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toxic
03-10-2008, 01:25 PM
The NY Times reports the NY Democratic Govenor Spitzer for invlovement in a prostitution Ring.

Is it still the LIBERAL MEDIA?

He was the State Prosecutor who won fame in recent years for cracking down on Wall Street crime.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?em&ex=1205294400&en=d0917c3b73427b6a&ei=5087%0A

Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring

ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides inside his Fifth Avenue apartment early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He scheduled an announcement for 2:15 after inquiries from the Times.

Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform an end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.

The governor’s travel records show that he was in Washington in mid-February. One of the clients described in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, the Emperors Club VIP on the night of Feb. 13.

Mr. Spitzer appeared on a CNBC television show at 7 a.m. the next morning. Later in the morning, he testified before a Congressional committee.

An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.

He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.

Wabash
03-10-2008, 02:18 PM
Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring
By DANNY HAKIM and WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM

ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been caught on a federal wiretap arranging to meet with a high-priced prostitute at a Washington hotel last month, according to a person briefed on the federal investigation.

The wiretap recording, made during an investigation of a prostitution ring called Emperors Club VIP, captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington, where he had reserved a room. The person briefed on the case identified Mr. Spitzer as Client 9.

The governor learned that he had been implicated in the prostitution probe when a federal official contacted his staff last Friday, according to the person briefed on the case.

The governor informed his top aides Sunday night and this morning of his involvement. He canceled his public events today and scheduled an announcement for this afternoon after inquiries from the Times.

The governor’s aides appeared shaken, and one of them began to weep as they waited for him to make his statement at his Manhattan office. Mr. Spitzer was seen leaving his Fifth Avenue apartment just before 3 p.m. with his wife of 21 years, Silda, heading to the news conference.

The man described as Client 9 in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, Emperors Club VIP, on the night of Feb. 13. Mr. Spitzer traveled to Washington that evening, according to a person told of his travel arrangements.

The affidavit says that Client 9 met with the woman in hotel room 871 but does not identify the hotel. Mr. Spitzer stayed at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on Feb. 13, according to a source who was told of his travel arrangements. Room 871 at the Mayflower Hotel that evening was registered under the another name.

Federal prosecutors rarely charge clients in prostitution cases, which are generally seen as state crimes. But the Mann Act, passed by Congress in 1910 to address prostitution, human trafficking and what was viewed at the time as immorality in general, makes it a crime to transport someone between states for the purpose of prostitution. The four defendants charged in the case unsealed last week were all charged with that crime, along with several others.

Mr. Spitzer had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months has been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?ei=5087&em=&en=d0917c3b73427b6a&ex=1205294400&pagewanted=print


In June 2005, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson hailed Eliot Spitzer as "the future of the (Democratic) party." And 2004 presidential candidate Wesley Clark said that Spitzer was on his vice-presidential short-list.
:rofl:rofl:rofl
Larry Craig is now yesterday's news...now there's a Demo to Fry!

Capitalist
03-10-2008, 02:42 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336493,00.html

I bet Hillera wishes this had not happened.

Bad memories....

Capitalist
03-10-2008, 02:44 PM
The NY Times reports the NY Democratic Govenor Spitzer for invlovement in a prostitution Ring.

Is it still the LIBERAL MEDIA?

He was the State Prosecutor who won fame in recent years for cracking down on Wall Street crime.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?em&ex=1205294400&en=d0917c3b73427b6a&ei=5087%0A

Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring

ALBANY - Gov. Eliot Spitzer has informed his most senior administration officials that he had been involved in a prostitution ring, an administration official said this morning.

Mr. Spitzer, who was huddled with his top aides inside his Fifth Avenue apartment early this afternoon, had hours earlier abruptly canceled his scheduled public events for the day. He scheduled an announcement for 2:15 after inquiries from the Times.

Mr. Spitzer, a first term Democrat who pledged to bring ethics reform an end the often seamy ways of Albany, is married with three children.

Just last week, federal prosecutors arrested four people in connection with an expensive prostitution operation. Administration officials would not say that this was the ring with which the governor had become involved.

But a person with knowledge of the governor’s role said that the person believes the governor is one of the men identified as clients in court papers.

The governor’s travel records show that he was in Washington in mid-February. One of the clients described in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, the Emperors Club VIP on the night of Feb. 13.

Mr. Spitzer appeared on a CNBC television show at 7 a.m. the next morning. Later in the morning, he testified before a Congressional committee.

An affidavit filed in federal court in Manhattan in connection with that case lists six conversations between the man, identified as Client 9, and a booking agent for the Emperors Club.

He had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Mr. Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades.

Mr. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force.

In one such case in 2004, Mr. Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island.

“”This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure,” Mr. Spitzer said at the time. ”It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring.”

Albany for months been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Mr. Spitzer’s first scandal, his aides’ involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state’s top Republican.

Had not seen this one yet.

He did not resign he is going to try to pull a Clinton.

issac the dragon
03-10-2008, 03:04 PM
Do you hear any Dems here defending him? I can't speak for them, but I doubt if they are going to. I want his ass fried. All politicians suck. There must be some terrible thing that happens to people when they gain political power. Greed, lust, etc. As I recall, David prayed to be kept from temptation, not sin. Without the one, there would be a lot less of the other.

String up the creep.

Wabash
03-10-2008, 03:29 PM
Do you hear any Dems here defending him? I can't speak for them, but I doubt if they are going to. I want his ass fried. All politicians suck. There must be some terrible thing that happens to people when they gain political power. Greed, lust, etc. As I recall, David prayed to be kept from temptation, not sin. Without the one, there would be a lot less of the other.

String up the creep.
Very true issac! The thing is many of these folks are predisposed to this kind of behavior, before they get elected to office.....

Trueblue
03-10-2008, 03:40 PM
Shocking news. He kept this well hidden. I would expect him to resign before long.

Capitalist
03-10-2008, 04:52 PM
Do you hear any Dems here defending him? I can't speak for them, but I doubt if they are going to. I want his ass fried. All politicians suck. There must be some terrible thing that happens to people when they gain political power. Greed, lust, etc. As I recall, David prayed to be kept from temptation, not sin. Without the one, there would be a lot less of the other.

String up the creep.

Spitzer's character was not corrupted by power. The power was corrupted by his character.

Capitalist
03-10-2008, 04:53 PM
Shocking news. He kept this well hidden. I would expect him to resign before long.

Yeah, that is what I thought about Clinton.

My guess is that like Clinton he is taking a poll to see if he has any support. of course unlike Clinton they have audio tape of him. In his case the blue dress is discovered in the beginning.

Trueblue
03-10-2008, 05:19 PM
Completely different situation from Clinton, though. This involves prostitution, not an affair. Prostitution is illegal, affairs are not.

Wabash
03-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Completely different situation from Clinton, though. This involves prostitution, not an affair. Prostitution is illegal, affairs are not.

Nope, just immoral. Until you lie to everyone about it including the Grand Jury and then......

Trueblue
03-10-2008, 07:23 PM
I wish I had the mental agility to convince myself you cared about Monica for any reason other than they make you :mad. :lol

Ringo
03-11-2008, 07:08 AM
Completely different situation from Clinton, though. This involves prostitution, not an affair. Prostitution is illegal, affairs are not.

