Bad days are coming folks

[Wabash]

http://www.local6.com/news/15572104/detail.html

Stuff like this is the window to the future.....
It will be over gasoline and diesel soon and thefts of same from your home, business or while shopping.....the have nots, will not work, they will steal, rob or waylay you.....coming soon to a neighborhood near you...
They have already hit stations that are closed at night...stealing as much as 300 plus gallons at a crack...

[patriotsblade]

What do you mean coming soon Wabby? Random acts of violence have been a part of American society (and many others) for a very long time now.

[nixon]

http://www.local6.com/news/15572104/detail.html

Stuff like this is the window to the future.....
It will be over gasoline and diesel soon and thefts of same from your home, business or while shopping.....the have nots, will not work, they will steal, rob or waylay you.....coming soon to a neighborhood near you...
They have already hit stations that are closed at night...stealing as much as 300 plus gallons at a crack...How about the ones that will work, but can't find employment? The ones that have a family to feed and medicine to buy for a sick loved one. Poverty doesn't bring out the good in people. It never did and never will, but who gives a rat's ass about the issues at home, were fighting a war that is costing 12 billion a month. One billion=a thousand millions. Times twelve. Every month. God help us.

[toxic]

What do you mean coming soon Wabby? Random acts of violence have been a part of American society (and many others) for a very long time now.

Too bad you never lived in America in your adult life.

My whitey morgage was 11.5% interest and for a house that was built by carpenters, plumbers and brick masons. My original neighborhood was composed of good hardworking people, that put much of what they earned into their home and neighborhood.

After Bush arranged for 3% morgage interest for homes built by unskilled illegals. He helped scum move into the suburbs where they don't even feel obligated to make their house payment, much less maintain the place.

Crime is way up. I have had a concealed handgun license for 15 years, but only had to draw my gun twice. Both times in the last year. I'm sure it was unreasonable of me to worry when I saw a black guy point a gun at my wife who was three cars in front of me at a signal.

I'm sure you can see how this is affecting America when you stare into the herds of blond haired, blue eyed girls in Norway. Thanks for lecturing us and reationalizing from several thousand miles away when we are trying to save our neighborhoods and America.

[patriotsblade]

Too bad you never lived in America in your adult life.

My whitey morgage was 11.5% interest and for a house that was built by carpenters, plumbers and brick masons. My original neighborhood was composed of good hardworking people, that put much of what they earned into their home and neighborhood.

After Bush arranged for 3% morgage interest for homes built by unskilled illegals. He helped scum move into the suburbs where they don't even feel obligated to make their house payment, much less maintain the place.

Crime is way up. I have had a concealed handgun license for 15 years, but only had to draw my gun twice. Both times in the last year. I'm sure it was unreasonable of me to worry when I saw a black guy point a gun at my wife who was three cars in front of me at a signal.

I'm sure you can see how this is affecting America when you stare into the herds of blond haired, blue eyed girls in Norway. Thanks for lecturing us and reationalizing from several thousand miles away when we are trying to save our neighborhoods and America.

1. I've spent 31 of my 35 years in America Toxic. (aside from my military deployments)

2. Norway doesn't really have as many blondes as you would think, many more of them in Sweden actually. When you take a look around here in Norway Toxic you see all kinds of people. There's lots of immigrants here.

3. Stay classy. :thumbsup

[toxic]

When Whites are a minority in Norway, like in TX, AZ, NM and CA, tell me.

[BartonX]

How about the ones that will work, but can't find employment? The ones that have a family to feed and medicine to buy for a sick loved one. Poverty doesn't bring out the good in people. It never did and never will, but who gives a rat's ass about the issues at home, were fighting a war that is costing 12 billion a month. One billion=a thousand millions. Times twelve. Every month. God help us.

Are you saying we were wrong not to have nuked both Mecca and Medina and about 22 other Islamic states so it would be more cost affective to deal with our problem???

[Wabash]

What do you mean coming soon Wabby? Random acts of violence have been a part of American society (and many others) for a very long time now.
Not so random any longer blade.....more like daily, even in Canada.......

How about the ones that will work, but can't find employment? The ones that have a family to feed and medicine to buy for a sick loved one. Poverty doesn't bring out the good in people. It never did and never will, but who gives a rat's ass about the issues at home, were fighting a war that is costing 12 billion a month. One billion=a thousand millions. Times twelve. Every month. God help us.
Poverty does not bring out the good in people...you are right about that.....so, I will include them in my initial post. Thanks for reminding me....
One thing some of you keep forgetting and that's how much stimulus is given our economy from the war...Jobs are filled, many more created, products are sold for the war effort and the peace effort as well.
Out of work in your area? Move to another area, thousands ...no millions have done it for the last 230 years! Go to work at a munitions plant, a shipyard, an aircraft plant, other mgf. plants that still are operating here. Hell, join the military...those guys don't starve and they have pretty good medical for those loved ones. Lots of options other than moaning and groaning about a situation...anyone can bitch and moan, smart guys and gals take positive action to change their situation.....N.O. residents need not apply!

[Wabash]

Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:00pm EDT

By David Ljunggren

QUEBEC CITY, Quebec (Reuters) - Although Canada is one of the snowiest countries in the world, a series of violent "snow rage" incidents reveal that even the locals have their limits.

