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Saguaro
04-30-2008, 09:43 AM
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli troops were unable to identify Reuters News cameraman Fadel Shana as a journalist before they fired at him from a tank, the Israeli army said on Wednesday, citing the preliminary results of an investigation.

Shana died while filming on a road in central Gaza on April 16. Five other Palestinians also died in the attack.

Shana had been traveling in a vehicle that was marked with large press and TV stickers on the front and sides and was wearing blue body amour with "Press" in large blue letters on a white fluorescent panel on the front.

Responding to repeated requests for an official explanation of the incident, Israeli military spokeswoman Major Avital Leibovich said the army had not yet completed its investigation but would provide a full account as soon as possible.

"The initial investigation showed they were not identified as members of the press," she said.

Nineteen Palestinians died that day after militants killed three Israeli soldiers who were on a raid into Gaza. Doctors said 24-year old Shana was killed by metal darts sprayed from a tank shell. His final moments of footage show the shell being fired by a tank around 1.5 km (1 mile) away.

His colleague Wafa Abu Mizyed was wounded by a dart.

Reuters News editors met Leibovich and representatives of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office on Wednesday to urge the Israeli military to share the findings of its investigation.

"We owe it to the family of Fadel Shana and journalists working for Reuters and other media organizations to establish exactly what happened two weeks ago," said Mark Thompson, Reuters News managing editor for Europe, Middle East and Africa.

"We urge the Israeli army to conduct its investigation as thoroughly and speedily as possible."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080430/ts_nm/palestinians_israel_reuters_dc;_ylt=Ak0zxE5uvRNT2d uspN.Va6is0NUE

patriotsblade
04-30-2008, 01:33 PM
:bullshit

patriotsblade
04-30-2008, 01:40 PM
Shana had been traveling in a vehicle that was marked with large press and TV stickers on the front and sides and was wearing blue body amour with "Press" in large blue letters on a white fluorescent panel on the front.

The guy was actually filming the tank that fired on him. Someone with a $50 pair of Wal-Mart field glasses could have seen the press markings on him and his vehicle. (Surely they could afford some of those with the 8 Billion dollars worth of military aid they get from the American taxpayers every year.) They just didn't care. They kill anyone they want to and the world just gives them a fucking pass every damn time. :pissed

Here's the video for anyone who wants to see it. There's no gore, it just illustrates what happened.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b1c_1208421211

Trueblue
04-30-2008, 04:46 PM
:no

toxic
04-30-2008, 05:08 PM
Nineteen Palestinians died that day after militants killed three Israeli soldiers who were on a raid into Gaza. Doctors said 24-year old Shana was killed by metal darts sprayed from a tank shell. His final moments of footage show the shell being fired by a tank around 1.5 km (1 mile) away.

His colleague Wafa Abu Mizyed was wounded by a dart.
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I have always consider flechette rounds to be sick. I imagine getting a load of them in the face.

They are little nails with fins. Thousands of the darts are in tank rounds and missiles. They fan out and indiscriminately wound and kill everything in the area.

In PB's video you can see the dispersal burst just before the video ends.

To fire these in a residential area is criminal. It indicates that they are trying to kill/maim anyone and everyone in the neighborhood.

http://www.conspiracy-times.com/images/articles_images/flechette.jpg

http://www.aircav.com/img/cav/4aa_wdu.gif

toxic
04-30-2008, 05:20 PM
Whoa check this.

Wikopedia claims they may violate the Forth Geneva Convention provisions for defending non-combatants.

They specifically mention IDF forces using them in in Gaza.

God's chosen people - my ass.


In Vietnam, they were specified for use during massive assaults where you might have hundreds of enemy trying to over-run your camp. That is probably reasonable. Using them in Gaza is BS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette

Ringo
05-03-2008, 07:03 AM
The guy was actually filming the tank that fired on him. Someone with a $50 pair of Wal-Mart field glasses could have seen the press markings on him and his vehicle. (Surely they could afford some of those with the 8 Billion dollars worth of military aid they get from the American taxpayers every year.) They just didn't care. They kill anyone they want to and the world just gives them a fucking pass every damn time. :pissed

Here's the video for anyone who wants to see it. There's no gore, it just illustrates what happened.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b1c_1208421211

Kill ANYONE they want to, says Pattyrot, UNLIKE the peaceful fucking camel jockeys, and there alla babba bullshit, of cutting off heads and BLOWING themselves up at CIVILIAN weddings and funerals!! These are Pattyrot and TB and Toxics HEROS, as TERRORISTS can do NO wrong, as long as they are killing Christians and people of Peace!! Hate to say this but if it was MEDIA I say GOOD SHOT, as the traitor pricks will disclose your position adn sell your ass out in aminute to the ENEMY!!!

Ringo
05-03-2008, 07:07 AM
Whoa check this.

Wikopedia claims they may violate the Forth Geneva Convention provisions for defending non-combatants.

They specifically mention IDF forces using them in in Gaza.

God's chosen people - my ass.


In Vietnam, they were specified for use during massive assaults where you might have hundreds of enemy trying to over-run your camp. That is probably reasonable. Using them in Gaza is BS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette PROBABLY REASONABLE TO USE???

Probably resonable to use an overwhelming assault on your camp????????? I am sure glad I didn't serve in the same outfit as you, as kissing and talking to these savage pricks intent on killing your young ass, was not an OPTION!!:hulk