Either one when your married is a big deal, and marriage means little to those arrogant bastards! You know Prostitutes couldn't make a dime if it weren't for girly men, as most men do not pay for sex, and most MEN don't entice very very young women into PUBLIC buildings for BJ's either!!!:mw:mw

Ringo
03-11-2008, 07:13 AM
I wish I had the mental agility to convince myself you cared about Monica for any reason other than they make you :mad. :lol

How many assaults and affairs are you willing to forgive TB, just to keep an asshole like Bill in Office?? Where was the NOW gang on this one or the others, where was the outrage?? I think he should be denutted, so the bastard quits using his position of phony power to fuck up womens lives!!:devil:hulk

nixon
03-11-2008, 07:18 AM
So the guy is chillin' with a few girls. Big deal. Let him have his fun.

Capitalist
03-11-2008, 10:56 AM
I wish I had the mental agility to convince myself you cared about Monica for any reason other than they make you :mad. :lol

I care about monica, much more than Bill Clinton did. I have a daughter who is just a littel younger than Clinton at the time he did what he sis with her. She is now a little over 30 and cannot have a normal life because of that scumbag. She can't have a boyfriend that won't wonder about it , same for a future husband. Her children (if she ever has any) will eventually find out she gace the president of the US a blowjob. Bill called her a stalker , fucking liar, he went on to become rich and have people like you denfend him. While she keeps getting fucked over bu the whole thing.

I can tell you this, if it were my daughter I would find a way to beat the shit out of that asshole and smile all the way to jail.

You and people like you never even consider what this has doe to her.

toxic
03-11-2008, 11:57 AM
I care about monica, much more than Bill Clinton did. I have a daughter who is just a littel younger than Clinton at the time he did what he sis with her. She is now a little over 30 and cannot have a normal life because of that scumbag. She can't have a boyfriend that won't wonder about it , same for a future husband. Her children (if she ever has any) will eventually find out she gace the president of the US a blowjob. Bill called her a stalker , fucking liar, he went on to become rich and have people like you denfend him. While she keeps getting fucked over bu the whole thing.

I can tell you this, if it were my daughter I would find a way to beat the shit out of that asshole and smile all the way to jail.

You and people like you never even consider what this has doe to her.

So, does this mean you are retracting your statement from 2 days ago, when you said that you never cared about what Bill Clinton did, you just used Monica to bad-mouth him?

:)

Wabash
03-11-2008, 12:18 PM
I wish I had the mental agility to convince myself you cared about Monica for any reason other than they make you :mad. :lol
If you are talking to me, hard to tell here, no one makes me do anything! That said, I don't really give Monica much thought. She was free, white and over 21(24 at the time, to be exact) and knew what she was doing. Do I think Bill took advantage of her? Sure! Do I care about her life before, doing or after Bill? No. The real issue is Bill and his lying to the American people on national TV and to a Grand Jury! That is the ONLY issue here!

Either one when your married is a big deal, and marriage means little to those arrogant bastards! You know Prostitutes couldn't make a dime if it weren't for girly men, as most men do not pay for sex, and most MEN don't entice very very young women into PUBLIC buildings for BJ's either!!!:mw:mw
Yep..

How many assaults and affairs are you willing to forgive TB, just to keep an asshole like Bill in Office?? Where was the NOW gang on this one or the others, where was the outrage?? I think he should be denutted, so the bastard quits using his position of phony power to fuck up womens lives!!:devil:hulk
TB would stick up for Bill if he was suspected of Rape or Murder...she could Never lambast a person she voted for, no matter how wrong she was in voting for him...or her.

So the guy is chillin' with a few girls. Big deal. Let him have his fun.
That would be the teenager's view of the world...yep...

I care about monica, much more than Bill Clinton did. I have a daughter who is just a littel younger than Clinton at the time he did what he sis with her. She is now a little over 30 and cannot have a normal life because of that scumbag. She can't have a boyfriend that won't wonder about it , same for a future husband. Her children (if she ever has any) will eventually find out she gace the president of the US a blowjob. Bill called her a stalker , fucking liar, he went on to become rich and have people like you denfend him. While she keeps getting fucked over bu the whole thing.

I can tell you this, if it were my daughter I would find a way to beat the shit out of that asshole and smile all the way to jail.

You and people like you never even consider what this has doe to her.
Other than caring about Monica, I mostly agree with you.

Capitalist
03-11-2008, 02:08 PM
So, does this mean you are retracting your statement from 2 days ago, when you said that you never cared about what Bill Clinton did, you just used Monica to bad-mouth him?

:)

No, at the time it all happened my daughter was still a little girl and I did not have the frame of reference I have now.

At the time I just used the whole thing to bash the asshole cause I never liked him.

After my daughter went off to college a couple of years ago it made me realize what scum he is and how he was my age and going after a girl that he should have been protecting not trying to fuck.

Capitalist
03-11-2008, 02:11 PM
If you are talking to me, hard to tell here, no one makes me do anything! That said, I don't really give Monica much thought. She was free, white and over 21(24 at the time, to be exact) and knew what she was doing. Do I think Bill took advantage of her? Sure! Do I care about her life before, doing or after Bill? No. The real issue is Bill and his lying to the American people on national TV and to a Grand Jury! That is the ONLY issue here!


Yep..


TB would stick up for Bill if he was suspected of Rape or Murder...she could Never lambast a person she voted for, no matter how wrong she was in voting for him...or her.


That would be the teenager's view of the world...yep...


Other than caring about Monica, I mostly agree with you.


I feel sorry for her now, She is the but of a million jokes and will NEVER have a normal life. Clinton goes on and acts like nothing ever happened. I did not really think of it this way until my daughter got close tot he age Monica was when Clinton screwed her over.

Like I said, if it is my daughter I would have kicked his sorry ass one way or another, even if I had to wait 15 years to do it.

toxic
03-11-2008, 02:38 PM
Well the Washington Post (Liberal Media) gives him a wire brushing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/10/AR2008031002724_pf.html

At the Mayflower, Client 9's Sinking Ship

By Dana Milbank
Tuesday, March 11, 2008; A02

The woman accused of running a prostitution ring allegedly patronized by Eliot Spitzer told one of her call girls that the New York governor had been known to "ask you to do things that, like, you might not think were safe."

But whatever Spitzer -- or, in the language of a federal court filing, "Client-9" -- did with a petite brunette nicknamed "Kristen" on the eve of Valentine's Day last month at Washington's Mayflower Hotel, it probably wasn't as monstrous as what he asked his wife to do yesterday.

In the grand tradition of Larry Craig, David Vitter and Jim McGreevey, Spitzer dragged his partner of 21 years before the television cameras at his offices in New York to announce that he was "disappointed" in himself for unspecified sins.

Silda Wall Spitzer looked like a victim of food poisoning as she stood by her man's side. She cast her eyes downward at the 183-word statement while he read it. She raised her glance only briefly, when the governor admitted he had "acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family," when he offered an apology "to the public, whom I promised better," and again when he pledged to "dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family."

The silent Mrs. Spitzer -- Harvard law school graduate, corporate lawyer, nonprofit founder and mother of the governor's three daughters -- then led Client 9 away from the lectern.

Fortunately for Mrs. Spitzer, the ordeal lasted only 67 seconds, and the governor, his forehead shining under the TV lights, took no questions. Unfortunately for Mr. Spitzer, this left unchallenged a rather lurid account of the events of last month at the Mayflower in the federal prosecutors' filing; indeed, Spitzer admitted that he violated "any sense of right and wrong."

You're not kidding, Governor. Client 9 didn't even splurge on the Acela for the prostitute.

The filing indicates she took the 5:39 p.m. regional Amtrak down from Penn Station on Feb. 13 for her rendezvous with Spitzer in Washington. But Kristen -- described in the court papers as a "very pretty brunette, 5 feet 5 inches, and 105 pounds" -- forgave the governor for this slight. Calling in to her, uh, dispatcher just after midnight on Valentine's Day, she reported that Client 9 had given her $4,300 for the session and down payment toward the next. Spitzer had used just two of his four allotted hours; he had to testify the next morning before a House Financial Services subcommittee on the "State of the Bond Insurance Industry."