Police in the French-speaking province of Quebec said on Wednesday that people were fighting over snow clearing and even parking spaces.

Recent Canadian winters have been mild but this one looks set to break all-time records for snow. One storm last weekend dumped 23 inches on the capital Ottawa and 19 inches on Quebec City, which has already received 210 inches this year.

Quebec City police said they had been called to a dozen violent disputes about snow from one property ending up on someone else's. The drifts outside some houses are 12 feet and higher.

Last Sunday, a man in an upscale Quebec City neighborhood became so upset a woman from a snow removal service was putting snow on his yard that he shouted at her and then took a shovel and hit the window of the vehicle she was driving.

"The woman apologized and returned to work ... a bit later the man opened his garage door and emerged with a shotgun, pointed it at the ground and looked at her in a threatening way," said police spokeswoman Catherine Viel.

Police arrested the man, who will be charged with negligent use of a firearm, and seized a total of 13 weapons from his home. Viel said snow-related fights were unusually common.

"It's happened particularly often this year ... you have to be used to snow if you live in Quebec but it's been a bit extreme this year. People are fed up," she said.

In Montreal, police said a man had produced a toy gun during a heated dispute Sunday between two drivers over a rare parking space. He may face weapons charges.

There may be more trouble to come, since Environment Canada says there is no sign winter is about to end. Snow fell again on Quebec City and Ottawa Wednesday.

Montreal is also having problems disposing of the snow. One massive mound is around 80-feet high and officials told reporters that unless steps were taken to dismantle the pile, much of it would still be there when next winter started.
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSGOR25761920080312?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews&rpc=22&sp=true

[Wabash]

By KEVIN DEUTSCH, GRETEL SARMIENTO and LONA O'CONNOR

Palm Beach Post Staff Writers

Wednesday, March 12, 2008

BOCA RATON — A crowd of more than 500 people waiting for hours this morning for housing voucher applications were dispersed by police in riot gear at the Boca Raton Housing Authority when the applications ran out sooner than expected.

The action prompted complaints that officers used excessive tactics and housing authority officials were incompetent in their planning.

What are these?

Two people were arrested and six to eight people hospitalized for exhaustion during the ordeal.

Hundreds of people, mostly mothers who had spent more than eight hours in line, were forced to leave the property at 2333 W. Glades Road by 30 Boca Raton Police officers, including SWAT team members, who walked toward the crowd in unison holding their police shields up about 10:30 a.m.

"Leave or face arrest," police officers shouted at the crowd as they urged them out of the housing authority parking lot. People were made to leave the vicinity altogether, with officers forcing them to cross the street and move toward their cars.

The overwhelming turnout of people desperate for housing money came as little surprise to Suzanne Cabrera, president of the Housing Leadership Council of Palm Beach County.

"This is an indication that housing it's still a huge problem," Cabrera said this afternoon. "It's a reflection of people's concern for housing, their uncertainty. I got people today asking me: was this my last chance to get housing I can afford?"

Several other things, such as mortgage foreclosures and high gas prices, are contributing to that feeling of insecurity and desperation, she said.

So whenever word gets out that voucher applications are being handed out, which she said doesn't happen very often, people get full of hope.

Judith Aigen, executive director of the city's housing authority, said once applicants meet the economic and background requirements, those who get a voucher technically must live within Boca Raton for one year, but housing agencies in Palm Beach County have a "hand-shake agreement" allowing people with vouchers to live anywhere in the county during that year.

A study the council conducted Jan. 29 shows the number of people needing housing is still pretty high.

"Housing is still as valid a concern as it was when we lived in different times," Cabrera said.

Police had been at the housing authority since about midnight, a few hours after people started lining up outside for Section 8 housing voucher applications.

Some people lay down blankets and pillows to camp out until 9 a.m., when the housing authority had advertised they would hand out applications.

The line was already hundreds deep, so police asked Aigen to come to the property.

"There were traffic issues, disabled people who couldn't breathe well, children standing in line," she said.

The agency, worried about the size of the crowd, decided about 2 a..m. to hand out about 500 applications and reserve a few for later.

"We didn't expect so many to show up," Aigen said. "We thought we had enough area to accommodate all the people. It was not a good judgment call. The neighborhood wasn't equipped."

But handing out the applications early did nothing to stem the flow of potential applicants.

By 10 a.m. the crowd had swelled to more than 500 people, with most unaware that the bulk of applications had already been passed out.

The parking lot was a mass of women nursing crying babies, pushing strollers and waiting anxiously for officials to give them information.

People grew agitated. Several fights broke out. Police and firefighters said they were prepared if things were to turn violent on a large scale. Nearly 50 firefighters and paramedics from the city, county and Delray Beach set up across the street in the Town Center mall parking lot.

Then an official came out of the housing authority building and announced through a megaphone that disabled people should come forward.

Instead, the entire crowd surged forward. People fell down and were close to being trampled, witnesses said.

"That's when all hell broke loose," said Shannon Pierce, 26, of Lake Worth. Pierce, who is six months pregnant and had been waiting in line since 6 a.m. "We almost got trampled over."

