View Full Version : Tell me Liberals, just how bad is the United States?
Ringo
05-10-2008, 05:16 AM
All I hear is about the Satanic, War Mongering US, even though America was attacked by Terrorists, and their promise is to kill us all!!
Once again when the World is in trouble from Myanmar, to picking up the bulk of World Food Problems, Mr Bush and America are right there carrying the load for the INGRATES of the Planet!! I have seen this for a long time, ever since I was a kid, and the History of the Nation, points out that is how we are!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354677,00.html
April15
05-10-2008, 12:35 PM
The US is not the same country you grew up in. That nation had conscience and ethics. The nation of today is about showmanship and greed, despite the national show of generosity our own people will suffer as a result.
Lone Laugher
05-10-2008, 04:07 PM
Ringo...the premise that you start with is wrong. "Liberals" are not SIMPLY eager to discover and publicize what is wrong with our society....but are keen to IMPROVE things.
Perhaps a weak anlogy...but AA makes a person first admit to having a problem...only then can the work to fix it begin.
Another weak analogy.....my baseball team wins a tournament.....but commits 6 easily avoidable baserunning errors. If I ignore the baserunning errors and simply praise the boys for winning...I am leading them on a path toward eventual losses. There must be CONSTANT introspection if progress is to be made and/or maintained.
April15
05-10-2008, 04:17 PM
Ringo...the premise that you start with is wrong. "Liberals" are not SIMPLY eager to discover and publicize what is wrong with our society....but are keen to IMPROVE things.
Perhaps a weak anlogy...but AA makes a person first admit to having a problem...only then can the work to fix it begin.
Another weak analogy.....my baseball team wins a tournament.....but commits 6 easily avoidable baserunning errors. If I ignore the baserunning errors and simply praise the boys for winning...I am leading them on a path toward eventual losses. There must be CONSTANT introspection if progress is to be made and/or maintained.
I think you are still over his head.
issac the dragon
05-10-2008, 04:48 PM
A loving parent chastises a child when he does wrong. If the parent does not, the child will never learn the difference between right and wrong. But the parent loves the child, right or wrong. And constantly tries to steer him to the right.
Maybe he will understand that. We love our country, and maybe we love it even more than the people who defend what is wrong.
April15
05-10-2008, 05:50 PM
A loving parent chastises a child when he does wrong. If the parent does not, the child will never learn the difference between right and wrong. But the parent loves the child, right or wrong. And constantly tries to steer him to the right.
Maybe he will understand that. We love our country, and maybe we love it even more than the people who defend what is wrong.Yer correct!
Trueblue
05-10-2008, 09:28 PM
A loving parent chastises a child when he does wrong. If the parent does not, the child will never learn the difference between right and wrong. But the parent loves the child, right or wrong. And constantly tries to steer him to the right.
Maybe he will understand that. We love our country, and maybe we love it even more than the people who defend what is wrong.
That sums it up.
waterdog
05-11-2008, 12:47 AM
Ringo...the premise that you start with is wrong. "Liberals" are not SIMPLY eager to discover and publicize what is wrong with our society....but are keen to IMPROVE things.
Perhaps a weak anlogy...but AA makes a person first admit to having a problem...only then can the work to fix it begin.
Another weak analogy.....my baseball team wins a tournament.....but commits 6 easily avoidable baserunning errors. If I ignore the baserunning errors and simply praise the boys for winning...I am leading them on a path toward eventual losses. There must be CONSTANT introspection if progress is to be made and/or maintained.
I think the analogy is right on (both of them) - excelent! :clap
Admitting there is a problem is always the first step in correcting the problem.
I think you are still over his head.
Maybe, but probably only because he won't want to admit it. You know man, it would just mess up his whole "HATE the COMMIE TRAITOR LIBERAL BASTARDS!!!!!!!" thingy.
A loving parent chastises a child when he does wrong. If the parent does not, the child will never learn the difference between right and wrong. But the parent loves the child, right or wrong. And constantly tries to steer him to the right.
Maybe he will understand that. We love our country, and maybe we love it even more than the people who defend what is wrong.
Absolutely right on Issac!
Trueblue
05-11-2008, 06:24 AM
LL I think that the baseball team analogy is excellent, too. :clap
we have had problems...but my main worry is still - where it will go from here if the Republicans prevail:godzilla
Wabash
05-11-2008, 12:01 PM
The US is not the same country you grew up in. That nation had conscience and ethics. The nation of today is about showmanship and greed, despite the national show of generosity our own people will suffer as a result.
