The liar is going down !

[Saguaro]

WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat.

"The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world," Stanzel said.

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.

Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.

The center said the study was based on a database created with public statements over the two years beginning on Sept. 11, 2001, and information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews.

"The cumulative effect of these false statements — amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts — was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war," the study concluded.

"Some journalists — indeed, even some entire news organizations — have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, 'independent' validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq," it said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study;_ylt=Avuh6nlY_9rVp4xQHuEPcZus 0NUE

[BartonX]

The title is misleading since it is most appropriately applied to both maybe all Clinton's. :)

[Lone Laugher]

Wow, Bart. Who would have thought of bringing up the Clinton name upon reading that article. You are to be commended for your originality. It must take great character and personal strength to always remain focused on the issue at hand.

[Trueblue]

Impeachment is the only avenue available, but it's far too easy on Bush and Cheney.

[Trueblue]

http://www.juancole.com/

I first realized that the full propaganda apparatus had been deployed when I saw Donald Rumsfeld on television in April of 2003 actually denying that there was any mass looting in Iraq, and maintaining that CNN was looping one guy with a vase over and over again. How many vases can they have, he asked. I thought, "these are not the 'droids you're looking for."

[BartonX]

Wow, Bart. Who would have thought of bringing up the Clinton name upon reading that article. You are to be commended for your originality. It must take great character and personal strength to always remain focused on the issue at hand.

It is common for genius to be misunderstood but I am humble enough to keep a low profile on my cerbral prowess. :):rooster

[socalgolfguy]

I would love to hear what Colin Powell has to say on this issue. On the other hand, his silence tells it all.

[Yellowdogtexan]

bush lied to sell the war in Iraq using fixed intelligence and facts. Now a study has documented these lies. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22794451/WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.....

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan.

Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida.
bush lied 259 times himself and the bushies together made 935 lies in order to sell the stupid war in Iraq.

[Wabash]

Wow, Bart. Who would have thought of bringing up the Clinton name upon reading that article. You are to be commended for your originality. It must take great character and personal strength to always remain focused on the issue at hand.

It must take great lack of character...and personal weakness, for the libs, to give the Clintons a pass, time, after time, after time...

[Saguaro]

Newsflash : Bill Clinton is no longer POTUS !

[nixon]

Newsflash : Bill Clinton is no longer POTUS ! Certain individuals have a hard time on that. Bush is done. 363 more days, my fellow Americans!!! Nixon, The Patriot.

[April15]

Maybe Wabash has a point. I mean didn't Clinton have investments that went south? He did try to intervien in Kosovo or bosnia only to be told by congress that he should be prepared to defend himself when Starr found some dirt on him after 3 years of digging. I mean Bush has been very open about his lies and lack of concern for the law of the land.

[Trueblue]

We knew this, but somebody actually counted and documented statements made by administration officials that contradicted what was KNOWN.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/index.html

http://www.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/

On August 26, 2002, in an address to the national convention of the Veteran of Foreign Wars, Cheney flatly declared: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." In fact, former CIA Director George Tenet later recalled, Cheney's assertions went well beyond his agency's assessments at the time. Another CIA official, referring to the same speech, told journalist Ron Suskind, "Our reaction was, 'Where is he getting this stuff from?' "

In July 2002, Rumsfeld had a one-word answer for reporters who asked whether Iraq had relationships with Al Qaeda terrorists: "Sure." In fact, an assessment issued that same month by the Defense Intelligence Agency (and confirmed weeks later by CIA Director Tenet) found an absence of "compelling evidence demonstrating direct cooperation between the government of Iraq and Al Qaeda." What's more, an earlier DIA assessment said that "the nature of the regime's relationship with Al Qaeda is unclear."

[toxic]

It must take great lack of character...and personal weakness, for the libs, to give the Clintons a pass, time, after time, after time...

Hell, the National Security Advisor (Rice) didn't even know who/what Al-Queda was and didn't care to be taught before 911.

In 2001, Bush had never even been to Europe (muchless the Mideast) and had made campaign promises to let the Israelis and Arabs fight it out on their own.

I'm sure Bush thought he would do what he had done as Govenor of Texas - nothing. He never passed a bill and he never said anything worthy of repeat by the Newspaper. He just sat on his lazy ass.

Bush's big bipartisan success, was after he said he was going to run for President. The Texas legislature (both parties) were soooo happy he would leave, they passed a meaningless bill and gave him credit for it.

[socalgolfguy]

Newsflash : Bill Clinton is no longer POTUS !

Like he said the first time, we get two for one.
For me, thank you, no.

[Yellowdogtexan]

Countdown had a good segment on these lies last night See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1K47_ZoXk These lies were intentional and were designed to sell the war in Iraq. These lies were all timed or released in accordance with a play to push bush's political agenda of going to war based on fixed facts and intelligence

[nixon]

Countdown had a good segment on these lies last night See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1K47_ZoXk These lies were intentional and were designed to sell the war in Iraq. These lies were all timed or released in accordance with a play to push bush's political agenda of going to war based on fixed facts and intelligence Tell me, America, how did we get bullshitted into this??? Bush- The Worst Ever. Only 362 more days.

[issac the dragon]

Never underestimate the power of frightening the people. You know, the ones who believe the terrorists are going to blow up the Starbucks in their home town. A lot of people in this country are shameless cowards. And stupid. The Republicans know that. And they will try for the coward and stupid vote again.

But there is a bigger boggy man this year. The fear of recession. And that will make the people who voted for Bush vote for a Democrat this time.

[Zanoog]

Never underestimate the power of frightening the people. You know, the ones who believe the terrorists are going to blow up the Starbucks in their home town. A lot of people in this country are shameless cowards. And stupid. The Republicans know that. And they will try for the coward and stupid vote again.

But there is a bigger boggy man this year. The fear of recession. And that will make the people who voted for Bush vote for a Democrat this time.

Anyone remember "The dumbing-up of America"? We have arrived!! Those who haven't been lulled into a stupor are few, hence, not enough mass to make much of a difference. And they know it.

Why do you think this administration has been able to get away with all of these crimes? We have the doofus POTUS and his sidekick Quick Draw McCheney who will take you hunting and blow your face off!