Spitzer evidently had a reputation with the service for being "difficult" -- a sentiment shared by many Wall Street executives he prosecuted -- but Kristen was philosophical. "I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is," she said in a phone call recorded by the feds. "I am not a . . . moron, you know what I mean. So maybe that's why girls maybe think they're difficult."

And besides, Kristen went on, "I have a way of dealing with that. . . . I'd be, like, 'Listen, dude, you really want the sex?' "

Thrice in his brief statement, Spitzer spoke of his affection for his home state: his desire to "bring real change to New York," to "rebuild New York" and to do "what is best for the state of New York." Even in scandal, he sought to patronize New York products, working with a New York company to have Kristen exported.

Yet Spitzer, in risking scandal in a hotel room, also had the good sense to take his business to a city famous for such activities. In selecting the Mayflower, he chose the same hotel believed to have been used for assignations by John F. Kennedy, and the very place where Monica Lewinsky stayed when she testified about her tryst with Bill Clinton. A couple of blocks in either direction are the Jefferson, where Clinton adviser Dick Morris met a prostitute, and the Westin Grand, where defense contractors were said to have provided prostitutes to government officials.

Franklin Roosevelt liked the Mayflower, too, albeit for more legitimate pursuits; he is said to have written the line "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" in Room 776, one flight down from Spitzer's room, 871. (The New York Times discovered that Spitzer had booked the room under the name of George Fox, one of his donors.)

Client 9 was having a bit of a credit problem with the service, the court filing shows. His "package" -- cash payment -- hadn't arrived and, for obvious reasons, he preferred not to "do traditional wire transferring."

Just in time, the package arrived, and Spitzer, told that his visitor was Kristen, replied, "Great, okay, wonderful." The service "asked Client-9 whether he could give 'Kristen' 'extra funds' at this appointment in order to avoid payment issues in the future," the prosecution filing says.

In extensive detail, the prosecutors' filing notes the financial arrangements ("Client-9 would be paying for everything -- train tickets, cab fare from the hotel and back, mini bar or room service, travel time, and hotel") and the meeting logistics for Room 871 ("Client-9 explained that the door would not be visibly open, but if someone pushed it, the door would open").

By late afternoon yesterday, the Mayflower had stationed a security guard on the eighth floor to keep the scandal-minded at bay. Some of the camera-toting tourists had already dubbed it the "Spitzer Hotel." But Kristen and Client 9 were long gone. In their place, reporters arriving on the scene encountered a bit of fitting imagery for the New York governor: a meeting of the National Funeral Directors Association.

Staff writer Petula Dvorak contributed to this report.

Wabash
03-11-2008, 02:39 PM
I feel sorry for her now, She is the but of a million jokes and will NEVER have a normal life. Clinton goes on and acts like nothing ever happened. I did not really think of it this way until my daughter got close tot he age Monica was when Clinton screwed her over.

Like I said, if it is my daughter I would have kicked his sorry ass one way or another, even if I had to wait 15 years to do it.
Well, you are very right about that...she was and is the butt of a million jokes. She has gone down in history for the scandal of the WH. Bill Clinton was the epitome of WH scandals and brought shame to the Office. He should have been impeached....40 or more years prior to that, he would have been...but, in today's lack of morals, folks loved him for it!

Back on topic...Spitzer is toast and a total hypocrite. Want to feel sorry for someone, how about his wife, who has to endure this pain of a deviant, criminal husband....between the Prossy Ring and the fraud, he should be facing jail time! He has committed multiple crimes for which he prosecuted many in the past!
Ya, here's a Demo you libs can look up to and support!

Wabash
03-11-2008, 02:42 PM
This photo tells it all! Can you feel the ultimate humiliation? She does!!!!

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x77/watermelon039/Spitzerandwife.jpg

Wabash
03-11-2008, 02:46 PM
Aides Expect N.Y. Governor To Step Down

POSTED: 9:03 am EDT March 11, 2008
UPDATED: 2:39 pm EDT March 11, 2008

ALBANY, N.Y. -- A top Republican state lawmaker has laid out an apparent ultimatum to Gov. Eliot Spitzer: Resign in the next two days, or I'll push for impeachment.

Assembly Minority Leader James Tedisco said the state can't have the governor's prostitution scandal hanging over its head. Spitzer allegedly used the escort service for at least six months and paid more than $15,000 for numerous meetings, a source familiar with the case told WNBC.com.

To get articles of impeachment to the floor, Tedisco would need support from the Democratic majority in the Assembly. If the measure passed there, it would still need at least two-thirds approval of the combined vote of the Republican-controlled Senate and the nine-member Court of Appeals to proceed to trial.

However, Tedisco might not need to take those steps. Aides and Democratic colleagues have told NewsChannel 4 that they expect Spitzer to resign.

The sources said they expect the New York governor to submit a resignation letter he already drafted.

However, sources also said the governor spent time Monday reaching out to supporters to gauge if he would have their support should he decide to hold onto his office.

Should Spitzer step down, Lt. Gov. David Paterson would be offered the governornship.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg weighed in on the situation Tuesday, saying he sent the governor his best wishes.

"I told him my thoughts were with him and wished him all the best," said Bloomberg, adding that any conversations between himself and Spitzer are private.

Meanwhile, more information about the governor's alleged meeting with a prostitute have emerged, including the detail that the Democratic governor used the alias "George Fox" when meeting with a prostitute. His alleged conversations with the prostitution ring are detailed in court papers in which Spitzer is identified as "Client 9," according to a source.

Read a statement from the real George Fox, who said he considers the governor "a close friend."

The case started when banks noticed the frequent cash transfers from several accounts and filed suspicious activity reports with the Internal Revenue Service, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday. The accounts were traced back to Spitzer, prompting public corruption investigators to open an inquiry.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

The inquiry found that Spitzer was a repeat customer with the Emperors Club VIP, a high-end prostitution service, the official said. In an affidavit filed in Manhattan federal court last week, Spitzer appeared as "Client 9," according to another law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation.

Spitzer allegedly paid for the call girl to take a train from New York to Washington -- a move that opened the transaction up to federal prosecution because she crossed state lines. The governor has not been charged, and prosecutors would not comment on the case. A Spitzer spokesman said the governor has retained a large Manhattan law firm.

Client 9 wanted a high-priced prostitute named Kristen to come to Washington on a 5:39 p.m. train from Manhattan Feb. 13. The door to the hotel room would be left ajar. Train tickets, cab fare, room service, and the minibar were all on him.

"Yup, same as in the past. No question about it," the caller told Kristen's boss, when asked if he would make his payment to the same business as usual, a federal affidavit said. The client paid $4,300 to Kristen, touted by the escort service as a "petite, pretty brunette," according to the court papers.

The tryst took place in the Mayflower hotel, where Spitzer rented a second room for the woman under another name, the law enforcement official who spoke to The AP on Tuesday said. Spitzer had to sneak past his State Police detail to get to her room, the official said.

Spitzer, a 48-year-old father of three teenage girls, was elected with a historic margin of victory, and took office Jan. 1, 2007, vowing to stamp out corruption in New York government in the same way that he took on Wall Street executives while state attorney general.

Spitzer's cases as attorney general included a few criminal prosecutions of prostitution rings and tourism involving prostitutes. He also uncovered crooked practices and self-dealing in the stock brokerage and insurance industries and in corporate board rooms; he went after former New York Stock Exchange chairman Richard Grasso over his $187.5 million compensation package.