You just described Bill Clinton to a T!
Ringo...the premise that you start with is wrong. "Liberals" are not SIMPLY eager to discover and publicize what is wrong with our society....but are keen to IMPROVE things.And yet....what have they improved....Libs have given us welfare, social security which is our money and they are now spending, they gave us the people of New Orleans, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, queers in SF and all over the place, Mario Salvio and Berzerkley, Teddy "the Murderer" Kennedy, Jimmy "The Dufus" Carter...the list is endless!
Perhaps a weak anlogy...but AA makes a person first admit to having a problem...only then can the work to fix it begin.AA works with a dependency.....the goal of the American people is to be independent...only liberals want us to be dependent on govt.!
Another weak analogy.....my baseball team wins a tournament.....but commits 6 easily avoidable baserunning errors. If I ignore the baserunning errors and simply praise the boys for winning...I am leading them on a path toward eventual losses. There must be CONSTANT introspection if progress is to be made and/or maintained.Gee...Jimmy screwed that up in trying to rescue the hostages, when one guy in the Clinton Adm. tried to do that, they found him dead in Ft. Marcy Park. Progress will be made when both sides are willing!
I think you are still over his head.
More like under his butt!
A loving parent chastises a child when he does wrong. If the parent does not, the child will never learn the difference between right and wrong. But the parent loves the child, right or wrong. And constantly tries to steer him to the right.Always! Never to the Left!
Maybe he will understand that. We love our country, and maybe we love it even more than the people who defend what is wrong.
Love will keep us together!
I think the analogy is right on (both of them) - excelent! :clap
Admitting there is a problem is always the first step in correcting the problem.
Slick Willy would never admit to a problem, no matter how many women he victimizes!
Maybe, but probably only because he won't want to admit it. You know man, it would just mess up his whole "HATE the COMMIE TRAITOR LIBERAL BASTARDS!!!!!!!" thingy.
But Ringo is SOOOOOOO RIGHT!!!!
Absolutely right on Issac!
LL I think that the baseball team analogy is excellent, too. :clapThat's because you see it from rose colored glasses!
we have had problems...but my main worry is still - where it will go from here if the Republicans prevail:godzilla
We will probably continue to fight the Axis of Evil. If Obie wins, it's bend over time!
toxic
05-11-2008, 12:15 PM
...Once again when the World is in trouble from Myanmar, to picking up the bulk of World Food Problems, Mr Bush and America are right there carrying the load for the INGRATES of the Planet!! ...
There have been several great posts about your misconception of liberals, so I won't even touch on that.
But here is my critical review of how the Bush's are screwing the pooch on the Myanmar Relief:
- Laura Bush took the lead on a foreign relations issue, where she has no justisdiction.
- Aid took the backseat to political grandstanding.
- She bitched about the internal government performance.
- She put conditions on US Gov aid receipt that she has no control over authorization of.
- She blamed to government for the disaster (like that will make them more willing to expedite US aid).
- She denounced the Myanmar Gov plan on Constitutional Referendum, and said her husband would honor a Myanmar Gov prisoner.
- ...
To summarize, Laura Bush, who is not an elected or appointed official, turned a emergency relief effort into a political circus and claimed she was controlling government policy. - Bitch Slap Required -
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iWphuVAXdBMQA0oBQJ6dlH8vnBPw
Wabash
05-11-2008, 12:24 PM
I don't see why we should have to give aid to a country that is anti American to begin with...let that hemisphere deal with it's own! Bitch Slap that!
toxic
05-11-2008, 12:53 PM
I don't see why we should have to give aid to a country that is anti American to begin with...let that hemisphere deal with it's own! Bitch Slap that!
That is a completely different question than never-elected-Laura claiming to be in control of our government aid.
Maybe it's Laura who had her hand up George W.imp's butt making his lips move all this time. And we all thought it was Cheney.
We will probably continue to fight the Axis of Evil. If Obie wins, it's bend over time![/QUOTE]
The Republican version of the US is evil...I don't know where you get that last part - but waging war forever is not "American" It is more like a pseudo-macho game that we can't keep up into eternity. Let us fight from necessity - not for "macho" adventure:ringo :sumo
issac the dragon
05-11-2008, 03:25 PM
Laura has always struck me as the kind of a woman who kept her husband completely cowed at home. Then when he is away from the "little woman" he acts like a bully to prove he is a man. George and Laura's marriage. Aren't we glad we get the bully.