Authorities decided to shut things down.

Police told the crowd they had to leave. Angry and disappointed, many of those waiting stalked off.

Those who remained were soon dispersed by police in riot gear, many shouting and complaining.

"Frustration builds after you have been in line for hours," said Robert Nelligan, Boca Raton Fire Rescue division chief. "Then you are told 'no.' Emotions can take over."

Angelica Rivera, a 28-year-old mother of five who had been pleading with officers to let her drop off her housing application, refused their orders to leave the property. She was handcuffed and dragged off to a police van, charged with disorderly conduct, disobeying a lawful order and resisting without violence. A second person was booked on similar charges.

In general, however, the crowd broke up peacefully. Many people remained on the scene, but off of authority property.

"We think we handled it with restraint," said police spokeswoman Sandra Boonenberg. "We had good communication with the people, the crowd cooperated, and we avoided any negative issues. We were very pleased with the way it was done and that nobody get hurt."

"If we can control the situation by our presence, that is the best possible outcome."

Most of the crowd disagreed.

"We're all working people and we're all bitter right now," said Deborah Davis, 37. "To be turned away like this hurts."

People in the line said they came overnight, from as far away as Riviera Beach and Pahokee, to apply for the housing subsidy.

"I'm very angry," said Nora Jones, 55 from Lake Worth, who said she had been there since 5 a.m. "Very disappointed. It's so unorganized. They are asking everyone to leave."

Amanda Palmer, 23, waited in line for hours with her 3-month old daughter. Palmer is staying in a maternity home, from which she must move out by June.

"That's why I'm here. This is my first child," Palmer said. "We really need it."

Shayla Williams, 22, of West Palm Beach, was angered by the police tactics.

"This place is going to get shot up later," she yelled to officers. "They can't treat us like this."

[Ringo]

The LIBERAL Welfare State...how is that working out these days?? Gal has a kid, no support, and she demands that WE take care of her whoring ass, same for her MALE drughead burnout, who can't even hold a fucking dishwasher job!!!

That little BIG MOUTH Williams might wanta rethink her mOUTH, talking to SWAT officers like that, unless her Gangsta boyfriend is real bad!!!:akbar:godzilla

[Deadshot]

Ringo, welfare is applied for on behalf of the child, not the mother.

If the mother doesn't have a child, or as in your example, a drugged up man, were to apply for assistance, they wouldn't receive any. After your unemployment runs out, you are pretty much in trouble. Unless you can prove a valid disability, you will receive next to nothing from Uncle Sam after your Unemployment insurance disappears.

But back to the Welfare thing, we - the United States of America - will not damn a child just because their parents are fuck ups. We will seek to help that child and the parent(s) in the hopes that that child makes something of thier life.

So much for compassionate, or intelligent, Conservatism.:sparks2

[issac the dragon]

Even they know compassionate conservative is an oxymoron.

[Wabash]

Ringo, welfare is applied for on behalf of the child, not the mother.

If the mother doesn't have a child, or as in your example, a drugged up man, were to apply for assistance, they wouldn't receive any. After your unemployment runs out, you are pretty much in trouble. Unless you can prove a valid disability, you will receive next to nothing from Uncle Sam after your Unemployment insurance disappears.

But back to the Welfare thing, we - the United States of America - will not damn a child just because their parents are fuck ups. We will seek to help that child and the parent(s) in the hopes that that child makes something of thier life.

So much for compassionate, or intelligent, Conservatism.:sparks2
Best thing in most cases would be to save the child and exterminate the parents....that's compassion! Compassion for our fellow Americans that don't want to put up with the bullshit of low life scumbags like the aforementioned Mom and Dad! Why the Fuck Should we?????:soapbox

[Wabash]

Even they know compassionate conservative is an oxymoron.

It's very applicable where warranted.....but it should not be a blank check! And that's EXACTLY what liberals want it to be!:wink

[Ringo]

Too bad you never lived in America in your adult life.

My whitey morgage was 11.5% interest and for a house that was built by carpenters, plumbers and brick masons. My original neighborhood was composed of good hardworking people, that put much of what they earned into their home and neighborhood.

After Bush arranged for 3% morgage interest for homes built by unskilled illegals. He helped scum move into the suburbs where they don't even feel obligated to make their house payment, much less maintain the place.

Crime is way up. I have had a concealed handgun license for 15 years, but only had to draw my gun twice. Both times in the last year. I'm sure it was unreasonable of me to worry when I saw a black guy point a gun at my wife who was three cars in front of me at a signal.

I'm sure you can see how this is affecting America when you stare into the herds of blond haired, blue eyed girls in Norway. Thanks for lecturing us and reationalizing from several thousand miles away when we are trying to save our neighborhoods and America.

I carry, and I have for years and I also carry a a little chrome plated sawed off 12 Guage, in case i need a *pattern* shot, if ya get my drift!! Calamity carriesa Glock and is pretty good as she is also into that Quick Draw stuff, so we are OK when we travel!!

