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Well - Hillary won these two in the Democratic primaries. I can see some possible far reaching results...What do Y'All think???:mw
One thing I can think it MIGHT mean is that some folk this morning are having much more serious talks about a Clinton/Obama ticket ... now in THAT order.
In my opinion that's the ticket that can NOT lose.
cassandra
03-05-2008, 10:00 AM
So interesting, do you think Clinton would take Obama along, simply because she wants to win.
So interesting, do you think Clinton would take Obama along, simply because she wants to win.
Oh, yeah, because she REALLY wants to win :)
toxic
03-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Obama won the Texas Caucus by around 10%, so that should give him an about an equal number (maybe more) of delegates to Clinton from Texas. One woman admitted to me she was really an Indepentant, but wanted to vote for Hillary. A guy told me he had voted for Bush, so he was probably a Republican who had just come to sabotage the Democrats. To me, it is hard to say which candidate will do the worst in the General Election. So if I was a sabatoeur I don't know who I would have voted for.
I understand that Hillary wants to bitch about how the Caucus was handled, and lack of preparedness by non-professional Democratic Party Faithful volunteers. That should make her very unpopular with a whole bunch of hardworking people.
I understand that Hillary wants to bitch about how the Caucus was handled, and lack of preparedness by non-professional Democratic Party Faithful volunteers. That should make her very unpopular with a whole bunch of hardworking people.
People, mostly the media, keeps hoping so, but somehow her popularity keeps increasing with ALL groups - with the understandable exceptions of African American and very youthful voters (under 30).
Capitalist
03-05-2008, 12:43 PM
One thing I can think it MIGHT mean is that some folk this morning are having much more serious talks about a Clinton/Obama ticket ... now in THAT order.
In my opinion that's the ticket that can NOT lose.
It is also a ticket that is not possible.
The ego's involved are so big i don't kniw if the ambition can override it.
I see no way it could be Obama / Clinton.
That woman, Ms. Clinton would not play second fiddle again. She has already played second fiddle to Bill for most of her adult life.
I also don't see why Obama would want to be VP under Clinton? Then he is hostage to her policies and programs. Whether he agrees with what she does or not he would have to own them and then anything bad that happens during the next 4 (or god forbis 8) years (if she wins) attaches to him in a pissible run of his own in 4 or 8 years.
Capitalist
03-05-2008, 12:44 PM
People, mostly the media, keeps hoping so, but somehow her popularity keeps increasing with ALL groups - with the understandable exceptions of African American and very youthful voters (under 30).
With all groups of democrats, not all groups.
With all groups of democrats, not all groups.
Wrong again... last night she won the independents who voted in the democratic primaries.
toxic
03-05-2008, 04:00 PM
Wrong again... last night she won the independents who voted in the democratic primaries.
In the caucus, she appears to have only won 7 of 31 of the Districts. (They are still counting.) She is winning only the Mexican/NAFTA Districts that border with Mexico/Rio Grande and West Texas.
I think the common element there is the anti-Black vote. They probably cannot suggest that on network/cable news.
Capitalist
03-05-2008, 04:13 PM
Wrong again... last night she won the independents who voted in the democratic primaries.
So, she also won the republicans who voted in the dem primary just to fuck things up.
Independenta like to vote where it will make a difference.
The republican race has been decided for a couple of weeks.
Indenpendents don't like big government or high taxes. in the end they usually vote their pocket books, that won't be a democrat.
Capitalist
03-05-2008, 04:14 PM
In the caucus, she appears to have only won 7 of 31 of the Districts. (They are still counting.) She is winning only the Mexican/NAFTA Districts that border with Mexico/Rio Grande and West Texas.
I think the common element there is the anti-Black vote. They probably cannot suggest that on network/cable news.
I think many hispanics are racist and would never vote for a black.
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