April15
05-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Wabash,
Originally Posted by April15 View Post
The US is not the same country you grew up in. That nation had conscience and ethics. The nation of today is about showmanship and greed, despite the national show of generosity our own people will suffer as a result.
You just described Bill Clinton to a T!
Also RR and both bushs.
Wabash,
Originally Posted by April15 View Post
The US is not the same country you grew up in. That nation had conscience and ethics. The nation of today is about showmanship and greed, despite the national show of generosity our own people will suffer as a result.
You just described Bill Clinton to a T!
Also RR and both bushs.
Yep: There for about the same reasons:ringo
Ringo
05-12-2008, 12:59 PM
I think you are still over his head.
Over my head, I sincerely doubt that April but the BIGGEST word you used in this Post is 5 letters, so watching Barney and Thomas Train is helping your education immensely(meaning lots & lots!)!
You see the USA as a ME ME ME FIRST Nation, whereas I see the US as a Nation that needs to assist people when needed, adn we have been doing this for well over 150 years!!!
I need to see if Tart can start a Daycare center for whiners!
My philosophy is "GET OF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING" without worrying about what the Joneses have or what you don't!! I have a small business and a DECENT place to live and NO one assisted me in anyway, shape or form! It was hard work, saving, long hours, and with a new edition getting close for a mare, it takes long hours of observation, meaning more work!!
Yes we are a Nation of givers and I was raised up in the Mid 70's-80's, so why is the World different, except for a few more Welfare Leech's and Illegals??
Ringo
05-12-2008, 01:02 PM
we have had problems...but my main worry is still - where it will go from here if the Republicans prevail:godzilla
And I sweat your Marxist-Muslim lovers direction for America, as I have seen enough of your fucking Congress, talk about IDIOTS!!:mw:mw:mw
Ringo
05-12-2008, 01:09 PM
There have been several great posts about your misconception of liberals, so I won't even touch on that.
But here is my critical review of how the Bush's are screwing the pooch on the Myanmar Relief:
- Laura Bush took the lead on a foreign relations issue, where she has no justisdiction.
- Aid took the backseat to political grandstanding.
- She bitched about the internal government performance.
- She put conditions on US Gov aid receipt that she has no control over authorization of.
- She blamed to government for the disaster (like that will make them more willing to expedite US aid).
- She denounced the Myanmar Gov plan on Constitutional Referendum, and said her husband would honor a Myanmar Gov prisoner.
- ...
To summarize, Laura Bush, who is not an elected or appointed official, turned a emergency relief effort into a political circus and claimed she was controlling government policy. - Bitch Slap Required -
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iWphuVAXdBMQA0oBQJ6dlH8vnBPw
Didn't hear much WHINING when Hillary was playing Cabinet Member during Commie Bills joke Anarchy!!
I think you might be giving Laura a little more credit thsn she deserves, as I doubt she wields that big of stick!! By the Way it WAS the Military's fault the supplies didn't get delivered, as they confiscated them!!
Ringo
05-12-2008, 01:17 PM
LL I think that the baseball team analogy is excellent, too. :clap
How so TB? What are the costliest errors baseball teams make on the bases? Actually you should be against LL analogy as its more FAIR to pat them on the back, so that way they will not feel bad and not have the perception they need to get better! That is the Liberal NEA teaching method of Outcome based, taht has turned the Nation into pussies and stupid, the way Karl Marx likes the masses!!!
Do tell me about the Baseball though??
Ringo
05-13-2008, 07:09 AM
How so TB? What are the costliest errors baseball teams make on the bases? Actually you should be against LL analogy as its more FAIR to pat them on the back, so that way they will not feel bad and not have the perception they need to get better! That is the Liberal NEA teaching method of Outcome based, taht has turned the Nation into pussies and stupid, the way Karl Marx likes the masses!!!
Do tell me about the Baseball though??
"chirp" "chirp" "chirp"......zzzzzzzzzz
Dammit I must remember don't pin her down, she runs like hell, a scared little sheep, waiting on someone to bail her out!!:mw:mw:mw:mw
SavageJug
05-14-2008, 02:00 PM
Ringo...the premise that you start with is wrong. "Liberals" are not SIMPLY eager to discover and publicize what is wrong with our society....but are keen to IMPROVE things.
