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Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:01 PM
....so Big, that Obie has to do this........

April 29, 2008

A 'big press conference' on Wright

Obama was asked about Rev. Jeremiah Wright just now by a woman in Winston-Salem who tells the audience to watch his PBS interview, which will quell their concerns.

"I’m going to be having a big press conference afterward to talk about this," he responded, then referred back to a story the woman told about a mother having to borrow month to get to work.

"This is diverting attention from the first story that you told," Obama said.

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:03 PM
The NC ad campaign is huge and other states are picking it up!

Wright will sink Obie....and Obie knows it!

It doesn't matter how much is true or not, how much his words were taken out of context or not....the damage is done...the Seed of Doubt is in place!

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:13 PM
The question, as the Press Conference is underway, is this:

Is it TOO LATE? Will Obie throw Wright under the train and flush him down the sewer?

Now I find out that Barbara Reynolds, who organized the meeting for Wright at the Press Club, is a Hillary supporter!
She thinks Wright is a nut case from way back.

Obie is clearly distancing himself from Wright's comments as he speaks. The Obama campaign is about to be derailed in a corn field. The Clintons are Lovin it!:hotdog

Now...............my question is this: Will Wright come back and trash Obie after being flushed publically?

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 01:15 PM
So...lets be clear Wabby. Are you predicting that Obama will not win the Democratic nomination and the reason is because Reverand J. Wright was his Pastor?

Is that your prediction?

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:25 PM
So...lets be clear Wabby. Are you predicting that Obama will not win the Democratic nomination and the reason is because Reverand J. Wright was his Pastor?

Is that your prediction?
Well Obie is paying a political price for his affiliation with this church and Wright.
Obie does not look above the fray and in control during this train toss of Wright. He is looking very defensive!

Between Operation Chaos keeping Hillary in the game and Wright as an embarrassment to Obie.....the whole dynamic has changed in the past few weeks!

Obie has been doing damage control and has tossed Wright aside....He said: " The person we saw yesterday is not the person I saw 20 years ago." Well buster...he sure as hell is!!!!!

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:28 PM
Do you know who the body guards are at the Press Conferrence? They are from the Nation of Islam!

The more Obie talks, the more he is sinking himself! He is an avg. run of the mill politician, who is now being exposed!
Why has Obie waited sooooooooooooo long to speak up and toss Wright under the train??????


This is not working. What Obie is saying sounds as thou he has just heard this recently......when in fact, he has heard it for 20 years and this revelation is nothing new!

Yellowdogtexan
04-29-2008, 01:29 PM
Again, your silliness is so amusing. You really do not understand much about politics. Again, the DNC has far more on Hagee and another bigot who claims to be mcsame's spritual advisor and these statements are as bad as anything that Rev. Wright said. Since mclame has gone on record as saying that this is okay to use guilt by association, then the DNC will be glad to play this game.

As for wright, his recent speechs actually are helping Senator Obama. It is becoming clear that Senator Obama is not that close to Rev. Wright and Rev. Wright is more concerned about himself than Senator Obama. Again, only idiots and people who are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq would be dumb enough to buy these attacks. Senator Obama would never get the votes of bigots and fools who are stupid enough to believe that there are WMDs in Iraq in any case. Luckily these fools are a small part of the voting population

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 01:30 PM
So...you are not ready to say that Obama will lose the nomination. Does that mean that you are predicting that he will win the nomination?

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:31 PM
Again, your silliness is so amusing. You really do not understand much about politics. Again, the DNC has far more on Hagee and another bigot who claims to be mcsame's spritual advisor and these statements are as bad as anything that Rev. Wright said. Since mclame has gone on record as saying that this is okay to use guilt by association, then the DNC will be glad to play this game.

As for wright, his recent speechs actually are helping Senator Obama. It is becoming clear that Senator Obama is not that close to Rev. Wright and Rev. Wright is more concerned about himself than Senator Obama. Again, only idiots and people who are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq would be dumb enough to buy these attacks. Senator Obama would never get the votes of bigots and fools who are stupid enough to believe that there are WMDs in Iraq in any case. Luckily these fools are a small part of the voting population
I know enough about politics to witness the Destruction of your fucking savior! Toooooo funny...Spin away doggie...spin away!!!! You are as full of horse manure as your messiah...Obie!

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 01:34 PM
Do you know who the body guards are at the Press Conferrence? They are from the Nation of Islam!

Wabby....would you be so kind as to prove the above statement. I am just a wee bit suspicious regarding it's accuracy.

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:34 PM
Obie's association with Wright has seriously damaged his credibility and integrity!

The Clintons are LOVIN IT!

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:36 PM
Obie did more today than throw Wright under the train...he put him on a rocket ship and sent him to the Moon!
Obie is trying to save a dwindling and plunging campaign!

I'm curious to see how the liberal drivebys spin this on the evening news! They will probably try to say how courages and daring Obie is......Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Bozos!

