mainly America!! Pricks like YOU want the Nation to be Socialist, as priveleged FEW will live HIGH on THE HOG, namely Gore and community of suck boys & girls!!

My Nation fought assholes like you in 76 and my Heritage fought for years trying to keep OUR Nation, so we will fight again, mark my word!! Now you can get back to Barney & Pee Wee Herman go to the Arcade(the $.25 Arcade)!!

I always know if I am getting near a Liberal theatre, as You can hear the papers rattle to the beat of the Chicken Chokin Boogie!!

BartonX
05-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Neither Bush nor his administration has lied to us so much as one time.

nixon
05-21-2008, 05:44 AM
Neither Bush nor his administration has lied to us so much as one time.Does the majority of registered voters share that opinion with you? I think his lies have cost the GOP the next election. But who knows, your a religious man, maybe Jesus will show up and hand them Congress and the White House. If he does make an appearance, you'll have a chance to ask him first hand who would he bomb.

issac the dragon
05-21-2008, 05:02 PM
The first time you've been right in a long time, Ringo.