Notice he did not call the stement untrue?

[Capitalist]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080311/D8VBFH9O0.html

Obama called Ferraro's comments "patently absurd."

"I don't think Geraldine Ferraro's comments have any place in our politics or in the Democratic Party. They are divisive. I think anybody who understands the history of this country knows they are patently absurd," he told the Allentown Morning Call. "And I would expect that the same way those comments don't have a place in my campaign they shouldn't have a place in Senator Clinton's either."

[Saguaro]

ab·surd (b-sûrd, -zûrd)
adj.
1. Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable. See Synonyms at foolish.
2. Of, relating to, or manifesting the view that there is no order or value in human life or in the universe.
3. Of or relating to absurdism or the absurd.

[Trueblue]

ab·surd (b-sûrd, -zûrd)
adj.
1. Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable. See Synonyms at foolish.
2. Of, relating to, or manifesting the view that there is no order or value in human life or in the universe.
3. Of or relating to absurdism or the absurd.

That makes it manifestly clear that he called the statement untrue. Thanks.

[issac the dragon]

:sparks2Ahem. That was one of the most rediculous posts I have ever seen. And posting on AWE, I have had the misfortune to see many. Has Capitalist gone off his pills?

[Yellowdogtexan]

Hint. You normally do not called for an opponent to fire a member of their staff for something that you consider to be true. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/top_obama_adviser_hillary_must.phpA few days after the Hillary campaign successfully claimed Samantha Power's scalp, the Obama campaign is out to force the Hillary camp to dump one of its own: Geraldine Ferraro.

On a conference call with reporters just now, top Obama adviser David Axelrod called on the Hillary camp to remove Ferraro from her position as major fundraiser for the campaign....

Axelrod, on the call, said of Ferraro: "She ought to be removed...there's no other way to send a serious sign that you want to change the tone of the campaign." He added that the remark was part of an "insidious pattern."

It's unclear exactly what Ferraro's role is. She's merely identified on the campaign's Web site as a "Hillraiser," which is to say a major fundraiser with an unofficial role. But she described herself as a member of the campaign's finance committee.

[Saguaro]

It seems Hillary believes in "Do as I say,not as I do "

[issac the dragon]

Ferraro, again: "Attacking me because I'm white"


Ferraro calls the Daily Breeze back, and re-iterates the Clinton's campaign's allegation that Obama is playing the race card.

"Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let's address reality and the problems we're facing in this world, you're accused of being racist, so you have to shut up," Ferraro said. "Racism works in two different directions. I really think they're attacking me because I'm white. How's that?"

Whichever side of the current spin war you buy, or partially buy, this is a very tough case for Ferraro, in particular, to make -- given that the Clinton campaign has already distanced itself from from her original statement.

But it seems like almost a dare to Obama to re-open the issue, a willingness to drag Obama into an argument over race.

ALSO: She stood by the comment on Fox, below.

"What I find offensive is everytime somebody says something about the campaign, you're accused of being racist," she said. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/Ferraro_again_Attacking_me_because_Im_white.html#

Interesting response. I don't agree with Obama that it was racist. Probably stupid, but he is totally unqualified to be POTUS, and wouldn't be a canidate if he weren't black. And I am not a racist.

[Trueblue]

I think he'd be a candidate no matter what, he's got a message that people like, and he is articulating what people want from their government.

[Saguaro]

Ok ,from my point of view , Hillary wouldn't even be a contender if she wasn't married to Bill Clinton. She is riding on his coat tails

[issac the dragon]

A great many people in this country want a black to be president, think the time is right, and think Obama is attractive enough to win. That isn't racist. A lot of people think the time is right for a woman to be president, and think Clinton is qualified, and could win. That isn't sexist. It is being tired of old, white, Christian men being the only ones who get to be president.

Pointing out that the country, or the Democrats in particular, have deliberately chosen a black and a woman, is not racist or sexist. It is something the Democrats should be and are proud of

Now, lets hear the Republicans say how proud they are to have a shriveled up old white man running for president.

[Trueblue]

That's not my motivation in either case. IMO, the Dems didn't deliberately choose a black man and a woman, that's who they liked the best. Most people I know weren't impressed with either gender or race, they liked the candidates.

[Lone Laugher]

I don't agree that this is some sort of plan being carried out. The fact that Obama is black and Clinton is a woman are unavoidable and certainly noteworthy given our nation's history...but to pin their success on those factors is short sighted.

The "time is right" for a qualified person with integrity and vision to become POTUS. I don't think race or gender are going to help anyone lacking those qualities get into the White House this time around.