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 01:36 PM
We heard you say that Wabby. That is all well and good. But where is your backbone, son? Can you not make a prediction? Is it too soon to tell? Are you unsure of your own ability to sift through all of the spin and see the truth?

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:42 PM
Is this the change we have been expecting from Obie?

Did Obie just now learn about Wright? Is he THAT stupid? Does he think WE are that stupid?

Obie said: "This is Not what I'm about." Well what in the Blue Blazes is he about? We don't know what the real Obie is about...or his wife!

I've been saying for months that Obie is a Snake Oil Salesman...I stand by that! I know a fraud when I see one! Obie's campaign is going to shit, because the more he attempts to explain Wright, the deeper is the hole that he digs!

Wabash
04-29-2008, 01:45 PM
We heard you say that Wabby. That is all well and good. But where is your backbone, son? Can you not make a prediction? Is it too soon to tell? Are you unsure of your own ability to sift through all of the spin and see the truth?

I think, in light of this Obie throwing Wright off the planet, that the Super Delegates will be rethinking their position and Hillary may very well get the nomination! Obie is in FULL Damage Control mode!
The teflon coating is wearing thin, like it always does ....

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 01:54 PM
Might very well....might very well not....might very well....might very well not....might very well...might very well not...what are you plucking daiseys? You sure are wishy-washy for such a prophetic being! What, with all of your past predictions so proudly announced on here after the fact....one would expect you to be rock solid on this one.

One minute you yell that "the damage is done" and the next minute you say Clinton may very well win. Geez.

Wabash
04-29-2008, 02:00 PM
Might very well....might very well not....might very well....might very well not....might very well...might very well not...what are you plucking daiseys? You sure are wishy-washy for such a prophetic being! What, with all of your past predictions so proudly announced on here after the fact....one would expect you to be rock solid on this one.

One minute you yell that "the damage is done" and the next minute you say Clinton may very well win. Geez.
Stop trying to split hairs and make a very feeble attempt at deflecting the truth here LL! The highlighted sentence means basically the same thing. Obie has seriously damaged himself by both his association with Wright for 20 years, and by his lame ass attempt to explain it away!

Wabash
04-29-2008, 02:04 PM
Let us draw a parallel here....

Hillary holds a press conf. to announce that she is divorcing Bill after all this time, because she has learned that his views are different than hers...much different, and..........she has learned that he has been cheating on her for years. Now, after just learning this, she is filing for divorce.
You gonna buy that? Same thing as Obie and Wright!

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 02:15 PM
Stop trying to split hairs and make a very feeble attempt at deflecting the truth here LL! The highlighted sentence means basically the same thing. Obie has seriously damaged himself by both his association with Wright for 20 years, and by his lame ass attempt to explain it away!

Wabby....you should know that I am simply trying to get you to MAKE ONE OF YOUR PREDICTIONS here. I am not the one splitting hairs...you are. What is your prediction? Why can't you just come out with it? Is it because you have no fucking idea who will win the nomination?

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Let us draw a parallel here....

Hillary holds a press conf. to announce that she is divorcing Bill after all this time, because she has learned that his views are different than hers...much different, and..........she has learned that he has been cheating on her for years. Now, after just learning this, she is filing for divorce.
You gonna buy that? Same thing as Obie and Wright!

That is a very tenuous parallel....and I am being kind.

Wabash
04-29-2008, 02:18 PM
Wabby....you should know that I am simply trying to get you to MAKE ONE OF YOUR PREDICTIONS here. I am not the one splitting hairs...you are. What is your prediction? Why can't you just come out with it? Is it because you have no fucking idea who will win the nomination?

Of course I don't!! I'm not a Crystal Baller! All I'm saying here is that Obie's campaign has been seriously damaged and Obie isn't helping with lame ass explanations....thus, Hillary has vicariously gained momentum! Simple as that! No prediction just info............:dancer

Wabash
04-29-2008, 02:37 PM
Do you know who the body guards are at the Press Conferrence? They are from the Nation of Islam!

Wabby....would you be so kind as to prove the above statement. I am just a wee bit suspicious regarding it's accuracy.

I know people...I don't have to prove anything for you or anyone else! You don't believe me...I don't give a rat's ass!

Wabash
04-29-2008, 02:40 PM
That is a very tenuous parallel....and I am being kind.

I think it is a very good one and I put it up so that even YOU could understand it! Are you trying to say that it is too complex for your lil bitty brain to comprehend?

nixon
04-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Do you know who the body guards are at the Press Conferrence? They are from the Nation of Islam!

Wabby....would you be so kind as to prove the above statement. I am just a wee bit suspicious regarding it's accuracy.I, too, am suspicious of that statement. I didn't know "Islam" was a nation. Does that mean that "Christianity" is also a nation? Wahhabs, please enlighten me. Nixon.

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 03:05 PM
I think it is a very good one and I put it up so that even YOU could understand it! Are you trying to say that it is too complex for your lil bitty brain to comprehend?

Yo Wabby...are you hoping to take our discussions back down into the land of insults? As I think you know, I will be happy to oblige. I'm up for a little fun at your expense if that is what you desire. Your choice.

