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Yellowdogtexan
02-25-2008, 08:28 PM
This is amusing. The GOP is spending some bucks testing how far it can go and not be considered to be either racist or sexist. I love the new GOP code word for being racist or sexist-“undisciplined messaging.” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8659.htmlTop Republican strategists are working on plans to protect the GOP from charges of racism or sexism in the general election, as they prepare for a presidential campaign against the first ever African-American or female Democratic nominee.

The Republican National Committee has commissioned polling and focus groups to determine the boundaries of attacking a minority or female candidate, according to people involved. The secretive effort underscores the enormous risk senior GOP operatives see for a party often criticized for its insensitivity to minorities in campaigns dating back to the 1960s.

The RNC project is viewed as so sensitive that those involved in the work were reluctant to discuss the findings in detail. But one Republican strategist, who asked that his name be withheld to speak candidly, said the research shows the daunting and delicate task ahead.

Republicans will be told to “be sensitive to tone and stick to the substance of the discussion” and that “the key is that you have to be sensitive to the fact that you are running against historic firsts,” the strategist explained.

In other words, Republicans should expect a severe backlash if they say or do anything that smacks of politicizing race or gender. They didn’t need an expensive poll to learn that lesson, however.

They could simply have asked Joe Biden, John Edwards, Bill Clinton or any number of Democratic politicians who stung over their choice of words in this campaign already.

GOP officials are certain their words will be scrutinized ever more aggressively. They anticipate a regular media barrage of accusations of intolerance – or much worse.

They seem most concerned about Obama right now.

“You can’t run against Barack Obama the way you could run against Bill Clinton, Al Gore or John Kerry,” said Jack Kemp, the 1996 GOP vice presidential nominee, who expressed concern that the party could be reduced to an “all white country club party” if it does not tread cautiously.

“Being an African American at the top of the ticket, if he makes it, is such a great statement about the country,” he added, “Obviously you have to be sensitive to issues that affect urban America. …You have to be careful.”

GOP operatives have already coined a term for clumsy rhetoric: “undisciplined messaging.” It appears as a bullet point in a Power Point presentation making the rounds among major donors, party leaders and surrogates. The presentation outlines five main strategic attacks against an Obama candidacy, with one of them stating how “undisciplined messaging carries great risk.”

“Republicans will need to exercise less deafness and more deftness in dealing with a different looking candidate, whether it is a woman or a black man,” Republican strategist Kellyanne Conway said. “But at the same time, really charge back at any insinuation or accusation of sexism or racism.

“You can’t allow the party to be Macaca-ed,” she continued, referring to a much-publicized remark made by former GOP Sen. George Allen that played a significant role in his 2006 defeat. “I think the standards are higher and the bar is lower for the Republican Party.” This project is so very amusing to me. The GOP is built on racism and bigotry. The GOP Southern Strategy was all about the GOP being racist but now the GOP is going to have to learn some new tricks. This is going to be fun to watch.

issac the dragon
02-25-2008, 09:11 PM
Racism and bigotry has for many years played a large part in Republican strategy. To be credible they need to make equality a prominent part fo the party platform. And to make very clear to the bigots of all kinds that they are not welcome. And perhaps the Democrats should do the same thing, even though they make a lot of noise about equal rights. I think it would make the Republicans feel better.

But more important than words are actions. Kick the creeps out of either party if they come up with bigoted words or actions. Bigotry is so un-American it should be no more tolerated than saying "I hate America." Words to end one's political life by.

Yellowdogtexan
02-26-2008, 08:34 AM
Countdown last night had an interesting spin on this study by the gop. The GOP want to use racial attacks on Senator Obama really really bad and just want to see how far they can go. That is consistent for a party that has been using Nixon's Southern Strategy for the last 40 years.

The core base of the GOP are a bunch of racists and haters and the GOP is going to figure some way to play to this base.