Spitzer become known as the "Sheriff of Wall Street." Time magazine named him "Crusader of the Year," and the tabloids proclaimed him "Eliot Ness." The square-jawed graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law was sometimes mentioned as a potential presidential candidate.

Spitzer's term as governor has been fraught with problems, including an unpopular plan to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants and a plot by his aides to smear his main Republican nemesis.

Attention turned to the state's lieutenant governor, David Paterson, who automatically becomes governor if Spitzer quits. There was no immediate comment from Paterson, who would become New York's first black governor.

There was no word on Spitzer's plans, but Assembly Republican leader James Tedisco said Tuesday he received a call Monday from Paterson.

Tedisco said Paterson raised the possibility of such a scenario by asking if Tedisco, who has been at odds with Spitzer, would be willing to start fresh with him.

"He called me to ask if we would give him the benefit of the doubt, and go forward," Tedisco said. "I told him we would."

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/15562646/detail.html

Wabash
03-11-2008, 02:47 PM
George Pataki was sooooooooooooooo much better for the job!

Ringo
03-11-2008, 03:49 PM
This photo tells it all! Can you feel the ultimate humiliation? She does!!!!

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x77/watermelon039/Spitzerandwife.jpg

Where is Doggie for the Defense yer honor!! Suppose he is out checking fire plugs or smellin bu*** in the park, with various Bar members????:mw:sheep

Capitalist
03-11-2008, 04:00 PM
Well, you are very right about that...she was and is the butt of a million jokes. She has gone down in history for the scandal of the WH. Bill Clinton was the epitome of WH scandals and brought shame to the Office. He should have been impeached....40 or more years prior to that, he would have been...but, in today's lack of morals, folks loved him for it!

Back on topic...Spitzer is toast and a total hypocrite. Want to feel sorry for someone, how about his wife, who has to endure this pain of a deviant, criminal husband....between the Prossy Ring and the fraud, he should be facing jail time! He has committed multiple crimes for which he prosecuted many in the past!
Ya, here's a Demo you libs can look up to and support!


He was impeached, he just was not convicted by the Senate (cowards would not even let evidence be presented)

nixon
03-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Where is Doggie for the Defense yer honor!! Suppose he is out checking fire plugs or smellin bu*** in the park, with various Bar members????:mw:sheepI'll defend the guy. He's paying for some... big deal. All of you saints out there have never paid for any? All of you that were enlisted? Never? I would not defend him if he were having sex with another man all the while trying to pass legislation against the gay community. Let he who sucks dick cast the first stone. Amen. Nixon.

Trueblue
03-11-2008, 05:24 PM
So, does this mean you are retracting your statement from 2 days ago, when you said that you never cared about what Bill Clinton did, you just used Monica to bad-mouth him?

:)

I didn't realize it had been that recent. Well, well.

I do believe that Monica was used and abused, by Bill Clinton, and by Ken Starr and a bunch of other Publicans. Spare us all the idea that any of this was done for her sake by the Pubs!!!!!!

Bill had an affair, it was nobody's business but the families involved. It got turned into a circus by power-hungry Pubs. Like the Terri Schiavo fiasco, it didn't turn out the way that they hoped.

Capitalist
03-11-2008, 05:44 PM
I'll defend the guy. He's paying for some... big deal. All of you saints out there have never paid for any? All of you that were enlisted? Never? I would not defend him if he were having sex with another man all the while trying to pass legislation against the gay community. Let he who sucks dick cast the first stone. Amen. Nixon.

He was a self righteous bully who procecuted people and put them in jail in prostitution stings.

He built his reputation as Mr. Clean but behind the scenes he was an overly ambitious asshole.

It seems Karma is indeed a Clinton!

Capitalist
03-11-2008, 05:48 PM
I didn't realize it had been that recent. Well, well.

I do believe that Monica was used and abused, by Bill Clinton, and by Ken Starr and a bunch of other Publicans. Spare us all the idea that any of this was done for her sake by the Pubs!!!!!!

Bill had an affair, it was nobody's business but the families involved. It got turned into a circus by power-hungry Pubs. Like the Terri Schiavo fiasco, it didn't turn out the way that they hoped.

Sorry but when a 51 year old who just happens to be the most powerful man on earth takes advantage of a woman of that age, it is someones business. When he does it on the job in the office, that also makes it our business. Ken Starr did not abuse that girl. If Clinton does not do what he did, nothing happens.

Again, I can promise you any man that did to my daughter what Clinton did to Monica would answer to me and he would not enjoy it.

Clinton was and is scum and I just love it when this kind of thing (whetherr it be rep or dem) sheds light on his real legacy.

Trueblue
03-11-2008, 05:50 PM
I don't mind his ambition to clean things up, the things he was cleaning needed it! He won big in NY, which is a clear signal that people are not cynical and selfish about their government, but rather want good clean government.

What bothers me is the outrageous hypocrisy. :pissed

AYFR
03-11-2008, 06:54 PM
Wondering, should he resign for breaking the law or for paying for a prostitute?

nixon
03-11-2008, 07:24 PM
He was a self righteous bully who procecuted people and put them in jail in prostitution stings.

He built his reputation as Mr. Clean but behind the scenes he was an overly ambitious asshole.

It seems Karma is indeed a Clinton!There are things that I will agree with you on. I would like to see him held to a higher standard than those that he prosecuted. Let me make myself clear, the defense is not for a crooked lawmaker, it is a defense for prostitution. If there are two adults in an agreement, where does our government come in on this? The two adults are not robbing, cheating or stealing, why is it illegal to begin with? Two consensual adults, where's the problem?

Trueblue
03-11-2008, 08:10 PM
Wondering, should he resign for breaking the law or for paying for a prostitute?

That's the law he broke.

AYFR
03-11-2008, 08:21 PM
Ok let me rephrase, should he resign for breaking the law or cheating

Trueblue
03-11-2008, 08:23 PM
Breaking the law. If all the cheaters resigned, the Capitol Building would be empty.

Seriously, for breaking the law. Not for cheating, that is a private matter.

Trueblue
03-12-2008, 05:02 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-stpro0311,0,7985009.story

Gov. Eliot Spitzer had at least seven or eight liaisons over the last several years with prostitutes supplied by an international call girl ring based in New Jersey, according to sources familiar with the investigation into Spitzer's relationship with the ring.

Spitzer ended up as the subject of an investigation into the prostitution because his bank branch in Manhattan turned him in to the Internal Revenue Service as someone who might be engaged in suspicious currency transactions, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Agents of the IRS Criminal Investigation Division initially started a probe, fearing that the governor was the victim of some sort of blackmail scheme or that he was being victimized by an impostor, the sources said.

The bank, as is required by law, filed an SAR, or Suspicious Activity Report, with the Internal Revenue Service, reporting the transfer of the money that exceeded $10,000, but had been broken down into smaller amounts, the sources said.

Viki
03-12-2008, 05:19 AM
"Agents of the IRS Criminal Investigation Division initially started a probe, fearing that the governor was the victim of some sort of blackmail scheme or that he was being victimized by an impostor, the sources said."

And that's what's really scary... how dare he develop such close ties and be beholden to an illegal prostitution ring; they could have blackmailed him at any time.

Forget adultery, that's corruption.

Ringo
03-12-2008, 06:57 AM
There are things that I will agree with you on. I would like to see him held to a higher standard than those that he prosecuted. Let me make myself clear, the defense is not for a crooked lawmaker, it is a defense for prostitution. If there are two adults in an agreement, where does our government come in on this? The two adults are not robbing, cheating or stealing, why is it illegal to begin with? Two consensual adults, where's the problem? I believe this could be heading towards the Mann act if its not already there, and there was even something about money laundering! Do you have a clue WHO controls MOST Prostitution in the NY-NJ area Nickson?? Try the MOB!!