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 03:17 PM
I know people...I don't have to prove anything for you or anyone else! You don't believe me...I don't give a rat's ass!

You know people? What does that mean. You said that the guards at "the press conference" were from the Nation of Islam. You were either referring to the National Press Club event from Monday where Rev. Wright was speaking or today's Obama press conference. In either case,I find it hard to believe. However, it is not a question of whether I believe you or not...it is a question of your ability to research your claims before you post.

Can you support your claim?

Yellowdogtexan
04-29-2008, 03:23 PM
I know enough about politics to witness the Destruction of your fucking savior! Toooooo funny...Spin away doggie...spin away!!!! You are as full of horse manure as your messiah...Obie!I assumed that you did not look at the youtube clip as to what the Democrats are going to do to mclame. You really do not understand politics. Only idiots, fools and people who are so stupid that they think that there are still WMDs in Iraq will care about this. Before you spout off, you really should consider what the Democrats are going to do to Mcsame with respect to Hagee and the other crazy preacher who claims to be mccain's spritual advisor.

Yellowdogtexan
04-29-2008, 03:24 PM
You know people? What does that mean. You said that the guards at "the press conference" were from the Nation of Islam. You were either referring to the National Press Club event from Monday where Rev. Wright was speaking or today's Obama press conference. In either case,I find it hard to believe. However, it is not a question of whether I believe you or not...it is a question of your ability to research your claims before you post.

Can you support your claim?You got to kidding. Wabby is never right and this is just one more silly claim that he has made that is wrong and shows how silly wabby is

Ringo
04-29-2008, 04:04 PM
I assumed that you did not look at the youtube clip as to what the Democrats are going to do to mclame. You really do not understand politics. Only idiots, fools and people who are so stupid that they think that there are still WMDs in Iraq will care about this. Before you spout off, you really should consider what the Democrats are going to do to Mcsame with respect to Hagee and the other crazy preacher who claims to be mccain's spritual advisor.

No crazier than some fucking Rabbi's who hang around TX and run down Israel!! PHONY!!!

Decent people will care less about you bitter whiny assed libs, as WE know the truth, wheras you know only the LIES, ok PUNK??:godzilla:godzilla

Trueblue
04-29-2008, 04:58 PM
Obie did more today than throw Wright under the train...he put him on a rocket ship and sent him to the Moon!
Obie is trying to save a dwindling and plunging campaign!

I'm curious to see how the liberal drivebys spin this on the evening news! They will probably try to say how courages and daring Obie is......Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Bozos!

And yet he still beats McCain in the polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

Wabash
04-29-2008, 05:15 PM
I, too, am suspicious of that statement. I didn't know "Islam" was a nation. Does that mean that "Christianity" is also a nation? Wahhabs, please enlighten me. Nixon.
Louis Farrakhan's boys were the body guards at the Press Club meeting. Surely nix, you have heard of these Racist anti white types?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan

I assumed that you did not look at the youtube clip as to what the Democrats are going to do to mclame. You really do not understand politics. Only idiots, fools and people who are so stupid that they think that there are still WMDs in Iraq will care about this. Before you spout off, you really should consider what the Democrats are going to do to Mcsame with respect to Hagee and the other crazy preacher who claims to be mccain's spritual advisor.
No doggie, I did not! I remember all too well about the puffed out chest attitude of the Whacko Left in 2000 and 2004...and then.........George won!!!...Ohhhh the whining that went on and still goes on today...was hilarious! A Demo has a good chance of winning this year....but, damn...if you guys are wrong...it's gonna be a "hallelujah minute"!:rooster

And yet he still beats McCain in the polls.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
And yet you are gullible enough, especially at your age, to actually believe polls! I remember the polls that had Algore ahead in 2000 and Kerry ahead in 2004 ......yep...I surely do!:mw :sheep

Trueblue
04-29-2008, 05:18 PM
You're older than I, Wabby, and yet you alternate between believing and disbelieving in polls as suits your views. :rofl

Now, please show a link that says that Obama had bodyguards provided by the nation of Islam.

If you can't provide the link, you have to vote for Obama.

Twice.

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 05:19 PM
Louis Farrakhan's boys were the body guards at the Press Club meeting.

Please provide evidence.

Trueblue
04-29-2008, 05:19 PM
Of course I don't!! I'm not a Crystal Baller! All I'm saying here is that Obie's campaign has been seriously damaged and Obie isn't helping with lame ass explanations....thus, Hillary has vicariously gained momentum! Simple as that! No prediction just info............:dancer

Yes, and Crystal is grateful. :snicker

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 05:22 PM
Nice!!!!

Yellowdogtexan
04-29-2008, 06:10 PM
Do you know who the body guards are at the Press Conferrence? They are from the Nation of Islam!Given your feeble grasp of reality, it is important to figure what you are talking about. I expect that as is normal for you, you are WRONG and confused. There was a press conference today with Senator Obama and there were no body guards there other than secret service. No doubt one of the freeper sites where you get your misinformation may have speculated that Rev. Wright may have had body guards at the press club presentation that he attended. These are two separate event but to a confused and ignorant person, they may seem to be the same.

