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Kurtz

01-06-2008, 08:54 AM

ORLANDO, Fla. - The home of Mickey Mouse, Tigger and Tinkerbell has banned kids from its fanciest restaurant.

Beginning this week, children under 10 are no longer welcome at Victoria & Albert's in the Grand Floridian Resort & Spa. Victoria & Albert's is Walt Disney World's only restaurant with an AAA five-diamond rating.

"We want to be the restaurant that's available for that adult experience," said general manager Israel Perez.

Only about three families a month ever brought young children to Victoria & Albert's, said Rosemary Rose, Disney's vice president for food, beverage and merchandise operations.

Men are required to wear jackets, and women must wear dresses or pantsuits. The hushed atmosphere features live harp music, and the menu, which changes daily, offers seven-course dinners that can last as long as three hours. Prices start at $125 a person.

Rose noted that there are plenty of dining options for families at Disney, which World has 97 other full-service restaurants.

Children Banned (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080105/ap_on_fe_st/odd_restaurant_no_children)

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There is a God!!

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 09:09 AM

You think that's a good thing, Kurtz?

I think Walt Disney would roll over in his grave. He was about the children. Maybe a restaurant like that doesn't belong in Disneyworld.

Sweet Tart

01-06-2008, 09:12 AM

:twitch

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 09:15 AM

:twitch

Ya got something in your eye, Tart?

sparks

01-06-2008, 09:19 AM

It is odd that Disneyworld would ban children from anything. I mean...that's where they made their fortune! From appealing to what the children want and desire.

While I agree that having small children in a fine dining restaurant may be difficult for some patrons, it just doesn't seem to fit the spirit of Disneyworld.

But...having said that...they do have that whole area that has nightclubs and so forth (Pleasure Island) and that is strictly for the adults. :shrug

Pleasure Island at Disney (http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/wdw/entertainment/entertainmentDetail?id=PleasureIslandEntertainment Page&bhcp=1)

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 09:33 AM

sparks

01-06-2008, 09:38 AM

It just isn't in keeping with what Walt would have done. Oh well...money, money, money...always talks. :)

Yes it does! :yep

You really didn't buy that whole "money for nothing and your chicks for free" bit, did ya? :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaKWXqXkhw

Sweet Tart

01-06-2008, 09:55 AM

I think its wrong to ban kids from Disney. Disney IS kids.

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 10:01 AM

Yes it does! :yep

You really didn't buy that whole "money for nothing and your chicks for free" bit, did ya? :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaKWXqXkhw
No, I didn't buy it, sparks....but it's nice to dream.
Not the chicks free bit...chicks aren't my style...:D
I think its wrong to ban kids from Disney. Disney IS kids.

Yes, Disney is kids. I totally agree. Plus...it's some place I can go and be at home in. I can be a kid. :D

Sweet Tart

01-06-2008, 10:05 AM

Exactly :lol

Why go to Disney to wear a pant suit? :para

Trueblue

01-06-2008, 10:07 AM

I don't like amusement parks. :para

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 10:10 AM

I don't like amusement parks. :para
What???? How can you not? Being from CA I have been to Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, Universal Studios, Magic Mountain, the Wax museum. Not once, but numerous times. I would take my kids and enjoy being a kid with them. It's exciting! Watching your children's faces when they see the magic!

Kurtz

01-06-2008, 10:16 AM

You think that's a good thing, Kurtz?

I think Walt Disney would roll over in his grave. He was about the children. Maybe a restaurant like that doesn't belong in Disneyworld.

Lots of folks need to have some place where they can get away from kids. An upscale restaurant is a good place to prohibit "the world revolves around kids" mentality, especially since kids ain't the ones footin' the bill for the good time to be had by all ages at Disney.

Now Vegas is a place where kids should be outlawed. :electric

Trueblue

01-06-2008, 10:16 AM

What???? How can you not? Being from CA I have been to Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, Universal Studios, Magic Mountain, the Wax museum. Not once, but numerous times. I would take my kids and enjoy being a kid with them. It's exciting! Watching your children's faces when they see the magic!

I don't like standing in lines and rubbing up against people-at least not unless I've selected them for rubbing up against. :lol

I like the mountains and the beach better. I like being a kid with my kids, but not in this particular way.