[patriotsblade]

Best thing in most cases would be to save the child and exterminate the parents....that's compassion! Compassion for our fellow Americans that don't want to put up with the bullshit of low life scumbags like the aforementioned Mom and Dad! Why the Fuck Should we?????:soapbox

You know there was a guy about 70 years ago that had the idea of 'exterminating' those people he deemed undesirable.

[toxic]

You know there was a guy about 70 years ago that had the idea of 'exterminating' those people he deemed undesirable.

Yes, also in ancient times, soldiers defeated their enemy, threw all the men and children off a cliff and redistributed the women amongst the troops to start a new generation.

The winners are always the heros and the losers are always the bad guys.

That is because the "System" NEVER fails.
The GOOD guys are in power and the BAD guys in jail.
Rigggggggggght.

[jim]

Yes, also in ancient times, soldiers defeated their enemy, threw all the men and children off a cliff and redistributed the women amongst the troops to start a new generation.

The winners are always the heros and the losers are always the bad guys.

That is because the "System" NEVER fails.
The GOOD guys are in power and the BAD guys in jail.
Rigggggggggght.


Yeah: Sure!!!:LL:hotdog:devil

[jim]

Yes, also in ancient times, soldiers defeated their enemy, threw all the men and children off a cliff and redistributed the women amongst the troops to start a new generation.

The winners are always the heros and the losers are always the bad guys.

That is because the "System" NEVER fails.
The GOOD guys are in power and the BAD guys in jail.
Rigggggggggght.


Yeah: Sure!!!:LL:hotdog:devil

So Jean Cauvin, AKA, John Calvin said:mickey:deadshot

[nixon]

I carry, and I have for years and I also carry a a little chrome plated sawed off 12 Guage, in case i need a *pattern* shot, if ya get my drift!! Calamity carriesa Glock and is pretty good as she is also into that Quick Draw stuff, so we are OK when we travel!!Make sure that sawed off isn't a quarter inch too short like Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge fame.

[Wabash]

You know there was a guy about 70 years ago that had the idea of 'exterminating' those people he deemed undesirable.
Apples and oranges again blade...you are falling into the same pattern of fruit that TB falls into....
There is a vast difference between law abiding citizens targeted by a madman and the elimination of worthless pieces of human excrement that are obvious criminals and are breathing air that good people need. Buster, I've met plenty! If you really worked with SFPD like you claim, than you should have met them too! Those kind of people that bear children, often times give the child no future whatsoever.

Yes, also in ancient times, soldiers defeated their enemy, threw all the men and children off a cliff and redistributed the women amongst the troops to start a new generation.

The winners are always the heros and the losers are always the bad guys.

That is because the "System" NEVER fails.
The GOOD guys are in power and the BAD guys in jail.
Rigggggggggght.
Not always and your example has gone overboard....

Make sure that sawed off isn't a quarter inch too short like Randy Weaver of Ruby Ridge fame.
Nix...as part of your continuing education....let me say this.....it's not gonna matter one wit if that barrel is a 1/4 inch too short, because whenever the time comes that I have to use that particular piece, all hell has broken loose, cops will be non existent and the only law will be at the end of my shotgun barrel!

[Saguaro]

Ya know Wabash the west was won a century ago and cowboys use the internet to track cows

[Wabash]

Ya know Wabash the west was won a century ago and cowboys use the internet to track cows
Sag....with all due respect, you are not seeing the big picture. this has nothing to do with cowboys, cows or the internet...

[Wabash]

By the way, in some ways the West was never really won...we are much different out here than in the east and I'm really happy about that...
Parts of Ca. have gone to the dogs(read libs), but much of it is still God's country...Or. Wa. and the other 5 western states are even better....

Tell ya what Sag...Go see Doomsday...it might give you a glimpse of what is to come...

[patriotsblade]

Apples and oranges again blade...you are falling into the same pattern of fruit that TB falls into....
There is a vast difference between law abiding citizens targeted by a madman and the elimination of worthless pieces of human excrement that are obvious criminals and are breathing air that good people need. Buster, I've met plenty! If you really worked with SFPD like you claim, than you should have met them too! Those kind of people that bear children, often times give the child no future whatsoever.


I did see those sort of people Wabby, from the criminally insane to the habitual criminal to the just down and out desperate. Never did it cross my mind that any of them should be 'exterminated'. I do believe in the justice system and I do believe in the ultimate punishment for those who have committed the most heinous offences, but that is punishment for crimes, not extermination for being undesirable.

You have some alarm bells going off here Wabby.

Who gets to decide which people are 'worthless pieces of human excrement' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch) and which aren't?

Also, doesn't the traditional Republican/Conservative dogma dictate that all life is precious?

:pb

[Lone Laugher]

Some of you jokers are unbelievable. You are so scared of other people...always thinking about how you'll defend yourself with your guns...quickdraw? That is too funny.

Everything you guys do is dictated by fear.

[toxic]

Some of you jokers are unbelievable. You are so scared of other people...always thinking about how you'll defend yourself with your guns...quickdraw? That is too funny.

Everything you guys do is dictated by fear.


There is irrational hysterical fear and rational fear.


Tell me WTF you would have done in my situation.

I had a .357 revolver with a 6 inch barrel (S&W 686) that would have been fine for the shot, but there were cars and innocent bystanders everywhere.