Again, which event are you talking about? Today's press conference is up on youtube and the only body guard types that I could see were secret service types. If you are talking about yesterday press club event, then you may want to accurately describe it (words do have a meanings here in the real world).

Anyway, I found the reaction of the conservatives here to be silly but amusing (wabby is always good for a laugh). You do know that Senator Obama has been picking up super delegates every day this week including today after Rev. Wright's appearances.

This so-called scandal does not matter except to ignorant fools/bigots and people who are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq. Senator Obama is going to win without the votes of these bigots and fools.

AYFR
04-29-2008, 06:32 PM
Again, your silliness is so amusing. You really do not understand much about politics. Again, the DNC has far more on Hagee and another bigot who claims to be mcsame's spritual advisor and these statements are as bad as anything that Rev. Wright said. Since mclame has gone on record as saying that this is okay to use guilt by association, then the DNC will be glad to play this game.
Really, prove it

As for wright, his recent speechs actually are helping Senator Obama. It is becoming clear that Senator Obama is not that close to Rev. Wright and Rev. Wright is more concerned about himself than Senator Obama. Again, only idiots and people who are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq would be dumb enough to buy these attacks. Senator Obama would never get the votes of bigots and fools who are stupid enough to believe that there are WMDs in Iraq in any case. Luckily these fools are a small part of the voting population
It will end up hurting him and you are blind if you do not see that.
So...you are not ready to say that Obama will lose the nomination. Does that mean that you are predicting that he will win the nomination?
Obama will win the nom but this will hurt during the general.

Lone Laugher
04-29-2008, 06:56 PM
Where is the evidence Wabby?

Yellowdogtexan
04-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Where is the evidence Wabby?You are kidding. You do not really expect wabby to back up one of his silly claims with proof do you? That would mean that his claims are based on some reality and wabby does not live in the real world and does not like facts or reality.

Yellowdogtexan
04-30-2008, 05:24 PM
So far the polling is not showing any adverse affect due to the Wright mess. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_gains_in_network_polls.html#commentsContra the previous item, two other polls are showing the Wright flap doesn't seem to be doing major damage head-to-head national polling.

Quite the opposite:

Two network polls due out in the next hour or so, I'm told, actually have him moving up against Clinton.

He's moved ahead out of a tie in the last NBC poll, and gained in the CBS/NYT poll. Details on the evening news.

Gallup, meanwhile, has had the race -- and national numbers, to be fair, have no real consequences at this point -- tied for a week.It may well be that this issue only matters to fools, bigots and idiots who are so stupid that they think that there still are wmds in Iraq. Senator Obama can win without the support of such voters.

AYFR
04-30-2008, 05:33 PM
Really
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08dem.htm

The Gallup poll shows him slipping

These even show him slipping

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

Lone Laugher
04-30-2008, 05:42 PM
Rev,,,,you sure do like to cherry-pick the polls. Compare the gallup for January with the one for today and then tell me who is slipping.

You simply ignored all the other polls that were cited.

AYFR
04-30-2008, 07:12 PM
I am talking about recently Obama is slipping. I never said he would not win. I just said that this is affecting him. Since Wright's re-emergence is has affected the polls.

I am being specific about now and a couple of weeks ago.

AYFR
04-30-2008, 07:15 PM
Obama slipped from 50% on 4/21 to 46% on 4/29

Trueblue
04-30-2008, 07:32 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

jim
04-30-2008, 07:37 PM
This is a very small point - But ain't that what people in this country do worry about??? They should be saving their energy for things that are going to require some real thought:hotdog:brr

AYFR
04-30-2008, 08:47 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html

I was talking about him slipping against Hillary.

Saguaro
04-30-2008, 09:23 PM
Rev, I understand what you mean , but to those who have already made up their minds to vote for Obama this ( Wright) will not change their vote

AYFR
04-30-2008, 09:29 PM
That's fine it is the multitudes that haven't, that I am talking about

Saguaro
04-30-2008, 09:31 PM
We have many months left, we shall see what happens

Trueblue
05-01-2008, 05:54 AM
The Swiftboats sail again.

AYFR
05-01-2008, 06:31 AM
Not swiftboating if it is true and it is.

I love how Democrats act so high and mighty like they don't ever do this kind of stuff.
It must be that do as I say not as I do thing.

Trueblue
05-01-2008, 06:36 AM
Not swiftboating if it is true and it is.

I love how Democrats act so high and mighty like they don't ever do this kind of stuff.
It must be that do as I say not as I do thing.

Actually, it is still swiftboating, because it distorts the issue.

Publicans are far more likely to do this kind of attack, Rev. That's recent historical reality.

Ringo
05-01-2008, 07:57 AM
Not swiftboating if it is true and it is.

I love how Democrats act so high and mighty like they don't ever do this kind of stuff.
It must be that do as I say not as I do thing.

