Obama 'outraged' by Wright's remarks

[Saguaro]

CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama said he is "outraged" by comments his former minister, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, made Monday at the National Press Club and "saddened by the spectacle."

"I have been a member of Trinity Church since 1992. I have known Rev. Wright for almost 20 years," he said at a news conference in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. "The person I saw yesterday is not the person I met 20 years ago."

Obama said he is outraged by Wright's remarks that seemed to suggest the U.S. government might be responsible for the spread of AIDS in the black community, and his equation of some American wartime efforts with terrorism.

"What particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing," said Obama, who added that Wright had shown "little regard for me" and seemed more concerned with "taking center stage."

Obama said Wright's comments were not only "divisive and destructive," but they also "end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate."

Obama said he did not think Wright's comments accurately portrayed the perspective of the black church and said they "certainly do not portray accurately" his own values and beliefs.

Earlier this year, some of Wright's outspoken sermons, circulated and widely discussed on the Internet and on television, became an issue in the Democratic presidential race because of the former pastor's ties to Obama.

In one sermon, Wright said America had brought the September 11, 2001, attacks upon itself. In another, he said Sen. Hillary Clinton had an advantage over Obama because she is white.

Obama gave a speech on race relations during the height of the controversy with Wright and said he rejected Wright's racially charged comments but could not repudiate the man himself.


Obama on Monday said Wright's remarks were "antithetical to our campaign, it was antithetical to what we're about."

"I cannot prevent him from making these remarks," but "when I say I find these comments appalling I mean it. It contradicts what I'm about and who I am ... It is completely opposed to what I stand for and where I want to take this country."

In a break with previous comments, Obama focused his criticism on Wright the man, and not simply his remarks.

Obama said he gave Wright "the benefit of the doubt" before his speech on race relations.

"What we saw yesterday from Rev. Wright was a resurfacing and, I believe, an exploitation of these old divisions," Obama said.

Obama said he did not see a transcript of Wright's remarks until Tuesday.

He said he had not spoken with Wright since the minister's Monday speech, though he would not rule out a conversation with him in the future.

Obama said his relationship with Wright may have suffered irreparable harm. "There's been great damage," he said. "It may have been unintentional on his part, but I do not see that relationship being the same after this."

Asked if he would continue attending the church, Obama said "as of this point I am a member of Trinity."

He said he still values the church's community but does not want to be a distraction for those who are worshiping.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/29/obama.wright/index.html

[Lone Laugher]

That's too bad.

[Yellowdogtexan]

This is appropriate. Here is a decent analysis of the situation. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/29/152747/672/647/505821In his Philadelphia speech last month Obama couldn't openly repudiate Wright without risking a negative reaction from voters, especially African Americans, would see him as an ingrate, willing to cast aside people who've become inconvenient. Now, however, as Wright goes around the country performing as a caricature of what many white voters will perceive as "The Scary Black Man," Obama has an obligation to repudiate Wright. Failing to repudiate Wright risks allowing the GOP (and until then presumably the Clinton campaign) to use Wright as the Black proxy with which to scare off white voters. White people who aren't solid GOP voters aren't personally scared by Obama, but they could be scared away from Obama if they're afraid that as President he'll bring a bunch of "Scary Black Men" along with him in to the White House.

As long as Wright continues to blab, Obama not only has the obligation to repudiate him, he has the opportunity. This afternoon, he took advantage of the opportunity.

[Ringo]

I hope Tart has Whiplash insurance as I expect many of the Sheep will need to lie up behind Doggie, for a violent RIGHT turn, so as to stay in step with Odummy!!

Wright is a bastard and it takes this long for Odummy to realize how truly off in the head this asshole is, but hey he is a Liberal so it doesn't register that quickly!! Hillary has to be quite pleased to see all this disarray, in the Black Muslim camp!! Media Matters will play this up and I am sure we will get some UNoriginal thoughts from Doggie & TB straight from the Degenerated Nuts Commitee of expert idiots!! Stand by to LAUGH YOUR ASS OFF!!!:sheep:charge:tb:mw:mw:devil:sheep

[sparks]

I actually find Wright to be a charismatic speaker!

