A CALL FOR UNITY

[issac the dragon]

Gloria Steinam and Patricia Williams wrote this:

"Can't we all just get along? could have been the mantra of this power breakfast - though certainly not forever, nor for all purposes. Just long enough to roust the Republican rascals. The oil barons and Enron fraudsters and pre-emptive warmongers and sadistic torture masters and trigger-happy anti-abortionists and Blackwater mercenaries and the tribal extremists of various religious stripes who seem to look forward to Armageddon finally segregating humanity into true believers and recalcitrant, disposable trash."

Amen to that sisters. I am willing to go anywhere with these women.

[Indy]

No, we can't all 'just get along.'

[cassandra]

Gloria Steinam and Patricia Williams wrote this:

"Can't we all just get along? could have been the mantra of this power breakfast - though certainly not forever, nor for all purposes. Just long enough to roust the Republican rascals. The oil barons and Enron fraudsters and pre-emptive warmongers and sadistic torture masters and trigger-happy anti-abortionists and Blackwater mercenaries and the tribal extremists of various religious stripes who seem to look forward to Armageddon finally segregating humanity into true believers and recalcitrant, disposable trash."

Amen to that sisters. I am willing to go anywhere with these women.

Only if we could figure out and agree on who those people are . . . . so then no, not so much.

[Saguaro]

I have said it before, but I will not vote for someone based on their sex. I want to know what they will do for the US

[April15]

I have said it before, but I will not vote for someone based on their sex. I want to know what they will do for the USI don't mean to sound stupid but are you inferring that getting screwed is somehow better than getting head? I don't think it would make any difference as I never feel anything but used.

[Saguaro]

:think

[Wabash]

Gloria Steinam and Patricia Williams wrote this:

"Can't we all just get along? could have been the mantra of this power breakfast - though certainly not forever, nor for all purposes. Just long enough to roust the Republican rascals. The oil barons and Enron fraudsters and pre-emptive warmongers and sadistic torture masters and trigger-happy anti-abortionists and Blackwater mercenaries and the tribal extremists of various religious stripes who seem to look forward to Armageddon finally segregating humanity into true believers and recalcitrant, disposable trash."

Amen to that sisters. I am willing to go anywhere with these women.
While there is some accuracy to their statements, their overall premise is flawed and very liberal.....My wife asked if I'd bail her out if she ever lost her temper and cold cocked one of these so called Americans? I said: You Bet!

No, we can't all 'just get along.'
Exactly...it is not man's nature to get along with everyone...or woman's either...

I don't mean to sound stupid but are you inferring that getting screwed is somehow better than getting head? I don't think it would make any difference as I never feel anything but used.

April, it's a two way street...do your share....:rofl:rofl

[jim]

Gloria Steinam and Patricia Williams wrote this:

"Can't we all just get along? could have been the mantra of this power breakfast - though certainly not forever, nor for all purposes. Just long enough to roust the Republican rascals. The oil barons and Enron fraudsters and pre-emptive warmongers and sadistic torture masters and trigger-happy anti-abortionists and Blackwater mercenaries and the tribal extremists of various religious stripes who seem to look forward to Armageddon finally segregating humanity into true believers and recalcitrant, disposable trash."

Amen to that sisters. I am willing to go anywhere with these women.

We will have to get along after some decent fashion - or Armageddon!!:godzilla:brr

[Ringo]

We will have to get along after some decent fashion - or Armageddon!!:godzilla:brr

I don't think I would want to be standing next to the likes of SteinMAN if Armageddon was imminent?? God didn't make her plumbing suitable to pissin over a barbed wire fence, but she TRIES anyway!!

Jim the ONLY ones who listen to these bitch's are control freak women, who think they were harmed by Man!! Never heard a PEEP out of them when Juanita Broderick, Flowers, Tripp or Monica were being savaged by the Clinton Mob and the Media?? Hypocrite bitch's, female couterparts of Kennedy-Clinton-Gore and other sadists!!!:sheep:devil:pblade:mw

[toxic]

I have said it before, but I will not vote for someone based on their sex (or race). I want to know what they will do for the US

I added the parenthetical words above to Sag's comment.

Too bad more don't feel like you Sag. If they did, we would have got a candidate choice that had a chance in hell of winning the general election.

Both of these "front runners" are going to be vunerable as hell, because they are from the fring of the Democratic Party.

I think the NEW YOUNG VOTERS that Obama appeals to ARE DIFFERENT from the past.