Capitalist
02-26-2008, 10:03 AM
This is amusing. The GOP is spending some bucks testing how far it can go and not be considered to be either racist or sexist. I love the new GOP code word for being racist or sexist-“undisciplined messaging.” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8659.htmlThis project is so very amusing to me. The GOP is built on racism and bigotry. The GOP Southern Strategy was all about the GOP being racist but now the GOP is going to have to learn some new tricks. This is going to be fun to watch.


Bullshit, the party is built on the freedom and the constitution, something you leftists have to continually figure out how to get around. The racism and sexism comes from the lefts constant drumbeat of lies.

Try actually discussin an issue instead of pontificating it to death.

Saguaro
02-26-2008, 10:37 AM
:roll

Capitalist
02-26-2008, 10:40 AM
Racism and bigotry has for many years played a large part in Republican strategy. To be credible they need to make equality a prominent part fo the party platform. And to make very clear to the bigots of all kinds that they are not welcome. And perhaps the Democrats should do the same thing, even though they make a lot of noise about equal rights. I think it would make the Republicans feel better.

But more important than words are actions. Kick the creeps out of either party if they come up with bigoted words or actions. Bigotry is so un-American it should be no more tolerated than saying "I hate America." Words to end one's political life by.

Actually the strategy comes in the use of that lie by the democrats to keep minorities on their plantation.

Yellowdogtexan
02-26-2008, 11:09 AM
Bullshit, the party is built on the freedom and the constitution,...
It appears that you are ignorant of the GOP Southern Strategy and the use of race by the GOP to gain power in the South. Let me educate you so that you understand why the GOP likes using racism to win. http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:I0ZuIfSlKm8J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy+gop+%22southern+strategy%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=usThe phrase Southern strategy was coined by Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips.[1] In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."[2]
While Phillips was concerned with polarizing ethnic votings in general, and not just with winning the white South, this was by far the biggest prize yielded by his approach. Its success began at the presidential level, gradually trickling down to statewide offices, the Senate and House, as legacy segregationist Democrats retired or switched to the GOP. The strategy suffered a brief apparent reversal following Watergate, with broad support for the racially progressive Southern Democrat, Jimmy Carter in 1976. But with Ronald Reagan kicking off his 1980 presidential campaign proclaiming support for "states' rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the site of the murder of three civil rights workers in 1964's Freedom Summer, the Southern Strategy was back to stay. Although another Southern Democrat, Bill Clinton, would twice be elected President, winning a handful of Southern states, he did better outside the South, and would have won without carrying any Southern State.[citation needed]

From 1948 to 1984 the Southern states, traditionally a stronghold for the Democrats, became key swing states, providing the popular vote margins in 1960, 1968 and 1976. During this era, several Republican candidates expressed support for states' rights, which was a signal of opposition to federal civil rights legislation for blacks.[3]

Recently, the term has been used in a more general sense, in which cultural themes are used in an election — primarily but not exclusively in the American South. In the past, phrases such as "busing" or "law and order" or "states' rights" were used as code words. Today, appeals largely focus on cultural issues such as gay marriage, abortion, and religion. Yet, the use of the term, and its meaning and implication, are still hotly disputed.The GOP has relied on racism and racial fears of Southern bigots for a long time. In fact the chairman of the GOP actually tried to apologize for the Southern Strategy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302342.htmlIt was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was "wrong."

"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
Again, the use of racial polarization has been an accepted gop tactic for a long time. That is why the GOP is polling and doing focus groups to see how far they can push their normal racism.

I hope that this history lesson will help.

Ringo
02-26-2008, 12:15 PM
This is amusing. The GOP is spending some bucks testing how far it can go and not be considered to be either racist or sexist. I love the new GOP code word for being racist or sexist-“undisciplined messaging.” http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8659.htmlThis project is so very amusing to me. The GOP is built on racism and bigotry. The GOP Southern Strategy was all about the GOP being racist but now the GOP is going to have to learn some new tricks. This is going to be fun to watch.


Yea damned Republicans like GEORGE WALLACE, BYRD, FULLBRIGHT, STROM THURMOND, AL GORE SR, damned Right Wing racists!!! Then there was Bull Conner, remember him Mr Brilliance, I will let you Google him, as I doubt you know much beyond Google anyway!!

