View Full Version : Did Mccain vote for bush in 2000?
Yellowdogtexan
05-06-2008, 08:35 AM
This may be amusing to watch. Arrianna Huffington reported that mccain told her that he did not vote for bush in 2000. Now mclame is trying to deny this comment. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/what-john-mccain-told-me_b_100183.htmlThrough a spokesperson with the colorful name Tucker Bounds, McCain has denied telling me he didn't vote for Bush in 2000. "It's not true," Bounds told the Washington Post, "and I ask you to consider the source."
My sentiments exactly -- because John McCain has a long history of issuing heartfelt denials of things that were actually true.
He denied ever talking with John Kerry about his leaving the GOP to be Kerry's '04 running mate -- then later admitted he had, insisting: "Everybody knows that I had a conversation."
He denied admitting that he didn't know much about economics, even though he'd said exactly that to the Wall Street Journal. And the Boston Globe. And the Baltimore Sun.
He denied ever having asked for a budget earmark for Arizona, even though he had. On the record.
He denied that he'd ever had a meeting with comely lobbyist Vicki Iseman and her client Lowell Paxon, even though he had. And had admitted it in a legal deposition.
And those are just the outright denials. He's also repeatedly tried to spin away statements he regretted making (see: 100-year war, Iraq was a war for oil, etc.).
So, yes, by all means, "consider the source." mclame's denial is amusing in that his not voting for bush fits his pattern of extreme temper and his temper tantrums are legendary. In addition, this dispute now means that we get to discuss all of the other times that mcsame has changed his story or told lies. Again, this will be fun to watch
Yellowdogtexan
05-07-2008, 04:01 PM
The MSM is beginning to pay attention to this story. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-arianna7-2008may07,0,40316.storyA report by liberal blogger and author Arianna Huffington that John McCain had admitted not voting for George W. Bush in the 2000 presidential race spurred a minor tempest and brought angry denials from McCain's campaign Tuesday.
On her Huffington Post website Monday, the pundit said the presumptive Republican presidential nominee had confided shortly after his bitter loss nearly eight years ago that he had not voted for Bush.
McCain suffered sharp attacks from Bush supporters in the 2000 race, and his disdain for the tactics was no secret. But Huffington's revelation, if true, would debunk the Arizona senator's longtime stance as the loyal Republican who closed ranks behind Bush.....
Reached by phone in Miami, Huffington stood by her story. She said she had admired McCain but had gradually became disillusioned, persuaded that he had forsaken his maverick, truth-telling ways.
"I felt the media is so enamored with McCain and they are giving him a pass on one thing after another," Huffington said. "I think there is a disconnect in the country . . . and I felt it was time for me to tell what I knew."
Huffington said she was at a dinner party held by a Hollywood celebrity days before Bush's Jan. 20, 2001, swearing in when McCain and his wife, Cindy, confided that they had not voted for Bush. (Cindy said she had cast a write-in vote for her husband; McCain did not specify how he had marked his ballot, Huffington said.)
The McCains had just completed a bruising primary race; it included false charges that Cindy McCain was a drug addict (she had been addicted to Percocet and Vicodin after two back operations) and that McCain had fathered an illegitimate black child.
Another woman who attended the 2001 dinner said Tuesday that Cindy McCain had told her she could not bring herself to vote for Bush. The source said she did not want to be identified, so as not to alienate the McCains.My son met mccain at a book signing (we have two signed copies of his book) and could tell that mccain had some anger issues. The concept that mccain would not vote for bush due to his anger at South Carolina and the rovian tactics used against him is very believable.
Partyless
05-07-2008, 05:27 PM
Heck - I'm more inclined to vote for him if he DIDN'T vote for Bush in 2000 (or 2004). The man got skewered in SC - or rather 'Roved' - so much so that my dyed in the wool Southern Democrat father voted for McCain in the SC primary as his version of an 'apology' for what the Bushies did to him! There's no way my dad would vote for him in the General election but in the primary, he didn't mind it so much. Besides - half the Republicans in SC were voting in the Democratic primary it really didn't matter!
I was a huge McCain supporter in 2000 - he's constantly and consistently disappointed me since - especially since ie basicaly sold his soul for this nomination.
Yellowdogtexan
05-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Heck - I'm more inclined to vote for him if he DIDN'T vote for Bush in 2000 (or 2004). The man got skewered in SC - or rather 'Roved' - so much so that my dyed in the wool Southern Democrat father voted for McCain in the SC primary as his version of an 'apology' for what the Bushies did to him! There's no way my dad would vote for him in the General election but in the primary, he didn't mind it so much.It would have helped with me also but mclame fears that it will hurt with the conservatives who do not like him.
I tend to believe that mccain let his temper get the best of him and did not vote for bush in 2000. Remember that mccain consider changing parties after this mess and even talked to Kerry about being Kerry's VP. Mccain's temper is legendary and mccain can hold onto a grudge for a long period of time.