NOPE, and neither was the FIRST one as John Kerry was and is in the best Liberal-Socialist Traditoon a fucking LIAR adn a Traitor!! TB is just repeating what her Media Matters or DNC coach told the cheerleaders to say, its the traditional * WE LIBERALS are BEING FUCKED OVER BY THE TRUTH* and we do HATE it so thus we WHINE!!!

Obama is an Idiot, a Muslim Lover and supporter of TERRORISTS both IN & OUT of Country@!!!:tb:devil:mw:akbar:godzilla:godzilla:go dzilla

AYFR
05-01-2008, 12:04 PM
Actually, it is still swiftboating, because it distorts the issue.
Bullshit, the issue he was a member of that church for twenty years and calls wright his spiritual advisor and respected friend.


Publicans are far more likely to do this kind of attack, Rev. That's recent historical reality.
Again bullshit.
I seem to recall the Dem's using Bush's prior alcoholism. McCain's age, his use of the term gook, the 100 years, that he wanted to be a democrat and more.

Reps are only good at it because they learned from the best DEMOCRATS

Wabash
05-01-2008, 12:14 PM
This is a very small point - But ain't that what people in this country do worry about??? They should be saving their energy for things that are going to require some real thought:hotdog:brr
I agree! Defeating liberal Democraps is the major hurdle!

Rev, I understand what you mean , but to those who have already made up their minds to vote for Obama this ( Wright) will not change their vote
No matter how bad it looks for Obie...you will trudge ahead and vote for him anyway. Now THAT is conviction against All odds!

:LL

Wabash
05-01-2008, 12:27 PM
The Swiftboats sail again.
This is your impression of the little kid with her fingers in her ears and screaming loudly!! Ok Lucy....Charlie Brown has your number!
In reality TB...the Democraps started the swiftboating years ago, the Pubs learned it from them and the Pubs perfected it!

Not swiftboating if it is true and it is.

I love how Democrats act so high and mighty like they don't ever do this kind of stuff.
It must be that do as I say not as I do thing.
Always!

Actually, it is still swiftboating, because it distorts the issue.

Publicans are far more likely to do this kind of attack, Rev. That's recent historical reality.
BS Plus from TB!

NOPE, and neither was the FIRST one as John Kerry was and is in the best Liberal-Socialist Traditoon a fucking LIAR adn a Traitor!! TB is just repeating what her Media Matters or DNC coach told the cheerleaders to say, its the traditional * WE LIBERALS are BEING FUCKED OVER BY THE TRUTH* and we do HATE it so thus we WHINE!!!

Obama is an Idiot, a Muslim Lover and supporter of TERRORISTS both IN & OUT of Country@!!!:tb:devil:mw:akbar:godzilla:godzilla:go dzilla
YEP!!!!
Bullshit, the issue he was a member of that church for twenty years and calls wright his spiritual advisor and respected friend.


Again bullshit.
I seem to recall the Dem's using Bush's prior alcoholism. McCain's age, his use of the term gook, the 100 years, that he wanted to be a democrat and more.

Reps are only good at it because they learned from the best DEMOCRATS
You forgot Thompson's Trophy wife as thou that was germane to the equation of his Presidential bid!!

Wabash
05-01-2008, 12:29 PM
Obie's lead has dwindled significantly and that is a GOOD thing!

I started this thread and I approve this message!

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 12:36 PM
And yet the American public is more concerned with mcsame's close ties to bush and mclames' desire to continued bush's failed policies for a third bush term. The generic ballot question has a huge margin between the Democrats and Repubicans right now for good reason.

Senator Obama will be the Democratic nominee and will have no trouble defeating a candidate as old, senile and weak as mclame.

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 12:39 PM
Again bullshit.
I seem to recall the Dem's using Bush's prior alcoholism. McCain's age, his use of the term gook, the 100 years, that he wanted to be a democrat and more.The DNC does not have to bring up mccain's extreme age because the American voters are already focusing on it. It was the conseravtives who accused mclame of being a democrat and not the Democrats. The 100 years in Iraq was an accurate quote and it is appropriate to use that quote. I note that over the RNC's strong objections, even Faux News is showing the DNC's 100 year ad.

Wabash
05-01-2008, 12:53 PM
And yet the American public is more concerned with mcsame's close ties to bush and mclames' desire to continued bush's failed policies for a third bush term. The generic ballot question has a huge margin between the Democrats and Repubicans right now for good reason.

Senator Obama will be the Democratic nominee and will have no trouble defeating a candidate as old, senile and weak as mclame.

Not so fast Buster!
There are hundreds of angry Florida delegates promising to go to Denver and disrupt the convention! Rioting as it were! There is a HUGE grievance! Take it to Denver, come from all over the country...Do it BIG!:rooster

The more you talk, the more amusing you are!

Wabash
05-01-2008, 01:03 PM
ABC radio news. 1 min. ago:

"Rev. Wright has become a real political headache for the Obama campaign."

"Obama has lost 18 % points since February."

