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Saguaro
02-12-2008, 10:39 PM
MIAMI (Reuters) - In the not-too-distant future, the U.S. government would like to be able to wake up residents in the middle of the night when a hurricane or tornado threatens, perhaps by sounding the alarm on a cellphone.

The birth of a twister or the sudden, overnight intensification of a hurricane while people are sleeping, are the nightmare scenarios facing storm forecasters as they lay plans to strengthen America's natural disaster defenses.

"I'm worried about waking you up," Mary Glackin, a Bush administration official responsible for the day-to-day operations of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said on Tuesday. "I call that completing the forecast."

The U.S. government is ready to spend more money on tracking satellites, sea buoys and research on hurricanes, Glackin said as she briefed south Florida officials on the administration's proposed fiscal year 2009 budget.

The disastrous 2004 and 2005 Atlantic hurricane seasons sent shock waves through global energy, insurance and commodities markets. Four powerful hurricanes struck Florida in 2004, causing a combined $35 billion in damage.

In 2005 a record-breaking 28 tropical cyclones formed, including some of the most intense hurricanes on record. Katrina killed 1,500 people and caused $80 billion in damage when it swamped the U.S. Gulf coast, bursting the levees protecting New Orleans and flooding the famous jazz city.

One of the biggest threats from hurricanes is the explosive intensification of a cyclone close to shore after residents have gone to bed, shortening the time available to safely evacuate millions of people from the crowded Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico coasts.

WAKE-UP CALL

Bill Read, the new director of the National Hurricane Center, said he would like to see a wake-up system, perhaps Internet-based and delivered by cellphone, within a decade.

"Look what can be delivered by cellphone now," Read said. "We ought to be there in 10 years."

In order to improve hurricane intensity forecasts, NOAA plans to deploy three new hurricane-monitoring buoys at sea this year, bringing to 15 the number in the Gulf of Mexico, Caribbean and Atlantic. They can measure wind speeds, wave heights, sea temperatures and other critical data.

Read said he hopes for a 3 percent yearly increase in the accuracy of intensity forecasts, the same as forecasters have been able to achieve in predicting hurricane tracks. The aim is to buy residents a little extra time to react to a storm.

"We're not going to solve the intensity problem if we don't do the research," he said.

The agency's budget for hurricane-hunter airplane flights into hurricanes is increasing, and it plans to equip a Gulfstream-IV jet with a new Doppler radar system, giving forecasters better data on a storm's wind field, Glackin said.

Researchers eventually hope to deploy unmanned aircraft like those used by the U.S. military in Iraq for hurricane research missions that are "dirty, dull or dangerous," she said. Such a drone was sent into Hurricane Noel last year.

The fiscal year 2009 budget, proposed by President George W. Bush and subject still to Congressional approval, would boost funding from $3 million to $6.3 million for the drones. Glackin said full deployment is "several years down the road."

The 2009 spending plan includes a huge $242 million increase for the GOES-R (Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite) program, which is scheduled to put a new string of satellites into orbit starting in 2014.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080212/ts_nm/storm_hurricanes_usa_dc

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 08:18 AM
After the F-5 went through Moore, OK, May 3, 1999, the entire state put up tornado sirens. They were installed and working while we were in 2000-2002. We also had a special weather alert radio in our home. I'll take hurricane season over tornado season any day of the week.

"In Oklahoma, 75% of all tornadoes occur between 5 p.m. and 9 p.m., said Harold Brooks, a meteorologist with the National Severe Storms Laboratory in Norman"


Deaf and Hard of hearing
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/edu/safety/pagers.html

nixon
02-13-2008, 08:29 AM
Do not wake me up with some government program.

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 08:57 AM
Do not wake me up with some government program.

Then don't expect help when you need it.

Moore, OK: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/storms/19990503/

Hurricane Andrew: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1992andrew.html

Hurricane Katrina/Rita: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/h2005_katrina.html

2005 Hurricane season: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2005atlan.shtml

nixon
02-13-2008, 09:11 AM
Then don't expect help when you need it.

Moore, OK: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/storms/19990503/

Hurricane Andrew: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/1992andrew.html

Hurricane Katrina/Rita: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/h2005_katrina.html

2005 Hurricane season: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2005atlan.shtml I have never expected help. This program works if you have a cell phone? What if you can't afford one? I live in Fl and I been through a few storms and guess what? I'm still alive paying taxes on another bullshit government program that will give us ten cents of service for every dollar spent. "Don't expect help." Nixon's answer "O.K." I didn't understand why you attached those links.

Ringo
02-13-2008, 09:23 AM
Do not wake me up with some government program.

Hurricaines which you would more likely face in FL are not near as severe INLAND for the most part, but tornado's do not allow that safety valve! I have been in 3 and those that come up Tornado alley from TX to OK, NE, SD & Iowa are usually bad! I remember seeing a 2x4 drove into get this, a cement building, I have seen 80,000lb 18 wheelers tossed around like Tonka Toys! I have a weather alert that runs on batteries, I like the edge it gives me!

I forgot to mention we live just east of teh Black Hills, so we RARELY see tornadic activity as they break up, but EAST of us towards teh MO river it gets a little wild!

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 09:44 AM
I have never expected help. This program works if you have a cell phone? What if you can't afford one? I live in Fl and I been through a few storms and guess what? I'm still alive paying taxes on another bullshit government program that will give us ten cents of service for every dollar spent. "Don't expect help." Nixon's answer "O.K." I didn't understand why you attached those links.