They never considered military service or anything else as their responsibility, so those things don't matter to them. The most urgent task they have accomplished is answering their Cell Phone. A rhyming "I had a dream" speach is sufficient. I'll be curious to see how or if they vote.

I already know how the selfish old women who are dissatisfied with their life choices will vote.

[issac the dragon]

I didn't do a very good job when I posted that. Patricia Williams is a black woman supporting Obama. Steinam is supporting Clinton. The plea to get along is that we not forget what we are for and against, whoever we are supporting.

Women's rights will not endure another Republican president. We will all be chattel when the next Republican appoints another SC justice. That is the sisterhood I was in agreement with them on. Not whether or not I voted for a specific canidate. We need to stay focused as women, because we have so much to lose.

[Wabash]

I added the parenthetical words above to Sag's comment.

Too bad more don't feel like you Sag. If they did, we would have got a candidate choice that had a chance in hell of winning the general election.

Both of these "front runners" are going to be vunerable as hell, because they are from the fringe of the Democratic Party.

I think the NEW YOUNG VOTERS that Obama appeals to ARE DIFFERENT from the past.

They never considered military service or anything else as their responsibility, so those things don't matter to them. The most urgent task they have accomplished is answering their Cell Phone. A rhyming "I had a dream" speach is sufficient. I'll be curious to see how or if they vote.

I already know how the selfish old women who are dissatisfied with their life choices will vote.

I Agree!:clap:clap

I didn't do a very good job when I posted that. Patricia Williams is a black woman supporting Obama. Steinam is supporting Clinton. The plea to get along is that we not forget what we are for and against, whoever we are supporting.

Women's rights will not endure another Republican president. We will all be chattel when the next Republican appoints another SC justice. That is the sisterhood I was in agreement with them on. Not whether or not I voted for a specific canidate. We need to stay focused as women, because we have so much to lose.
Well issac...I know several women, wife and daughter included, that have not been impacted by Bush and Co. either way.
In addition, President Bush has had several very competent women in his cabinet and appointed to other jobs.
In addition to all that, I don't see how another conservative SC judge is going to be a detriment....

[Trueblue]

I added the parenthetical words above to Sag's comment.

Too bad more don't feel like you Sag. If they did, we would have got a candidate choice that had a chance in hell of winning the general election.

Both of these "front runners" are going to be vunerable as hell, because they are from the fring of the Democratic Party.

I think the NEW YOUNG VOTERS that Obama appeals to ARE DIFFERENT from the past.

They never considered military service or anything else as their responsibility, so those things don't matter to them. The most urgent task they have accomplished is answering their Cell Phone. A rhyming "I had a dream" speach is sufficient. I'll be curious to see how or if they vote.

I already know how the selfish old women who are dissatisfied with their life choices will vote.

toxic, I often enjoy your posts but I've seldom seen a poster with such a knee-jerk antipathy towards women. You just assign us the most base motives and refer to us in demeaning terms at every opportunity. I know plenty of people who voted for Hillary and they are not a bunch of selfish old women who are dissatisfied with their life choices.

These candidates are not defined by their race or gender except in the minds of the biased, IMO. Those who are determined to vote against any black person or any female person are focused on these superficial characteristics, not the rest of us.

In head-to-head matchups, Obama beats Mc:cane, and Hillary is in a statistical tie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

In the big group of candidates, I was for Biden. I also really liked Richardson and Dodd. Three old white men. When they dropped out, I had to think carefully whether I would choose Obama or Clinton. My husband and sons voted for Obama, my parents voted for Clinton, and my MIL voted for Obama.

[issac the dragon]

I liked Bill Richardson too. I though he was very qualified to be president. Obviously, most Democrats didn't agree. I like some things about both canidates running, and some I don't. But I will vote for one of them.

We all know that if the Republicans appoint another 'white male christian, probably Catholic, to the SC, there will be no abortion rights, and probably few birth control choices. Title 9 will be blown out of the water, and equal pay for equal work will be gone. It nearly is now. A woman must know that the man who is hired to do the same job is making more than her. If she doesn't find out for weeks, it is too late to complain.

I worked in union jobs and non-union. When I worked non-union, it was a fireable offence to discuss what we were paid with one another. So how would a woman find out she wasn't getting equal pay? NO. Just another Republican idea of equal rights. They exist only on paper. We don't need another Republican president.

[Ringo]

toxic, I often enjoy your posts but I've seldom seen a poster with such a knee-jerk antipathy towards women. You just assign us the most base motives and refer to us in demeaning terms at every opportunity. I know plenty of people who voted for Hillary and they are not a bunch of selfish old women who are dissatisfied with their life choices.