I'm Lovin It!!!

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 01:31 PM
Not so fast Buster!
There are hundreds of angry Florida delegates promising to go to Denver and disrupt the convention! You are so clueless that you are funny. The "Florida delegates" who staged a protest yesterday in DC were clinton supporters (including supporters wearing other candidates shirts). Once the nomination is settled, a deal will be cut to seat both the Florida and Michigan delegations. However, Clinton's efforts to steal these delegations will not be allowed and fake protests like yesterdays will only fool idiots, fools, rush listeners and idiots are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq.

Wabash
05-01-2008, 01:40 PM
You are so clueless that you are funny. The "Florida delegates" who staged a protest yesterday in DC were clinton supporters (including supporters wearing other candidates shirts). Once the nomination is settled, a deal will be cut to seat both the Florida and Michigan delegations. However, Clinton's efforts to steal these delegations will not be allowed and fake protests like yesterdays will only fool idiots, fools, rush listeners and idiots are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq.
Au Contraire doggie....even Rosann Barr was on TV...calling for this protest...not that I'm a fan of that twit...but it's very funny....the Demo Party is in disarray and a brokered convention is certainly possible! You can keep spinning all you want doggie...but things are going sideways for Obie and the Dems in general...

AYFR
05-01-2008, 01:45 PM
The DNC does not have to bring up mccain's extreme age because the American voters are already focusing on it. It was the conseravtives who accused mclame of being a democrat and not the Democrats. The 100 years in Iraq was an accurate quote and it is appropriate to use that quote. I note that over the RNC's strong objections, even Faux News is showing the DNC's 100 year ad.
The RNC is not bringing up Reverend Wright, the media is. The same media that brought up that age issue.
The 100 years WAS taken out of context, you use it like he wants war fo the next 100 years when he was clearly talking about having a base there.-
Fox News has to play it because of the equal air time.

Wabash
05-01-2008, 01:47 PM
A SIMPLE COMPARISON!

"FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY; TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED."
K. Marx

"FROM YOU TO EVERYONE ELSE AS WE DECIDE THERE IS A NEED."
H. Clinton

Get Ready! They're coming soon.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x77/watermelon039/Hillarygesturing.jpg

issac the dragon
05-01-2008, 02:44 PM
You are so clueless that you are funny. The "Florida delegates" who staged a protest yesterday in DC were clinton supporters (including supporters wearing other candidates shirts). Once the nomination is settled, a deal will be cut to seat both the Florida and Michigan delegations. However, Clinton's efforts to steal these delegations will not be allowed and fake protests like yesterdays will only fool idiots, fools, rush listeners and idiots are so stupid that they believe that there are still WMDs in Iraq.

Hillary Clinton won those delegates fair and square. I don't care about the petty policies of the Democratic party. I do care that they are trying to do the same thing the Republicans did. Denying the votes of Democratic voters. That is so unbelievable. If the table was turned, the Obama supporters would be screaming and accusing everyone in sight of racism. Hillary Clinton has a majority of delegates. And Obama supporters are determined she isn't going to get the nomination.

Wabash
05-01-2008, 02:57 PM
Hillary Clinton won those delegates fair and square. I don't care about the petty policies of the Democratic party. I do care that they are trying to do the same thing the Republicans did. Denying the votes of Democratic voters. That is so unbelievable. If the table was turned, the Obama supporters would be screaming and accusing everyone in sight of racism. Hillary Clinton has a majority of delegates. And Obama supporters are determined she isn't going to get the nomination.

That's why they need a brokered convention in Denver!

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 03:05 PM
The RNC is not bringing up Reverend Wright, the media is. You are kidding? It is the North Carolina RNC who is running an ad on Wright that mccain pretended to object to http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=19203&highlight=mccain+north+carolinaMccain tried to have his cake and eat it to by pretending to protest about this ad but never even calling the NC RNC about the ad. Of course the republicans are pushing the wright story. Just look at o'leilly last night with Senator Clinton

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 03:06 PM
That's why they need a brokered convention in Denver!Dream on. That is not going to happen. The race will be over on or before June 3. A key Clinton supporter jumped ship today and he was only the first. There is no way that this fight goes beyond June

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 03:10 PM
Hillary Clinton won those delegates fair and square. I don't care about the petty policies of the Democratic party. You know that they have video of her agreeing to not to campaign in Florida or Michigan and agreeing that the results of such primaries would not count. Florida and Michigan violated DNC rules and that is why the primaries simply do not count. Clinton is trying to change the rules and if she goes too far Obama or the media will start playing the video of her stating that she agreed that these primaries do not count. The only reason that this has not been done is that it is clear that the Florida and Michigan delegations will be seated after it is determined who will be the nominee.