There are even stories about that his wife has signed up for the Hillary course on Ash Tray throwing and kicks aimed for the family jewels??

Lets see now I DIDN'T have Sex with that woman...define IS...a Blow Job is not sex,,,oh wait we did the deed...Missionary for 30 seconds is not sex, at least according to the Pro that did me???:mw:mw:mw:LL

nixon
03-12-2008, 07:17 AM
I believe this could be heading towards the Mann act if its not already there, and there was even something about money laundering! Do you have a clue WHO controls MOST Prostitution in the NY-NJ area Nickson?? Try the MOB!!

There are even stories about that his wife has signed up for the Hillary course on Ash Tray throwing and kicks aimed for the family jewels??

Lets see now I DIDN'T have Sex with that woman...define IS...a Blow Job is not sex,,,oh wait we did the deed...Missionary for 30 seconds is not sex, at least according to the Pro that did me???:mw:mw:mw:LLLike I said, hold these people to a higher standard
if they break the law. I don't agree with these bullshit laws, it maybe my Liberal attitude. If I want to snort cocaine and give a hooker the high one that is my bussiness and no one else's. Keep those bullshit laws away from me.

jim
03-12-2008, 08:52 AM
Breaking the law. If all the cheaters resigned, the Capitol Building would be empty.

Seriously, for breaking the law. Not for cheating, that is a private matter.

So would all the state houses and city halls:monkey:hotdog

Wabash
03-12-2008, 11:26 AM
Just think...this Democrat was spending $5,000 a month on Pootang of tax payer money......and Larry Craig was looking for freebies! Now THAT folks is hypocrisy! Who's the more evil...the Republican or the Demo? Easy Q. Anyone should be able to get it right!

Wabash
03-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Spitzer spent 10s of thousands of dollars on the Prostitution ring! Yet, it's all in who you know and he is not getting the jail time he so richly deserves!

toxic
03-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Obviously, we are all disapointed he needed to PAY for a little action.

It begs the question, what is wrong with him?????

On the other hand, we are pleased that he is straight.

Wabash
03-12-2008, 02:23 PM
Obviously, we are all disapointed he needed to PAY for a little action.

It begs the question, what is wrong with him?????

On the other hand, we are pleased that he is straight.

Yes...being straight is a Good Quality! I don't know what is wrong with him....maybe being an asshole prosecutor, and most of them that I have met... are, was too much for him.
Not only has he hurt his wife and children immensely, he abused his friendship with many friends and colleagues, all in addition to breaking the laws that he has prosecuted for years....Wild and crazy Sex will do that to a guy....

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 02:46 PM
"Agents of the IRS Criminal Investigation Division initially started a probe, fearing that the governor was the victim of some sort of blackmail scheme or that he was being victimized by an impostor, the sources said."

And that's what's really scary... how dare he develop such close ties and be beholden to an illegal prostitution ring; they could have blackmailed him at any time.

Forget adultery, that's corruption.That was not corruption. The IRS investigated him because they thought that the wire transfers looked like he was taking bribes or laundering money. It turned out that he was using the wires to pay for the prostitutes. That is stupid and illegal but not the type of corruption that the IRS was looking for.

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Just think...this Democrat was spending $5,000 a month on Pootang of tax payer money......I have not seen any allegation that the money used was public funds. The wires were from private or persoanal accounts of Spitzer and not government funds. Johns are usually not charged in these crimes but the bushies may make an exception here and treat Spitzer differently from other people who use hookers.

Viki
03-12-2008, 02:50 PM
That was not corruption. The IRS investigated him because they thought that the wire transfers looked like he was taking bribes or laundering money. It turned out that he was using the wires to pay for the prostitutes. That is stupid and illegal but not the type of corruption that the IRS was looking for.

No, my point is he engaged in a pattern of illegal activity - mob linked - that left him open to blackmail which, if successful, is indeed corruption.

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 02:53 PM
BTW, I have not seen any of the conservatives calling for David Vitter to resign. Remember him? He was the LA republican Senator who paid women to dress him up in diapers and have sex. I guess that it is okay for a republican senator to do this but not a Democratic governor. Luckily Vitter is up for re-election in 2010 and this will come up again.

If the conservatives are so upset about prositutes, then why did not they not comment on the gay male prostitute who was allowed in the White House press room on special press passes from someone senior in the bush administration. This gay prostitute was allowed in on several days when there was no press conferences or gaggles again on the authorization of a senior bushie. Jeff Gannon (the gay male prostitute) was good at asking softball questions for Snotty Scotty and bush.

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 02:56 PM
No, my point is he engaged in a pattern of illegal activity - mob linked - that left him open to blackmail which, if successful, is indeed corruption.Again, there was poor judgment here but there has been no allegations that anyone had blackmailed or attempted to blackmail Spitzer. All johns break the law when they pay for sex but very few face any charges for such actions. Spitzer may recieve different treatment due to the fact that he is a Democrat and the bushies want to pay him back for hurting their friends on Wall Street.

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 02:59 PM
Yes...being straight is a Good Quality! Then why were you not upset when the White House let a gay male prostitute in on special press passes? This male prostitute was even allowed access to the white house on days when there were no press conferences and each such admission required the special authorization from someone in the White House.

Ringo
03-12-2008, 04:12 PM
BTW, I have not seen any of the conservatives calling for David Vitter to resign. Remember him? He was the LA republican Senator who paid women to dress him up in diapers and have sex. I guess that it is okay for a republican senator to do this but not a Democratic governor. Luckily Vitter is up for re-election in 2010 and this will come up again.

If the conservatives are so upset about prositutes, then why did not they not comment on the gay male prostitute who was allowed in the White House press room on special press passes from someone senior in the bush administration. This gay prostitute was allowed in on several days when there was no press conferences or gaggles again on the authorization of a senior bushie. Jeff Gannon (the gay male prostitute) was good at asking softball questions for Snotty Scotty and bush.

Its about the LAW asshole something YOU have little grasp of apparantly!! Trying to make this Bush is cheap for even a low life scum sucker like you!!:sheep:devil

Wabash
03-12-2008, 04:20 PM
I have not seen any allegation that the money used was public funds. The wires were from private or persoanal accounts of Spitzer and not government funds. Johns are usually not charged in these crimes but the bushies may make an exception here and treat Spitzer differently from other people who use hookers.
I'm referring to his "on the Public Clock" escapades...if he did that, then that is defrauding the taxpayers!

BTW, I have not seen any of the conservatives calling for David Vitter to resign. Remember him? He was the LA republican Senator who paid women to dress him up in diapers and have sex. I guess that it is okay for a republican senator to do this but not a Democratic governor. Luckily Vitter is up for re-election in 2010 and this will come up again.

If the conservatives are so upset about prositutes, then why did not they not comment on the gay male prostitute who was allowed in the White House press room on special press passes from someone senior in the bush administration. This gay prostitute was allowed in on several days when there was no press conferences or gaggles again on the authorization of a senior bushie. Jeff Gannon (the gay male prostitute) was good at asking softball questions for Snotty Scotty and bush.
I for one, do not have any problem with prostitutes...I've had my share years ago...that isn't the REAL issue here now, is it doggie?