I think Obama is doing some political posturing with this latest denunciation of Wright where as in his speech he gave on race he didn't throw the man to the dogs, but denounced some of his sentiments.

Ya know...Carl Rove suggested recently that Obama come out stronger against Wright if indeed he wanted to win the election in November...I guess Obama's heeding his suggestions. I can't deny that Rove is a very intelligent man when it comes to getting one elected, but I can't say I really trust him, nor do I really approve of some of his methods. However, his methods do seem to work. Hell if he got GWB elected, he can get anybody elected!

[Yellowdogtexan]

I actually find Wright to be a charismatic speaker!Jon Steward got a kick out of him on The Daily Show last night. However, Wright is trying to hurt the Obama campaign and it is appropriate for Obama to distance himself from Rev. Wright. Wright's statements over the last couple of days are silly and there is no way that these statements should be attributed to Senator Obama.

[Electra]

The Chickens have come to roost on Rev. Wright's head. LOL.

[grabsomebench]

The Wright thing is old news. Obama has repudiated everything controversial Wright has said. Wright is an old black guy who has different life experiences than the half white, Harvard educated Obama who wants to unite our country, not divide it. Obama tried to cut Wright some slack before, but now, after Wrights latest rants even going so far as to criticize Obama, he's gone. The networks need to turn off the TV coverage of Wright who wants to sell a book and make money off his rants.

[Trueblue]

The Wright thing is old news. Obama has repudiated everything controversial Wright has said. Wright is an old black guy who has different life experiences than the half white, Harvard educated Obama who wants to unite our country, not divide it. Obama tried to cut Wright some slack before, but now, after Wrights latest rants even going so far as to criticize Obama, he's gone. The networks need to turn off the TV coverage of Wright who wants to sell a book and make money off his rants.

That pretty much sums it up.

[Ringo]

That pretty much sums it up.

Whats the matter Spin Queen this asshole was a HERO to you and your boyfriend Doggie along with Pattyrot and other dimwits the other day???

O Dummy speaks and you SHEEP fall right in line like Pavlovs dogs, and I am sure you went along with Bull Frogs assessment on the Aids Virus, being created by a Right Wing Govt to kill Blacks, as you have yet to comeup with an ORIGINAL thought outside the DNC or ODUMMY Camp!!!:tb:mw:mw:mw:mw

[sparks]

Whats the matter Spin Queen this asshole was a HERO to you and your boyfriend Doggie along with Pattyrot and other dimwits the other day???

O Dummy speaks and you SHEEP fall right in line like Pavlovs dogs, and I am sure you went along with Bull Frogs assessment on the Aids Virus, being created by a Right Wing Govt to kill Blacks, as you have yet to comeup with an ORIGINAL thought outside the DNC or ODUMMY Camp!!!:tb:mw:mw:mw:mw

Who's to say AIDS isn't a biological weapon created by some government? Hey, we'd probably never know!

[nixon]

Whats the matter Spin Queen this asshole was a HERO to you and your boyfriend Doggie along with Pattyrot and other dimwits the other day???

O Dummy speaks and you SHEEP fall right in line like Pavlovs dogs, and I am sure you went along with Bull Frogs assessment on the Aids Virus, being created by a Right Wing Govt to kill Blacks, as you have yet to comeup with an ORIGINAL thought outside the DNC or ODUMMY Camp!!!:tb:mw:mw:mw:mwHe speaks and you fall right in line? So enlighten me as to who should America rall:mw:mw:mw:mwy behind. That old senile fuck? I can see why you like him, you two buy the big economy sized Geritol!!!!

[Ringo]

Jon Steward got a kick out of him on The Daily Show last night. However, Wright is trying to hurt the Obama campaign and it is appropriate for Obama to distance himself from Rev. Wright. Wright's statements over the last couple of days are silly and there is no way that these statements should be attributed to Senator Obama.

Why not, You far left Progressives have used everything that has gone wrong in the Bush years, and tied it directly to Bush, so grow up whiner!! Odummy is only posturing here for the sake of thinking he might accidentaly get enough sheep and idiots to Elect him, and like TB you are to damn dumb to notice a Far Left America hater!! Didn't Bill Ayers give you a clue, yOu Legal Aid benchwarmer???