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 10:28 AM

Lots of folks need to have some place where they can get away from kids. An upscale restaurant is a good place to prohibit "the world revolves around kids" mentality, especially since kids ain't the ones footin' the bill for the good time to be had by all ages at Disney.

Now Vegas is a place where kids should be outlawed. :electric

I don't believe we have the world revolves around kids mentality. Disneyland is about kids. As far as Vegas, I agree totally with you there. I think they made it kid friendly to get more people to come there. Money, Money, Money.

I don't like standing in lines and rubbing up against people-at least not unless I've selected them for rubbing up against. :lol

I like the mountains and the beach better. I like being a kid with my kids, but not in this particular way.

Living in CA and knowing the off peak times, I was able to take my children to those places with hardly anyone there. No one rubbing up against me without me wanting it :D...and no lines. Many times you just walked right up and got right on the ride. The beach and the mountains are experiences every child should have. :)

Trueblue

01-06-2008, 10:31 AM

I don't believe we have the world revolves around kids mentality. Disneyland is about kids. As far as Vegas, I agree totally with you there. I think they made it kid friendly to get more people to come there. Money, Money, Money.

Living in CA and knowing the off peak times, I was able to take my children to those places with hardly anyone there. No one rubbing up against me without me wanting it :D...and no lines. Many times you just walked right up and got right on the ride. The beach and the mountains are experiences every child should have. :)

You aren't going to convince me at this point, Sunny. :D I don't care for these big amusement parks. Anytime I went, there were big crowds, long lines, and the fun to non-fun ratio was way off, and the money flowed out like water.

Have I had fun at times in those parks? Yeah, but as I said, the ratio is way off.

I knew people wouldn't agree, that's why I wrote it small. :D

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 10:34 AM

You aren't going to convince me at this point, Sunny. :D I don't care for these big amusement parks. Anytime I went, there were big crowds, long lines, and the fun to non-fun ratio was way off, and the money flowed out like water.

Have I had fun at times in those parks? Yeah, but as I said, the ratio is way off.

I knew people wouldn't agree, that's why I wrote it small. :D

Trueblue...I'm glad you stated how you feel. :) You are entitled to feel how you feel. It has gotten so crowded in CA now, there may not be off times like there used to be.

Trueblue

01-06-2008, 10:35 AM

Trueblue...I'm glad you stated how you feel. :) You are entitled to feel how you feel. It has gotten so crowded in CA now, there may not be off times like there used to be.

:thanks

:)

Kurtz

01-06-2008, 10:43 AM

I don't believe we have the world revolves around kids mentality. Disneyland is about kids. As far as Vegas, I agree totally with you there. I think they made it kid friendly to get more people to come there. Money, Money, Money.

I don't know about DisneyLand, but DisneyWorld is very much into the money, money, money. And now it's evidenced even more with their prohibition of kids at this particular restaurant.

I've always thought Disney should have one day a month so the parks could be enjoyed by folks who don't want to see a bunch of parents jerkin' their kids around 'n screamin' at 'em to have a good time. :lol

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 11:43 AM

I don't know about DisneyLand, but

I've always thought Disney should have one day a month so the parks could be enjoyed by folks who don't want to see a bunch of parents jerkin' their kids around 'n screamin' at 'em to have a good time. :lol

Although, that sounds like a good idea, I wonder how profitable it would be for Disney to do that? :)

Kurtz

01-06-2008, 11:48 AM

I don't know about DisneyLand, but DisneyWorld is very much into the money, money, money. And now it's evidenced even more with their prohibition of kids at this particular restaurant.

I've always thought Disney should have one day a month so the parks could be enjoyed by folks who don't want to see a bunch of parents jerkin' their kids around 'n screamin' at 'em to have a good time. :lol

Although, that sounds like a good idea, I wonder how profitable it would be for Disney to do that? :)

Wonder if they've ever put the pencil to the idea?

I'd certainly go on that day, for sure, 'n I'd go with
folks who know how to have a really good time...laid back!

:party

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 11:53 AM

Wonder if they've ever put the pencil to the idea?