I lived in GA 2003-2006 off of I-95. I personally know you are full of it. If you can afford the internet you can afford a cell phone. If you can't understand why I attached those links, help probably will never find you anyway.

nixon
02-13-2008, 12:05 PM
I lived in GA 2003-2006 off of I-95. I personally know you are full of it. If you can afford the internet you can afford a cell phone. If you can't understand why I attached those links, help probably will never find you anyway. What am I full of? I didn't say I couldn't afford a cell phone, but what if you can't? What if you don't want one? And what does living off I-95 have to do with anything? It's another government program, like we don't have enough of those already. During the '04 season I watch people leave thier homes and go to a shelter because that is what the authorities told people to do. The shelter they evacuated to lost it's roof. Some more government cluster-fuck. Take care of you and yours. Do not count on the government's help, if you do you may be worse off.

nixon
02-13-2008, 12:11 PM
Hurricaines which you would more likely face in FL are not near as severe INLAND for the most part, but tornado's do not allow that safety valve! I have been in 3 and those that come up Tornado alley from TX to OK, NE, SD & Iowa are usually bad! I remember seeing a 2x4 drove into get this, a cement building, I have seen 80,000lb 18 wheelers tossed around like Tonka Toys! I have a weather alert that runs on batteries, I like the edge it gives me!

I forgot to mention we live just east of teh Black Hills, so we RARELY see tornadic activity as they break up, but EAST of us towards teh MO river it gets a little wild!From your posts, I get the impression that you are somewhat of a God fearing individual. If that is true, then everything is God's will, right? I mean, that is how I look at it. If an act of God calls me home, so be it.

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 12:13 PM
What am I full of? I didn't say I couldn't afford a cell phone, but what if you can't? What if you don't want one? And what does living off I-95 have to do with anything? It's another government program, like we don't have enough of those already. During the '04 season I watch people leave thier homes and go to a shelter because that is what the authorities told people to do. The shelter they evacuated to lost it's roof. Some more government cluster-fuck. Take care of you and yours. Do not count on the government's help, if you do you may be worse off.

I watched the utlity trucks and volunteers caravan to FL, FL didn't rebuild itself. So, tell me how FL helped itself?


"During the '04 season I watch people leave thier homes and go to a shelter because that is what the authorities told people to do."

OMG...can you say Nagan?

nixon
02-13-2008, 12:30 PM
I watched the utlity trucks and volunteers caravan to FL, FL didn't rebuild itself. So, tell me how FL helped itself?


"During the '04 season I watch people leave thier homes and go to a shelter because that is what the authorities told people to do."

OMG...can you say Nagan? You watched volunteers? 5% did that, the other 95% came here to profit and fucked up our local economy. Yeah, volunteers my ass sucks buttermilk, too!!! OMG, Nagan? What does that statement imply, you lost me. Telling like it is, Nixon. (I was here to see it)

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 12:32 PM
You watched volunteers? 5% did that, the other 95% came here to profit and fucked up our local economy. Yeah, volunteers my ass sucks buttermilk, too!!! OMG, Nagan? What does that statement imply, you lost me. Telling like it is, Nixon. (I was here to see it)

OK. The next hurricane season you stay in your home. Enjoy the weather and scenery of your town.

nixon
02-13-2008, 01:02 PM
OK. The next hurricane season you stay in your home. Enjoy the weather and scenery of your town.Stay in my home for the hurricane season? You mean do what I have done for the last 24 years? O.K. I do enjoy the weather, that's why I chose to live in Florida.And if the winds change the scenery, so be it, everything in life changes.

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 03:49 PM
Stay in my home for the hurricane season? You mean do what I have done for the last 24 years? O.K. I do enjoy the weather, that's why I chose to live in Florida.And if the winds change the scenery, so be it, everything in life changes.

I do agree with you on the above accounts. But, to say gov't help wasn't there...that' utter bull. My husband spent 6 weeks in FL after Hurricane Andrew.

nixon
02-13-2008, 03:54 PM
I do agree with you on the above accounts. But, to say gov't help wasn't there...that' utter bull. My husband spent 6 weeks in FL after Hurricane Andrew. I never said that, that is where we are having a problem. My point is the less we lean on the government, the better. That is all.

Oceanbreeze
02-13-2008, 03:55 PM
I never said that, that is where we are having a problem. My point is the less we lean on the government, the better. That is all.

Then we agree after all. :)

nixon
02-13-2008, 04:35 PM
Then we agree after all. :)It wouldn't be right to disagree with someone named "Ocean Breeze".

Wabash
02-13-2008, 06:50 PM
I never said that, that is where we are having a problem. My point is the less we lean on the government, the better. That is all.

We agree on that one!!!
I could change my name if you'd talk to me all sweet like that...:LL

nixon
02-13-2008, 06:54 PM
We agree on that one!!!
I could change my name if you'd talk to me all sweet like that...:LLC'mon, Wabs. We are probably a lot a like. You fuck with me, and I fuck with you. And at the end of the day, we are all Americans. Nixon. Peace.

Wabash
02-13-2008, 07:14 PM
C'mon, Wabs. We are probably a lot a like. You fuck with me, and I fuck with you. And at the end of the day, we are all Americans. Nixon. Peace.

Correct! What kind of adult beverage do you like?

nixon
02-13-2008, 07:33 PM
I try not to drink, but when I cut loose, Budweiser long neck. Stoli vodka. And yourself?

Wabash
02-13-2008, 08:07 PM
I try not to drink, but when I cut loose, Budweiser long neck. Stoli vodka. And yourself?

I'm allergic to alcohol and get headaches, and only have an occasional Dos Equis!