Most Americans (except Wabash of course) are hemorrhaging, watching their savings disappear while they try and continue on what they imagined was a good career plan. Not so anymore.

So who do we elect? Hopefully it will be the person that convinces us, they will recognize their own countrymen and women and the true state we are in. Our infrastructure isn't just crumbling - it has crumbled.

And yes cons - I lay all the problems at the feet of this administration - the propaganda and bullshit promises have done this to us. I want to see bush swing - for real, with a new rope, hopefully made from hemp. :)

[jim]

Anyone remember "The dumbing-up of America"? We have arrived!! Those who haven't been lulled into a stupor are few, hence, not enough mass to make much of a difference. And they know it.

Why do you think this administration has been able to get away with all of these crimes? We have the doofus POTUS and his sidekick Quick Draw McCheney who will take you hunting and blow your face off!

Most Americans (except Wabash of course) are hemorrhaging, watching their savings disappear while they try and continue on what they imagined was a good career plan. Not so anymore.

So who do we elect? Hopefully it will be the person that convinces us, they will recognize their own countrymen and women and the true state we are in. Our infrastructure isn't just crumbling - it has crumbled.

And yes cons - I lay all the problems at the feet of this administration - the propaganda and bullshit promises have done this to us. I want to see bush swing - for real, with a new rope, hopefully made from hemp. :)

So very few can see the big picture.:brr

[Saguaro]

Tell me, America, how did we get bullshitted into this??? Bush- The Worst Ever. Only 362 more days.


:shrug2 I don't know, I never voted for the idiot

[D2]

It must take great lack of character...and personal weakness, for the libs, to give the Clintons a pass, time, after time, after time...

right....as long as the clintons are still out and walking above ground, you CANNOT call ANYone else a Liar with any authority whatsoever.

the libs are still jealous cause bush won the election and the supreme court would not let algore re-count and re-count til he got the results that he wanted.

more liberal bullshit.

[D2]

And that will make the people who voted for Bush vote for a Democrat this time.

DEAD WRONG

[Lone Laugher]

Get used to that liberal bullshit....there is plenty on the way. Hope you don't get jealous.

[Trueblue]

right....as long as the clintons are still out and walking above ground, you CANNOT call ANYone else a Liar with any authority whatsoever.

the libs are still jealous cause bush won the election and the supreme court would not let algore re-count and re-count til he got the results that he wanted.

more liberal bullshit.

:bullshit

You can't seriously compare lying about an affair to lying us into war.

Regarding the 2000 election, you've got your facts and your understanding wrong.

[nixon]

And that will make the people who voted for Bush vote for a Democrat this time.

DEAD WRONGYou are talking about me. I thought he would make a good President. I was very wrong.

[waterdog]

:shrug2 I don't know, I never voted for the idiot

I didn't vote for the idiot either, but I know how we got in this mess - too many idiots voted for the idiot. :hulk

[jim]

I didn't vote for the idiot either, but I know how we got in this mess - too many idiots voted for the idiot. :hulk

Right On!!:roar

[Ringo]

right....as long as the clintons are still out and walking above ground, you CANNOT call ANYone else a Liar with any authority whatsoever.

the libs are still jealous cause bush won the election and the supreme court would not let algore re-count and re-count til he got the results that he wanted.

more liberal bullshit.

Oh no D2, you are now a marked woman, so watch out for *Certain* YDT people, they get PERSONAL or should I say HE does!!

[Zanoog]

I could only wish that Bush's lies were about sex. We would be so lucky, and $800 Billion richer.

[Zanoog]

But who would give him a tumble? Oh yeah, Ann Coulter right? How about you D2? A dream come true? You and monkey face? :lol

[nixon]

I didn't vote for the idiot either, but I know how we got in this mess - too many idiots voted for the idiot. :hulkI'm swallowing down my last peice of humble pie. My fellow Americans, it pains me to say I was wrong, but I was WRONG about Bush. I'm sorry I helped put the lying peice of excretment in office. If you can find it in your hearts, please forgive me. Nixon.Peace to all.

[Saguaro]

:sag

[BartonX]

I'm swallowing down my last peice of humble pie. My fellow Americans, it pains me to say I was wrong, but I was WRONG about Bush. I'm sorry I helped put the lying peice of excretment in office. If you can find it in your hearts, please forgive me. Nixon.Peace to all.

You are a dickhead quoting another dickhead, what a waste of our time! No one can forgive you for being the ass hole you have chosen to be. Go away!

[Wabash]

You are a dickhead quoteing another dickhead, what a waste of our time! No one can forgive you for being the ass hole you have chosen to be. Go away!

Ditto!

I voted for Bush both times and would do it again, given the alternatives! I apologize for nothing...
The Bigger liar is Clinton and still is!

[BartonX]

But who would give him a tumble? Oh yeah, Ann Coulter right? How about you D2? A dream come true? You and monkey face? :lol

Zanoog, Ann Coulter is a lot better looking than you. You look like the south end of a north bound mule...a very old one!

[Saguaro]

The insulting will stop right now,this is a moderated forum

[Wabash]

Zanoog, Ann Coulter is a lot better looking than you. You look like the south end of a north bound mule...a very old one!

..................ok.....

[BartonX]

Then you tell your people that right now we are tired of their shit! You got that?

[Lone Laugher]

Hmmmmm. Barton seems to be calling another person an asshole for giving a vote to George Bush in 2004. What could this mean?

[D2]

Regarding the 2000 election, you've got your facts and your understanding wrong.

No....I Don't
you do

[Yellowdogtexan]

The silly conservatives can not deal with the truth. bush lied and thousands have died as a result of these lies. Instead of dealing with these facts, the silly conservatives resort to claims about President Clinton and like matters. Again, no one died due to President Clinton's lies about sex while thousands of US soliders have lost their lives due to the lies of bush and company.

These lies were all part of a plot to used fixed facts and fixed intelligence to sell the war in Iraq. These fixed facts and fixed intelligence resulted in the waste of billions of dollars and the waste of American lives. Nothing that President Clinton may have done compares to this.

