Elite Evangelicals - Presidents, CEOs, Entertainers

[toxic]

THEY DON'T GO TO CHURCH.

THAT'S LIKE PAYING TAXES, IT'S FOR THE "LITTLE" PEOPLE.


http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/02/a-gated-communi.html

A gated community in the evangelical world
Many of the nation’s most powerful believers — presidents, CEOs, entertainers and athletes — won’t be found in the pews on Sundays, thus creating a growing gap between them and ‘the people.’ It’s a trend that is having a profound effect on this faith movement.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/10/linday01lowres.jpg


By D. Michael Lindsay


President Bush is Public Evangelical No. 1. His presidency is the capstone of evangelicals' 30-year rise from the margins of society to the halls of power. But while the president has gone to great lengths to testify publicly to his faith, he often doesn't do the one thing that defines most evangelicals — go to church. He attends chapel at Camp David and other special services, but the president rarely can be found in a congregation on Sunday morning. (In contrast, Presidents Carter and Clinton both attended services in Washington during their tenures.)

Surprised? When most of us think of devout evangelicals, we think of people who attend church regularly and are active in their local congregations. Yet many of the most prominent evangelicals do neither. They regularly attend Bible studies and religious gatherings, including last week's National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, but many can't be found in the pews on Sunday.

(Illustration by Web Bryant, USA TODAY)


I spent the past five years interviewing some of the country's top leaders — two U.S. presidents (George H.W. Bush and Carter), 100 CEOs and senior business executives, Hollywood icons, celebrated artists and world-class athletes. All were chosen because of their widely known faith. Yet I was shocked to find that more than half — 60% — had low levels of commitment to their denominations and congregations. Some were members in name only; others had actively disengaged from church life.

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[Sweet Tart]

religion, the ultimate accessory dogma :ohyeah

[Ringo]

THEY DON'T GO TO CHURCH.

THAT'S LIKE PAYING TAXES, IT'S FOR THE "LITTLE" PEOPLE.


http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2008/02/a-gated-communi.html

A gated community in the evangelical world
Many of the nation’s most powerful believers — presidents, CEOs, entertainers and athletes — won’t be found in the pews on Sundays, thus creating a growing gap between them and ‘the people.’ It’s a trend that is having a profound effect on this faith movement.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/10/linday01lowres.jpg


By D. Michael Lindsay


President Bush is Public Evangelical No. 1. His presidency is the capstone of evangelicals' 30-year rise from the margins of society to the halls of power. But while the president has gone to great lengths to testify publicly to his faith, he often doesn't do the one thing that defines most evangelicals — go to church. He attends chapel at Camp David and other special services, but the president rarely can be found in a congregation on Sunday morning. (In contrast, Presidents Carter and Clinton both attended services in Washington during their tenures.)

Surprised? When most of us think of devout evangelicals, we think of people who attend church regularly and are active in their local congregations. Yet many of the most prominent evangelicals do neither. They regularly attend Bible studies and religious gatherings, including last week's National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, but many can't be found in the pews on Sunday.

(Illustration by Web Bryant, USA TODAY)


I spent the past five years interviewing some of the country's top leaders — two U.S. presidents (George H.W. Bush and Carter), 100 CEOs and senior business executives, Hollywood icons, celebrated artists and world-class athletes. All were chosen because of their widely known faith. Yet I was shocked to find that more than half — 60% — had low levels of commitment to their denominations and congregations. Some were members in name only; others had actively disengaged from church life.

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My mother told me once if your going to church to display your new Suit, Dress, Hat etc... or are there to show people that you attend and how Christian you are, you should stay home and Pray for yourself, YOU need it!!

For Carter it was genuine, for Clinton it was show, I can't evaluate Mr Bush, simply becuse he doesn't make the Church Social scene in DC!!

I always like my Religion to be private and not among some Agnostic Liberal evaluation process, which hopes to bash Christianity at every turn!!!

[Saguaro]

It isn't Christianity that is blasted,it is how the vocal extreme Christians do NOT practice what they preach

[Yellowdogtexan]

It isn't Christianity that is blasted,it is how the vocal extreme Christians do NOT practice what they preachDo as I say and not do as I do

[Wabash]

My mother told me once if your going to church to display your new Suit, Dress, Hat etc... or are there to show people that you attend and how Christian you are, you should stay home and Pray for yourself, YOU need it!!

For Carter it was genuine, for Clinton it was show, I can't evaluate Mr Bush, simply becuse he doesn't make the Church Social scene in DC!!