[Matt]

The Democrats had a wonderful slate of candidates to choose from. I just hate the caucus thing that keeps some of the good ones from really getting a chance let the country decide if they are viable.

The Republicans didn't have much to choose from and McCain was chosen by default.
I wish there was less said about his age, which is not the major factor, and more said about his policies.
I think the McSame name fits well.
If you liked Bush/Cheney you are going to love McCain because he has even more wars in planned.
For all of those who believe that you strike first and then try diplomacy with a set of preconditions, Mac is your man.
I believe he would have had that same attitude at age 40 ~ so it's not about age.

As for Obama not calling the stement untrue, just how clear does one have to make the picture for you, Cap?

As Democrats, we expect more of our party members.
I am very disappointed in the statements coming from the Hillary camp. Her past actions do not indicate that this is the way she thinks.
Someone is apparently remembering that Corker became our Senator from TN by allowing the race card to be played.
I don't think it will get past the whole country like it did TN which has turned red for a while now.

[Ringo]

I think he'd be a candidate no matter what, he's got a message that people like, and he is articulating what people want from their government.

To my Leftist constituents says ODummy!!

CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE

CHANGE YOUR HABITS
CHANGE YOUR WAYS
CHANGE YOUR DIAPERS
CHANGE YOUR RELIGION TO ISLAM


WHAT A MESSAGE!!! IT CAUSES TB'S UPPER LEG TO TREMBLE AS WELL AS HER GIRLY BOY FRIENDS?? ITS CALLED CHRIS MATTHEWS SYNDROME??:LL:pb:deadshot:nerd:mw:sheep

[Saguaro]

:roll

[toxic]

Notice he did not call the stement untrue?

All casual observers and Affirmative Action beneficiaries know in their heart they are unqualified and undeserving.

That is why AA doesn't work.

The last two Democratic Presidential candidates (Gore & Kerry) had a wider range of experience, including Military Direct Ground Combat.

I guess the Conservative Drive By Press is going to wait till the General Election to ask Obama and Hillary why they selected the same non-military service option as Chickenhawk Cheney and the rest of the other GOP Chickenhawks.

Obama answer: Oh I was playing basketball and doing drugs instead.

Hillary answer: I got hit with a badmittion wicket once, does that count?

The GOP will shove these two AA candidates up the Democratic Party's ass soon. All the wimp asses will soon be wondering WTF happened to them.

[toxic]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20060602/cartoon20060602.gif

[Matt]

This is a bit extreme even for you, Ringer.
You must be feeling desperate along with the other 19% of America's Bushies.

[Yellowdogtexan]

This idiot had made similar racists comments before http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/11/21956/1233/291/474642Okay, I'm convinced. Geraldine Ferraro is a bona fide racist. April 15, 1988, Washington Post:And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his "radical" views, "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race."

Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, "Millions of Americans have a point of view different from" Ferraro's.

Discussing the same point in Washington, Jackson said, "We campaigned across the South . . . without a single catcall or boo. It was not until we got North to New York that we began to hear this from Koch, President Reagan and then Mrs. Ferraro . . . . Some people are making hysteria while I'm making history."
So forget about chalking this up to dementia.

[Wabash]

Too funny........

Liberals are ALL for Affirmative action .......untillllll.....it directly affects them!

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Only Geraldine can say this and get away with it! If obie wasn't a Bro....all the other Bros would be voting for Hillary! The entire Demo Party is unraveling...and I'm Lovin it! :LL

[Wabash]

To my Leftist constituents says ODummy!!

CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE

CHANGE YOUR HABITS
CHANGE YOUR WAYS
CHANGE YOUR DIAPERS
CHANGE YOUR RELIGION TO ISLAM


WHAT A MESSAGE!!! IT CAUSES TB'S UPPER LEG TO TREMBLE AS WELL AS HER GIRLY BOY FRIENDS?? ITS CALLED CHRIS MATTHEWS SYNDROME??:LL:pb:deadshot:nerd:mw:sheep
:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap

All casual observers and Affirmative Action beneficiaries know in their heart they are unqualified and undeserving.

That is why AA doesn't work.

The last two Democratic Presidential candidates (Gore & Kerry) had a wider range of experience, including Military Direct Ground Combat.

I guess the Conservative Drive By Press is going to wait till the General Election to ask Obama and Hillary why they selected the same non-military service option as Chickenhawk Cheney and the rest of the other GOP Chickenhawks.

Obama answer: Oh I was playing basketball and doing drugs instead.

Hillary answer: I got hit with a badmittion wicket once, does that count?