These candidates are not defined by their race or gender except in the minds of the biased, IMO. Those who are determined to vote against any black person or any female person are focused on these superficial characteristics, not the rest of us.

In head-to-head matchups, Obama beats Mc:cane, and Hillary is in a statistical tie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

In the big group of candidates, I was for Biden. I also really liked Richardson and Dodd. Three old white men. When they dropped out, I had to think carefully whether I would choose Obama or Clinton. My husband and sons voted for Obama, my parents voted for Clinton, and my MIL voted for Obama.

If I were looking for you in the Phonebook, would I need to look under McWimp?? Change change, change!!!!!!!

What change?? Er...I don't know, the sheep go nuts when I say it, but hell they are easy...especially the ones from TN, Texas & Norway!!!:sheep:pblade:mw

Biden...good god TB the jerks a Racist idiot...grow up!!!:devil

[Capitalist]

Gloria Steinam and Patricia Williams wrote this:

"Can't we all just get along? could have been the mantra of this power breakfast - though certainly not forever, nor for all purposes. Just long enough to roust the Republican rascals. The oil barons and Enron fraudsters and pre-emptive warmongers and sadistic torture masters and trigger-happy anti-abortionists and Blackwater mercenaries and the tribal extremists of various religious stripes who seem to look forward to Armageddon finally segregating humanity into true believers and recalcitrant, disposable trash."

Amen to that sisters. I am willing to go anywhere with these women.

Well since they are both old as hell, I hope you follow them...

[Capitalist]

I didn't do a very good job when I posted that. Patricia Williams is a black woman supporting Obama. Steinam is supporting Clinton. The plea to get along is that we not forget what we are for and against, whoever we are supporting.

Women's rights will not endure another Republican president. We will all be chattel when the next Republican appoints another SC justice. That is the sisterhood I was in agreement with them on. Not whether or not I voted for a specific canidate. We need to stay focused as women, because we have so much to lose.

So tell me, specifically, what rights have women lost in the last 7 years?

Oh, I know one, the right to give the president a blow job in the oval office seems to be off the table when the president is a republican.

Any others?

[Capitalist]

I liked Bill Richardson too. I though he was very qualified to be president. Obviously, most Democrats didn't agree. I like some things about both canidates running, and some I don't. But I will vote for one of them.

I could live with Richardson. I can't with the 2 left standing. I am curious what you don't like about them.



We all know that if the Republicans appoint another 'white male christian, probably Catholic, to the SC, there will be no abortion rights, and probably few birth control choices.

You do understand that if the SC overturns Roe V Wade, the only thing that will hapopen is that the individual states will decide if abortion stays legal. I don't think any state (except maybe Utah) would actually outlaw it. So either your lying or you don't understand the nature of the problem.

Title 9 will be blown out of the water,

Title 9 should be blown out of the water, but I doubt that would happen.


and equal pay for equal work will be gone.

I would love to see the rational for that statement. Your really going off the deep end now.

It nearly is now. A woman must know that the man who is hired to do the same job is making more than her. If she doesn't find out for weeks, it is too late to complain.

If a man and a woman have the same skills, education and experience they get the same pay.

I worked in union jobs and non-union. When I worked non-union, it was a fireable offence to discuss what we were paid with one another. So how would a woman find out she wasn't getting equal pay? NO. Just another Republican idea of equal rights. They exist only on paper. We don't need another Republican president

You have any proof that that is a republican idea?

It is discouraged to talk about how much you are paid because it ALWAYS causes problems.

You seem to be very bitter about being a woman???

Tell me, how many times have you been on a date and paid for everything?

Do you ever let a man open a door for you, or lift something heavy for you?

[toxic]

toxic, I often enjoy your posts but I've seldom seen a poster with such a knee-jerk antipathy towards women. You just assign us the most base motives and refer to us in demeaning terms at every opportunity. I know plenty of people who voted for Hillary and they are not a bunch of selfish old women who are dissatisfied with their life choices.

These candidates are not defined by their race or gender except in the minds of the biased, IMO. Those who are determined to vote against any black person or any female person are focused on these superficial characteristics, not the rest of us. ...


Well, I have a bit of experience with self-serving actions of incompetent Women and Blacks in the workplace. I have watched it in college, the military and my professional career.

I have tolerated the fucking bullshit of promoting incompetent Blacks and Women over highly qualified men for decades. But, I don't have to stand by quietly anymore.

Sometimes that qualified man was me, sometimes I had to tell other men, that some fucking usless slut was going to get promoted over them. As my profession shifted from 99% White Male to 50+% Black and Women, every WHITE guy got a lot less for their effort than they deserved.