[Wabash]

Regarding the 2000 election, you've got your facts and your understanding wrong.

No....I Don't
you do
You're talking to Mental Defectives D2. What do you expect?

[BartonX]

Hmmmmm. Barton seems to be calling another person an asshole for giving a vote to George Bush in 2004. What could this mean?

I can explain it to you in case it is unclear.

[D2]

I could only wish that Bush's lies were about sex. We would be so lucky, and $800 Billion richer.

bullcrap....just wait...if hildebeast gets into office (GOD FORBID)...then you'll REALLY be broke !
like i said in an ealier post. the libs are still pissed over the last election and you will use ANYTHING to try to have a point to your useless opinions

[D2]

bush lied and thousands have died as a result of these lies.
:rofl:

THERE"S the liberal koolaid line !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WHAT A MORON !

[BartonX]

The silly conservatives can not deal with the truth. bush lied and thousands have died as a result of these lies. Instead of dealing with these facts, the silly conservatives resort to claims about President Clinton and like matters. Again, no one died due to President Clinton's lies about sex while thousands of US soliders have lost their lives due to the lies of bush and company.

These lies were all part of a plot to used fixed facts and fixed intelligence to sell the war in Iraq. These fixed facts and fixed intelligence resulted in the waste of billions of dollars and the waste of American lives. Nothing that President Clinton may have done compares to this.

The scumbag Clinton lied under oath was impeached for it and he started the war with Islam that we are engaged in and will be for the next several decades if not until the end of time due to a nuclear exchange?

All of the asses under the Jackass banner had the same information and came to the same conclusion as our President. So by your conclusion Hillary is a liar, Obama is a liar, Edwards (that's a given) and every other trashy democrat in D.C. are liars. Nothing new.

[D2]

You're talking to Mental Defectives D2. What do you expect?

i don't expect anything of them, Wabby.
hell...thats why WE have to give them money to live...because they have no intelligence or abilities beyond cashing their gov. check every month and making sure they get in the right line for the food stamps

[Wabash]

These stupid Dems are so retarded in thought...

Clinton lied many times and caused the death of many soldiers himself!

They show their Mental Defect, when they keep bringing up lying about sex, when in fact the sex on it's own was not the issue...Clinton lied to a Grand Jury and on TV to the American people!
He could have prevented all the deaths in this war, by taking out bin Hidin early on...but was too worried about world opinion instead of having the balls to go ahead and do it...Clinton had balls to rape women, but not to protect the country...forcing Bush to step up and be the Real man Clinton wanted to be!!!

[Lone Laugher]

Humor me, Barton.

[Lone Laugher]

Wow....you guys are really making tons of sense today. keep it coming...it is a real ejumakeshun.

[Wabash]

bush lied and thousands have died as a result of these lies.
:rofl:

THERE"S the liberal koolaid line !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WHAT A MORON !

You noticed too....Good for you!!

The scumbag Clinton lied under oath was impeached for it and he started the war with Islam that we are engaged in and will be for the next several decades if not until the end of time due to a nuclear exchange?

All of the asses under the Jackass banner had the same information and came to the same conclusion as our President. So by your conclusion Hillary is a liar, Obama is a liar, Edwards (that's a given) and every other trashy democrat in D.C. are liars. Nothing new.

Ditto!

i don't expect anything of them, Wabby.
hell...thats why WE have to give them money to live...because they have no intelligence or abilities beyond cashing their gov. check every month and making sure they get in the right line for the food stamps
Boy Howdy...and the ones that shout the loudest are the ones on Govt. dole that don't vote anyway!

[BartonX]

Humor me, Barton.

He is by talking to you.

[Wabash]

I heard a fart from the peanut gallery...Bart or D2 or anyone here it?:LL

[BartonX]

I heard a fart from the peanut gallery...Bart or D2 or anyone here it?:LL

I heard it it sounded like Truman Capote.

[Wabash]

I heard it it sounded like Truman Capote.

THAT'S IT!!!! I knew I recognized it!

[Lone Laugher]

He is by talking to you.

You referring to yourself in the 3rd person now? That becomes you.

[Lone Laugher]

THAT'S IT!!!! I knew I recognized it!

That might be the worse joke of the day. But if it makes the little ones chuckle it can't be all that bad.

[Wabash]

Barton X...I heard it again...a small fart like sound that kinda squeaked...just like someone trying to squeeze one off and not be noticed...a Truman Capote sound...maybe from someone of the same stature..:LL

[Wabash]

I think we are gonna have to douche this thread Bart...that sound has an ordor to it as well...I'll go get the vinegar..

[Yellowdogtexan]

The Democrats are timing the release of the Phase II intelligence assessment for this Spring so that the formal documentation of all of the bush lies about Iraq will have time to affect the November elections. I am looking forward to that release.

Again, the facts are clear and the silly conservative are in denial. bush lied and thousands have died. These lies have been documented and even more documentation of these lies will be forthcoming. The conservatives may be too dumb to accept the truth about bush but they are in the minority now. The rest of America know that bush lied about Iraq

[Wabash]

I wonder what the silly moronic Libs are gonna do when they don't have Bush to kick around anymore....suicide from boredom would be a good option!

[BartonX]

We probably need to file an injunction to halt the current process since none of those running are fit for the Office and we deserve far better. George Bush has us spoiled. I doubt it we can go from class to a Liberal ass.

[Wabash]

We probably need to file an injunction to halt the current process since none of those running are fit for the Office and we deserve far better. George Bush has us spoiled. I doubt it we can go from class to a Liberal ass.

From Class to a Liberal Ass! Catchy...:thumbsup

[Yellowdogtexan]

We probably need to file an injunction to halt the current process since none of those running are fit for the Office and we deserve far better. Go ahead and try. Your lack of knowledge and silliness would provide some real lawyers with some amusement. We love to laugh at laypersons like bartonx because he is so clueless and silly

[Yellowdogtexan]

I note with great amusement that the silly and amusing conservatives are not even trying to dispute the fact that bush is a liar and the documentation of these lies. These silly conservative have been reduced to looking silly with their complaints against President Clinton and their denial of the truth about bush.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. For the conservatives on this board, it is a way of life.