Again, there was poor judgment here but there has been no allegations that anyone had blackmailed or attempted to blackmail Spitzer. All johns break the law when they pay for sex but very few face any charges for such actions. Spitzer may recieve different treatment due to the fact that he is a Democrat and the bushies want to pay him back for hurting their friends on Wall Street.
Poor judgement MY ASS! He has committed numerous felonies and is the Ultimate hypocritical Democrap! He committed crimes that he has prosecuted others for for decades! He deserves Jail Time!

Then why were you not upset when the White House let a gay male prostitute in on special press passes? This male prostitute was even allowed access to the white house on days when there were no press conferences and each such admission required the special authorization from someone in the White House.
Apples and Orranges here doggie, stop trying to confuse the issue....stay on topic!

Its about the LAW asshole something YOU have little grasp of apparantly!! Trying to make this Bush is cheap for even a low life scum sucker like you!!:sheep:devil
Exactly...but in all his atty. speak, the ambulance chaser attempts to deflect the guilt of one of his buddies!

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 04:40 PM
Its about the LAW asshole ....So you and wabby do not care that a male gay prostitute was given special access to the white house (even on days there were no press events) on bogus press credentials? Jeffie Gannon did provide a service to the bushies by asking bush and Snotty Scotty some amusing softball questions. I guess that you two have no problems with gay prostitutes and are only concerned about hetrosexual illegal sex. After the Democrats get control of the white house, we can investigate and find who granted Gannon his special access.

Yellowdogtexan
03-12-2008, 04:44 PM
I'm referring to his "on the Public Clock" escapades...if he did that, then that is defrauding the taxpayers!This is amusing. Your ignorance about how non-hourly workers live is amusing. The Governor of a state is not an hourly employee but is on a salary. As such, there is no stealing of time and your charge is what one would expect of someone who never worked as a professional.

If you believe this silly claim, then why have you not called for the resignation of Senator Vitter from LA. He is the republican senator who evidently paid prostitutes to dress him up in diapers. If he was subject to the same rules that you are asserting, then he should also resign.

nixon
03-12-2008, 05:56 PM
This is amusing. Your ignorance about how non-hourly workers live is amusing. The Governor of a state is not an hourly employee but is on a salary. As such, there is no stealing of time and your charge is what one would expect of someone who never worked as a professional.

If you believe this silly claim, then why have you not called for the resignation of Senator Vitter from LA. He is the republican senator who evidently paid prostitutes to dress him up in diapers. If he was subject to the same rules that you are asserting, then he should also resign.Yeah Wabs. Yeah Wabs. Yeah Wabs. Take it like a man!!! I know it's hard, but I also know you have it in you!!!!

AYFR
03-12-2008, 06:06 PM
If you believe this silly claim, then why have you not called for the resignation of Senator Vitter from LA. He is the republican senator who evidently paid prostitutes to dress him up in diapers. If he was subject to the same rules that you are asserting, then he should also resign.

Yes he should, and as I recall the GOP as well as talk show hosts on the Rep side called for him to resign.

We could go back and forth on this because Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatric should also resign.

ANY politician that breaks the law OR the trust of the people he is supposed to be elected to represent should resign.

nixon
03-12-2008, 06:18 PM
Yes he should, and as I recall the GOP as well as talk show hosts on the Rep side called for him to resign.

We could go back and forth on this because Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatric should also resign.

ANY politician that breaks the law OR the trust of the people he is supposed to be elected to represent should resign."The trust of the people..."? Bush and Cheney would be long gone!

Capitalist
03-12-2008, 06:33 PM
Then why were you not upset when the White House let a gay male prostitute in on special press passes? This male prostitute was even allowed access to the white house on days when there were no press conferences and each such admission required the special authorization from someone in the White House.

any proof they knew?

Wabash
03-12-2008, 07:33 PM
So you and wabby do not care that a male gay prostitute was given special access to the white house (even on days there were no press events) on bogus press credentials? Jeffie Gannon did provide a service to the bushies by asking bush and Snotty Scotty some amusing softball questions. I guess that you two have no problems with gay prostitutes and are only concerned about hetrosexual illegal sex. After the Democrats get control of the white house, we can investigate and find who granted Gannon his special access.
Hadn't heard about it, certainly sounds wrong to me.....but it doesn't even compare to the Federal crimes that Spitzer has committed!

This is amusing. Your ignorance about how non-hourly workers live is amusing. The Governor of a state is not an hourly employee but is on a salary. As such, there is no stealing of time and your charge is what one would expect of someone who never worked as a professional.

If you believe this silly claim, then why have you not called for the resignation of Senator Vitter from LA. He is the republican senator who evidently paid prostitutes to dress him up in diapers. If he was subject to the same rules that you are asserting, then he should also resign.
I didn't hear about that one either...

Yeah Wabs. Yeah Wabs. Yeah Wabs. Take it like a man!!! I know it's hard, but I also know you have it in you!!!!

Be quiet...you noy me!
Yes he should, and as I recall the GOP as well as talk show hosts on the Rep side called for him to resign.

We could go back and forth on this because Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatric should also resign.

ANY politician that breaks the law OR the trust of the people he is supposed to be elected to represent should resign.
Agreed!

"The trust of the people..."? Bush and Cheney would be long gone!
Prove it nixster...

Wabash
03-12-2008, 07:35 PM
Here ya go doggie...try and stay on topic now...ok?

Experts: Indictments Loom For Spitzer
Disgraced Former Governor Could Face Myriad Of Charges
Reporting
Don Dahler
NEW YORK (CBS) ― Eliot Spitzer's resignation Wednesday spares him and the state the spectacle of an impeachment, but what about an indictment?

It was a rare and unequivocal declaration by U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia: "There is no agreement between this office and Gov. Eliot Spitzer, relating to his resignation or any other matter."

And in Spitzer's own words:

"Over the course of my public life, I've insisted, I think correctly, that people regardless of their position or power take responsibility for their conduct."

But what conduct? And what form will that responsibility take? Legal observers say there's a good chance the governor will be indicted.

"To move funds from one place to the other, to hide the source of the money … it's still going to be money laundering," said John Jay College School of Criminology professor Joseph King.

Experts say "Client 9" could face the following charges:

* Money laundering for trying to conceal the source and recipient of financial transactions.
* Tax evasion, if he was a knowing party to an all-cash business that wasn't filing taxes.
* Violation of the Mann Act for paying for the trip from New York to D.C. by the call girl known as "Kristen."
* Misuse of state resources, if he used his state-issued credit card for hotels or meals with prostitutes as well as if he was being protected by State Troopers during his dalliances.
* And finally, soliciting prostitution.

There's also the question of whether Spitzer used campaign funds for these trysts, which opens up a whole other litany of charges from fraud to federal election violations.

Court documents and published reports indicate perhaps as much as $80,000 were transferred from Spitzer's account to a trio of dummy companies that were fronts for the escort service.

North Fork Bank reportedly grew suspicious when the governor asked that his name be taken off the latest transactions.

The prostitution charge carries the least severe possible sentence. Ironically, one of the first bills Spitzer signed into law raised the penalties for Johns, the men who patronize prostitutes, from a maximum of three months, to now up to a year in jail. Money laundering has a maximum of 20 years.
http://wcbstv.com/politics/eliot.spitzer.prostitution.2.675894.html

And all doggie can do is try and deflect the subject to others....maybe doggie is a client of the same ring?

Trueblue
03-12-2008, 07:39 PM
any proof they knew?

You must not have followed the story. :lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

AYFR
03-12-2008, 07:50 PM
"The trust of the people..."? Bush and Cheney would be long gone!

Ok fine, I still stand by what I said.

Wabash
03-12-2008, 08:13 PM
What we are seeing here folks is an implosion of the Democrats....great entertainment!

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Go Geraldine...you be the Queen!

the next several months ought to be a laugh a minute!

