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AYFR
02-27-2008, 07:08 PM
Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.
Michelle Obama
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjljYjA3YTYzMjU2ZjA5Yzg1MmM2YjIzZjEyN2ZjZjk=
Umm what if people like their lives as usual? What if the don't want out of their confort zones?
Where in the USC does it give the president this power?
What about freedom?

issac the dragon
02-27-2008, 07:32 PM
Exactly what is he going to do? Is this like JFK saying we had to give something to our country? I don't remember ever being asked to do anything. Just took care of my kids and hubsand. What is going to happen?

AYFR
02-27-2008, 08:40 PM
Guess Michelle Obama is not much on personal freedom. :shrug

issac the dragon
02-27-2008, 08:49 PM
That was a stupid thing to say and I'll bet she wished she could rip out her tongue seconds after that came out. And I'll bet she has speech writers now.

AYFR
02-27-2008, 08:52 PM
That was a stupid thing to say and I'll bet she wished she could rip out her tongue seconds after that came out. And I'll bet she has speech writers now.

Seems to me that the spouses of the Dem Candidates are not helping their partners any.

Saguaro
02-27-2008, 08:56 PM
Stop and think about what she said

AYFR
02-27-2008, 09:12 PM
I have, plus I have read the transcript and heard the speech.

How else do you intrepret.
Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism.
AND
Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

Believe it or not some people want to stay ignorant.

Saguaro
02-27-2008, 10:12 PM
Maybe she should have said Obama will make you care about America again

AYFR
02-27-2008, 10:22 PM
How can Obama MAKE you do anything

Saguaro
02-27-2008, 10:24 PM
Geeez Rev, didn't you listen to Hillary ? She said the sky will open up and this light will come down ?

Matt
02-27-2008, 11:14 PM
Sounds like an inspirational speech from the likes of Reagan.

Rev, where did you read the transcript of the entire speech?
I am only finding blogs that are definitely biased and giving excerpts.

Wabash
02-28-2008, 12:20 AM
Exactly what is he going to do? Is this like JFK saying we had to give something to our country? I don't remember ever being asked to do anything. Just took care of my kids and hubsand. What is going to happen?
JFK didn't say we HAD to give, he said "Ask Not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country."

That was a stupid thing to say and I'll bet she wished she could rip out her tongue seconds after that came out. And I'll bet she has speech writers now.
She does...the little lady is now under control! :LL

Seems to me that the spouses of the Dem Candidates are not helping their partners any.
Fo Sho....

I have, plus I have read the transcript and heard the speech.

How else do you intrepret.
Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism.
AND
Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

Believe it or not some people want to stay ignorant.
It is what it is! A problem spouse...

Maybe she should have said Obama will make you care about America again
Be best if she just shut her trap!

Geeez Rev, didn't you listen to Hillary ? She said the sky will open up and this light will come down ?
Now....think how many stooges actually believe that and will vote on that premise!

AYFR
02-28-2008, 07:04 AM
Sounds like an inspirational speech from the likes of Reagan.

Rev, where did you read the transcript of the entire speech?
I am only finding blogs that are definitely biased and giving excerpts.

Here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYXDYjHtsG8

Sorry those sites might be biased BUT they match the words from her speech.

Here is a site that breaks down the speech (yes it is biased)
http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=11135

Trying to find where I found the full transcript. It took me forever to find it yesterday.

If it is not true then why hasn't Media Matters spoke up yet?

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 08:17 AM
I have, plus I have read the transcript and heard the speech.You have issues understanding abstract concepts. I still remember your silliness when you could not understand the transcript of the radio program where rush called any solider who disagreed with the war in Iraq a phony solider. In connection with the context of answering with and agreeing with a caller and in context of the prior caller who rush called a phony republican because he did not agree with the war in Iraq, rush clearly called any solider who disagreed with the war in Iraq a phony soliders.

You appear to have a language processing disorder that they warn about for people taking the LSAT in that you are unable to understand abstract concepts and you take things literally when that is not appropriate. Some people who are otherwise bright can not process abstract concepts and are too literal to deal with advanced concepts. You would not do well on the LSAT or in law school due to the way you process language and deal with abstract concepts.

This is an inspiration message but evidently went over your head. Luckily most of the american public also is not having trouble understanding Senator Obama's message and are not having the silly problem that you are.

BTW, most of the 40+ Democratic Senators who signed the letter to rush were lawyers who had no trouble understanding what rush said.

AYFR
02-28-2008, 01:40 PM
I heard and understood the whole speech and untill that point I thought it was a great speech. There is no context that chages the meaning of what she said.
Had McCains wife said this you would be all over it and him.

You seem to have a problem seprating yourself from fantasy and reality. Not to mention the inability to see things with an open and unbiased point of view.

Had a rep candidates wife said this I would still have posted the same exact thing.

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 02:19 PM
I heard and understood the whole speech and untill that point I thought it was a great speech. There is no context that chages the meaning of what she said.People process abstract concepts differently and there are real difference between how liberal and conservatives process such concepts. http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showpost.php?p=190064&postcount=5 You also were unable to understand the rush insult to a majority of our troops who disagree with the war in Iraq even though to me there was no question about what rush said.

As for the quote that you object to, I googled it. You are in good company with Glenn Beck and bill Kristol objecting to the speech. Again conservatives have trouble understanding complex or abstract concepts as evidenced by their comments. Here is a nice response to a piece of crap from Kristol had in his article that may help you understand the intent of the quote in question. http://thebluevoice.blogspot.com/2008/02/touchy-touchy.htmlPersonally, I'd rather talk theology in church than in a political meeting. But haven't the Republicans been griping for years that Democrats hate religion, or look down on religious people, or some such alleged failing? So why should Republicans find the occasional evangelical phrase from a candidate's spouse as being threatening?

For that matter, the phrases as excerpted by Kristol in your quotation could suggest a more conservative interpretation (in the theological sense) that humanity suffers from Orginal Sin (see St. Paul, St. Augustine) and that government can address only a part of our needs. Honestly, I haven't been studying the texts of Ms. Obama's speeches for such clues, and I have no idea whether she or her husband share an Augustinian view of the inclination of the heart to sin.

Also, "Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed,” at least taken in the limited context of the Kristol quote here, may lean a bit toward purple prose in its style. But it doesn't really suggest anything more to me than that she thinks Barack will inspire people to be more involved and engaged with public affairs. That sounds like a straightforward quality of responsible citizenship to me. Has the idea citizens of a republic should be involved and informed about public affairs become a strictly "liberal" ideological notion now?I see nothing wrong with Mrs. Obama's terminology or the quote you cited. I see it as intending people to inspire peole to be more involved with government and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion. I do not mind some religion mixed in my politics and we should try to inspire people to do what is right which means getting involved in our government and you are free to disagree with this opinion.

If you want you can backtrack to kristol's crappy attack by going to the link on this article.