Perhaps a weak anlogy...but AA makes a person first admit to having a problem...only then can the work to fix it begin.
Another weak analogy.....my baseball team wins a tournament.....but commits 6 easily avoidable baserunning errors. If I ignore the baserunning errors and simply praise the boys for winning...I am leading them on a path toward eventual losses. There must be CONSTANT introspection if progress is to be made and/or maintained.
America does have a problem. Liberal Democrats.
We need to admit liberals are the problem, and take immediate action to eradicate said problem.
:theman
Lone Laugher
05-14-2008, 03:08 PM
Oh...we have a new toy to play with. I hope it is one of those toys that gets more interesting the more you play with it....because upon first look...it ain't that impressive.
Trueblue
05-14-2008, 05:47 PM
Oh...we have a new toy to play with. I hope it is one of those toys that gets more interesting the more you play with it....because upon first look...it ain't that impressive.
:snicker
nixon
05-14-2008, 06:04 PM
America does have a problem. Liberal Democrats.
We need to admit liberals are the problem, and take immediate action to eradicate said problem.
:themanAre you out of your fuckin' mind? Nixon.
Trueblue
05-14-2008, 06:06 PM
http://www.thriftyfun.com/images/articles11/sockpuppet300x386.jpg
April15
05-14-2008, 06:22 PM
America does have a problem. Liberal Democrats.
We need to admit liberals are the problem, and take immediate action to eradicate said problem.
:themanThe true problem is the ethically challenged Repuklicants. You know the raygun worshippers. He set the markets free so we can rape the average American.
SavageJug
05-14-2008, 07:00 PM
Oh...we have a new toy to play with. I hope it is one of those toys that gets more interesting the more you play with it....because upon first look...it ain't that impressive.
:godzilla
Seeing as you are a liberal, and a fan of the New York Mets. You might not want to about "impressive".
SavageJug
05-14-2008, 07:02 PM
Are you out of your fuckin' mind? Nixon.
No, that would make me a liberal.
destro67
05-15-2008, 02:52 PM
You idiot Jug.
Anyone who has an ounce of brains is a liberal.
Where has the last 8 years of neo conservatism got us?
You thick headed tool
Saguaro
05-15-2008, 02:57 PM
The insults will stop
nixon
05-15-2008, 03:06 PM
No, that would make me a liberal.Well, I'm not a liberal, but I am out of my fuckin' mind.
Wabash
05-15-2008, 03:15 PM
We will probably continue to fight the Axis of Evil. If Obie wins, it's bend over time!
The Republican version of the US is evil...I don't know where you get that last part - but waging war forever is not "American" It is more like a pseudo-macho game that we can't keep up into eternity. Let us fight from necessity - not for "macho" adventure:ringo :sumo[/QUOTE]
You are correct in this, we can't wage war forever or we will be like the Romans, over extended and weakened, with a nation full of greed and queers! Romans then, USA now! Ca. just went more pro-queer then they were already. Pubs may have one version of evil, but Dems have another....neither one very good.
Wabash,
Originally Posted by April15 View Post
The US is not the same country you grew up in. That nation had conscience and ethics. The nation of today is about showmanship and greed, despite the national show of generosity our own people will suffer as a result.
You just described Bill Clinton to a T!
Also RR and both bushs.
It has changed alright, from people with honor, independence and fortitude, to people with limp wrists, govt. dependent and mush for brains. That's what we got from liberalism starting back in the late 60s, more in the early 70s ..under the Democratic Congress. Watch for more of the same and worse, come next year.