I thought I was going to be there helpless as a guy 70 ft aways killed my wife.

The light changed and the cars started moving and the gun went back in the guys lap. He was in the back of an RAV4.

My wife turned right at the next corner and I stopped her. She saw the gun, didn't know what was up.

I called the police and they had nothing but excuses.

- It may have been a squirt gun. I SAID, SHOULDN'T WE FIND OUT???

- He is probably out of the city limits by now (which was about 3 miles on that road). I SAID, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THE ADJACENT CITY? WHAT DO YOU USUALLY DO? blah blah blah

Your life can change dramaticly in 1 second. Some people are more prepared than others.

We have been flooded by New Orleans refugees and Latin illegals. They are a bunch of fucking scum with no identity, address or people that would recognize them. When they commit a crime, they just move 30 miles down the road.

I saw an example on the news last night. A guy in a tractor-trailor killed a guy in a light truck. The guy driving the tractor-trailer just abandon his truck and ran. I'm sure they will never find him. His name will be fake, there won't be a valid SSN, he will just be another brown fact amongst the thousands of their type sanding on corners.

[jim]

Some of you jokers are unbelievable. You are so scared of other people...always thinking about how you'll defend yourself with your guns...quickdraw? That is too funny.

Everything you guys do is dictated by fear.


I'll use a gun as a last resort - But that is exactly what it will be. I cannot condone wanton killing of any human or even an animal: Nor can I condone deliberate murder of either...by anyone including the police - Of which I have known.:devil

[Wabash]

I did see those sort of people Wabby, from the criminally insane to the habitual criminal to the just down and out desperate. Never did it cross my mind that any of them should be 'exterminated'. I do believe in the justice system and I do believe in the ultimate punishment for those who have committed the most heinous offences, but that is punishment for crimes, not extermination for being undesirable.

You have some alarm bells going off here Wabby.

Who gets to decide which people are 'worthless pieces of human excrement' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch) and which aren't?

Also, doesn't the traditional Republican/Conservative dogma dictate that all life is precious?

:pb
I don't live by RCD blade...who says I have to! I live by what is right and wrong and don't tell me you never saw a guy or gal that didn't need killing!
Alarm bells? How about common sense! I really don't think you are getting the point, those examples you gave are not what I'm talking about!

Some of you jokers are unbelievable. You are so scared of other people...always thinking about how you'll defend yourself with your guns...quickdraw? That is too funny.

Everything you guys do is dictated by fear.
Well, being the ultra liberal that you are LL, it's obvious that you can't grasp it! Especially in Central Florida...Orlando has become a cesspool of crime and violence!
Fear is a Good thing LL and one needs to know how to cope with fear when it happens, not drop into a puddle of pee running down your leg.
Think of a gun just like your spare tire and jack, you may never need them, but it sure is good to know you have alternatives.
As Jim said , it's a last resort. That's what I teach, it's on the first page of my class lecture...

Your comments and others here, show you going off half cocked w/o understanding the point!

[patriotsblade]

I don't live by RCD blade...who says I have to! I live by what is right and wrong and don't tell me you never saw a guy or gal that didn't need killing!
Alarm bells? How about common sense! I really don't think you are getting the point, those examples you gave are not what I'm talking about!

You didn't answer my questions Wabby. Who should be 'exterminated'?

Who gets to make that decision?

[nixon]

You didn't answer my questions Wabby. Who should be 'exterminated'?

Who gets to make that decision?Wabs lives by what is right and wrong. Wabs, have you ever been right about something that was wrong to someone else?

[Wabash]

You didn't answer my questions Wabby. Who should be 'exterminated'?

Who gets to make that decision?
Many should...they are worthless pieces of excrement, but passing a law getting it done, will never happen. You may not believe this, but there are people that could give a shit if their kids lived or died, or anyone else for that matter. There are animals, known as humans who are heinous, raping, murdering , mutilating scum that would kill you or your wife for no particular reason at all. These folks are incorrigible and beyond rehab., a waste of humanity and taking up needless tax dollars for incarceration....that's the ones being confined...there are hundreds, maybe thousands more, on the streets, all around the world. You will defend their right to live, until you or a loved one are a victim....then...things suddenly seem different!

Wabs lives by what is right and wrong. Wabs, have you ever been right about something that was wrong to someone else?
Sure...almost every Democrat I meet is that way...no common sense whatsoever, just emotion! If it feels good, it's ok....
I'll rephrase that...common sense appears diminished, thus a diminished capacity to see the truth and the logic.

[Trueblue]

Apples and oranges again blade...you are falling into the same pattern of fruit that TB falls into....

Most of the time, you don't read what I say, Wabash, you and Ringo both make posts to what you think I mean instead of what I actually say and mean. You seem to believe that because people like PB and I don't go along with your ideas of extermination of certain groups, we think that everybody is nice and good. I don't, I live in the real world, and I've been here for a long time. I don't work in law enforcement, no. I do work in a poor community with a number of social problems like gang violence, domestic violence, child abuse, drug abuse, welfare fraud, etc, etc, etc. I have also worked for the Department of Human Services, and have met many folks who wanted to cheat the government out of welfare. I was quite determined to catch them at it if I could, and just as determined to make sure they got their checks if they were not cheats.