Screw the damned Race card, if Obama's an asshole come out and say it, as MOST of the Racism these days comes from the Black side anyway!!:akbar:sparks

Yellowdogtexan
02-26-2008, 01:03 PM
ringo, those who are ignorant about history are doomed to repeat it. You really should learn the history about your own party.

Then again, if you paid attention to history you would have to stop posting stupid claims that have been debunked such as the vince foster and china campaign donations silliness

issac the dragon
02-26-2008, 03:35 PM
I hope the GOP rethinks that. It would be tragic for this country. It asways has been. I am sure they can get all the leverage they need just saying Barack Hussein Obama. I listened to it this morning from a talk show host speaking for McCain. At least McCain had the good sense and morals to disown what the man said. But there is this cynical part of me that thinks it was all a plan. A sneaky Republican plan.

Capitalist
02-26-2008, 03:44 PM
ringo, those who are ignorant about history are doomed to repeat it. You really should learn the history about your own party.

Then again, if you paid attention to history you would have to stop posting stupid claims that have been debunked such as the vince foster and china campaign donations silliness

Tell me, what party was Al Gore Sr. in?

Then tell me if he voted for or against the civil rights act?

Then tell me if you think William Fullbright was a racist?

Then see if you can tell me who Bill Clintons mentor was?

And finally, what party was Mr. Full bright in?

Then you can shut your fing mought and go home.

issac the dragon
02-26-2008, 04:20 PM
Your problem is you live in the past. Like McCain. I don't care what happened 50 years ago. Today, the Republicans have a chance to rise above the racism of the past. To make it perfectly clear to the bigots that the Republican party rejects racism today. You are merely trying to make up excuses for them not doing that.

Yellowdogtexan
02-26-2008, 05:21 PM
This is truly disgusting. A pundit is giving mccain some advice as to how to beat Senator Obama including playing the race card. http://thepage.time.com/halperin’s-take-ways-mccain-can-beat-obama-that-clinton-cannot/The McCain campaign is staffed with savvy, experienced operatives who have closely watched the rise of Obama, and they have learned from Clinton’s failure to take down her Democratic rival.

Things McCain can do when running against Obama that Clinton has been unable to do well or at all:

1. Play the national security card without hesitation.

2. Talk about the Iraq War without apologies or perceived contradiction.

3. Go at Obama unambiguously from the right.

4. Encourage interest groups, bloggers, and right-leaning media to explore Obama’s past.

5. Make an issue of Obama’s acknowledged drug use.

6. Allow some supporters to risk being accused of using the race card when criticizing Obama......

8. Play dirty without alienating his party.This is going to be a dirty and racist campaign. The gop is the party of racists and the Southern Strategy. The fact that the GOP is already polling and conducting focus groups on this issue is very telling.

Capitalist
02-26-2008, 05:29 PM
Your problem is you live in the past. Like McCain. I don't care what happened 50 years ago. Today, the Republicans have a chance to rise above the racism of the past. To make it perfectly clear to the bigots that the Republican party rejects racism today. You are merely trying to make up excuses for them not doing that.

I am doing nothing of the kind.

Living in the past? N please.

I am no the one talking about wrongs committed before I was born.

I will not discrinate against anyone because of their race or gender. I reserve the right to do so for any other reason i choose.

I refuse to accept responsibility for anything i have not directly done.

I do not accept that wanting to keep my own GD earnings is racist or evil or greedy.

I do not accept that not being a socialist makes me a racist.

I do not accept that telling the truth is EVER wrong.

I do not accept (except when it can get me fired) that certain words are off limits because they may offend someone.

Freedom is freedom whether it is offensive or not.

We are seeing the rise of leftist/liberal facism.

Ringo
02-26-2008, 05:31 PM
ringo, those who are ignorant about history are doomed to repeat it. You really should learn the history about your own party.

Then again, if you paid attention to history you would have to stop posting stupid claims that have been debunked such as the vince foster and china campaign donations silliness

You r definitioon of DEBUNKED is COVERED UP!! Good God idiot you going to deny the CHI COMS donated to CLINTONS 96 campaign?

