View Full Version : $2 million homes burn in 'act of terror,' developer says
Wabash
03-03-2008, 02:34 PM
Enviro Whackos strike again!
(CNN) -- Fire engulfed five luxury homes Monday morning at a subdivision north of Seattle in what could be a case of ecoterrorism, officials said.
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A sign with the letters "ELF" was found at the scene of the fires in the "Street of Dreams" development in Woodinville, Washington, said Chief Rick Eastman of Snohomish County Fire District No. 7.
Eastman did not say if the sign is believed to be from the Earth Liberation Front, which the FBI has called an ecoterrorist group.
"Built green? Nope black!" the sign reads, according to an image from CNN affiliate KING-TV in Seattle. The sign calls the homes "McMansions."
John Heller, president of Seattle Street of Dreams, said he had spoken to the fire chief and was told that the fires were suspicious. Video Watch fires burn luxury homes »
"My understanding is that it was an act of terror," Heller said.
The FBI said the fires are being investigated as an act of domestic terrorism.
Heller said he was out of town on business and was rushing back to see what was left of the development. He said it was a new subdivision that featured luxury homes priced at $2 million.
Video footage showed large grayish white plumes of smoke billowing in the air and firefighters trying to contain blazes in large homes in a heavily wooded area.
Eastman said there had been no injuries and there were no suspects. He told KING-TV that police and agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were investigating.
Seattle's Street of Dreams is "the most popular and highest attended single site luxury home and garden tour in the U.S.," according to the event's Web site.
According to the FBI, the Earth Liberation Front claimed responsibility for burning five townhomes under construction on November 20, 2005, in Hagerstown, Maryland. Fire officials investigating the scene determined that kerosene was used as the accelerant in the arson, the FBI said.
Last year, 10 people, including self-proclaimed members of the ELF and members of another organization called the Animal Liberation Front, were convicted for a string of arson fires that totaled more than $40 million in damage, according to an August statement by the U.S. Justice Department.
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At that time, the court case was called the "largest ecoterrorism case in U.S. history," according to the statement.
Three others charged in the case are at large and considered international fugitives by the Justice Department.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/03/03/seattle.fire/index.html
Saguaro
03-03-2008, 04:19 PM
This is absolutely disgusting ! How dare they burn those houses !
Capitalist
03-03-2008, 04:24 PM
This is absolutely disgusting ! How dare they burn those houses !
They consider it a good thing and I bet they don't vote for republicans either.
Wabash
03-03-2008, 04:30 PM
They consider it a good thing and I bet they don't vote for republicans either.
I doubt these morons vote at all...but if they do...they sure wouldn't be voting Republican. The US just got one of these turds back from Canada and he is on trial in Portland now on a separate crime.........
nixon
03-03-2008, 05:07 PM
I doubt these morons vote at all...but if they do...they sure wouldn't be voting Republican. The US just got one of these turds back from Canada and he is on trial in Portland now on a separate crime.........He was Republican. He was caught having sex with another Republican in the closet. His crime, you ask? He is guilty of the worst crime of all. A HYPOCRIT.
issac the dragon
03-03-2008, 08:34 PM
Say what? He is on trial for arson. I have read nothing about any sex. What are you talking about?
Wabash
03-03-2008, 08:44 PM
He was Republican. He was caught having sex with another Republican in the closet. His crime, you ask? He is guilty of the worst crime of all. A HYPOCRIT.
Oh nix stop running your mouth...
Say what? He is on trial for arson. I have read nothing about any sex. What are you talking about?
He's running his mouth and talking out his ass at the same time! Must be one of his bosom buddies on trial!
toxic
03-03-2008, 08:52 PM
I guess if you want to collect insurance or are pissed at a contractor, just burn the houses and then scrawl ELF or KKK or something on a remanent and throw the investigators off track. Everyone wants to cry 'terrorism".
April15
03-03-2008, 09:17 PM
It is a little much if you ask me. There must be safer ways to get a message across.
Wabash
03-03-2008, 09:20 PM
I guess if you want to collect insurance or are pissed at a contractor, just burn the houses and then scrawl ELF or KKK or something on a remanent and throw the investigators off track. Everyone wants to cry 'terrorism".
These guys have done millions of dollars in damage, here in the NW since 1990...they are a menace! They ARE terrorists, some of the first, operating in this country in recent years!
The firemen also found explosive devices in the rubble....the houses were booby trapped and they were allowed to burn to the ground for that reason!
The fires show the trademark of these Enviro Whackos!
