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sparks
01-16-2008, 03:07 PM
There really doesn't seem to be any consensus to what the "age of reason' is for a child. The Church calls the "age of reason" at about 8 years of age when they consider it old enough to make the decision of whether or not a child wants to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior...thus that's the age a lot of kids go through their first communion.

The government wants to pass laws limiting parents from being able to smoke in their cars if children under the age of 16 are present...so apparently according to the government a child of the age of 16 is able to make a choice of whether or not to get in the car with a smoking parent, even though they're still legally under the age of 18 and a dependent of the parent.

And then there is the magical age of 18, where one can choose to serve in the military but they're still too young to enjoy a beer on their own. Nope, ya gotta be 21 for that little adventure!

Pregnancy seems to take care of the issue by the biological functioning of the body, instead of a mandate by society. When a girl starts menstruating, technically she's of an age to have a child, although she may not be mentally or financially prepared for the task. Her body doesn't necessarily need to be married to do so either, although society has expectations on the matter there is no legal precedence.

And then of course there's the issue of marriage. How old does one have to be to engage in that endeavor? Well, let's see...some states say 14...others say 16 and yet others say you've got to be 18 before one can consider marriage, even though if they do get married at the age of 18, they still can't have that beer! :roll

So...there doesn't really seem to be any consensus as to what the "age of reason" really is in our society. As a matter of fact it seems to be all over the place! Thoughts?

Trueblue
01-16-2008, 03:09 PM
It seems to be a sort of process. We allow kids to be exposed to somewhat more risk, or responsiblity, as they age. Kids brains don't completely mature till they are in their twenties. Eighteen is just a sort of average.

cassandra
01-16-2008, 03:21 PM
I think that is a very interesting point to discuss. Of course my answer is just as vague as the laws. I think that each child reaches their age of reason on their own. Some are still looking for it in their 30's or older.

sparks
01-16-2008, 03:34 PM
I have to agree that I think it's different with each child. While one child may get married at the age of 14 and stay married all of their life to the same person (ie Loretta Lynn), another child has barely outgrown baby dolls at that age. :shrug

So...why does society try to mandate certain activities at given ages? Isn't that really the parents job to decide individually for their children? After all, don't the parents know their child better than our government would?

I'm sure there are probably a lot of 12 year olds who could drive just as well if not better than a 16 year old. Especially if they were brought up on a farm driving a tractor around the grounds.

cassandra
01-16-2008, 03:36 PM
Sparks I agree with you. HOwever, many people think that the government needs to control all things that they don't trust parents to. Bottom line is that there are lots of terrible parents out there. IMO this is these people's idea of putting a band-aid on that.

Oceanbreeze
01-16-2008, 04:03 PM
I have to agree that I think it's different with each child. While one child may get married at the age of 14 and stay married all of their life to the same person (ie Loretta Lynn), another child has barely outgrown baby dolls at that age. :shrug

So...why does society try to mandate certain activities at given ages? Isn't that really the parents job to decide individually for their children? After all, don't the parents know their child better than our government would?

I'm sure there are probably a lot of 12 year olds who could drive just as well if not better than a 16 year old. Especially if they were brought up on a farm driving a tractor around the grounds.

I agree with you on marriage and driving.

However, there are (God don't strike me down in front of TB and YTD :lmao) scientific studies about smoking and the dangers of second hand smoke.

sparks
01-16-2008, 04:11 PM
I agree with you on marriage and driving.

However, there are (God don't strike me down in front of TB and YTD :lmao) scientific studies about smoking and the dangers of second hand smoke.

There's also "scientific studies" that smoking can prevent Parkinson's disease. :shrug

Everything in life has it's upside as well as it's downside. Everything.

Trueblue
01-16-2008, 04:25 PM
Yes, and nicotine helps with Alzheimer's. I'm not picking it up on that account, though.

I don't think that 12 year olds can drive on the roads, regardless of their experience. It has to do with reflexes and judgment, and height!!!

Sweet Tart
01-16-2008, 04:33 PM
http://www.support4change.com/stages/cycles/Erikson.html

Trueblue
01-16-2008, 04:37 PM
That's a good link, Tart.

sparks
01-16-2008, 04:43 PM
Yes, and nicotine helps with Alzheimer's. I'm not picking it up on that account, though.

I don't think that 12 year olds can drive on the roads, regardless of their experience. It has to do with reflexes and judgment, and height!!!

I can understand the height issue, but most 12 year olds have very quick reflexes as evidenced by the video games they seem to be able to master.