Are you going to DENY Klan Ties to Byrd, Thurmond, Fulbright and Wallace? Will you deny Bull Conner was a Dem, who turned his dogs, guns and firehoses on Blacks in Birmingham??

Foster was only one of 19 suspicious Deaths tied to Bonnie & Clyde Clinton, via the Dixie Mafia and CHICOMS!!!:devil:devil:devil:devil

Trueblue
02-26-2008, 05:45 PM
Your problem is you live in the past. Like McCain. I don't care what happened 50 years ago. Today, the Republicans have a chance to rise above the racism of the past. To make it perfectly clear to the bigots that the Republican party rejects racism today. You are merely trying to make up excuses for them not doing that.

Well said.

Yellowdogtexan
02-26-2008, 05:52 PM
Your problem is you live in the past. Like McCain. I don't care what happened 50 years ago. Today, the Republicans have a chance to rise above the racism of the past. To make it perfectly clear to the bigots that the Republican party rejects racism today. You are merely trying to make up excuses for them not doing that.Good post. I hope that the GOP changes its tactics and goes against its history but given posters like cappy, I would not count on it.

Yellowdogtexan
02-26-2008, 06:44 PM
Either McCain is playing a game or there may be some hope for this election. McCain repudiated the comments of a right wing hate radio host concerning Senator Obama. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/02/mccain_disavows_comments_about.phpMcCain wasn't on stage nor in the building when Cunningham made the comments, but he quickly distanced himself from them and the talk show host after finishing his speech. McCain spoke to a couple hundred people at Memorial Hall in downtown Cincinnati.

"I apologize for it," McCain told reporters, addressing the issue before they had a chance to ask the Arizona senator about Cunningham's comments.

"I did not know about these remarks but I take responsibility for them. I repudiate them," he said. "My entire campaign I have treated Senator Obama and Senator (Hillary Rodham) Clinton with respect. I will continue to do that throughout this campaign.

McCain called both Democrats "honorable Americans" and said "I want to dissociate myself with any disparaging remarks that may have been said about them."

Asked whether the use of Obama's middle name — the same as former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein — is proper, McCain said: "No, it is not. Any comment that is disparaging of either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is totally inappropriate."

McCain said he didn't know who decided to allow Cunningham to speak but said he was sure it was in coordination with his campaign. He said he didn't hear the comments and has never met Cunningham, but "I will certainly make sure that nothing like that happens again.This sounds like the old McCain from the 2000 campaign. Maybe he still has a little bit of his soul left and this may not be a racist campaign. Senator Obama's campaign thanked McCain for this gesture. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/obama_camp_thanks_mccain_and_a.phpThe Obama campaign is now publicly thanking John McCain for distancing himself from derogatory comments made by Ohio talk-radio host Bill Cunningham at a campaign event. While the crowd was waiting for McCain to arrive, Cunningham declared among other things that the media would soon "peel the bark off Barack Hussein Obama" and find out the truth about his "sweetheart deals" in Chicago.

"I did not know about these remarks but I take responsibility for them. I repudiate them," McCain told reporters. "My entire campaign I have treated Senator Obama and Senator Clinton with respect. I will continue to do that throughout this campaign."

"We appreciate Senator McCain’s remarks," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton, in a statement. "It is a sign that if there is a McCain-Obama general election, it can be intensely competitive but the candidates will attempt to keep it respectful and focused on issues."
I love posting postive comments about republicans (it is just that it is hard to find anything positve to say about repubicans at times). Here, I applaude Senator McCain and I am a little hopeful that the race will not be as racist as I feared.

Yellowdogtexan
02-27-2008, 07:26 PM
This is interesting. Rove is telling the GOP not to rely on racist tactics against Senator Obama. http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/rove_dont_hussein_obama_1.phpNo less an authority figure than Karl Rove has warned Republican operatives from demagoguing Barack Obama's middle name.