Now we have pushed the Affirmative Action crapola up to the top jobs in the world. How is it working out?

Dana Perino doesn't know what the Cuban missile crisis was.
Condi Rice is the biggest fucking failure and non-performer of any of the women.
Madline Albright was no better.
Margret Thacher got 6 ships sunk in just a few weeks and was losing the war, till the USA helped.
Golda Mier was tossed out of office within months after her performance.

Hillary hasn't done shit and will probably have a cock in her mouth when the phone rings in the WhiteHouse at 3:00 AM.

Bo Jangles Obama is only qualified to write rhyming lyrics and will be jumping through hoops for the real people that are in control.

I have spared you the "classic" examples of underachiever Women in my life.

[Capitalist]

Hillary hasn't done shit and will probably have a cock in her mouth when the phone rings in the WhiteHouse at 3:00 AM.

Not unless Huma has a strapon.

[April15]

Well, I have a bit of experience with self-serving actions of incompetent Women and Blacks in the workplace. I have watched it in college, the military and my professional career.

I have tolerated the fucking bullshit of promoting incompetent Blacks and Women over highly qualified men for decades. But, I don't have to stand by quietly anymore.

Sometimes that qualified man was me, sometimes I had to tell other men, that some fucking usless slut was going to get promoted over them. As my profession shifted from 99% White Male to 50+% Black and Women, every WHITE guy got a lot less for their effort than they deserved.

Now we have pushed the Affirmative Action crapola up to the top jobs in the world. How is it working out?

Dana Perino doesn't know what the Cuban missile crisis was.
Condi Rice is the biggest fucking failure and non-performer of any of the women.
Madline Albright was no better.
Margret Thacher got 6 ships sunk in just a few weeks and was losing the war, till the USA helped.
Golda Mier was tossed out of office within months after her performance.

Hillary hasn't done shit and will probably have a cock in her mouth when the phone rings in the WhiteHouse at 3:00 AM.

Bo Jangles Obama is only qualified to write rhyming lyrics and will be jumping through hoops for the real people that are in control.

I have spared you the "classic" examples of underachiever Women in my life.

Does this mean you have been discriminated?
As for hillery having a cock in her mouth at 3 AM one can only wonder whose it would be!

[Wabash]

I know this for sure...many women cannot handle the freight, when paid the same as a man!

In many jobs, there is woman's work and man's work. Some are better suited for one type of job and vice versa.
In short, many men can't do a job as well as a woman and many women can't do a job as well as a man.
Being in law enforcement for 25 plus years, I saw plenty of females that needed to be carried by a male officer, in order to fulfill their job duties. Most of them do well at the paper work, some drive ok, some can even shoot, but......when it came time for taking down a perp, they usually needed a man's help, or the job wouldn't get done. Yet, they got the same pay. Many were retained purely because they were women and the agency was afraid of a law suit if they terminated them for failure to perform.
So, here's the poor male officer, that has to worry about himself in violent situations, and....worry about his female partner.
I watch Law and Order often...I don't know why, it's got huge liberal bias, and they show these women doing macho stuff and I just LMAO, knowing full well, that a lib has written the script!

[Ringo]

Not unless Huma has a strapon.

Check with Newsy and see if he has some film on that will ya??:ohyeah:pisslaugh

[Ringo]

I know this for sure...many women cannot handle the freight, when paid the same as a man!

In many jobs, there is woman's work and man's work. Some are better suited for one type of job and vice versa.
In short, many men can't do a job as well as a woman and many women can't do a job as well as a man.
Being in law enforcement for 25 plus years, I saw plenty of females that needed to be carried by a male officer, in order to fulfill their job duties. Most of them do well at the paper work, some drive ok, some can even shoot, but......when it came time for taking down a perp, they usually needed a man's help, or the job wouldn't get done. Yet, they got the same pay. Many were retained purely because they were women and the agency was afraid of a law suit if they terminated them for failure to perform.
So, here's the poor male officer, that has to worry about himself in violent situations, and....worry about his female partner.
I watch Law and Order often...I don't know why, it's got huge liberal bias, and they show these women doing macho stuff and I just LMAO, knowing full well, that a lib has written the script!

Its like Saving Grace, I mean c'mon if any Cop acted like she does they would be gone from a real life Force!!

[toxic]

Does this mean you have been discriminated? ...