FARAKHAN-WRIGHT-OBAMA....THE *HATE* TRIO!!:Q:theman:Q:godzilla:godzilla

[sparks]

Why not, You far left Progressives have used everything that has gone wrong in the Bush years, and tied it directly to Bush, so grow up whiner!! Odummy is only posturing here for the sake of thinking he might accidentaly get enough sheep and idiots to Elect him, and like TB you are to damn dumb to notice a Far Left America hater!! Didn't Bill Ayers give you a clue, yOu Legal Aid benchwarmer???

FARAKHAN-WRIGHT-OBAMA....THE *HATE* TRIO!!:Q:theman:Q:godzilla:godzilla

Tell me dear...who are we supposed to attribute his fuck ups too? :think

[sparks]

He speaks and you fall right in line? So enlighten me as to who should America rall:mw:mw:mw:mwy behind. That old senile fuck? I can see why you like him, you two buy the big economy sized Geritol!!!!

With the price of everything going up we all may have to cut some deals for our goods. :rofl

[Saguaro]

Ok Ringo ,get your point across without the insults

[Ringo]

Who's to say AIDS isn't a biological weapon created by some government? Hey, we'd probably never know!

Sparky take some Valium, get hold of yourself, ask your Doctor? Bullfrog said it was AMERICA, and he said it in the TRUE HATE tone that is the signature of the fucking NEW PROGRESSIVE Liberals and thier Muslim Brothers!!!

He is a complete DICK, and even Odummy seems to finally notice this or he is just doiing the normal Dem Politician thing and LYING for the immediate benefit!!!

[Ringo]

Tell me dear...who are we supposed to attribute his fuck ups too? :think

Do the LIBERAL thing Blame it on someone else!!! Give me a list of his Major fuck ups and then give me a list of Bill Clinton and the Liberal Congress's fuckups also, can you do that??

[Ringo]

Ok Ringo ,get your point across without the insults

The TRUTH is now an insult?? My point is pretty clear to me, Wright is an asshole, an Un American HATER, and to many people believe this to be the best Policy, as they themselves are so full of Pity and Hate, its hard for them to function!! Help You?

[Yellowdogtexan]

Do the LIBERAL thing Blame it on someone else!!! Give me a list of his Major fuck ups and then give me a list of Bill Clinton and the Liberal Congress's fuckups also, can you do that??This sentence makes less sense than normal for Ringo. Again, the issue is that mccain is running for a third term for bush and therefore it is fair to tar and feather mccain with the failures of the bush administration. Mccain is now advocating a million years in Iraq and continuation of bush's failed economic policies. These are valid grounds for attacking mccain and will be used in the general election

[Yellowdogtexan]

Some satire from Andy Borowitz is appropriate given the silliness from ringo. Obama De-friends Wright on Facebook

Signals Complete Break with Former Pastor

In an act that campaign insiders said indicated an irrevocable break with his former pastor, Sen. Barack Obama today de-friended the Rev. Jeremiah Wright on Facebook.

Sen. Obama’s comments about Rev. Wright on Tuesday seemed to indicate that a total rift with his former minister was underway, but his decision to de-friend Rev. Wright on Facebook underscores the seriousness of his decision.

At a press conference in Gary, Indiana, chief Obama strategist David Axelrod said that Sen. Obama had to de-friend the Rev. Wright on Facebook “because he was getting really annoying.”

“Every day, Rev. Wright was sending Sen. Obama new Facebook applications like ‘What Superhero Are You?’ and ‘What 1980’s Toy Are You?’” Mr. Axelrod said. “After awhile, enough is enough.”

Rev. Wright, who was the commencement speaker today at Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College in Sarasota, Florida, made no reference to Sen. Obama, instead saying that the United States government “is plotting to invade the Moon.”

On CNN, Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean expressed fears that if the primary campaign drags on much longer, “there may not be enough room under the bus for the candidates to throw their aides.”