At a closed door meeting of GOP state executive directors in late January, Rove said the safest way to refer to Obama would be to use his honorific, "Sen. Obama."

"The context was, you're not going to stimatize this guy. You shouldn't underestimate him," one of the executive directors said. Rove said that the use of "Barack Hussein Obama" would perpetuate the notion that Republicans were bigoted and would hurt the party.

Rove also said that Republicans should refer to Hillary Clinton as "Sen. Clinton," rather than "Hillary."

Right wing figures are set to ignore Rove's advice. Rush Limbaugh used Obama's middle name more than a year ago, and Ann Coulter regularly uses the middle name, once calling him "President Hussein." So does Michael Savage, who once asked whether Obama was a "so-called friendly Muslim" or one more "radical."Unfortunately the racists and bigots in the GOP are not listening to Rove.http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/tennessee_gop_smears_obama_wit.phpTwo days ago, the Tennessee Republican Party put out a press release entitled "Anti-Semites For Obama," accusing "Barack Hussein Obama" of being anti-Israel and linked to Louis Farrakhan. And just to sweeten the deal, they included the picture of Obama in native African clothing...

State party chair Robin Smith defended the release to the Knoxville News Sentinel, despite the fact that John McCain has asked his supporters not to use such attacks in the wake of the Bill Cunningham flap.

"John McCain has to be elected. Robin Smith doesn't," Smith said. "We have a duty to inform the Republican base."See also http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/27/gop-strategist-obama-nee_n_88763.htmlThis was the backdrop for a discussion of the matter on MSNBC. Republican analyst Cheri Jacobus, initially stuck up for McCain, noting that the candidate was not on hand during Cunningham's remarks and adding that she thought that "[it was] nice that he apologized."

From there, however, the discussion went right off the rails, with Jacobus accusing the Obama campaign of being "thin-skinned" (this despite the fact that the Obama campaign's reaction was simply to offer their thanks to McCain - Bill Burton stated yesterday "It is a sign that if there is a McCain-Obama general election, it can be intensely competitive but the candidates will attempt to keep it respectful and focused on issues."). From there, Jacobus only got several degrees more ridiculous, insisting, "[Obama] has this middle name. Why doesn't he address it and get it out of the way?"

But what's to address? His parents gave him a middle name back in 1961, which, decades later, coincidentally ended up being the same as the last name of a dictator with whom the United States went to war. Is Jacobus suggesting there was some sort of secret plan hatched by Obama's psychic parents forty-seven years ago to provide a minor stumbling block to his presidential ambitions? And hey, Saddam Hussein was a U.S. ally as recently as 1983 - does this mean, for twenty or so years, Obama was the type of person that Donald Rumsfeld would shake hands with? Given the inherent racism and bigotry of the GOP, I expect this to be a nasty race. Bigots and racists can not help themselves.

issac the dragon
02-27-2008, 07:38 PM
I think Obama needs to deal with it too. And the picture. The problem, if it is one, isn't going to disappear. Nor is the problem with Obama's followers. They respond to every thing said about him as though god had been attacked. They need to get real. They are going to see some awful things put out there by the swiftboaters. And so would Clintonians.

Capitalist
02-27-2008, 07:44 PM
It appears that you are ignorant of the GOP Southern Strategy and the use of race by the GOP to gain power in the South. Let me educate you so that you understand why the GOP likes using racism to win. http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:I0ZuIfSlKm8J:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy+gop+%22southern+strategy%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=usThe GOP has relied on racism and racial fears of Southern bigots for a long time. In fact the chairman of the GOP actually tried to apologize for the Southern Strategy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302342.htmlAgain, the use of racial polarization has been an accepted gop tactic for a long time. That is why the GOP is polling and doing focus groups to see how far they can push their normal racism.

I hope that this history lesson will help.

That crap has been alleged for years. It is no different than you democrats lying to blacks to get their votes.

Besides racism is far worse in the north where it is hidden. At least the racist in the south are right out front with it.

But I am sick of asswipes like you constantly claiming that any deviation from the socialist line is imherently racist.