Ringo
03-04-2008, 08:59 AM
The only PC way of handling these little COWARDLY PUNKS is for every AMERICAN to have them in their Cross Hairs!! Somebody knows something, as I know these types they can't help themselves, they need to BRAG, to be recognized, similar to the Al Qadea!
Putting these punks on Trial only gives them and asshole Trial Lawyer a shot at exposure, sensationalism, and a recruiting venue for other sexually repressed punks, who have Arson Orgasm's!! SHOOT THE BASTARDS, get rid of them once and for all!!:godzilla:godzilla
toxic
03-04-2008, 10:49 AM
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The fires show the trademark of these Enviro Whackos!
That's why ANYONE could and would select their logo and operating methods to throw the investigation OFF-TRACK.
Everyone is responding emotionally to the case.
Perhaps you haven't heard that sometimes people who commit crimes aren't who they claim to be.
Ringo
03-04-2008, 04:24 PM
That's why ANYONE could and would select their logo and operating methods to throw the investigation OFF-TRACK.
Everyone is responding emotionally to the case.
Perhaps you haven't heard that sometimes people who commit crimes aren't who they claim to be.
Are you thinking maybe someone got in over their ass and foreclosure was close, so arson was a way out? I suspect a good Fire Marshall, an Insurance Investigator and a decent Cop with some experience will sort it out?
Capitalist
03-04-2008, 04:34 PM
I guess if you want to collect insurance or are pissed at a contractor, just burn the houses and then scrawl ELF or KKK or something on a remanent and throw the investigators off track. Everyone wants to cry 'terrorism".
So you don't think this was ELF?
Capitalist
03-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Are you thinking maybe someone got in over their ass and foreclosure was close, so arson was a way out? I suspect a good Fire Marshall, an Insurance Investigator and a decent Cop with some experience will sort it out?
These homes were to part of a showcase of homes. What is interesting is that they were built 'green' to have a lower carbon footprint.
ELF ? Earth liberation front?
Liberate from what? People? If they think they maybe they should take the eternal dirt nap.
Wabash
03-04-2008, 07:36 PM
That's why ANYONE could and would select their logo and operating methods to throw the investigation OFF-TRACK.
Everyone is responding emotionally to the case.
Perhaps you haven't heard that sometimes people who commit crimes aren't who they claim to be.
Of course I have, but I don't think that is the case here...not from what the preliminary investigators have said...
Are you thinking maybe someone got in over their ass and foreclosure was close, so arson was a way out? I suspect a good Fire Marshall, an Insurance Investigator and a decent Cop with some experience will sort it out?
Exactly!
These homes were to be part of a showcase of homes. What is interesting is that they were built 'green' to have a lower carbon footprint.
ELF ? Earth liberation front?
Liberate from what? People? If they think they maybe they should take the eternal dirt nap.
If I had em in my crosshairs, I'd liberate their sorry asses. I'm not sure about the law in Wa., but here in Oregon, deadly force may be used by any citizen defending their property from an arsonists.....
I can't condone it - But I think it is one of the signs of the times:brr
Trueblue
03-05-2008, 06:36 AM
It's spelled "terra".
$2 million homes burn in 'act of terra,' developer says
Ringo
03-05-2008, 06:58 AM
It's spelled "terra".
$2 million homes burn in 'act of terra,' developer says
You and Alphonse kind of get off on these creeps TB? Greenie Goons, and ANYONE who uses FIRE is a pure ass COWARD son of a bitch, as many innocents can die in a hurry, not to mention the damned explosives, that could have nailed First Responders!!!
I hope they rot in HELL and some CITIZEN dispatch's their ass there Early!!!:mw:pblade:devil
Trueblue
03-05-2008, 07:03 AM
You and Alphonse kind of get off on these creeps TB? Greenie Goons, and ANYONE who uses FIRE is a pure ass COWARD son of a bitch, as many innocents can die in a hurry, not to mention the damned explosives, that could have nailed First Responders!!!
I hope they rot in HELL and some CITIZEN dispatch's their ass there Early!!!:mw:pblade:devil
Have you considered an adult literacy program? You just cannot read.
Either that, or you just need way too much attention. There is help for that, too.
nixon
03-05-2008, 08:15 AM
Another act of terrorism. How many since 9-11?
Ringo
03-07-2008, 08:57 AM
Have you considered an adult literacy program? You just cannot read.
Either that, or you just need way too much attention. There is help for that, too.