To reiterate, I don't object to exterminating people because I think everyone is nice, I object to exterminating people because it is wrong.

[Wabash]

POSTED: 6:52 am EDT March 14, 2008
UPDATED: 9:29 am EDT March 14, 2008

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A motorist driving on Interstate 4 was shot in the abdomen early Friday during a gun battle between moving cars on the busy roadway.

Orlando police said a fight apparently broke out between several men outside of a downtown Orlando nightclub Friday.

The participants in the fight left the downtown area in two vehicles and began to travel eastbound on I-4, police said.

A shootout ensued between the vehicles near Parr and Lee Road, Local 6's Tiffany Tift reported.

Officers said the driver of a white Cadillac was shot in the abdomen during the shooting.

Someone else inside the car jumped into victim's seat and was able to drive the victim to a Florida Hospital in Altamonte Springs.

The man, who was not identified, is expected to survive, officials told Local 6.

Police are asking for the public's help in searching for a Honda Sedan also involved in the incident.

Anyone with information concerning the shooting is urged to call Crimeline at 800-423-TIPS.
http://www.local6.com/news/15592277/detail.html

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[Wabash]

Ya know Wabash the west was won a century ago and cowboys use the internet to track cows

The east and for the matter the whole country is being lost to criminals like above! Let's Rehab them! Sure Sag....


HEY LL...the above is Central Florida...Great place, Less Fulfilling...more crime, more killing, less fun, and less filling!:LL

[Lone Laugher]

I still live without fear, Wabs. Doors unlocked all day long.....no bullet-proof vest when I go check the mail...golden retriever and a little fi-fi dog that will lick you to death before they even think about biting you.

If someone ever does try to break into my home or place of business...I'll handle the situation.....but I won't let fear reign over me.

[jim]

I still live without fear, Wabs. Doors unlocked all day long.....no bullet-proof vest when I go check the mail...golden retriever and a little fi-fi dog that will lick you to death before they even think about biting you.

If someone ever does try to break into my home or place of business...I'll handle the situation.....but I won't let fear reign over me.


Ditto here:godzilla

[Wabash]

Most of the time, you don't read what I say, Wabash, you and Ringo both make posts to what you think I mean instead of what I actually say and mean. You seem to believe that because people like PB and I don't go along with your ideas of extermination of certain groups, we think that everybody is nice and good. I don't, I live in the real world, and I've been here for a long time. I don't work in law enforcement, no. I do work in a poor community with a number of social problems like gang violence, domestic violence, child abuse, drug abuse, welfare fraud, etc, etc, etc. I have also worked for the Department of Human Services, and have met many folks who wanted to cheat the government out of welfare. I was quite determined to catch them at it if I could, and just as determined to make sure they got their checks if they were not cheats.

To reiterate, I don't object to exterminating people because I think everyone is nice, I object to exterminating people because it is wrong.
So is killing you or your family or your relatives or your neighbor's family! Gettting rid of that scum forthwith is RIGHT to me! It will come to that, when people just finally get fed up with trying to make the system work. The system is broken on most occasions.
I for one do read your posts....and some are good, others are liberal nonsense!

I still live without fear, Wabs. Doors unlocked all day long.....no bullet-proof vest when I go check the mail...golden retriever and a little fi-fi dog that will lick you to death before they even think about biting you.

If someone ever does try to break into my home or place of business...I'll handle the situation.....but I won't let fear reign over me.
If you think that I do, you are mistaken...fear does NOT reign over me and never has. You will have that attitude until you become a victim of a heinous crime, than we will see how well you deal with it...if you are even able to post here any longer. Taking precautions is preventative, just like changing the oil and filter on your vehicle...nothing more. There is common sense, than there is stupidity!

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Ditto here:godzilla
Well, Ditto my last post!

[Wabash]

Students Facing Charges Of Conspiracy To Commit Murder

Last Edited: Friday, 14 Mar 2008, 5:40 PM EDT
Created: Friday, 14 Mar 2008, 5:33 PM EDT

VOLUSIA COUNTY, Florida. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- Volusia County Sheriff's investigators say they may have foiled a ‘Columbine’ style school massacre.

Investigators have filed felony complaint affidavits against three DeLand Middle School students for plotting to shoot classmates and then kill themselves.

The three have been removed from the school since the plot was uncovered. All three, two boys and a girl, are 13-years-old and in 7th-grade at the school.

FOX 35 is choosing not to release the names of the juveniles at this time due to their ages.

According to witness statements, at least one of the three had been trying to get a gun, those efforts failed and investigators found no evidence that the three had access to weapons or the means to carry out an attack.

Still, Sheriff's investigators took the threats so seriously that they filed criminal complaint affidavits Friday afternoon charging the three with conspiracy to commit murder. The State Attorney's Office and a judge will review the complaint affidavits for the issuance of juvenile pick-up orders.

Authorities first learned of the plot last week, after receiving reports of disturbing threats being made by one of the boys in instant messages he wrote to another teen who had contacted him through his page on the social networking web site, MySpace.com.

The boy posed as a 19-year-old on his page, which features satanic references, a picture of a tombstone and other disturbing images and admiration for the two shooters responsible for the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School.