Oh no ... I'm just NOT receiving AFFIRMATIVE ACTION like the other 70% of the people are getting. Sure the result is the same, but if you are not in a protected class, you can't be discriminated against. :)

Discrimination ... In one breath they will say people over 40 years of Age or even with Veteran status are protected, but you know of course, those laws (like illegal immigration) are not enforced.

When we were kids, I figured, hey fine ... I can help rectify some injustice done in the past. But after 40 years of getting screwed, I'm tired of it.

Few of the people I figured deserved help got it anyway. Instead, help went mostly to weathly attractive Ivy League girls/women who like to screw their boss and never needed to work anyway. Generally, the poor beat down woman was bypassed.

I think AFFIRMATIVE ACTION has screwed up the workplace. I even see young men who have just given up, because they know no matter how good they do, they will be bypassed.

Selecting a President this way is just insane.

[Trueblue]

Well, I have a bit of experience with self-serving actions of incompetent Women and Blacks in the workplace. I have watched it in college, the military and my professional career.

I have tolerated the fucking bullshit of promoting incompetent Blacks and Women over highly qualified men for decades. But, I don't have to stand by quietly anymore.

Sometimes that qualified man was me, sometimes I had to tell other men, that some fucking usless slut was going to get promoted over them. As my profession shifted from 99% White Male to 50+% Black and Women, every WHITE guy got a lot less for their effort than they deserved.

Now we have pushed the Affirmative Action crapola up to the top jobs in the world. How is it working out?

Dana Perino doesn't know what the Cuban missile crisis was.
Condi Rice is the biggest fucking failure and non-performer of any of the women.
Madline Albright was no better.
Margret Thacher got 6 ships sunk in just a few weeks and was losing the war, till the USA helped.
Golda Mier was tossed out of office within months after her performance.

Hillary hasn't done shit and will probably have a cock in her mouth when the phone rings in the WhiteHouse at 3:00 AM.

Bo Jangles Obama is only qualified to write rhyming lyrics and will be jumping through hoops for the real people that are in control.

I have spared you the "classic" examples of underachiever Women in my life.

Geez, I can't imagine why you have trouble with women IRL. :twitch

[toxic]

Not unless Huma has a strapon.

I had to read about her.

Well, Hillary has better taste than Bill or at least a better understanding of what a woman will do for expensive shoes.

http://gto7.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/huma_hillary.jpg

[Trueblue]

Ringo, if I were looking for you in the Phonebook, would I need to look under McWimp?? Change change, change!!!!!!!

What change?? Er...I don't know, the sheep go nuts when I say it, but hell they are easy...especially the ones from the barn.

Thompson...good god Ringo the jerks a Racist idiot...grow up!!!:devil

[toxic]

Geez, I can't imagine why you have trouble with women IRL. :twitch

Who said I have trouble with women?

Women think I'm entertaining. I just don't talk about Affirmative Action if I'm trying to get laid.

That is NA on the internet.

[Trueblue]

I have spared you the "classic" examples of underachiever Women in my life.

I was referring to this statement.

[Wabash]

Oh no ... I'm just NOT receiving AFFIRMATIVE ACTION like the other 70% of the people are getting. Sure the result is the same, but if you are not in a protected class, you can't be discriminated against. :)

Discrimination ... In one breath they will say people over 40 years of Age or even with Veteran status are protected, but you know of course, those laws (like illegal immigration) are not enforced.

When we were kids, I figured, hey fine ... I can help rectify some injustice done in the past. But after 40 years of getting screwed, I'm tired of it.

Few of the people I figured deserved help got it anyway. Instead, help went mostly to weathly attractive Ivy League girls/women who like to screw their boss and never needed to work anyway. Generally, the poor beat down woman was bypassed.

I think AFFIRMATIVE ACTION has screwed up the workplace. I even see young men who have just given up, because they know no matter how good they do, they will be bypassed.

Selecting a President this way is just insane.
Great post!!!!:paclap:paclap:paclap

Geez, I can't imagine why you have trouble with women IRL. :twitch
I can...I can really identify with what he says!

I had to read about her.

Well, Hillary has better taste than Bill or at least a better understanding of what a woman will do for expensive shoes.

http://gto7.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/huma_hillary.jpg
Whose the good looking babe next to Hillary?
Ringo, if I were looking for you in the Phonebook, would I need to look under McWimp?? Change change, change!!!!!!!

What change?? Er...I don't know, the sheep go nuts when I say it, but hell they are easy...especially the ones from the barn.

Thompson...good god Ringo the jerks a Racist idiot...grow up!!!:devil
Mickey Thompson was no racist! Besides, it's not nice to speak about the dead like that....