With Sen.Obama having thrown Rev. Wright and Samantha Power under the bus, and Sen. Clinton having thrown Geraldine Ferraro, Patti Solis Doyle, and Mark Penn under the bus, “we may need an additional bus,” Mr. Dean said.

[sparks]

Some satire from Andy Borowitz is appropriate given the silliness from ringo.


I wonder if Obama ditched him on MySpace too? :rofl

[Ringo]

He speaks and you fall right in line? So enlighten me as to who should America rall:mw:mw:mw:mwy behind. That old senile fuck? I can see why you like him, you two buy the big economy sized Geritol!!!!

No Insults here cocksucker or Sag might get mad! did they let Grade School out early today? How many years you been in the 8th grade Jethro??:akbar:akbar:mw:godzilla

[Trueblue]

I think that Wright does make many good points about race in America. However, his latest comments were unjustified attacks on Obama.

The far right is looking for a way to bash Obama for his race without coming out and saying it. I don't think it will work on anyone who was going to vote for Obama.

[Yellowdogtexan]

Senator Kerry has a great response to this silliness about Rev. Wright. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/kerry-rips-msnbc-on-wrigh_n_99491.htmlYou can watch the video by going to the link or here is a transcript. WITT: Okay. He said it. A 20-year relationship. Reverend wright married him. He is the one who baptized a god parent. How personally painful is this for him?

KERRY: Can I say something to you? Obviously it is painful and he said it. You folks need to let go of this. Television needs to stop dwelling on something that is in the past. I thought Barack Obama yesterday gave America his second big presidential moment of this campaign. The first when he spoke out about the issue of race. The second yesterday, when he made it clear, every one of the statements of the minister are just unacceptable. They're not the person that he knew before. Now let's move on to how we'll put people to work. How are you going to give people health care? How are you going to create jobs in america? What Barack Obama is offering in this gas price issue is real leadership. I mean, do we want people who sort of put their fingers in the wind and throw out an idea for the short term that is sort of politically pleasing, or do you want a here who stands up and says, no, what we need is to really lower gas prices by having a real energy policy, an intelligent policy that puts in place the incentives for renewable fuels and alternative fuels. That's what Barack Obama is doing. And it is you guys have to focus on the thing that really matter to the American electorate. The other thing is just worn out, old history now. This guy had his narcissistic moment and it is finished.

WITT: Okay. Point well taken. Did I say to begin, can I just say, sir, I knew you weren't going to like that question. On the record.

KERRY: Let's move on to the thing that really matter to people. I think people in America are tired of this stuff.

WITT: Okay.

[John Gault]

That's too bad.

Sure makes your posts in support of him look pretty dumb now, doesn't it.

[John Gault]

I actually find Wright to be a charismatic speaker!

I think Obama is doing some political posturing with this latest denunciation of Wright where as in his speech he gave on race he didn't throw the man to the dogs, but denounced some of his sentiments.

Ya know...Carl Rove suggested recently that Obama come out stronger against Wright if indeed he wanted to win the election in November...I guess Obama's heeding his suggestions. I can't deny that Rove is a very intelligent man when it comes to getting one elected, but I can't say I really trust him, nor do I really approve of some of his methods. However, his methods do seem to work. Hell if he got GWB elected, he can get anybody elected!


Gee, I guess this means Obama is not different than all the other politicians.

[John Gault]

The Wright thing is old news. Obama has repudiated everything controversial Wright has said. Wright is an old black guy who has different life experiences than the half white, Harvard educated Obama who wants to unite our country, not divide it. Obama tried to cut Wright some slack before, but now, after Wrights latest rants even going so far as to criticize Obama, he's gone. The networks need to turn off the TV coverage of Wright who wants to sell a book and make money off his rants.

But for 20 years this old man with a different experience was ok to be his spiritual leader, to marry him, to babtize his children, to listen to sermon after sermone with nary a complaint.

This calls into question Obama's judgement and his honesty.

[John Gault]

That pretty much sums it up.

You wish, it will be all new again this summer if Obama is the nom and you know it.

[John Gault]

Who's to say AIDS isn't a biological weapon created by some government? Hey, we'd probably never know!