I always like my Religion to be private and not among some Agnostic Liberal evaluation process, which hopes to bash Christianity at every turn!!!
Very nice post!

It isn't Christianity that is blasted,it is how the vocal extreme Christians do NOT practice what they preach
You can't say that about Reagan.....he was a God fearing man and attended services regularly!

[Saguaro]

Wabash I never said that about Reagan

[Yellowdogtexan]

The religious right claims that it has the lock on G-d and religion. I firmly believe that this is bull and the being liberal is no impediment to being religious. These CEOs are one side of the coin just as the number of young evangelicals who are becoming Democrats are the other side of the coin. See http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showpost.php?p=187005&postcount=49

[Wabash]

Wabash I never said that about Reagan
Oh, I never said that you did...I was just making a statement.:D

The religious right claims that it has the lock on G-d and religion. I firmly believe that this is bull and the being liberal is no impediment to being religious. These CEOs are one side of the coin just as the number of young evangelicals who are becoming Democrats are the other side of the coin. See http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showpost.php?p=187005&postcount=49
I don't believe any one person or group has a lock on God...it's not up to them....it's up to God!
Do you have a hard time saying G- O- D ...AC?

[Yellowdogtexan]

Do you have a hard time saying G- O- D ... The reason that you post so many stupid things may well be due to the fact that you have no memory and can not understand even simple concepts. This is the third or so time that I have posted this. http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htmJews do not casually write any Name of God. This practice does not come from the commandment not to take the Lord's Name in vain, as many suppose. In Jewish thought, that commandment refers solely to oath-taking, and is a prohibition against swearing by God's Name falsely or frivolously (the word normally translated as "in vain" literally means "for falsehood").

Judaism does not prohibit writing the Name of God per se; it prohibits only erasing or defacing a Name of God. However, observant Jews avoid writing any Name of God casually because of the risk that the written Name might later be defaced, obliterated or destroyed accidentally or by one who does not know better.

The commandment not to erase or deface the name of God comes from Deut. 12:3. In that passage, the people are commanded that when they take over the promised land, they should destroy all things related to the idolatrous religions of that region, and should utterly destroy the names of the local deities. Immediately afterwards, we are commanded not to do the same to our God. From this, the rabbis inferred that we are commanded not to destroy any holy thing, and not to erase or deface a Name of God.

It is worth noting that this prohibition against erasing or defacing Names of God applies only to Names that are written in some kind of permanent form, and recent rabbinical decisions have held that writing on a computer is not a permanent form, thus it is not a violation to type God's Name into a computer and then backspace over it or cut and paste it, or copy and delete files with God's Name in them. However, once you print the document out, it becomes a permanent form. That is why observant Jews avoid writing a Name of God on web sites like this one or in newsgroup messages: because there is a risk that someone else will print it out and deface it.

Normally, we avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing "G-d" instead of "God." In addition, the number 15, which would ordinarily be written in Hebrew as Yod-Hei (10-5), is normally written as Teit-Vav (9-6), because Yod-Hei is a Name. See Hebrew Alphabet for more information about using letters as numerals. Maybe one of these days, you might remember these simple rules but I doubt it.

[Wabash]

The reason that you post so many stupid things may well be due to the fact that you have no memory and can not understand even simple concepts. This is the third or so time that I have posted this. http://www.jewfaq.org/name.htmMaybe one of these days, you might remember these simple rules but I doubt it.

Yes.... now I remember ...I forgot...my bad...

[Yellowdogtexan]

Yes.... now I remember ...I forgot...my bad...This is why I do not trust your memory on anything. I still remember how silly you were when you insisted that the UN Security Council had approved the invasion of Iraq and how you refused to back down because you remember hearing about the action of the UN Security Council on the news.

[Ringo]

Do as I say and not do as I do

Do you see any of that in Judaism, Islam, Buddhism or other so-called Religions??

[Ringo]

This is why I do not trust your memory on anything. I still remember how silly you were when you insisted that the UN Security Council had approved the invasion of Iraq and how you refused to back down because you remember hearing about the action of the UN Security Council on the news.

He was trying to be decent idiot, he said he made a mistake!! remember we can't all remember everything like Lawyers keep track of their clients LIES so easy, as they practice a lot on their own LYING ways!!

I think religion should be personal and not up to some Soros bred idiots to practice the old Soviet ways of Destroying Christians, through the Media and finally with force!

Judaism has it wrong just as Islam does, God & Jesus are one in the same, and its hard for your backwards societies to accept that!:nerd