Oh my the Liberal, (I AM SO MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU DISEASE!!:mw:mw it fits you so well TB!!! Little girl I have a full Social calender, I meet people you only dream about, I don't give out these details, as they are confidential! You wouldn't believe who was up here antelope hunting last year, he used to do a lot a recording in your hometown, until the fat cats sold him out??
Just don't tell me what I need to do in regards to these PUNKS, as they gave up their RIGHTS, when they declared WAR on the Citizenry!! You can now return to your Nancy Drew Mysteries, while I finish up In Search of Lost Time, by Marcel Proust!
patriotsblade
03-07-2008, 09:12 AM
Have you considered an adult literacy program? You just cannot read.
Either that, or you just need way too much attention. There is help for that, too.
Oh my the Liberal, (I AM SO MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU DISEASE!!:mw:mw it fits you so well TB!!! Little girl I have a full Social calender, I meet people you only dream about, I don't give out these details, as they are confidential! You wouldn't believe who was up here antelope hunting last year, he used to do a lot a recording in your hometown, until the fat cats sold him out??
Just don't tell me what I need to do in regards to these PUNKS, as they gave up their RIGHTS, when they declared WAR on the Citizenry!! You can now return to your Nancy Drew Mysteries, while I finish up In Search of Lost Time, by Marcel Proust!
Today's Date = Moderated Forum. There are other forums for :deadshot with each other.
Ringo
03-08-2008, 09:13 AM
OK lets get civilized then, and find these Punk bastards and kick the living piss out of them and turn them over to the cops!! Remember they are only brave when they have a match and a can of gas! I doubt their are many women in the group as these guys probably ejaculate seeing the fire, so a hot babe has little influence on their libido!!:sheep:hulk
Trueblue
03-08-2008, 09:37 AM
Little Boy Ringo, the only reason that I think that you cannot read is that you repeatedly say that I, and others, have said things that we did not say. Nobody "gets off" on these arsonists and it is wrong for you to suggest such things about people.
This is either a game that you play, or you really think that people say things in their posts that they never said or even thought. Therefore, either you need a lot of attention and your comments about a full social calendar are imaginary, or you have a reading problem. I don't care which one it is, I am going to point it out when you say this bullshit about me.
nixon
03-08-2008, 09:46 AM
OK lets get civilized then, and find these Punk bastards and kick the living piss out of them and turn them over to the cops!! Remember they are only brave when they have a match and a can of gas! I doubt their are many women in the group as these guys probably ejaculate seeing the fire, so a hot babe has little influence on their libido!!:sheep:hulkCan you tell me how kicking the piss out of someone is getting civilized? When you were young, did you fall down and hit your head really hard?
Ringo
03-08-2008, 01:58 PM
Can you tell me how kicking the piss out of someone is getting civilized? When you were young, did you fall down and hit your head really hard?
Nah, I think maybe stepping up in weight for the Golden Gloves in Tulsa, caused me to get my bell rung a few times, but I got over that? You see any reason that PUNKS shouldn't get their ass kicked, or are you for the RE-HAB programs and group hugs?? What about the VICTIMS??
nixon
03-08-2008, 04:01 PM
Nah, I think maybe stepping up in weight for the Golden Gloves in Tulsa, caused me to get my bell rung a few times, but I got over that? You see any reason that PUNKS shouldn't get their ass kicked, or are you for the RE-HAB programs and group hugs?? What about the VICTIMS?? I think once you kick the piss out of someone, then they too become the victim. Isn't that how it works, or am I fucked-up? Violence will only beget more violence. If you don't think so, take the Iraq war as an example, did we get greeted as liberators or have we created more animosity and chaos?
Semantics
03-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Developers are losing millions of dollars on homes that aren't selling now that the bottom has fallen out of the market.
Burning the houses down and blaming it on the ELF sounds like a probable scenario to me. :shrug
Developers are losing millions of dollars on homes that aren't selling now that the bottom has fallen out of the market.
Burning the houses down and blaming it on the ELF sounds like a probable scenario to me. :shrug
You got it!!!:deadshot
Ringo
03-09-2008, 04:13 PM
Developers are losing millions of dollars on homes that aren't selling now that the bottom has fallen out of the market.
Burning the houses down and blaming it on the ELF sounds like a probable scenario to me. :shrug
Welcome back to as Disneyland Spins Semi!! You could be accurate, but we will see, as they have very scientific methods these days for discovery!
nixon
03-09-2008, 04:30 PM
Welcome back to as Disneyland Spins Semi!! You could be accurate, but we will see, as they have very scientific methods these days for discovery!It's called beating a confession out of an innocent victim.
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