[BartonX]

Go ahead and try. Your lack of knowledge and silliness would provide some real lawyers with some amusement. We love to laugh at laypersons like bartonx because he is so clueless and silly

Since I have already demonstrated that I am smarter than you, I wouldn't say that too loud if I were you! :rofl :LL

[Wabash]

Attorneys are sooooo full of themselves....was that Truman Capote talking ??

I heard a small person speak, a very small person.......:LL

[Wabash]

Hey Barton X...have you ever noticed that many attorneys are of a certain ethnic group and small in stature with a little man complex? I have met sooo many in Ca. and Or. even some in DC.....must be an American epidemic..

[BartonX]

If not Capote it must have been a brussel sprout talking. His side has been vegetating lately!

[BartonX]

Hey Barton X...have you ever noticed that many attorneys are of a certain ethnic group and small in stature with a little man complex? I have met sooo many in Ca. and Or. even some in DC.....must be an American epidemic..

Yeah if they aren't screwing someone or each other they are playing with their little "dicta's". :rofl:rooster

[Yellowdogtexan]

Since I have already demonstrated that I am smarter than you, I wouldn't say that too loud if I were you! You ran away like a coward on the bible thread. I did all of the work of getting you the name of the case (lawyers use the word style but since you are a layperson I will humor you), the address of the judge and challenged you to file your silly and stupid theory as an amicus brief. Like all ignorant cowards, you ran away from this challenge which was smart on your part. A federal judge would have ripped you apart for the stupid claim that you were advance. Hint, if the falwell legal foundation is smart enough to know that your position was stupid, you should follow their lead on this issue.

Again, if bartonx really believes his crap and is not a coward, then he needs to file an amicus brief in the bible distribution case. bartonx does not have the balls to take up this challenge because he knows that any filling he makes will just end up in the legal humor section of a couple of bar journals (real lawyers love to laugh at people like bartonx).

Again, bartonx is all hat/talk and no cattle/balls/courage.

[D2]

you sound like an idiot YDT.

[Saguaro]

what part of STOP THE INSULTS are people having trouble with ?

[Yellowdogtexan]

Again, no one wants to deal with the issues here. The lies of the bushies have been documented and all the conservative can do is whine about Clinton.

[Yellowdogtexan]

BTW, here is something for the silly conservatives to look forward to. The Senate Intelligence Committee will be issuing its phase II on the lies told by the bushies to sell the war in Iraq later this year.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/01/23/BL2008012301758_2.html?nav=rss_opinion/columnsWendy Morigi, spokeswoman for Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller, told me this morning that it will be out before the end of spring.

Why the delay? Due to the "lack of comity on the committee" when Rockefeller took over the chairmanship, he decided that pushing ahead with the inquiry right away "would again create tension," Morigi said.

Nevertheless, the committee staff has "continued to work" on the report, she said. And a hearing on the matter will be held "within the next few months."
This report will have even more examples of lies told by the bushies to sell the war in Iraq. That fact that the republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee are fighting this report means that it will be good

[nixon]

You are a dickhead quoting another dickhead, what a waste of our time! No one can forgive you for being the ass hole you have chosen to be. Go away! Who am I quoting? I am not familiar with copying anyone. I'm sorry if we have a difference of opinion, Sir, but calling me a dickhead and an asshole is really not necessary. One of your fellow Americans, Nixon.

[Wabash]

Reminds me of an old joke, told to me by my dearly departed brother, back in '76....
the punch line was: If the Foo Shits...Wear it!

[nixon]

Reminds me of an old joke, told to me by my dearly departed brother, back in '76....
the punch line was: If the Foo Shits...Wear it!It is easy to run your mouth on a forum and not have to back it up. Nixon.

[Wabash]

It is easy to run your mouth on a forum and not have to back it up. Nixon.


Some folks are very capable of backing it up...:wink...which leads me to believe, there are stupid people everywhere that underestimate others...

[nixon]

Some folks are very capable of backing it up...:wink...which leads me to believe, there are stupid people everywhere that underestimate others... I agee. You don't hear me calling anyone asshole or dickhead and make statements that others on this forum are going to whip anyone's ass. Solid Republicans,eh Wabs?

[Wabash]

I agee. You don't hear me calling anyone asshole or dickhead and make statements that others on this forum are going to whip anyone's ass. Solid Republicans,eh Wabs?

Well, now that you mention it...no you don't, but you do insult folks here in other ways....I don't think it has anything to do with a political party....it's universal...I do find that liberals can't stand to hear the truth and do "go off" more ...

[D2]

you sound like an idiot YDT.


because i'm a silly and ignorant layperson ??
where are your credentials??..who the hell are you supposed to be?
am i supposed to be imtimidated by your little private message? fug get about dit, jerkoff.
what a loser

[D2]

YDT...

because i'm a silly and ignorant layperson ??
where are your credentials??..who the hell are you supposed to be?
am i supposed to be imtimidated by your little private message? fug get about dit, jerkoff.
what a loser

[D2]

why aren't there edit buttons here to correct posts ???

[nixon]

Well, now that you mention it...no you don't, but you do insult folks here in other ways....I don't think it has anything to do with a political party....it's universal...I do find that liberals can't stand to hear the truth and do "go off" more ...Any time that it was brought to my attention, once as I recall, I apologized. And if my memory serves me correctly, it was a misunderstanding of my choice of words. The truth hurts about the current state of the GOP, the current state of the U.S. economy, the current state of our country. If my posts or my choice of words upsets anyone out there, I believe the reason they get upset over it is because they believe it to be true also. I said this before, I'm a Republican, and I'm not happy about my party or Bush or Cheney. So call me an asshole. Wow, that hurt. FUCKIN' A- None other than Nixon.

[D2]

The Center for Public Integrity and a Media Scam
by Seton Motley

Posted: 01/25/2008 Print This
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And you thought only the New York Times was engaged in not-for-profit journalism.

Behold the Center for Public Integrity (CPI), who on Wednesday made headlines across the nation with their report -- co-authored with the Fund for Independence in Journalism (FIJ) -- entitled “Iraq -- The War Card: Orchestrated Deception on the Path to War.”

