CIA: China could get adversarial

[toxic]

Uh-oh :shock

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2008/ea_china0124_05_09.asp

CIA: China's military could get 'adversarial'

China’s rise is posing serious challenges and its military buildup and international behavior could produce an “adversarial” relationship with the world, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden said last week.
“After two centuries of perceived Western hegemony, China seems to be determined to flex its muscles,” Hayden said.

China and India will affect strategic planning, he said. “Competition for influence will characterize the relationships between China, India, Japan and other emerging powers,” Hayden said during a speech at Kansas State University
“But China, a communist-led nuclear state that aspires to and will likely achieve great power status during this century, will be the focus of American attention in that region of the world.”

Hayden said there are differing views about China’s rise and its motivations. His view is that China is an economic competitor and increasingly becoming a “geopolitical” competitor.

“But China is not an inevitable enemy of the United States of America. There are good policy choices available to both Washington and Beijing that can keep us on the largely peaceful, constructive path that we've both been on now for about 40 years,” he said.

China’s military buildup is the most significant aspect of Beijing’s growth, Hayden said, noting that the PLA has integrated the U.S. conflict lessons learned in both Persian Gulf wars. “They've developed an integrated advanced weaponry into a modern military force,” he said.

The new Chinese military power could pose a risk to U.S. forces and interest in the region, and the military buildup is also about projecting the image of strength, he said.

“It sees an advanced military force as an essential element of great power status, and it is the intelligence community's view that any Chinese government, even a democratic one, would have similar nationalist goals.”

[wreck]

China was the "big enemy" before 9/11. Looks like they are stepping back up onstage.

[patriotsblade]

:spazz :panic :spazz :roll

Sorry, I wish there was more I could add here, but I don't respond with any seriousness to fearmongering.

[Wabash]

:spazz :panic :spazz :roll

Sorry, I wish there was more I could add here, but I don't respond with any seriousness to fearmongering.

Too bad...when the enemy knocks you down and keeps going, I'll remind you of that...oh wait...if we go to war with China, I won't be here...the West coast will be the first nuked!

China is going to be a major problem in the future...how far in the future, I don't know, but I predicted this a couple years ago.
Russia will be our ally and most of the Asian countries will go with China.
NK and Iran are nothing compared to China!

[Lone Laugher]

Too bad...when the enemy knocks you down and keeps going, I'll remind you of that...oh wait...if we go to war with China, I won't be here...the West coast will be the first nuked!

China is going to be a major problem in the future...how far in the future, I don't know, but I predicted this a couple years ago. Russia will be our ally and most of the Asian countries will go with China.
NK and Iran are nothing compared to China!

Wow! You are sooooo smart! Where would we be without you to tell us how you have predicted shit years ago! Amazing! SUPERWABS!

[Saguaro]

They don't have to attack us, they just have call in our debt

[Wabash]

Wow! You are sooooo smart! Where would we be without you to tell us how you have predicted shit years ago! Amazing! SUPERWABS!
Yep...you finally figured it out!:LL

They don't have to attack us, they just have call in our debt

Well, think a bit further Sag............................


when we can't or won't pay our debt, then what do you think will be next? I'm not talkin short term here....it could be years or decades away...but the weaker we get with Libs like Obie, and the stronger China gets(every damn day)...we will be soooooooooo screwed!

[Saguaro]

We were weakened by Bush's revenge war

[Wabash]

We were weakened by Bush's revenge war

Well, I respectfully disagree. Even thou troop strength is depleted and much equipment has been lost from normal battles...or abnormal ones if you will, every war, like every auto race, is a learning experience. We learn from our mistakes, we learn about the enemy, we try new tactics and technology and believe it or not, we become stronger and smarter....
This war may be whatever you think it is, but above all, it's a study of and learning curve on our enemies.

[Wabash]

Here is some food for thought Sag and I would like to share it.....
This is the most interesting thing I've read in a long time. The sad thing about it, you can see it coming.I have always heard about this democracy countdown. It is interesting to see it in print. God help us, not that we deserve it.

How Long Do We Have......

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000
years earlier: "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government." "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury." "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequences

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

3. from courage to liberty;

4. from liberty to abundance;

5. from abundance to complacency;

6. from complacency to apathy;

7. from apathy to dependence;

8. from dependence back into bondage"

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by: Democrats: 19

Republicans: 29

Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000

Republicans: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127million Republicans: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country.

Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"Complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some 40% of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

I would like to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE,
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE

[Lone Laugher]

Yep...you finally figured it out!:LL



Well, think a bit further Sag............................


when we can't or won't pay our debt, then what do you think will be next? I'm not talkin short term here....it could be years or decades away...but the weaker we get with Libs like Obie, and the stronger China gets(every damn day)...we will be soooooooooo screwed!


Prediction alert!!! Great strategy, by the way...make predictions that won't come to fruition until everyone who reads them is dead and buried!

[Lone Laugher]

Well, I respectfully disagree. Even thou troop strength is depleted and much equipment has been lost from normal battles...or abnormal ones if you will, every war, like every auto race, is a learning experience. We learn from our mistakes, we learn about the enemy, we try new tactics and technology and believe it or not, we become stronger and smarter....
This war may be whatever you think it is, but above all, it's a study of and learning curve on our enemies.

It's War College! And we are carrying a straight-on 2.0!!

[Lone Laugher]

Ahem! Attention Everyone.

Please proceed quietly to the "DISCLAIMER" located approximately 3/4 down the page cited below. Thank You.

http://law.hamline.edu/node/784


You NEVER fail, Wabby. You are priceless! Seriously....when are you going to learn to check your sources? My BS detector went wild when I saw your post.

[Ringo]

Too bad...when the enemy knocks you down and keeps going, I'll remind you of that...oh wait...if we go to war with China, I won't be here...the West coast will be the first nuked!

China is going to be a major problem in the future...how far in the future, I don't know, but I predicted this a couple years ago.
Russia will be our ally and most of the Asian countries will go with China.
NK and Iran are nothing compared to China!

Didn't help when Liberal HERO'S Clinton-Gore sold them the highly specialized Missle Guidance system, for Campaign cash! Oh Wait it was ONLY about SEX, not RAPE or ASSAULT, SEX!!

One thing for sure the Chinks know that should they confront, there would be a fucking RAIN of Nukes on their Cities and militarty structures!! They have everything going for them, since Clinton sold out America to them, so they need not risk War!! Should the Right Liberals get iin Power here they can probably just walk in and take the keys! It would cost them a few thousand troops as the populace with BALLS will fight back, as the rest of you cook their Rice!!:mw:mw:godzilla

[Wabash]

Ahem! Attention Everyone.

Please proceed quietly to the "DISCLAIMER" located approximately 3/4 down the page cited below. Thank You.

http://law.hamline.edu/node/784


You NEVER fail, Wabby. You are priceless! Seriously....when are you going to learn to check your sources? My BS detector went wild when I saw your post.
Well, ok...Prof. Olson denies saying that...so let us go with the rest of the info from Tyler....it's sobering and i believe it to be correct!
Why do you have to be such a smart ass all the time?

[Lone Laugher]

Uh......follow the pretty red link to the Snopes article...The other info is, for the most part, BS as well.

Why do I have to be a smart ass? Because it is fun? Because I am pretty good at it?

Why not take it as positive reinforcement for you and start to learn from your mistakes? Check your sources. It is easy and it leads to much better discussions.

[Lone Laugher]

Ooops...make that a pretty blue link........