Wabash
05-01-2008, 03:23 PM
Dream on. That is not going to happen. The race will be over on or before June 3. A key Clinton supporter jumped ship today and he was only the first. There is no way that this fight goes beyond June

Oh I will dream on doggie...to a day when Obie and Hillary lose because of infighting and McCain comes out the winner by default!:LL

I've dated and time stamped your prediction...now we will see if you are even close...

issac the dragon
05-01-2008, 03:27 PM
I don't like agreeing with you on this, but I have to. I am not going to accept not counting those votes. I am not a Democrat for a reason. Because they keep doing such stupid things. This will not be the first election they have blown because of their stupidity. They have painted themselves into a corner and now, no matter what they do, it will blow the election.

I am willing to compromise. Nominate Edwards. Screw Obama and Clinton.

Lone Laugher
05-01-2008, 03:49 PM
Isn't time we all start getting along? There are probably some steps that can be taken to ease the shock that some will have when we elect a half black man for President.

I can think of some therapies:

The next time you meet a black man or woman....try as hard as you can to think of the person first as a fellow human being. Imagine that he or she has many of the same needs, concerns and desires as you...and that the blood that runs in his or her veins is the same color (and possibly the same type ) as your own.

The next time you feel the urge to say something like "I have friends that are black" or " I even dated a black person"...stop...and consider that there are very few black people who have not heard these phrases hundreds of times already...they have no meaning.

Ask yourself the following questions:

Is it possible...or even probable..that there are thousands or even hundreds of thousands of black American citizens that are as intelligent as me? That are as responsible as me? That work as hard as me? That are as honest as me? That are just as important as me?

Are there thousands or even hundreds of thousands or even millions of black Americans that have fought for this country...helped build this country...helped elevate this country?

Get over it folks....Barack Obama is going to make a great POTUS.

issac the dragon
05-01-2008, 04:00 PM
I wondered just how long it would take before someone would suggest I was a racist. Because it all comes down to that for his supporters. If I don't see how wonderful he is, if I don't think he is charming, if I don't think he is experienced enough to be POTUS, I must be racist. I am not, and I will not tolerate the accusation. There are many people who don't like the man. Period.

Funny, you don't accuse me of sexism because I don't like Clinton. You think that is just fine. I shouldn't like her.

The shepherds did not gather when Obama was born. The angels did not sing. He is not the second coming. And I do not believe he will ever be POTUS. McCain will.

Trueblue
05-01-2008, 04:05 PM
Bullshit, the issue he was a member of that church for twenty years and calls wright his spiritual advisor and respected friend.


Again bullshit.
I seem to recall the Dem's using Bush's prior alcoholism. McCain's age, his use of the term gook, the 100 years, that he wanted to be a democrat and more.

Reps are only good at it because they learned from the best DEMOCRATS

It's still swiftboating, Rev. The issue is being blown up beyond its significance for political purposes.

Au Contraire doggie....even Rosann Barr was on TV...calling for this protest...not that I'm a fan of that twit...but it's very funny....the Demo Party is in disarray and a brokered convention is certainly possible! You can keep spinning all you want doggie...but things are going sideways for Obie and the Dems in general...

Be patient, wait till the public sees Mc:cane in a debate. :D

And who gives a crap about Roseanne Barr's political decisions? :rofl

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 04:22 PM
I don't like agreeing with you on this, but I have to. I do not mind you disagreeing. Please understand that the Obama campaign has not played nasty here so as to keep the party unified but there is good video of Senator Clinton agreeing that she would not participate in these primaries and that the results of these primaries would not count for any reason. Those were the rules she agreed to until she got behind in delegates and decided that her prior promise could be ignored. The DNC rules are clear here.

Once things clear and we know who the nominee is, there will be a deal reached to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations at the convention in August. This contest is going to be over one way or another in June and there will be no brokered convention. One major Clinton superdelegates jumped ship today and there are rumors that the rest of the super delegates are ready to jump in and end this fight before the end of June. That is actually what the super-delegqates are supposed to do and these super delegates will not allow this go on pass June. In addition a large number of Clinton large fundraisers are making contributions to the Obama campaign and money does carry some weight in the party.

When this happens, a deal will be cut on Michigan and Florida and these states will have delegates to the DNC in Denver.

Yellowdogtexan
05-01-2008, 04:26 PM
I've dated and time stamped your prediction...now we will see if you are even close...That will be rich given that you have trouble remembering things from one day to another. I still love the fact that you insisted on the concept that the UN Security Council approved the US invasion of Iraq and refused to back down because you remember seeing something on TV. Of course, you were wrong here as you are almost always wrong. The one thing that is right about you is that you are always wrong.

Just to have fun, here is a generic poll number that I like. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/01/969088.aspx
Earlier today, we mentioned some numbers from the latest NBC/WSJ poll pointing to a difficult political environment for the GOP heading into November. We should also have mentioned this figure: Democrats hold a 15-point advantage (49%-34%) over Republicans in a generic congressional ballot test.

That is virtually unchanged from March's poll, when respondents picked a generic Democratic candidate over a generic Republican, 49%-34%. A 15% spread on this standard polling question is not good news for mccain. Once the Democrats have their offiical candidate, then they will have fun here.