I'd certainly go on that day, for sure, 'n I'd go with
folks who know how to have a really good time...laid back!

:party

Start a petition and see how many sign it. The problem I can see is that since it's only one day a month that getting enough people to want to go there on a certain day that have no children would probably prove to be difficult.

GreenEyedLady

01-06-2008, 12:19 PM

I got to thinking...that's where the smoke you see is coming from...:D

I bet it would work to do it once a year. People would know what day like a year in advance and could plan for it a lot better. :) Or maybe twice a year.

Disneyland has closed it's doors to the public on occasion for special things to happen, so I see it as being a feasible thing, but probably not on a monthly basis.

Partyless

01-06-2008, 01:40 PM

I think its wrong to ban kids from Disney. Disney IS kids.

Blame that on the great marketeers at Disney Inc. they expanded and expanded and created nightclub experiences, sold wedding packages, basically went after the demographic that would stay out later, spend more money, and thus make them more profit.

Frankly, anyone who's all torked that a five star restaurant requiring reservations and men to wear jackets won't allow toddlers or offer a kids meal is out of touch. Don't get me wrong - I love kids - especially my own - but children don't belong in every situation adults do. Of the top of my head those include - fine dining establishments, R rated movies after 8pm, evening theater performances, and many times - First Class sections on airplanes (my Neal Boortz is showing LOL).

I can't stand parents with the 'just because i have a child, my life won't change' attitudes - um, yeah it did! And to expect Chez Really Nice Restaurant to suddenly cater to your 4 year old and offer chicken nuggets and fries is ridiculous and selfish. Get a sitter and shut the hell up! :semmy

Kurtz

01-06-2008, 04:07 PM

Start a petition and see how many sign it. The problem I can see is that since it's only one day a month that getting enough people to want to go there on a certain day that have no children would probably prove to be difficult.

Disney doesn't thrill me that much. :lmao

I got to thinking...that's where the smoke you see is coming from...:D

I bet it would work to do it once a year. People would know what day like a year in advance and could plan for it a lot better. :) Or maybe twice a year.

Disneyland has closed it's doors to the public on occasion for special things to happen, so I see it as being a feasible thing, but probably not on a monthly basis.

You're probably right on that one day a year thang,
I might go on that one day, course, still with cool folks.
:party

Blame that on the great marketeers at Disney Inc. they expanded and expanded and created nightclub experiences, sold wedding packages, basically went after the demographic that would stay out later, spend more money, and thus make them more profit.

Frankly, anyone who's all torked that a five star restaurant requiring reservations and men to wear jackets won't allow toddlers or offer a kids meal is out of touch. Don't get me wrong - I love kids - especially my own - but children don't belong in every situation adults do. Of the top of my head those include - fine dining establishments, R rated movies after 8pm, evening theater performances, and many times - First Class sections on airplanes (my Neal Boortz is showing LOL).

I can't stand parents with the 'just because i have a child, my life won't change' attitudes - um, yeah it did! And to expect Chez Really Nice Restaurant to suddenly cater to your 4 year old and offer chicken nuggets and fries is ridiculous and selfish. Get a sitter and shut the hell up! :semmy

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FOR REAL!

01-06-2008, 07:03 PM

I can't stand parents with the 'just because i have a child, my life won't change' attitudes - um, yeah it did! And to expect Chez Really Nice Restaurant to suddenly cater to your 4 year old and offer chicken nuggets and fries is ridiculous and selfish. Get a sitter and shut the hell up!

Plus how many weddings are there at Disney? I think that there should be an adult only restaurant.

crazierthanever

01-06-2008, 09:43 PM

Frankly, anyone who's all torked that a five star restaurant requiring reservations and men to wear jackets won't allow toddlers or offer a kids meal is out of touch. Don't get me wrong - I love kids - especially my own - but children don't belong in every situation adults do. Of the top of my head those include - fine dining establishments, R rated movies after 8pm, evening theater performances, and many times - First Class sections on airplanes (my Neal Boortz is showing LOL).

I can't stand parents with the 'just because i have a child, my life won't change' attitudes - um, yeah it did! And to expect Chez Really Nice Restaurant to suddenly cater to your 4 year old and offer chicken nuggets and fries is ridiculous and selfish. Get a sitter and shut the hell up! :semmy

YES!!!!