It is not racist to be a conservative but it is stupid for anyone of any intellect to be a socialist.

Capitalist
02-27-2008, 07:46 PM
This is truly disgusting. A pundit is giving mccain some advice as to how to beat Senator Obama including playing the race card. http://thepage.time.com/halperin’s-take-ways-mccain-can-beat-obama-that-clinton-cannot/This is going to be a dirty and racist campaign. The gop is the party of racists and the Southern Strategy. The fact that the GOP is already polling and conducting focus groups on this issue is very telling.

We don't have to do any of that, Hillera is already doing most of it for us. Tell me, does that make Hillera a racist?

Yellowdogtexan
02-27-2008, 08:02 PM
That crap has been alleged for years. It is no different than you democrats lying to blacks to get their votes.Your ignorance is amusing. The GOP Southern Strategy is real and is part of the history of the GOP. You may want to try reading the thread and material posted. BTW, Ken Mehlman (he was the Chairman of the GOP) has actually apologized for the GOP Southern Strategy (again you may want to learn to read any you would have seen this post).

The Democrats do not have to lie to get black votes. The racism and the bigotry of the GOP does not that for us. If you want proof, go look in the mirror.

issac the dragon
02-27-2008, 09:11 PM
For sure. Racist and sexist. And homophobic. Thats Capitalist. Everything that keeps the Republicans from being a majority party. There are more non-whites and women in the country than bigots. Why can't the Republicans figure that out?

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 08:39 AM
The RNC has told the Tenn. bigots in the Tennessee republican party to back off. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0208/RNC_warns_Tenn_GOP_on_Hussein.htmlThe Republican National Committee this afternoon scolded the Tennessee Republican Party over their use of "Barack Hussein Obama" in an official press release and warned the state party that they will be denounced by the national committee if they use the Democrat's middle name again, said a GOP official close to the RNC.

"The RNC has notified the Tennessee GOP that they do not support or agree with their approach," said this source, requesting anonymity to discuss the private conversation between a staffer in the national committee's political department and a top aide at the state party. "If they don't refrain from doing so again, they will be publicly repudiated by the Republican National Committee."

This source said the national committee did not ask the Tennessee party to retract their statement, but effectively put them on notice for the future.

Monday, Tennessee GOP spokesman Bill Hobbs penned a press release attacking Obama on Israel, using his Muslim-sounding middle name in the process.

"The Tennessee Republican Party today joins a growing chorus of Americans concerned about the future of the nation of Israel, the only stable democracy in the Middle East, if Sen. Barack Hussein Obama is elected president of the United States," Hobbs wrote.

The Tennessee GOP chairwoman, Robin Smith, stood by Hobbs yesterday, saying that they "have a duty to inform the Republican base" and pointing out that the state party wasn't working for McCain.

Asked if Republicans appreciated the public relations headaches this was causing John McCain, their likely nominee, the source quickly replied: "Yes, that's why they let people know that this is exactly what they should not be doing.

McCain spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker noted that her candidate condemned the press release and apologized to Obama. It was the second time he had to do so in as many days.

"There will be times in this campaign where people do and say stupid things," Hazelbaker said. "It's a fact and it's beyond our control."

"We will continue to condemn [such comments] in the strongest language possible and reitterate our commitment to running a positive campaign based on the issues."First, it is amusing that McCain and the RNC rebuked the Tennessee republican party (btw, cappy is from this state).

Second, the results of the polliing and the focus groups described in this thread is back and is evidently clear. The American public will react badly to the normal gop racism and stupidity.

Cappy you fit in well with the Tennessee republicans but you are out of step with the rest of America

sparks
02-28-2008, 09:16 AM
The RNC has told the Tenn. bigots in the Tennessee republican party to back off. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0208/RNC_warns_Tenn_GOP_on_Hussein.htmlFirst, it is amusing that McCain and the RNC rebuked the Tennessee republican party (btw, cappy is from this state).

Second, the results of the polliing and the focus groups described in this thread is back and is evidently clear. The American public will react badly to the normal gop racism and stupidity.