And I sweat your Marxist-Muslim lovers direction for America, as I have seen enough of your fucking Congress, talk about IDIOTS!!:mw:mw:mw
Yep, see above!!!:ringo
You Republicans are out of your damn trees: You have to be to see the country falling apart and snowballing under this regime and still swear and be-damned it is the ONLY way:ohyeah:voodoo:deadhorse...It is the way to go third world in a hurry:godzilla Queers HELL - There are as many Republican queers as there are Democrat - I would think more from what I am seeing demonstrated. Your wedge issues are, at best, anachronistic If the Republicans stay in charge, I give this former country four to ten years to go belly-up - REAL Democrats CAN turn it around:idea
waterdog
05-15-2008, 07:10 PM
You Republicans are out of your damn trees: You have to be to see the country falling apart and snowballing under this regime and still swear and be-damned it is the ONLY way:ohyeah:voodoo:deadhorse...It is the way to go third world in a hurry:godzilla Queers HELL - There are as many Republican queers as there are Democrat - I would think more from what I am seeing demonstrated. Your wedge issues are, at best, anachronistic If the Republicans stay in charge, I give this former country four to ten years to go belly-up - REAL Democrats CAN turn it around:idea
Tell em, Jim! :thumbsup
(BTW, your Ringo impression is getting better all the time - but you need to use all caps and cuss a little more. :lmao Oh, and throw in the words "commie" and "traitor" randomly also. :) )
nixon
05-15-2008, 07:15 PM
Tell em, Jim! :thumbsup
(BTW, your Ringo impression is getting better all the time - but you need to use all caps and cuss a little more. :lmao Oh, and throw in the words "commie" and "traitor" randomly also. :) )Yep, see above:akbar:akbar:akbar:mw:akbar:mw:mw:akbar
Thread title from Ringo:
Tell me liberals, just how bad is the United States?
The person who talks the most about how bad the United States is is Ringo. He dams everything that we do except fight wars.
I don't see the U.S. as being as bad as he represents it to be except for the past 7+ years of really inept leadership.
Since 1981 we have only had a Democratic president for 8 years. That means for nearly 20 years a Republican has been at the head of the U.S. government.
Are you asking us to explain just how much those years of Republican leadership have screwed up our country?
:huh2:waiting
Judge Smails
05-16-2008, 02:20 AM
Say ringo...just wondering, with your experience as a bounty hunter and your zeal for the conflict in Iraq, what the hell are you doing in South Dakota? I would think that a person that has your passion for the bush administration would be stationed somewhere in the Middle East. They are certainly accepting volunteers, especially those patriotic citizens that have your type of a backround.
Is there an excuse....I mean a problem?
nixon
05-16-2008, 04:55 AM
Say ringo...just wondering, with your experience as a bounty hunter and your zeal for the conflict in Iraq, what the hell are you doing in South Dakota? I would think that a person that has your passion for the bush administration would be stationed somewhere in the Middle East. They are certainly accepting volunteers, especially those patriotic citizens that have your type of a backround.
Is there an excuse....I mean a problem?In so many words I have asked the same question. I was told by another member that Ringo is too old.
Trueblue
05-16-2008, 05:08 AM
Private industry doesn't have the same age requirements, though.
Tell em, Jim! :thumbsup
(BTW, your Ringo impression is getting better all the time - but you need to use all caps and cuss a little more. :lmao Oh, and throw in the words "commie" and "traitor" randomly also. :) )
I never cussed rhat much!!:D as for all this "Commie" BS, some should have lived in a part of the Great Depression as I did.:shakehead:sad This Republican stance is as ridiculous as saying that if I were any good, I would own land where I grew up(fotr the most part)...Hell the land was all taken before I was born...perhaps I could have taken some at gun point or by extortion(No one wanted to tangle with theX Boys there etc:godzilla - but I wasn't reared in any such manner...:shrug2
Ringo
05-16-2008, 06:10 AM
Oh...we have a new toy to play with. I hope it is one of those toys that gets more interesting the more you play with it....because upon first look...it ain't that impressive.
Yeeaahasss, it will be like watching a bunch of SHEEP playing Tennis without the Rackets!!??!!??!!??:LL:LL
Ringo
05-16-2008, 06:15 AM
The insults will stop
Sag it would help if you took your CAUTION FLAG out of your LEFT HAND, and remember its NOT CHECKERED, its YELLOW!!
Your INSULTS are coming from the USUAL suspects towards NEW members that DARE come into THEIR Forum of Mutual Admiration ASS KISSIN!! HELP YA????
Lone Laugher
05-16-2008, 06:15 AM
Well Ringo...when the balls we have been playing with for ages get old and lose their bounce....we need new ones.
Thread title from Ringo:
Tell me liberals, just how bad is the United States?
The person who talks the most about how bad the United States is is Ringo. He dams everything that we do except fight wars.
I don't see the U.S. as being as bad as he represents it to be except for the past 7+ years of really inept leadership.
Since 1981 we have only had a Democratic president for 8 years. That means for nearly 20 years a Republican has been at the head of the U.S. government.
Are you asking us to explain just how much those years of Republican leadership have screwed up our country?
:huh2:waiting
:back to topic
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