The Establishment Media howled the study’s lead “finding” -- 935 false statements by Bush Administration officials in the two-year period leading up to the launch of the War. The Associated Press, CNN, MSNBC, the Washington Post and – of course - the New York Times were all exhilarated to once again climb aboard the “Bush Lied - People Died” Express.

Most of these news outlets referred to the report’s author organizations simply as “non-profit groups.” The New York Times described CPI as a “research group that focuses on ethics in government and public policy”.

MSNBC’s Dan Abrams went one step further, referring to CPI as a “non-profit, non-partisan investigative journalism group”. Dan Froomkin in his WashingtonPost.com blog hailed the “non-profit group pursuing old-fashioned accountability journalism.”

When we at the Media Research Center are referenced by the Legacy Press, the descriptions run like this: in 2006,MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann referred to us as a “rabid right-wing spin group”. On Wednesday night, however, Olbermann referred to CPI and FIJ merely as “two non-profit groups”.

(We, of course, thoroughly documented all of this and more in our CyberAlert, on our NewsBusters.org blog [here too] and in our Grey Lady sentinel, TimesWatch.org.)

Why all of this analysis of the media’s ideological-free descriptions of CPI and FIJ? Because they are both anything but ideology-free.

“They”, in fact, are really much closer to being an ‘It”. William Buzenberg is the Executive Director of the CPI -- he is also on the Board of Directors of FIJ. Bevis Longstreth is Chairman of the Board of Directors of FIJ -- and on the Board of Directors of CPI.

But where the lines on the graph come together is one Charles Lewis.
From 1977 through 1988, Lewis was an investigative reporter at ABC News, after which he moved on to CBS News to serve as a producer for senior correspondent Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes.

Lewis then founded CPI in 1989, and served as its Executive Director until December of 2004. FIJ was founded in 2003 by -- Charles Lewis, while he was still serving as CPI’s Executive Director.

We are sure Lewis and the media felt that two organizations working in tandem would give the report the appearance of greater intellectual heft than just one toiling alone. Which would be true, were the entities in question not joined at the hip.

This bit of disingenuousness on the part of Charles Lewis and his twin spinners is only the beginning of what you were not told by the media.

Recall if you will the myriad nondescript adjectives used to describe CPI and FIJ in print and by the Talking Heads on television. But if you look at the donor page and see who kicks in for this “non-partisan” pursuit of “old-fashioned accountability journalism”, it is difficult to reach their nondescript conclusion.
A prominent contributor to CPI is a foundation you may not know -- the Open Society Institute. Its founder, and funder, you most certainly do know -- left-wing mega-mogul George Soros, the godfather of a great many liberal institutions, most notably Media Matters for America and MoveOn.org. Soros may be most famous for spending roughly $40 million in his attempt to get Senator John Kerry elected President in 2004.

Speaking of Kerry, another CPI donor is the Heinz Endowments, a philanthropy run by Teresa Heinz Kerry, the formerly-prospective First Lady. Also in the money mix is the Streisand Foundation, run by the fabulously liberal Barbra Streisand.
In fact, their Supporters Page is a veritable Socialist, Anti-Bush, Anti-War What’s What and Who’s Who.
Now that we have established the bias of the organization(s), and the media reporting their (it’s) efforts, let us look at what that bias produced
President Bush said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq immediately prior to our invading Mesopotamia. Saddam Hussein indeed at one point had them -- we know this because he had used them, twice, on the Iranians and the Kurds. His every move right up to the moment we went in was calculated to foster the appearance that he had them still, lest his neighbors think him weak and vulnerable.

But in we went, and we found nothing. We had the wrong information. This is not a lie -- this is an error of fact..

But the media has never made this distinction. On Wednesday night, MSNBC’s Olbermann bannered “935 LIES” on screen atop a picture of Bush, Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, with “BUSH LIES BY THE NUMBERS: IRAQ UNTRUTHS TALLIED UP” beneath. To which he added his own drivel:

“So much for the theory of the administration's countless lies about Iraq: Two non-profit groups have done the algebra and show their math: 935 between 2001 and 2003, 935 false statements to the American people about the threat from Iraq.”

According to the CPI-FIJ study itself, at least 532 of the “false statements” cited -- more than half the grand total -- had to do with assertions that Iraq indeed had these weapons. So let us trip down memory lane and revisit some other “false statements” on the subject made at the very same time as those made by the Bush Administration, by non-Bush administration individuals.

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...”
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

“Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...”
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.


Could it be that the media has a double standard in place and in play here? It seems neither they nor their non-profit sources are non-partisan these days.

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Mr. Motley is the Director of Communications for the Media Research Center. If you like, or dislike, he may be reached electronically at SMotley@MediaResearch.org.

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[D2]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....:rofl:

[D2]

I agee. You don't hear me calling anyone asshole or dickhead and make statements that others on this forum are going to whip anyone's ass. Solid Republicans,eh Wabs?


prolly cause you are just a little girly boy.:sheep

[Yellowdogtexan]

YDT
where are your credentials??..who the hell are you supposed to be?I am a lawyer. bartonx is a layperson and so the threat by bartonx of a lawsuit was so very very silly that it was funny to me. Only a silly layperson would make such a threat and real lawyers laugh at laypeople like bartonx (we have humor sections in the bar journals to share silliness like bartonx's claims with other lawyers). Threats like this by people like bartonx are the reason why it is illegal for laypersons to practice law (i.e. laypersons are unable to understand legal issues).

[Yellowdogtexan]

The Center for Public Integrity and a Media Scam
by Seton MotleyDo you have a link for this piece of garbage? Sorry but conservatives on this board have not proven to be trustworthy and when lines aer not provided, I automatically wonder why.

[nixon]

You are a dickhead quoting another dickhead, what a waste of our time! No one can forgive you for being the ass hole you have chosen to be. Go away!Fuck you asshole, you DO NOT have it in you to make me , MOTHER FUCKER, EAT SHIT AND DIE, BITCH. Nixon.

[Lone Laugher]

Great source, there, D2. We all know L. Brent Bozell has no political bias at all.