That is the looneyist of all the things he said.

Something like that would take too many people to pull off to keep secret.

It is crap and anyone who believes it is an idiot.

[John Gault]

I think that Wright does make many good points about race in America. However, his latest comments were unjustified attacks on Obama.

The far right is looking for a way to bash Obama for his race without coming out and saying it. I don't think it will work on anyone who was going to vote for Obama.

You really think that?

You don't think there were a bunch of independents who bought into the I am a different kind of politician?

Now they know better.

This is not about Obama believing that crap from Wright, it is about Obama listening to it for 20 years, for using him as inspiration for a book.

All for political expedience. Once he was not needed or detrimental, seeya.

[BartonX]

Currently, when Obama looks at Wright, he thinks :"He is the reason they came up with the 'N' word". :rofl
And when Wright looks at Obama he sure sees a lot more of his Mama in him than he did before :LL

[Trueblue]

You wish, it will be all new again this summer if Obama is the nom and you know it.

You misunderstood my post entirely. I didn't say that this was over, I said that the poster had summed it up.

You really think that?

You don't think there were a bunch of independents who bought into the I am a different kind of politician?

Now they know better.

This is not about Obama believing that crap from Wright, it is about Obama listening to it for 20 years, for using him as inspiration for a book.

All for political expedience. Once he was not needed or detrimental, seeya.

He is different, and he is better, John. Burns you up, don't it? :lmao

[John Gault]

You misunderstood my post entirely. I didn't say that this was over, I said that the poster had summed it up.



He is different, and he is better, John. Burns you up, don't it? :lmao

He is just another politican doing what it takes to get elected.

Having good public speaking ability does not portend a good leader. Hitler used to enthrall all who listened to him, that did not turn out so good, did it?

He claims he will bring people together, how is he going to get people to buy into his leftwing policies when the public does not support them when properly informed as to what they really are.

I remember in 93 everyone was for 'free' healthcare, until they found out the details, then then they were not.

He is no different than other politicans.

[Trueblue]

He is just another politican doing what it takes to get elected.

Having good public speaking ability does not portend a good leader. Hitler used to enthrall all who listened to him, that did not turn out so good, did it?

He claims he will bring people together, how is he going to get people to buy into his leftwing policies when the public does not support them when properly informed as to what they really are.

I remember in 93 everyone was for 'free' healthcare, until they found out the details, then then they were not.

He is no different than other politicans.

An irrational comparison, based on a lack of knowledge about Obama.

Obama's policies are designed to meet in the middle, in a place that the two sides can meet.

[Lone Laugher]

It requires blinders and a massive misunderstanding of the facts to call either of the Democrat's Helath Care plans "FREE HEALTHCARE".

Your mama should have let you know when you were sucking her nips that NOTHING IS FREE.

[grabsomebench]

Obama has proven academic credentials including earning the highest honor at one of our nations best Law Schools. What academic credentials do you possess, if any, to call anyone a dummy?
By the way, Pavol's dogs did not "fall right in line"....they were trained.

[grabsomebench]

Obama has proven academic credentials including earning the highest honor at one of our nations best Law Schools. What academic credentials do you possess, if any, to call anyone a dummy?
By the way, Pavol's dogs did not "fall right in line"....they were trained.

[John Gault]

An irrational comparison, based on a lack of knowledge about Obama.

Obama's policies are designed to meet in the middle, in a place that the two sides can meet.

Not my side. My side will not tolerate national healthcare.

I will not support free college or even subsidized college for all. I will not support 99 % of what he proposes.

I can tell you that while I am pretty far from left, I am not alone how is he going to get the millions like me to meet him when we won't.

Or are the millions like me to be made to conform by the police powers of the state?

[John Gault]

It requires blinders and a massive misunderstanding of the facts to call either of the Democrat's Helath Care plans "FREE HEALTHCARE".

Your mama should have let you know when you were sucking her nips that NOTHING IS FREE.

What Hillary a proposed in 93 was a virtual takeover of medicine and it's delivery by the government.

Your right, if you think healthcare is expensive now wait till it is free.