Lone Laugher
05-01-2008, 04:30 PM
Watch out YDT...when he begins to feel like a loser...he'll ignore you. It is a fate worse than death.

AYFR
05-01-2008, 05:59 PM
Isn't time we all start getting along? There are probably some steps that can be taken to ease the shock that some will have when we elect a half black man for President.

I can think of some therapies:

The next time you meet a black man or woman....try as hard as you can to think of the person first as a fellow human being. Imagine that he or she has many of the same needs, concerns and desires as you...and that the blood that runs in his or her veins is the same color (and possibly the same type ) as your own.

The next time you feel the urge to say something like "I have friends that are black" or " I even dated a black person"...stop...and consider that there are very few black people who have not heard these phrases hundreds of times already...they have no meaning.

Ask yourself the following questions:

Is it possible...or even probable..that there are thousands or even hundreds of thousands of black American citizens that are as intelligent as me? That are as responsible as me? That work as hard as me? That are as honest as me? That are just as important as me?

Are there thousands or even hundreds of thousands or even millions of black Americans that have fought for this country...helped build this country...helped elevate this country?

Get over it folks....Barack Obama is going to make a great POTUS.
This whole post makes absolutely no sense due to that no one here has said anything sexist or racist.


Really eloquently written and I agree that that is what we need to do but it really needs to be a thread of its own because it does not fit here.

As for Obama being a great president. Since McCain is going to win I quess that we will have to wait till another election to find out :D :wink

You are kidding? It is the North Carolina RNC who is running an ad on Wright that mccain pretended to object to http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=19203&highlight=mccain+north+carolinaMccain tried to have his cake and eat it to by pretending to protest about this ad but never even calling the NC RNC about the ad. Of course the republicans are pushing the wright story. Just look at o'leilly last night with Senator Clinton
The RNC did not bring out the Wright issue the Media did, the RNC just ran with it because it is an issue. They are smart to run with it because it show the kind of judgement Obama has or rather doesn't have.

Point is that when it comes to things like this the DNC is just as slimey, if not more so, then the RNC

Wabash
05-01-2008, 06:17 PM
I wondered just how long it would take before someone would suggest I was a racist. Because it all comes down to that for his supporters. If I don't see how wonderful he is, if I don't think he is charming, if I don't think he is experienced enough to be POTUS, I must be racist. I am not, and I will not tolerate the accusation. There are many people who don't like the man. Period.

Funny, you don't accuse me of sexism because I don't like Clinton. You think that is just fine. I shouldn't like her.

The shepherds did not gather when Obama was born. The angels did not sing. He is not the second coming. And I do not believe he will ever be POTUS. McCain will.
Excellent post issac!!!!:paclap:paclap:paclap

It's still swiftboating, Rev. The issue is being blown up beyond its significance for political purposes.
And rightly so!...Obie was a dumbass for sticking with and defending Wright! Now it's come back to bite him in the ass!


Be patient, wait till the public sees Mc:cane in a debate. :D

And who gives a crap about Roseanne Barr's political decisions? :rofl
Everyone has followers TB and some will listen to her...I never would, she is a candidate for a cream pie!:LL

This whole post makes absolutely no sense due to that no one here has said anything sexist or racist.


Really eloquently written and I agree that that is what we need to do but it really needs to be a thread of its own because it does not fit here.

As for Obama being a great president. Since McCain is going to win I quess that we will have to wait till another election to find out :D :wink


The RNC did not bring out the Wright issue the Media did, the RNC just ran with it because it is an issue. They are smart to run with it because it show the kind of judgement Obama has or rather doesn't have.

Point is that when it comes to things like this the DNC is just as slimey, if not more so, then the RNC
Well stated!!!:paclap:paclap

Wabash
05-01-2008, 06:21 PM
That will be rich given that you have trouble remembering things from one day to another. I still love the fact that you insisted on the concept that the UN Security Council approved the US invasion of Iraq and refused to back down because you remember seeing something on TV. Of course, you were wrong here as you are almost always wrong. The one thing that is right about you is that you are always wrong.

Just to have fun, here is a generic poll number that I like. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/01/969088.aspxA 15% spread on this standard polling question is not good news for mccain. Once the Democrats have their offiical candidate, then they will have fun here.

True on some of that...I can't tell you what I commented on this morning. But I do retain a lot more than you think and I will certainly remember this one, because I wrote it on the reminder board, just in case I get to laugh at you in July! Your bias is sooooo pervasive, it seems to cloud your good sense...that's provided you have any!
Oh btw, I've been right about many things here, but you like to white wash everything with a broad brush and everyone knows it...so you aren't fooling anyone!

Lone Laugher
05-01-2008, 06:48 PM
Waaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaa YDT and LL never give me any credit for being right or posting good stuff!!! Waaaaaaa.

Electra
05-01-2008, 08:01 PM
If you live in Indiana or North Carolina, I urge you to get out and vote for Hillary next week!!!

Hillary's great in 2008!

Is there a thread about the O'Reilly's interviews?

Guess I can check out the site and see.