In the instant messages, the boy directed his rage at two students in particular, but also made general threats to lock the cafeteria doors during one of the lunch periods and shoot everyone in sight. "Everyone will pay for what they did to me," the boy wrote. He also claimed he was being teased and picked on at school. "They will all die along with me." The boy sent instant messages to another teen stating: "I will kill every person I see. ….The massacre will happen soon."

One of the teens was so disturbed by the messages that she sent them to a family member, who contacted the Sheriff's Office at about 10:15 p.m. on March 5. Without a last name, deputies had to do some investigating to identify the boy. They tracked him down at his home in Orange City at around 1 a.m. on March 6 and ended up taking him into custody for a mental health evaluation.

The boy told deputies that he wrote the messages to scare people. With assistance from school officials, investigators discovered that two other 7th-graders – Another boy and the girl -- had been openly talking about helping the first boy carry out his plans. Another witness told investigators that the first boy had recently asked him if he could get a gun, but the other boy told him he wasn't able to get one.

The other two children were also taken for mental health evaluations after the plot was uncovered. On Friday afternoon, the Sheriff's Office's lead investigator in the case, Trever Henderson, delivered complaint affidavits to the State Attorney's Office charging all three with conspiracy to commit murder.

Shortly after the affidavits were delivered a judge issued a pickup order for the three kids.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6034077&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

How many does that make this week, just in Central Florida? Seems like LL is desensitized to this....

[Wabash]

Man wanted for murder goes on stabbing spree

OKYO, Japan (AP) -- One person was stabbed to death and at least seven others were hurt by a man who went on a knifing spree outside a shopping mall in eastern Japan on Sunday, police said.

The suspect, who carried two knives, slashed the victims while walking along a short hallway connecting a railway station to the mall in the city of Tsuchiura, about 62 kilometers (38 miles) northeast of Tokyo, a police official said on condition of anonymity.

Chaos broke out after the attacks, with the sirens of several ambulances blasting through the mall compound and frightened shoppers trying to escape the bloody scene, said local police official Takahiro Nakajima.

At least seven people, including shoppers and a police officer, were injured and an eighth -- a 27-year-old man -- died as he was being rushed to a nearby hospital, said Kiyoto Ogata, a police spokesman.


Police arrested the alleged attacker, Masahiro Kanagawa, 24, who was wanted in the earlier slaying of a 72-year-old man, Ogata said.

The man later told investigators that he "just wanted to kill anyone," Kyodo News agency reported.

"It was extremely regrettable that we could not prevent the attacks that caused casualties, despite our utmost effort to avoid secondary crimes (by the wanted suspect)," Ibaraki prefectural state police official Takashi Ishii said at a news conference.

Violent crimes are relatively rare in Japan, where most shootings and stabbings are committed by the nation's "yakuza" crime syndicates.

However, street violence was up 4.6 percent in the first half of 2007, according to the National Police Agency's latest crime report.

Nearly 55 percent of murder cases during the same period involved swords and knives, while guns accounted for just 2.4 percent of the killings, the police agency reported.

To accommodate growing public concerns, the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department plans to launch an e-mail service next month to provide subscribers with warnings about wanted suspects, their crimes and locations.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/23/japan.stabbings.ap/index.html

That guy could have been a world traveler and ended up in the US............no place is truly safe.

[Wabash]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=106016

WAYCROSS, GA -- It's the type of news you don't expect to hear coming out of an elementary school.

Nine third grade students suspended at Center Elementary in Waycross for an alleged plot to attack their teacher.

"This plot was uncovered at the point that something dangerous was brought to the school," says Lt. Dwayne Caswell with Waycross Police.

Police say the students were hatching a plan to harm their teacher Friday morning. They even brought items from home to carry out the plan.

"They had a broken steak knife, a crystal paper weight, toy handcuffs, several items and tape and stuff," says Lt. Caswell.

Early Tuesday, the Waycross Police Department released photos of some of those items. They include the knife, handcuffs, and gloves.

Ware County School officials say a classmate told the principal about one of the students bringing a weapon to school. The discovery was later made that more students were in on the plot. The school says it’s a matter they are not taking lightly.

"Some might say 'They were young and in the third grade and how serious could it be?', but anytime our students' safety or our teachers' safety is compromised we obviously have to take that very seriously," says Theresa Martin with Ware County Schools.

The school district says all the students are suspended until further disciplinary action is decided.

"We continue to do what we always do which is work to make our students aware that this is not appropriate and we ask our parents to help us. The whole saying that it takes a village to raise a child is very appropriate at this time," says Martin.

Police say no criminal charges will be brought forth against the students.

The District Attorney is handling the case and students will most likely face juvenile charges of Unruly Child.

[nixon]

Everyone knows how kids are, let them have their fun.

[Trueblue]

:(

[Wabash]

POLK COUNTY, Fla. -- Behavioral experts said girls are the worst offenders for the type of bullying associated with a recent attack described as "animalistic" in which a group of six girls pummeled a classmate for 30 minutes until she passed out.

Girls fighting girls is becoming a troubling trend on YouTube, experts said.