I have read Obama's plans, all of them are either already socialist in nature or meant to be the camels nose inthe tent.

Not going along with any further slide towards socialism unless forced to at the point of a gun.

You do know that Obama 'toyed' with marxism in college and that the Liberation Theology practiced by his church is basically Marx with a black face on it.

Sorry but I am tired of compromising with the people who want to kill me.

[Lone Laugher]

JG...there may be "millions" like you....but that is not enough. I wonder why I don't feel so bad about paying a few more points in taxes? Maybe it is because I know that IN THE LONG RUN....WHEN MY KIDS AND GRANDKIDS ARE DOING THE PAYING....the pain will be a bit less intense.

[Lone Laugher]

What Hillary a proposed in 93 was a virtual takeover of medicine and it's delivery by the government.

Your right, if you think healthcare is expensive now wait till it is free.

I have read Obama's plans, all of them are either already socialist in nature or meant to be the camels nose inthe tent.

Not going along with any further slide towards socialism unless forced to at the point of a gun.

You do know that Obama 'toyed' with marxism in college and that the Liberation Theology practiced by his church is basically Marx with a black face on it.

Sorry but I am tired of compromising with the people who want to kill me.

Compromise?! You have no experience with compromise. You are only looking out for yourself.

[Trueblue]

Not my side. My side will not tolerate national healthcare.

I will not support free college or even subsidized college for all. I will not support 99 % of what he proposes.

I can tell you that while I am pretty far from left, I am not alone how is he going to get the millions like me to meet him when we won't.

Or are the millions like me to be made to conform by the police powers of the state?

Another con who can't make up his mind what he thinks about government power.

What Hillary a proposed in 93 was a virtual takeover of medicine and it's delivery by the government.

Your right, if you think healthcare is expensive now wait till it is free.

I have read Obama's plans, all of them are either already socialist in nature or meant to be the camels nose inthe tent.

Not going along with any further slide towards socialism unless forced to at the point of a gun.

You do know that Obama 'toyed' with marxism in college and that the Liberation Theology practiced by his church is basically Marx with a black face on it.

Sorry but I am tired of compromising with the people who want to kill me.

You are being rather histrionic, IMO, bringing up Hitler and Marx. You should broaden your reading.

[grabsomebench]

John Gault said:
"But for 20 years this old man with a different experience was ok to be his spiritual leader, to marry him, to babtize his children, to listen to sermon after sermone with nary a complaint. This calls into question Obama's judgement and his honesty."
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Listen to what I say here if you can, because I think you have been misinformed by some news or information source you may have mistakenly relied upon..
I know the area where Obama's church is on 95th street on the S.E. side of Chicago. The church is not a fringe church in the African American community but rather the church with the largest congregation in that community....thousands of parishioners, including a certain politician who represented and continues to represent those very people, first as State Sen. and then as a U.S. Senator. There are other African American churches along 95th street, but none nearly as large. If you look at a street sign there, East 95th Street is name "Honorary Jeremiah Wright Blvd." The Rev. Wright that you see on youtube is actually a revered pastor to thousands. If you can understand that much you should be able to understand the folly of Hillary Clintons comment that she would not have gone to that church. Can you understand that the thousands of people in that community are the constituents of Obama and part of the larger African American church community in the US?
As to the most inflammatory remarks taken out of context, I have attempted to explain those in another thread here. The bottom line is that Obama never heard the GD America and has unequivocally denounced every one of the Wright remarks that have come into issue.
Wright has some wild views like the Aids theory, but much of what he means to convey comes from his background as a black man growing up with segregation and prejudice. Obama does not share that background as he was raised by white parents and grandparents in Hawaii where he went to High School and for a time, in Indonesia when he was younger. he attended harvard and Harvard Law School. Maybe you can try to tag Obama with Wrights rants because some Holy water Wright touched when he baptized his children may have splashed on Barack.
Really, for those who care to try and know and understand who Obama is and what he stands for, the Wright thing is entirely irrelevant. Harp on about it, but most of those who are prejudiced, short sighted or closed minded have already decided they would never vote for even a half African American for President. Fear mongering only works with the weak minded.