Trueblue
03-12-2008, 08:56 PM
Yeah, three candidates running, and you hate all three. You should have a great time. :D

Wabash
03-12-2008, 09:46 PM
Yeah, three candidates running, and you hate all three. You should have a great time. :D

Here is Spitzer's whore...she ain't even pretty....must be able to suck a golf ball thru a mile of garden hose...or something...

http://www.myspace.com/ninavenetta

Wabash
03-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Yeah, three candidates running, and you hate all three. You should have a great time. :D

As long as we can keep Obie and Hill from the WH, I will be happy...

Wabash
03-13-2008, 01:29 AM
Posted: 03/12/2008

This is a disaster for Hillary Clinton.

According to the wiretaps, New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer was delighted to be getting the prostitute "Kristen" again. At least he knew her name. It took Monica Lewinsky's boyfriend six sexual encounters to remember her name (raising his lifetime average to 8.2).

You know that queasy feeling you get thinking about Bill Clinton back in the White House again? Now you remember why. Hillary Clinton couldn't feel worse about the Spitzer case if she were an actual New Yorker.

Proving that Karl Marx got everything wrong -- more bad news for Hillary -- history is indeed repeating itself, but, contra Marx, the first time as farce, the second time as tragedy. Clinton's scandal was hilarious; Spitzer's is just depressing.

Most people outside of New York can't grasp the enormity of Spitzer's political free fall.

Eliot Spitzer was the golden boy with an absolutely charmed life. His parents were the children of Jewish immigrants, who created a Ralph Lauren lifestyle for their children.

Spitzer's father made half a billion dollars in New York real estate and raised three high-achieving children -- two lawyers and a neurosurgeon. In a family like that, becoming governor of New York makes you the black sheep.

Spitzer went to the best schools -- Horace Mann, Princeton and Harvard Law School. He must have written some good papers.

He lives at the perfect address (Fifth Avenue and 79th St.) with his perfect Harvard Law School-educated Southern Baptist wife -- whose parents must be telling her they told her so right about now -- and their three perfect daughters. (Admittedly, the apartment is a gift from Dad: A mere top-flight education doesn't get you an apartment overlooking Central Park.)

And now Spitzer's entire anal-retentive, good paper-writing life has collapsed in the horrifying image of a frenzied masturbator. This is the most complete coup de grace imaginable, short of an assassin's bullet.

Spitzer's life is ruined. It doesn't matter if he has defenders who will wail, "It's his private life!" It doesn't matter if he fights the charges. It doesn't matter if this was a political prosecution. As Talleyrand said: "It's worse than a crime; it's a blunder."

Eliot Spitzer, Harvard Law graduate and Fifth Avenue denizen, is forevermore: "Client No. 9."

Forget about his career -- those around him better have him on suicide watch. Dudley Do-Right is on tape in a white-knuckle negotiation with pimps about payment for a prostitute. (Let's just be thankful that there's no anti-Semitic expression for Jews haggling about money.)

No one will ever be able to look him in the eye again. How can Spitzer hold a press conference when reporters won't stop giggling at him?

Spitzer can't go to the restaurants he used to frequent. He can't go to the Whitney Museum near his apartment. He can't go to track meets at his daughters' expensive private school. He can't show his face in public.

The golden boy's disgrace is deep and subliminal; it can't be expunged.

One shudders to imagine the sepulchral gloom pervading the Spitzer home this week. At least Hillary would liven the place up with some lamp-throwing.

Whatever Spitzer's flaws, he was a pristine product of wealth and attainment. And he threw away a star-studded life of accomplishment in a wanton, reckless pursuit of sex with prostitutes.

There's no prettifying what Spitzer has done. The Web site of the "Emperor's Club VIP" whorehouse patronized by Spitzer heroically claims the prostitutes -- or "models" -- are chosen for their "level of education, family background, intelligence, personality."

One can almost hear the typical John, heavy-breathing into the phone: "And this one you call 'Busty Betty' -- does she come from a good family? Parents still together? What church do they attend?"

Surprising no one, police wiretaps indicate that the "models" were semi-literate, could not learn to swipe a credit card and seemed invariably to be on drugs. That's what you get for $2,000 an hour in this charming business.

After one prostitute missed an appointment and left a "crazy" text message for one of her pimps, the procurer remarks that the girl is on drugs. It seems, the procurer adds, "a lot of these girls deteriorate to this point."

Behold the "victimless" crime of prostitution. Hard to believe these girls would turn to drugs. Having sex with strangers for money, nothing to live for ... just thinking about it makes me want to take drugs.

It's absurd to talk about Spitzer's problem being "hypocrisy" -- as if everything would be fine if only he had previously advocated legalized prostitution.

It's absurd to talk about "alpha males" and political power -- an alpha male does not bring his family shame and disaster. Who was more alpha than Ronald Reagan? Think he ever had a "whore problem"? This is more like a dog who wee-wees on your leg.

It's absurd to talk about legal defenses. This guy has fallen from the pinnacle of New York society to being a disgrace to his class. He's the Ivy League version of Paris Hilton.

That was always the advantage Clinton had: We never expected any better. He went from Skunk Trot, Ark., to Skunk Trot, Ark. Spitzer fell from Fifth Avenue to Skunk Trot, Ark.
by Ann Coulter
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25481

Trueblue
03-13-2008, 05:28 AM
Ann Coulter :rofl

Viki
03-13-2008, 06:31 AM
Again, there was poor judgment here but there has been no allegations that anyone had blackmailed or attempted to blackmail Spitzer. All johns break the law when they pay for sex but very few face any charges for such actions. Spitzer may recieve different treatment due to the fact that he is a Democrat and the bushies want to pay him back for hurting their friends on Wall Street.

I'm not sure why this isn't communicating - it's such a simple point - no governmental official should engage in a pattern of illegal activity which makes him or her vulnerable to blackmail by anyone, but especially not to the mob and certainly not when the perp has been a prosecutor who has litigated such cases against others.

Sorry this is a no brainer and the most horrific aspect of the crimes he has committed, since I assume his family can take care of themselves.

His job was to take care of the public, not to expose it to the possibility of corruption.

Wabash
03-13-2008, 12:35 PM
Ann Coulter :rofl

Yep...she NAILED it AGAIN!

I'm not sure why this isn't communicating - it's such a simple point - no governmental official should engage in a pattern of illegal activity which makes him or her vulnerable to blackmail by anyone, but especially not to the mob and certainly not when the perp has been a prosecutor who has litigated such cases against others.

Sorry this is a no brainer and the most horrific aspect of the crimes he has committed, since I assume his family can take care of themselves.

His job was to take care of the public, not to expose it to the possibility of corruption.
Excellent post Viki!:paclap:paclap:paclap

Wabash
03-13-2008, 04:54 PM
By Thomas Sowell
March 12, 2008

What was he thinking of? That was the first question that came to mind when the story of New York Governor Eliot Spitzer's involvement with a prostitution ring was reported in the media.

It was also the first question that came to mind when star quarterback Michael Vick ruined his career and lost his freedom over his involvement in illegal dog fighting. It is a question that arises when other very fortunate people risk everything for some trivial satisfaction.

Many in the media refer to Eliot Spitzer as some moral hero who fell from grace. Spitzer was never a moral hero. He was an unscrupulous prosecutor who threw his power around to ruin people, even when he didn't have any case with which to convict them of anything.

Because he was using his overbearing power against businesses, the anti-business left idolized him, just as they idolized Ralph Nader before him as some sort of secular saint because he attacked General Motors.

What Eliot Spitzer did was not out of character. It was completely in character for someone with the hubris that comes with the ability to misuse his power to make or break innocent people.