Saguaro

01-06-2008, 09:46 PM

I love kids, had 2 of them. I have 2 grandaughters,but I am thrilled to not have to deal with kids when I so choose

cassandra

01-06-2008, 10:00 PM

I think that this is not a good business choice for Disney. While trying to please everyone they are making people feel bad.

I am not totally into the commercialism that is Disney. However, temper that with a Momma who just bought 5 seats for Disney Princess on Ice today and you have me. :lol

Kurtz

01-06-2008, 10:21 PM

cassandra

01-07-2008, 12:19 AM

That's why I don't even try. :wink

Viki

01-07-2008, 05:49 AM

Wonder if they've ever put the pencil to the idea?

I'd certainly go on that day, for sure, 'n I'd go with
folks who know how to have a really good time...laid back!

:party

OH, sure, it's little known, but WDW often closes one of their parks for special events for the evening... when I was a teen in FLA, they had grad night (only HS seniors allowed) and they also rent out the parks to those who can come up with the cash.

I've been to V&A's exactly once and it is a very adult experience (two of us dropped over $700 on one dinner - my caviar alone was $100.00) and it's not a place for kids.

01-07-2008, 06:48 AM

I've been to V&A's exactly once and it is a very adult experience (two of us dropped over $700 on one dinner - my caviar alone was $100.00) and it's not a place for kids.

I have a problem spending as much for dinner as I do for my entire month of groceries!

Kurtz

01-07-2008, 07:46 AM

OH, sure, it's little known, but WDW often closes one of their parks for special events for the evening... when I was a teen in FLA, they had grad night (only HS seniors allowed) and they also rent out the parks to those who can come up with the cash.

I've been to V&A's exactly once and it is a very adult experience (two of us dropped over $700 on one dinner - my caviar alone was $100.00) and it's not a place for kids.

Well, there ya have it folks. If I ever get filthy stinkin' rich,
I'll rent us a park for the night, just for TPAers 'n their kids. :lmao
:party

Partyless

01-07-2008, 08:57 AM

ya can't please everybody, even if you're a momma. :lmao

More like ESPECIALLY If you're a momma - ever been to a PTA meeting? :rofl2

Sweet Tart

01-07-2008, 09:52 AM

More like ESPECIALLY If you're a momma - ever been to a PTA meeting? :rofl2

:panic :twitch :panic

Viki

01-07-2008, 10:13 AM

I have a problem spending as much for dinner as I do for my entire month of groceries!

LOL ... the part I left out is we saved up for twenty years!

cassandra

01-07-2008, 11:03 AM

I have a problem spending as much for dinner as I do for my entire month of groceries!

I think that if you had to make the choice between dinner for one night or the week then you are right.

IMO there is nothing wrong with a once in a lifetime kind of decadent treat like this.

Oceanbreeze

01-07-2008, 12:22 PM

Blame that on the great marketeers at Disney Inc. they expanded and expanded and created nightclub experiences, sold wedding packages, basically went after the demographic that would stay out later, spend more money, and thus make them more profit.

Frankly, anyone who's all torked that a five star restaurant requiring reservations and men to wear jackets won't allow toddlers or offer a kids meal is out of touch. Don't get me wrong - I love kids - especially my own - but children don't belong in every situation adults do. Of the top of my head those include - fine dining establishments, R rated movies after 8pm, evening theater performances, and many times - First Class sections on airplanes (my Neal Boortz is showing LOL).

I can't stand parents with the 'just because i have a child, my life won't change' attitudes - um, yeah it did! And to expect Chez Really Nice Restaurant to suddenly cater to your 4 year old and offer chicken nuggets and fries is ridiculous and selfish. Get a sitter and shut the hell up! :semmy

Amen to that and I have a 9 and 12 year old! Google the place and check it out....first class. I only disagree with ya about first class air. :zen

On the Disney Cruise they have an adults ONLY restraurant and an adults ONLY pool. :paclap

We took our kids to Las Vegas July '07...we had a great time...then again we did do all kids stuff. :snicker