Here are some of the MRC's financial backers:


The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
Sarah Scaife Foundation
Castle Rock Foundation
John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
The Carthage Foundation
JM Foundation

Do a little research.

[D2]

I am a lawyer. bartonx is a layperson and so the threat by bartonx of a lawsuit was so very very silly that it was funny to me. Only a silly layperson would make such a threat and real lawyers laugh at laypeople like bartonx (we have humor sections in the bar journals to share silliness like bartonx's claims with other lawyers). Threats like this by people like bartonx are the reason why it is illegal for laypersons to practice law (i.e. laypersons are unable to understand legal issues).
so....an ambulance chaser huh??
you must be lacking as a REAL ATTORNEY wouldn't be spending so much time on a message board trying to convince others that he is something special !!!
OMG...HA HA HA....:rofl:
:blah:blah:blah

[D2]

Do you have a link for this piece of garbage? Sorry but conservatives on this board have not proven to be trustworthy and when lines aer not provided, I automatically wonder why.



http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24655


there ya go AC

[D2]

YDT...you don't have to keep sending me messages thru the reputation system...
just post em here on the board for all to see

[Yellowdogtexan]

What a joke. Why don't just quote the free republic or newsmax? You do know that an affiliate of this new source were the people who gave press credentials to the gay prostitute who used to ask bush softball questions at press conferences.

Here is some more that I found about these bozos. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Media_Research_CenterExtra!, the magazine of the progressive media watch group Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting, has criticized the MRC for selective use of evidence--the MRC had complained, for example, that there was more coverage of government death squads in right-wing El Salvador than in left-wing Nicaragua, without mentioning that there were roughly a thousand times more extra-judicial killings in El Salvador. Extra! also characterized the MRC as wanting to force out of the media any opinions that it disagreed with, even tracking the off-screen political comments of actors in a project that the magazine said "bore an uncomfortable resemblance to Red Channels, the McCarthy Era blacklisting journal." [2]

The liberal media watch group Media Matters for America has also repeatedly criticized the MRC, charging that they view the media "through a funhouse mirror that renders everything--even the facts themselves--as manifestations of insidious bias." [3]In addition, these bozos are professional global warming deniers funded by Exxon. http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=110These guys are as credible as drudge.

[Wabash]

Any time that it was brought to my attention, once as I recall, I apologized. And if my memory serves me correctly, it was a misunderstanding of my choice of words. The truth hurts about the current state of the GOP, the current state of the U.S. economy, the current state of our country. If my posts or my choice of words upsets anyone out there, I believe the reason they get upset over it is because they believe it to be true also. I said this before, I'm a Republican, and I'm not happy about my party or Bush or Cheney. So call me an asshole. Wow, that hurt. FUCKIN' A- None other than Nixon.
Wanna bet!
Fuck you asshole, you DO NOT have it in you to make me , MOTHER FUCKER, EAT SHIT AND DIE, BITCH. Nixon.
See above! You gonna apologize for that?...are you seething yet? Wonders never cease!

Great source, there, D2. We all know L. Brent Bozell has no political bias at all.

Here are some of the MRC's financial backers:


The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
Sarah Scaife Foundation
Castle Rock Foundation
John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
The Carthage Foundation
JM Foundation

Do a little research.
An actual post with some effort other than derisive comments!

so....an ambulance chaser huh??
you must be lacking as a REAL ATTORNEY wouldn't be spending so much time on a message board trying to convince others that he is something special !!!
OMG...HA HA HA....:rofl:
:blah:blah:blah
I made the same comment last week D2.....all the attys. I know work many long hours and have little or no time to be on a msg. board....let alone be a mod on one...

[Lone Laugher]

Yo Nixon,

The following link, if followed and then scrolled down to post # 79 will show a picture of the infamous internet tough guy, Wabash. Just thought you'd enjoy.


http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=12597&highlight=members+pictures&page=8

[nixon]

Wanna bet!

See above! You gonna apologize for that?...are you seething yet? Wonders never cease!


An actual post with some effort other than derisive comments!


I made the same comment last week D2.....all the attys. I know work many long hours and have little or no time to be on a msg. board....let alone be a mod on one...Fuck you , you fat fuck. Buy A Harley. Nixon.

[D2]

What a joke. Why don't just quote the free republic or newsmax? You do know that an affiliate of this new source were the people who gave press credentials to the gay prostitute who used to ask bush softball questions at press conferences.

Here is some more that I found about these bozos. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Media_Research_CenterIn addition, these bozos are professional global warming deniers funded by Exxon. http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=110These guys are as credible as drudge.

my source is ENTIRELY as reputable as ANY source YOU put up...
you don't like it so it's a lie, right ???

i didn't like slick willy lying to the grand jury and the american people either but truth is truth.
tand thats the problem with you liberal...as jack nicholson would say....YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH !!

you libs are still SO mad at losing the election...it's just too damn funny for words...so i think i'll laugh :lmao
:rofl:

[D2]

here are comments from MY site that MY report came from !



A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!!

Those quotes are something I never forgot. Nor did I forget those same people when Bill Clinton Bombed Iraq two days before his impeachment vote. Why did he do that?

"Saddam Hussein must not have his weapons of mass destruction."

This is why Bill supported Bush's venture into Iraq-he didn't want his legacy to be so strongly linked to his attacks there as an effort to get Monica off of the 24/7 news cycle.

Madelaine Allbright, Al Gore, John Kerry and the rest all backed this unantagonized missle attack, and parroted the WMD intelligence--the same we had for Bush.

The other lost issue is that Saddam was shooting at our planes. He was also refusing inspectors to the point of decision--and I love the fact that we called him on it.