The GOP will shove these two AA candidates up the Democratic Party's ass soon. All the wimp asses will soon be wondering WTF happened to them.
:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20060602/cartoon20060602.gif
:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap
This is a bit extreme even for you, Ringer.
You must be feeling desperate along with the other 19% of America's Bushies.
Extreme????? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Truth is a Killer Matt! Truth is a Killer!!!!
Obie and Hillary are so not qualified to wipe my ass or anything else! Let alone run this country! Voting for either is as Foolish as can be....

[Wabash]

Voting for Obie or Hillary is a desperate exercise and totally Stupid!

[Matt]

Wabby, there was nothing in Ringer's post but hogwash that is difficult to decipher. I'm sure if could do better if he had any idea of what he wants to say. Instead he is trying to be cutesy ~ I guess what he would call being a girly boy. :roll

[Yellowdogtexan]

Ferraro has finally been forced out of the clinton campaign http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/12/ferraro-steps-down/Geraldine Ferraro has stepped down from her role as a member of Hillary Clinton's finance committee.

In a letter to Clinton obtained by CNN's Suzanne Malveaux — who spoke with the former vice presidential candidate shortly after she sent it to Clinton — Ferraro said she is stepping down so, "I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign."Does anyone believe that she was not asked to leave the clinton campaign?

[Saguaro]

Hillary is in second place, she had to get rid of Ferraro.

[Yellowdogtexan]

BTW, for those who are too dense to understand Senator Obama's first response, here is another statement where it is clear that he disagrees with the "stement" of Ferraro as well as Ferraro's statements. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/obama_stop_slicing_and_dicing.html Declining to describe her remarks as racist, Obama called them simply “ridiculous.’’

“People say things during the heat of campaigns’’ Obama said. “What I’m more concerned is for the Democratic Party as a whole, but also the country as a whole, not to get drawn up into this slicing and dicing of the electorate into black, white, male and female.’’

Cnvincing voters of his worthiness for the presidency remains his own challenge, he said.

“My general attitude is that if I’m not winning them over, it’s my fault,’’ the senator said. “I haven’t done something right. It’s not because of their attitudes. It’s because I haven’t connected, I haven’t spoken to their hopes and dreams and aspirations in a way that makes them feel confident that I’m going to deliver for them.

“That’s how it should be,’’ he said. “The presidency is a hard job and there are no excuses for non-performance. When the American people entrust you with not just their own safety and security and prosperity, but the futures of their children and their grandchildren, they have the right to run you through the paces. And I feel privileged to be getting run through the paces so well.”

Obama was asked if he believes that Ferraro’s comments are racist.

“I’m always hesitant to throw around words like racist,’’ he said. “I don’t think she intended them in that way. I’ve noted that today she was suggesting that somehow we have made that claim and in fact argued it repeatedly we’ve said that anybody who criticizes me is making racial comments, racially offensive comments.

"I would defy anybody to look through the record over the last year and a half or the last year and couple months and find one instance in which I have said some criticism is racially based,'' he said. "That is not something that I’ve done,.

"Here’s what I do believe,'' Obama said. "I think that her comments were ridiculous. I think they were wrong-headed. I think they’re not borne out of our history or by the facts. The notion that it is a great advantage for me to be an African American named Barack Obama in pursuit of the presidency, I think, is not a view that is commonly shared by the general public.

“If you pulled out a handbook of how to weigh your assets and liabilities in a presidential race,’’ he said, “I don’t think my name or my skin color would be in the asset column.

“Part of the idea of this campaign is that we can get beyond his and focus on what we have in common,’’ he said. “Now, it’s hard to do. I understand it’s hard to do. I understand it’s very tempting to look at exit polls and take a look at how the votes are breaking down and who’s going where. I don’t want to deny the role of race and gender in our society.

“They’re there and they’re powerful. But I don’t think it’s productive. I don’t think identity politics has served the Democratic Party well. I think it’s been an enormous distraction. When we are in these conversations, it means that people are not recognizing their common concerns around health care, their common interests in getting decent jobs, their common interests in making sure that we’re not loading up the national debt for the next generation. So to that extent, I think it was an unfortunate remark and I said so. It encourages and feeds into the divisive politics that ultimately does not serve us well…

“Here is what I believe,’’ he said. “The American people are looking for a president who cares about them who is listening to them who is fighting for them and who can deliver on some of the critical issues that they are facing. If I make that case, I will win. If I don’t make that case, I will lose.’’ Just to make clear, when Senator Obama says that these statements are wrong-headed, ridiculous and not borne out by the facts, that means he disagrees with these statements.

[Capitalist]

That makes it manifestly clear that he called the statement untrue. Thanks.