Cappy you fit in well with the Tennessee republicans but you are out of step with the rest of America

I was pleased to read this! This "us vs. them" politics is so old and frankly I think most people, Rep or Dem, are just plain sick of this sort of rhetoric! The tactics of the Reps. are reprehensible at best!

"The RNC has notified the Tennessee GOP that they do not support or agree with their approach,"

Now...in all fairness I'm also gonna take a pot shot at Hillary Clinton for her acting all buddy, buddy with Obama during the debates, but slamming him and his tactics the next day about his flyers his campaign sent out in Ohio. I thought that was rather two faced of her.

Deadshot
02-28-2008, 09:22 AM
I'm a History major and I keep thinking of some of these politicians, like Hillary, in the vain of generals and how history refers to them.

That is, generals always fight the new war with the old wars tactics. It usually takes them a while to get over the hump of how they trained to fight a war that is now obsolete. Just like what Hillary and McCain are doing.

IF Obama wins, it will be because he changed tactics a bit. He won't re-write the book, but he will expand it. :hotdog

sparks
02-28-2008, 09:28 AM
Bill Cunningham in Ohio isn't helping the GOP's goal either in my opinion with his racist innuendo. This strategy reflects poorly on the entire party, and the racism that exists within is glaring!

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080228/NEWS01/802280391

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 11:02 AM
Bill Cunningham in Ohio isn't helping the GOP's goal either in my opinion with his racist innuendo. This strategy reflects poorly on the entire party, and the racism that exists within is glaring!

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080228/NEWS01/802280391cunningham is claiming that he was told by the McCain campaign to stir up the crowd with some "red meat" and did his job. McCain claimed to have never met Cunningham but it appears that McCain's advanced age cause him to forget meeting Cunningham on at least two occassions.

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 12:24 PM
This is amusing. On this post, you can see the "clarification" from the Tennessee GOP. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/tennessee_gop_edits_somali_gar.phpThe Tennessee Republican Party has edited an incendiary press release that accused Barack Obama of anti-Semitism and links to Louis Farrakhan, after the release was denounced by the national party, and after John McCain reportedly apologized to Obama.

The new version still contains the key accusations, only removing some particularly controversial elements, and now carries the following notice at the bottom:

*Clarification: This release originally referenced a photo of Sen. Obama and incorrectly termed it to be "Muslim" garb. It is, in fact, Somali tribal garb, hence, we have deleted the photo. Also, in order to diffuse attempts by Democrats and the Left to divert attention from the main point of this release — that Sen. Obama has surrounded himself with advisers and recieved (sic) endorsements from people who are anti-Semitic and anti-Israel — we have deleted the use of Barack Obama’s middle name.You can see the original racist flyer if you go to the link and look at the screen capture.

The GOP's polling came back showing that the GOP stands to lose a great deal with racist attacks. However, you can still expect the GOP to try to make such attacks because that is how the GOP wins elections.

Deadshot
02-28-2008, 12:52 PM
What's amusing about the flyer is how it slams Farrahkhan (sp) about what he said about the Jews and then tries to link those comments to Obama.

My guess is that Pat Robertson will endorse McCain and he said that the reason Katrina happened was that it was God's wrath against those people.

I no more think that a idiotic Muslim preacher represents Obama then an idiotic Christian preacher represents McCain.:mw

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 01:42 PM
What's amusing about the flyer is how it slams Farrahkhan (sp) about what he said about the Jews and then tries to link those comments to Obama. These claims are pure bunk.
http://jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/news/article/2008022720080227obamafarrakhandebate.htmlWASHINGTO N (JTA) -- The head of the Anti-Defamation League says it's time to pack away the Farrakhan fears when it comes to Barack Obama.
"He was very clear," said Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director, describing the response of the Illinois senator who was asked in a debate Tuesday about the public praise he received over the weekend from the Nation of Islam leader.

"He distanced himself and condemned it and rejected it," Foxman said. "What more do we want? On that issue we should move on."