Lastly, the NYT and CPI are what they are--political issuances of the left kind. As the NYT stock plummets, I smile, and play the music CD I made that spits in their eye--'Blaming America First' and they always do! hear it @

www.conservativemusiconline.comLance Truscott Morrison, CAJan 25, 2008 @ 04:10 AM
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Soros and this gang are all communists and are here to transform America into a socialist country. Beware people. This group has taken over the democrat party and will attempt to destroy the constitution. Soros should be thrown in jail for this stuff. These people are one of the top three most dangerous threats to our country. If you give money to these originations you are donating to our demise as a free nation. Lock and load people, the next revolution is coming.Monty S., IllinoisJan 25, 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Brilliant. I love it when you can throw their own hypocritical words back in their faces.Ron, ConnecticutJan 25, 2008 @ 01:58 PM

[Wabash]

Yo Nixon,

The following link, if followed and then scrolled down to post # 79 will show a picture of the infamous internet tough guy, Wabash. Just thought you'd enjoy.


http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=12597&highlight=members+pictures&page=8
Yep...I'm a lot tougher than anything you could imagine LL...that pic was on a Good Day! If you had any balls at all, being a girly guy, you'd put up a picture of your weasely self!
Fuck you , you fat fuck. Buy A Harley. Nixon.
Guzzi beats a Harley 6 ways to Sunday...Fuck yourself you little twit! I've been riding bikes for 40 years and I've ridden all current brands and some out of production...I chose the Guzzi!

[nixon]

here are comments from MY site that MY report came from !



A-W-E-S-O-M-E!!!!!

Those quotes are something I never forgot. Nor did I forget those same people when Bill Clinton Bombed Iraq two days before his impeachment vote. Why did he do that?

"Saddam Hussein must not have his weapons of mass destruction."

This is why Bill supported Bush's venture into Iraq-he didn't want his legacy to be so strongly linked to his attacks there as an effort to get Monica off of the 24/7 news cycle.

Madelaine Allbright, Al Gore, John Kerry and the rest all backed this unantagonized missle attack, and parroted the WMD intelligence--the same we had for Bush.

The other lost issue is that Saddam was shooting at our planes. He was also refusing inspectors to the point of decision--and I love the fact that we called him on it.

Lastly, the NYT and CPI are what they are--political issuances of the left kind. As the NYT stock plummets, I smile, and play the music CD I made that spits in their eye--'Blaming America First' and they always do! hear it @

www.conservativemusiconline.comLance Truscott Morrison, CAJan 25, 2008 @ 04:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Soros and this gang are all communists and are here to transform America into a socialist country. Beware people. This group has taken over the democrat party and will attempt to destroy the constitution. Soros should be thrown in jail for this stuff. These people are one of the top three most dangerous threats to our country. If you give money to these originations you are donating to our demise as a free nation. Lock and load people, the next revolution is coming.Monty S., IllinoisJan 25, 2008 @ 11:32 AM
Report Abusive Post
Brilliant. I love it when you can throw their own hypocritical words back in their faces.Ron, ConnecticutJan 25, 2008 @ 01:58 PMMy point exactly, doesn't matter if your a Rep or Dem, our government is failing us.

[Lone Laugher]

Wabsy....there is a pic of me up on this site. Find it. Put it up on this thread. Have yet ANOTHER reason to be jealous of me.

[nixon]

Yep...I'm a lot tougher than anything you could imagine LL...that pic was on a Good Day! If you had any balls at all, being a girly guy, you'd put up a picture of your weasely self!

Guzzi beats a Harley 6 ways to Sunday...Fuck yourself you little twit!I got a '69 E-glide it'll run circles around that stove you call a scoot, Bitch. I ain't so little. Nixon.

[nixon]

Oh yeah, Wabs, one more thing- FUCKIN'A. Nixon.

[Lone Laugher]

I got a '69 E-glide it'll run circles around that stove you call a scoot, Bitch. I ain't so little. Nixon.


I can imagine some pretty tough stuff, Wabsy. One thing I know...tough guys almost NEVER say they are tough. I'm not so tough. You could be an exception to that rule...but I doubt it.

Another thing I know. You can't fake being big. I am a a pretty good sized fella. You ain't.

[nixon]

Yep...I'm a lot tougher than anything you could imagine LL...that pic was on a Good Day! If you had any balls at all, being a girly guy, you'd put up a picture of your weasely self!

Guzzi beats a Harley 6 ways to Sunday...Fuck yourself you little twit! I've been riding bikes for 40 years and I've ridden all current brands and some out of production...I chose the Guzzi!You chose a Guzzi because your a jerk-off. That is your choice.. to be a jerk-off on a Guzzi. Fuckin' A. Nixon.

[Trueblue]

Regarding the 2000 election, you've got your facts and your understanding wrong.

No....I Don't
you do

Nope, D2, I can bury you in facts on this topic. You have no idea.

i don't expect anything of them, Wabby.
hell...thats why WE have to give them money to live...because they have no intelligence or abilities beyond cashing their gov. check every month and making sure they get in the right line for the food stamps

You think I'm on food stamps????? :lol

I wonder what the silly moronic Libs are gonna do when they don't have Bush to kick around anymore....suicide from boredom would be a good option!

Maybe we'll take a page from your book and still be talking about him seven years from now. :rofl Have you tried suicide to get over your frustration at Clinton being out of office? You haven't? Then why are you asking us this dumb question?

[Yellowdogtexan]

Here is a good story on these studies and the lies told by the bushies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ef3C7h52Cs

[Wabash]

Wabsy....there is a pic of me up on this site. Find it. Put it up on this thread. Have yet ANOTHER reason to be jealous of me.
Jealous of you? Not likely, I've never been jealous of anyone...don't hate, not jealous...more wasted emotion.
Get a grip....

I got a '69 E-glide it'll run circles around that stove you call a scoot, Bitch. I ain't so little. Nixon.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! You are more stupid than I thought...I had a Harley for a short time....they haven't done much to update them...still old design ...I sold it quickly...

I can imagine some pretty tough stuff, Wabsy. One thing I know...tough guys almost NEVER say they are tough. I'm not so tough. You could be an exception to that rule...but I doubt it.

Another thing I know. You can't fake being big. I am a a pretty good sized fella. You ain't.
You can't tell from that pic how big I am and big doesn't guarantee bad....I know two Navy Seals and one Marine that are smaller than I am and I'd never want to tangle with them...

You chose a Guzzi because your a jerk-off. That is your choice.. to be a jerk-off on a Guzzi. Fuckin' A. Nixon.

I'm not gonna converse with you any longer nix....you are the jerkoff for sure! Pointless even .....