Yellowdogtexan
05-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Two more people have come forward and called mc :cane a liar and have stated that they heard mc :cane admit that he refused to vote for bush in 2000 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/us/politics/09huffington.html?ref=politicsNow two other guests at the same dinner, given by the actress Candice Bergen, at her home in Beverly Hills, say they heard much the same thing as Ms. Huffington. Both of them, the former “West Wing” actors Bradley Whitford and Richard Schiff, were asked by Ms. Huffington to speak to The New York Times. Mr. Whitford said he would be supporting the Democratic nominee and had donated to Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama; Mr. Schiff is supporting Mr. Obama.
Mr. Whitford, who played Josh Lyman, the deputy White House chief of staff on the NBC series, said in a telephone interview on Thursday that he was sitting across from Mr. McCain and next to Ms. Huffington at the small dinner and that he was startled to hear the senator sharply criticize Mr. Bush. The senator has long blamed the Bush campaign for smear tactics against his family in the 2000 South Carolina primary, but by the end of the campaign Mr. McCain was publicly supporting his rival.
“McCain was just sort of going off on how much he disliked Bush and the horrible things that the Bush campaign had done to his family in South Carolina, and his exasperation with Bush about his ridiculous tax cuts and he really wanted to talk to him about it, but he said the guy doesn’t have the concentration, and you talk for 10 minutes and then the guy wants to talk about baseball,” Mr. Whitford said.
Another guest then asked Mr. McCain, Mr. Whitford recalled, whether he had voted for Mr. Bush. “And he put his finger in front of his mouth and mouthed, ‘No way,’ ” Mr. Whitford said.
Mr. Schiff, who played Toby Ziegler, the White House communications director on “The West Wing,” said he was listening to Mr. McCain from the other of the two tables in the room.
“Someone asked, ‘What do you think of Bush?’ ” Mr. Schiff recalled. “My recollection, and I have to qualify this, because I’m not 100 percent sure he used this word, but my recollection is that McCain said that Bush was dangerous and he didn’t trust him. Then this person said, ‘Why did you support him?’ And McCain said, ‘It was my obligation as a Republican to support the Republican candidate.’ And the person said, ‘Did you vote for him?’ And McCain said, ‘No.’ ” mc :cane is a hot head. mc :cane has denied this story but more and more people have come forward to verify it. This will be fun to watch but it is clear that mc :cane may have to explain his 2000 vote some more before this race is over.
Trueblue
05-09-2008, 07:39 PM
After how Bush and cronies treated McCane, I don't blame him for not voting for Bush. But why keep changing his story? :no
Is there no limit to what Mc:cane will flip-flop on ~ even his own words!
Yellowdogtexan
05-09-2008, 10:07 PM
But why keep changing his story? :no Because mc :cane is very weak with the gop base many of whom do not trust him. If they find out that he lied about supporting the party, then this would hurt him with voters who are already distrustful of him.
Trueblue
05-10-2008, 04:29 PM
I understand exactly why he's doing it, just not how he can't see that the straight talk express has left the tracks.
Yellowdogtexan
05-11-2008, 04:57 PM
One of the key themes that the Democrats will use is that a vote for mc :cane is a vote for a third term for bush. mc :cane is worried about the charge that he did not vote for bush in 2000 due to his temper and so really helped this talking point in an interview with Billo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176RAqennIcPart of the interview will be used by the Democrats or a 527 to show that mc :cane is linked to bush and the reast of the interview will be used to show that mc :cane lied about voting for bush in 2000. The Young Turks are correct in that mc :cane came off as a liar in this clip on this issue.
The fact that three people have confirmed Huffington's story helps a great deal. This is not a major issue but will be fun to watch. It is clear that mc :cane has been caught in a big lie.:LL
Yellowdogtexan
05-13-2008, 05:23 PM
This is amusing. There are now numerous witnesses to mc :cane and mrs mc :cane both stating at a dinner at Candice Bergen's house that mc :cane and mrs mc :cane did not vote for bush in 2000. mc :cane has also stated to bushies that he voted ofr bush in 2000. As noted by one source, this means that one of two things is true. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/336So take your pick:
1) McCain did vote for Bush in 2000, but lied about his vote so he could pander more effectively to Hollywood types.
2) McCain didn't vote for Bush in 2000 and told the truth at Candice Bergen's party, but has revised history now that he needs to pander to Bush's base.
Either way, it looks like the Straight Talk Express is heading for Dead Man's Curve - and there's nobody at the wheel. This is not a big issue but it does have the potential to make mc :cane admit that he either lied to the Hollywood types or lied to the bushies. Either way, mc :cane is a liar.
toxic
05-13-2008, 07:00 PM
I saw that OReilly interview and clearly McCain was trying to stall, to avoid lying, but finally caved in.
Trueblue
05-14-2008, 05:11 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/09/mccain-lies-to-oreilly-sa_n_100978.html
Yellowdogtexan
05-14-2008, 06:45 AM
Here is a good clip on Huffington discussing the mc :cane vote issue on MSM http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/13/arianna-on-inside-edition_n_101599.html She has witnesses to mc :cane 's comments and mc :cane does not come off as telling the truth in his denials
Yellowdogtexan
06-12-2008, 08:41 PM
Here is a good interview with Huffington http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpsr05X-v4U
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