The Farrakhan question arose as Obama has sought to aggressively deflect falsehoods and distortions disseminated on the Internet describing the Democratic presidential contender as everything from a secret Muslim to being surrounded by anti-Israel advisers.
I trust Foxman on issues like this.

Ringo
02-28-2008, 01:48 PM
This is interesting. Rove is telling the GOP not to rely on racist tactics against Senator Obama. http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/rove_dont_hussein_obama_1.phpUnfortunately the racists and bigots in the GOP are not listening to Rove.http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/tennessee_gop_smears_obama_wit.phpSee also http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/27/gop-strategist-obama-nee_n_88763.htmlGiven the inherent racism and bigotry of the GOP, I expect this to be a nasty race. Bigots and racists can not help themselves.

So the TRUTH about Odummy's ties to Farrakhan via Jerimiah Wright who runs a A HATE Whitey church, would be RACIST?? What about calling Obama a Buckwheat look alike, SIMPLY because they are both Black, is that Racist or comparitive analysis???

I find it bullshit about the stranglehold the Black assholes are trying to put on the 1rst Amendment, while you GUTLESS sheep just stand by and do nothing!!

Screw Obama I can't seem to find anything that tells me he is really Pro America and his wife definately is not! Hope you don't get caught up in the Revolution Nancy, as the Lawbooks won't mean much, when you run into Patriots!!

Deadshot
02-28-2008, 01:52 PM
baa-baa-baa...rather be a sheep then a Republican. At least some people like a sheep!

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 03:18 PM
The RNC has gone from an informal communication to a formal rebuke of the racist Tennessee republican party efforts to slime Senator Obama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/28/rnc-denounces-use-of-hussein-in-obamas-name/Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan formally denounced Thursday the Tennessee Republican Party's use of Barack Obama's full name in a recent press release questioning the Illinois senator's commitment to Israel.

“The RNC rejects these kinds of campaign tactics," RNC Chairman Mike Duncan said in a statement. "We believe this election needs to be about the critical issues confronting our nation.”

The statement in question, which was released Monday, said the state party is joining a "growing chorus of Americans concerned about the future of the nation of Israel…if Sen. Barack Hussein Obama is elected president of the United States.” It also included a photograph of Obama from a 2006 trip to Kenya in which he is dressed in traditional attire worn by area Muslims.

The press release was sparked by recent praise for the Illinois senator from Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan, who has made several derogatory remarks about Judaism and has indicated his support for Obama. At Tuesday night's MSNBC debate, Obama said he denounced those comments and did not seek Farrakhan's support.

On Wednesday night the party removed both the photo and the reference of Hussein from the statement after Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander called to express his belief that using them had become a distraction, Tennessee GOP Communications Director Bill Hobbs told CNN.The earlier post just discussed a threat of a rebuke by the RNC and now the RNC has had to issue the formal repudiation.

Ringo
02-28-2008, 04:35 PM
The RNC has gone from an informal communication to a formal rebuke of the racist Tennessee republican party efforts to slime Senator Obama http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/28/rnc-denounces-use-of-hussein-in-obamas-name/The earlier post just discussed a threat of a rebuke by the RNC and now the RNC has had to issue the formal repudiation.

All this bullshit in the World don't change the fact of what Odummy is, and I will shout it from the rooftops and in the face of every Socialist asshole I see!

He will CHANGE Deadshots diapers

He will CHANGE Yellowstreaks Underwear

He will CHANGE tires, CHANGE his mind, CHANGE his Color, whatever is needed, but he will still be an ignorant Chicago Black, sucking on the Wright-Farrakahn Agenda!!!:theman:sheep:mw:pblade

Yellowdogtexan
02-28-2008, 05:59 PM
All this bullshit in the World don't change the fact of what Odummy is, and I will shout it from the rooftops and in the face of every Socialist asshole I see!The bigots and racists in the GOP will not be able to resist making stupid attacks aganist Senator Obama. Such attacks will alienate the independents who are key to Mccain's chances. I am glad that the GOP have people like ringo out there to help make mccain and the GOP look like a bunch of racists.