After John Whitehead, former head of Goldman Sachs, wrote an op-ed column in the Wall Street Journal, criticizing Attorney General Spitzer's handling of a case involving Maurice Greenberg, Spitzer was quoted by Whitehead as saying: "I will be coming after you. You will pay the price. This is only the beginning and you will pay dearly for what you have done."

When you start thinking of yourself as a little tin god, able to throw your weight around to bully people into silence, it is a sign of a sense of being exempt from the laws and social rules that apply to other people.

For someone with this kind of hubris to risk his whole political career for a fling with a prostitute is no more surprising than for Michael Vick to throw away millions to indulge his taste for dog fighting or for Leona Helmsley to avoid paying taxes -- not because she couldn't easily afford to pay taxes and still have more money left than she could ever spend -- but because she felt above the rules that apply to "the little people."

What is almost as scary as having someone like Eliot Spitzer holding power is having so many pundits talking as if this is just a "personal" flaw in Governor Spitzer that should not disqualify him for public office.

Spitzer himself spoke of his "personal" failing as if it had nothing to do with his being governor of New York.

In this age, when it is considered the height of sophistication to be "non-judgmental," one of the corollaries is that "personal" failings have no relevance to the performance of official duties.

What that amounts to, ultimately, is that character doesn't matter. In reality, character matters enormously, more so than most things that can be seen, measured or documented.

Character is what we have to depend on when we entrust power over ourselves, our children and our society to government officials.

We cannot risk all that for the sake of the fashionable affectation of being more non-judgmental than thou.

Currently, various facts are belatedly beginning to leak out that give us clues to the character of Barack Obama. But to report these facts is being characterized as a "personal" attack.

Barack Obama's personal and financial association with a man under criminal indictment in Illinois is not just a "personal" matter. Nor is his 20 years of going to a church whose pastor has praised Louis Farrakhan and condemned the United States in both sweeping terms and with obscene language.

The Obama camp likens mentioning such things to criticizing him because of what members of his family might have said or done. But it was said, long ago, that you can pick your friends but not your relatives.

Obama chose to be part of that church for 20 years. He was not born into it. His "personal" character matters, just as Eliot Spitzer's "personal" character matters -- and just as Hillary Clinton's character would matter if she had any.
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/tsowell/2008/ts_03121.shtml

What a GREAT article!

Trueblue
03-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Wow, the Pubs are really desperate, they have to work in Hillary and Obama into everything. :lmao

Wabash
03-13-2008, 05:08 PM
Wow, the Pubs are really desperate, they have to work in Hillary and Obama into everything. :lmao

Why not????

They are running for the most powerful job in the world...they should be above reproach!

this author is a black guy and is right on the money...Obie and Hill should most certainly be included in everything...Desperate my ass!

Trueblue
03-13-2008, 05:12 PM
Why not????

They are running for the most powerful job in the world...they should be above reproach!

this author is a black guy and is right on the money...Obie and Hill should most certainly be included in everything...Desperate my ass!

Nobody is above reproach.

The Pubs are throwing this in on everything, they have seen the polls and they are desperate.

Wabash
03-13-2008, 05:16 PM
Nobody is above reproach.

The Pubs are throwing this in on everything, they have seen the polls and they are desperate.

This is the same mentality as Bill Clinton had...liberal arrogance and hypocrisy plays out once again!!!!!

Watch for the summer surprise TB.......:LL

Yellowdogtexan
03-13-2008, 06:42 PM
I am waiting for the GOP and Wabby to call for the resignation of David Vitter. http://www.wdsu.com/news/13657113/detail.html Jeanette Maier, known as the Canal Street Madam, claimed Tuesday that Sen. David Vitter visited her Mid-City operation beginning in the mid-1990s.

According to Maier, Vitter would pay $300 an hour for services. She would not disclose how many times he came to the Canal Street home, only saying that it was more than once.....

Vitter acknowledged late Monday night that his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service operated by Deborah Jeane Palfrey, the so-called D.C. Madam.Vitter kept two madams busy with his demands. I love the reports about him dressing in diapers with some of the prostitutes.

Wabash
03-13-2008, 07:00 PM
I am waiting for the GOP and Wabby to call for the resignation of David Vitter. http://www.wdsu.com/news/13657113/detail.htmlVitter kept two madams busy with his demands. I love the reports about him dressing in diapers with some of the prostitutes.

And how many laws has he broken? Money laundering, Fraud, Theft, Racketeering, Interstate Flight....which is it doggie? I'd say none of the above...what about you?
I said yesterday that I could care less about somebody's sexual proclivities.....what laws has he violated?

Wabash
03-13-2008, 07:11 PM
You libs just hate it when one of your golden boys gets nailed huh?
The piece by Sowell is nothing short of excellent and I think America is in a mess! Not all from Bush, but from fucked up liberal attitudes, arrogance and hypocrisy. Std. fare actually!

nixon
03-13-2008, 07:20 PM
You libs just hate it when one of your golden boys gets nailed huh?
The piece by Sowell is nothing short of excellent and I think America is in a mess! Not all from Bush, but from fucked up liberal attitudes, arrogance and hypocrisy. Std. fare actually!The man resigned. He handed in his resignation in shame. What more is it that you like? Perhaps if he cut himself, he could start bleeding yellow. Would you be pleased then? Let me finish off by saying this, at least the man liked pussy. Pussy is to fuck. Fuck pussy. Nixon.

AYFR
03-13-2008, 07:30 PM
He broke the law and should do the time.

nixon
03-13-2008, 07:48 PM
He broke the law and should do the time.I'll agree with you on that. Send him to jail. George Ryan (Illinios Gov.) and him can share a cell.

Wabash
03-13-2008, 07:53 PM
The man resigned. He handed in his resignation in shame. What more is it that you like? Perhaps if he cut himself, he could start bleeding yellow. Would you be pleased then? Let me finish off by saying this, at least the man liked pussy. Pussy is to fuck. Fuck pussy. Nixon.
Pussy is Great...breaking the law isn't!

I'll agree with you on that. Send him to jail. George Ryan (Illinios Gov.) and him can share a cell.
Yep, Gerri Ryan's X....she is soooooooo HOT!

nixon
03-13-2008, 08:04 PM
Pussy is Great...breaking the law isn't!


Yep, Gerri Ryan's X....she is soooooooo HOT!Wabs, I maybe wrong, but I always thought Republicans liked their pussy on a stick. Kinda like Larry Craig or Mark Foley or Bob Allen.

Wabash
03-13-2008, 08:51 PM
Wabs, I maybe wrong, but I always thought Republicans liked their pussy on a stick. Kinda like Larry Craig or Mark Foley or Bob Allen.

Yep, you have several misconceptions I have noted...but, I will do my best to help with your education and you may even help me out! Just reminding me of Jerri Ryan gave me a hard on....:rofl:rofl

Trueblue
03-14-2008, 06:45 AM
Billy Crystal fulfilled a dream yesterday by playing for the Yankees. He said his next big dream is to be governor of New York. :lmao

Ringo
03-15-2008, 05:30 AM
Wabs, I maybe wrong, but I always thought Republicans liked their pussy on a stick. Kinda like Larry Craig or Mark Foley or Bob Allen.

I'm going out on the limb, but Nickers, do you watch a lot of Porn and post here while being naked?? You sound awfully sexually frustrated, and you have all the Gay terminology down pretty good too??:nerd:mw:LL

TB would normally tell you we are dealing with NOW, but since you are a Liberal, attacking Conservatives, she plays stupid...hmmm maybe she is not pl.....???:mw:mw