A search for "girl fight in Florida" in YouTube uncovered a series of violent fights in Brevard, Volusia and Orange counties.

Experts classify the beatings as cyber-bullying, saying the girls can continue to torment their victims long after their bruises heal by posting the beatings online for the world to see.

Behavior experts said girls are the worst offenders for this type of bullying, Local 6's Lauren Rowe reported.

Expert Jill Gentry said the over exposure to violence in our culture may be behind the girls' apparently inability to feel empathy for the girl they are attacking.

"Aggression unfortunately can be very contagious at times," Gentry said.

Report: Girls Joked After Attack

Meanwhile, the girls accused in the attack joked in a holding cell after their arrests and wondered about missing cheer practice after the alleged attack, according to a report.

"They seem to have absolutely no remorse at all," Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said. "I don't understand the sheer violence."

Video of the Florida girl being punched and beaten at a Polk County home has gained national attention in recent days.

Judd said that he now wants the six girls and two boys involved in the attack charged as adults.

Sheriff: Girls Set Trap

Investigators said the victim apparently posted something against the six girls on MySpace before she was lured to the home by a phone call from teen Mercedes Nichols.

Police said the girl traveled to the house and walked into the trap.

One girl met her at the door and five others were hiding in a back room, detectives said. The girls were then seen on video pummeling the girl in the face and body and slamming her head into a wall.

As the videotape rolled, a girl's voice is heard yelling, "There is only 17 seconds left; make it good."

Police said the girls wanted to post the video on YouTube and MySpace.

"'There is only 17 seconds left; make it good,'" Judd said. "That is animalistic behavior and it is pack mentality. They lured her there to beat her and beat her. They left her with a concussion. We have photographs of her with two black eyes; her nose is swollen."

The girl was taken to a hospital by ambulance and treated for a concussion, damage to her left eye and ear, and numerous bruises, the report said.

The girl can no longer see well out of one eye and hear from one ear, Local 6 reported.

Police said two boys stood lookout outside the house during the beating.

Some of the girls accused of being involved in the attack were on a cheerleading squad at a local high school in Lakeland.

Following their arrests, some of the girls joked in a holding cell, the Lakeland Ledger reported.

One girl asked if she would be able to make it to cheerleading practice the next day, the report said.

The six girls and two boys face battery and false imprisonment charges.
http://www.local6.com/news/15831787/detail.html

[nixon]

POLK COUNTY, Fla. -- Behavioral experts said girls are the worst offenders for the type of bullying associated with a recent attack described as "animalistic" in which a group of six girls pummeled a classmate for 30 minutes until she passed out.

Girls fighting girls is becoming a troubling trend on YouTube, experts said.

A search for "girl fight in Florida" in YouTube uncovered a series of violent fights in Brevard, Volusia and Orange counties.

Experts classify the beatings as cyber-bullying, saying the girls can continue to torment their victims long after their bruises heal by posting the beatings online for the world to see.

Behavior experts said girls are the worst offenders for this type of bullying, Local 6's Lauren Rowe reported.

Expert Jill Gentry said the over exposure to violence in our culture may be behind the girls' apparently inability to feel empathy for the girl they are attacking.

"Aggression unfortunately can be very contagious at times," Gentry said.

Report: Girls Joked After Attack

Meanwhile, the girls accused in the attack joked in a holding cell after their arrests and wondered about missing cheer practice after the alleged attack, according to a report.

"They seem to have absolutely no remorse at all," Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said. "I don't understand the sheer violence."

Video of the Florida girl being punched and beaten at a Polk County home has gained national attention in recent days.

Judd said that he now wants the six girls and two boys involved in the attack charged as adults.

Sheriff: Girls Set Trap

Investigators said the victim apparently posted something against the six girls on MySpace before she was lured to the home by a phone call from teen Mercedes Nichols.

Police said the girl traveled to the house and walked into the trap.

One girl met her at the door and five others were hiding in a back room, detectives said. The girls were then seen on video pummeling the girl in the face and body and slamming her head into a wall.

As the videotape rolled, a girl's voice is heard yelling, "There is only 17 seconds left; make it good."

Police said the girls wanted to post the video on YouTube and MySpace.

"'There is only 17 seconds left; make it good,'" Judd said. "That is animalistic behavior and it is pack mentality. They lured her there to beat her and beat her. They left her with a concussion. We have photographs of her with two black eyes; her nose is swollen."

The girl was taken to a hospital by ambulance and treated for a concussion, damage to her left eye and ear, and numerous bruises, the report said.

The girl can no longer see well out of one eye and hear from one ear, Local 6 reported.

Police said two boys stood lookout outside the house during the beating.

Some of the girls accused of being involved in the attack were on a cheerleading squad at a local high school in Lakeland.

Following their arrests, some of the girls joked in a holding cell, the Lakeland Ledger reported.

One girl asked if she would be able to make it to cheerleading practice the next day, the report said.

The six girls and two boys face battery and false imprisonment charges.
http://www.local6.com/news/15831787/detail.htmlThey seen the video of the deputy toppling the guy out of his wheelchair.

[Trueblue]

I saw that video, it was terrible. They may have permanently damaged the victim's hearing. :(