Like I said, he did not say untrue or a lie.

What he seems to be saying is that it is absurd that she would dare say it.

No white male with 8 years in a state Senate seat and 2 years as a Senator would even be considered a viable candidate. There must be some reason besides the empty rhetoric?

[Capitalist]

Hint. You normally do not called for an opponent to fire a member of their staff for something that you consider to be true. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/top_obama_adviser_hillary_must.php

The most damaging thing that can be said is the truth, that is what pissed him off, that someone of note put a voice to what many were thinking but had not the balls to actually say, and it took a socialist woman to do it.

[Capitalist]

I think he'd be a candidate no matter what, he's got a message that people like, and he is articulating what people want from their government.

No, he is articulating what leftists and slackers what form their government because most of them figure someone else will have to foot the bill.

Slackers and losers....

[Capitalist]

Ok ,from my point of view , Hillary wouldn't even be a contender if she wasn't married to Bill Clinton. She is riding on his coat tails

I have been saying that since 2000.

Obama is only where he is because he is a good speaker, but more importantly a good black speaker.

[Capitalist]

A great many people in this country want a black to be president, think the time is right, and think Obama is attractive enough to win. That isn't racist. A lot of people think the time is right for a woman to be president, and think Clinton is qualified, and could win. That isn't sexist. It is being tired of old, white, Christian men being the only ones who get to be president.

Pointing out that the country, or the Democrats in particular, have deliberately chosen a black and a woman, is not racist or sexist. It is something the Democrats should be and are proud of

Now, lets hear the Republicans say how proud they are to have a shriveled up old white man running for president.

I am glad to have a man that does not appeal to the least of us, the slackers and the people who beg for the government to save them by taking from others.

[Capitalist]

That's not my motivation in either case. IMO, the Dems didn't deliberately choose a black man and a woman, that's who they liked the best. Most people I know weren't impressed with either gender or race, they liked the candidates.

Of course the people YOU hang with think that, you hang with 'fellow travelers'.

[Capitalist]

The "time is right" for a qualified person with integrity and vision to become POTUS. .

So your voting for McCain?

[Capitalist]

This idiot had made similar racists comments before http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/11/21956/1233/291/474642

So daring to utter the truth is racist?

[Yellowdogtexan]

So daring to utter the truth is racist?No but being a racist does qualify. If you want to see a racist, go look in the mirror.

Clinton has disavowed and rejected these statements because they were both untrue and racist. The fact that you are too silly to understand this does change these facts.

[Capitalist]

No but being a racist does qualify. If you want to see a racist, go look in the mirror.

Clinton has disavowed and rejected these statements because they were both untrue and racist. The fact that you are too silly to understand this does change these facts.

Fuck your silly old bitch.

You don't know me well enough to know if I am a racist.

Being an objectivist preclude me from being racist as I judge each individual on their ability to pull their own wieght. Anyone who does that, no matter the gender race or religion, is fine by me. All who do not are slackers and moochers, those who support th4e government taking from some to care for the slackers are nothjing more than looters.

Up yours silly asshole.

[Wabash]

Fuck your silly old bitch.

You don't know me well enough to know if I am a racist.

Being an objectivist preclude me from being racist as I judge each individual on their ability to pull their own wieght. Anyone who does that, no matter the gender race or religion, is fine by me. All who do not are slackers and moochers, those who support th4e government taking from some to care for the slackers are nothjing more than looters.

Up yours silly asshole.
Ditto doggie...!

[Lone Laugher]

You are an Objectivist, Cappy? Really?

[issac the dragon]

Yeah, he is. And I'm a flying turtle.

But I do have an elephant in my living room called rampant inflation. My DD is a baker, and the price of flour double in the last six weeks. Check it out the next time you buy bread. And that is going to help do in the Republicans. Inflation, falling wages, unemployment, and the interest rates are going down to about 2%. According to the Bushie banker I heard on the tube. That means that peoples savings and bonds are going down the toilet. Hope none of you had planned on retiring soon.

[jim]

Fuck your silly old bitch.

You don't know me well enough to know if I am a racist.

Being an objectivist preclude me from being racist as I judge each individual on their ability to pull their own wieght. Anyone who does that, no matter the gender race or religion, is fine by me. All who do not are slackers and moochers, those who support th4e government taking from some to care for the slackers are nothjing more than looters.

Up yours silly asshole.

You haven't "pulled ypur own weight":hotdog...It has been handed to you on a silver platter...like most damn Republicans:hulk:zen

[Matt]

So daring to utter the truth is racist?
No, for you it would be an anomaly.

I will not return for caps response. :cuss