[nixon]

Jealous of you? Not likely, I've never been jealous of anyone...don't hate, not jealous...more wasted emotion.
Get a grip....


Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! You are more stupid than I thought...I had a Harley for a short time....they haven't done much to update them...still old design ...I sold it quickly...


You can't tell from that pic how big I am and big doesn't guarantee bad....I know two Navy Seals and one Marine that are smaller than I am and I'd never want to tangle with them...



I'm not gonna converse with you any longer nix....you are the jerkoff for sure! Pointless even .....O.K.

[BartonX]

Fuck you asshole, you DO NOT have it in you to make me , MOTHER FUCKER, EAT SHIT AND DIE, BITCH. Nixon.


You were told to quit insulting people twice now, this is a moderated thred! :LL

[nixon]

You were told to quit insulting people twice now, this is a moderated thred! :LLO.K.

[BartonX]

Damn...........that was easy! :rofl

[nixon]

Damn...........that was easy! :rofl So , once again, when are we ridin'

[BartonX]

Today I hope it is supposed to be 52

[Trueblue]

Here is a good story on these studies and the lies told by the bushies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ef3C7h52Cs

:bump

[D2]

Yep...I'm a lot tougher than anything you could imagine LL...that pic was on a Good Day! If you had any balls at all, being a girly guy, you'd put up a picture of your weasely self!

Guzzi beats a Harley 6 ways to Sunday...Fuck yourself you little twit! I've been riding bikes for 40 years and I've ridden all current brands and some out of production...I chose the Guzzi!

HA !!...you looked tough enough to me Wabby. no doubt you can deal with any of these wussies!!!
hahahahahahaha

[Yellowdogtexan]

Condi Rice was caught telling lies to Congress today and called on it. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5689In a statement just released by his office, Wexler says she "falsely testified" in response to his questions...
Secretary Rice Falsely Testified She Never Saw Intelligence Disputing Administration Claims that Iraq Possessed WMDs

(Washington, DC) Today, in reponse to questioning by Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL) , Chairman of the Subcommittee on Europe and a senior member of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice falsely claimed she never saw intelligence casting doubt on Administration claims that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of destruction. Numerous sources including the 2006 Senate Intelligence Report, a January 2004 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace report, as well as former CIA agents including Tyler Drumheller have pointed out that there was contrary intelligence to the information provided to the Bush Administration in the lead up to the Iraq war.

Congressman Wexler further questioned Secretary Rice on the over 900 false statements made by White House officials leading up to the war as recently reported by the Center for Public Integrity.

[Saguaro]

I am so very tired of the lies

[nixon]

I am so very tired of the liesThat's all it will ever be.

[Yellowdogtexan]

Here is some more on Condi's lies to Rep. Wexler. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/14/condi-wexler-lies/Last month, the Center for Public Integrity and the Fund for Independence in Journalism released a study finding that the Bush administration made “at least 935 false statements” preceding the invasion of Iraq. Condoleezza Rice, who served as National Security Adviser at the time, made 56 false statements.

During a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing yesterday, Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL) pressed Rice to explain the inconsistencies, asking “isn’t it true that you had intelligence that cast doubt on your repeated claims?” “No, it’s not true,” replied Rice tersely.

Wexler then pointed out that Rice was lying when she said it was “not true” and that there had been “intelligence that cast doubt” on the administration’s pre-war claims:WEXLER: I simply asked if you had intelligence that was contrary to the intelligence that you reported repeatedly to the American people…

RICE: Congressman, I would…

WEXLER: … that Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction.

RICE: Congressman, I would suggest that you go back and read the key judgments of 2002. I think that will answer your question.

WEXLER: Yes. And the answer to the question, Madam Secretary, is that, in fact, there were contrary reports. You chose to weigh the reports.In 2001, Rice argued, “We are able to keep arms from [Saddam]. His military forces have not been rebuilt.” In the lead-up to war, she began making the opposite case.

In her response yesterday, Rice conceded that there was “disagreement” in the intelligence community about “whether or not” Iraq “had reconstituted their nuclear weapons program.” But in 2002, Rice emphatically stated there was no doubt about the intelligence:RICE: We do know that he is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. We do know that there have been shipments going into Iran, for instance — into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that really are only suited to — high-quality aluminum tools that are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs.In fact, the potential use of the aluminum tubes was one of the main points of disagreement within the intelligence community. According to the New York Times, “almost a year before” Rice made her statement on the tubes, her “staff had been told that the government’s foremost nuclear experts seriously doubted that the tubes were for nuclear weapons.” “Ms. Rice knew about the debate,” the paper reported.
It is clear that Condi lied to congress here.

[Yellowdogtexan]

As noted below, a number of the lies documented in this study related to the so-called links between Saddam and Bin Ladin. The pentagon has now provided pretty strong documentation that such claims were false.http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/todays_must_read_293.phpIf there's one thing the Bush Administration has demonstrated, it's the difficulty of proving a negative.

It took a number of months after the invasion of weapons inspectors crawling all over Iraq to show that Saddam Hussein did not, in fact, have weapons of mass destruction. And it's time to chalk up another victory for completeness.

A good portion of those 935 false statements uttered by administration officials in the run-up to the invasion had to do with claims of Iraq ties to Al Qaeda. That was, in part, thanks to the intelligence shenanigans of Doug Feith at the Pentagon, but of course it was an administration-wide mentality. Which explains that even after the 9/11 Commission found that there was no significant relationship, they kept on pleading the point.

Well, I think it's time to finally consider this negative proven:An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, U.S. officials told McClatchy. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.

The new study of the Iraqi regime's archives found no documents indicating a "direct operational link" between Hussein's Iraq and al Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report.So what's next?Of course, those idiots who think that there still are WMDs will ignore this study because they do want the real world to interfer with the makebelieve world.

[issac the dragon]

Has anyone told McSame? The ability to lie is a Republican virtue. She could well be his running mate. Woops, his staff wants to keep him away from women.

[Trueblue]

Has anyone told McSame? The ability to lie is a Republican virtue. She could well be his running mate. Woops, his staff wants to keep him away from women.

:snicker