VIRTUE FOR ITS OWN SAKE

[issac the dragon]

What do you really think of what most people regard as virtue?

I find that many so called virtues are throughly obnoxious traits. Such as charity. It is awful to receive it. And makes the giver sanctimonious. I suppose it takes a greater amount of grace to do either well.

Hope can be dangerous if things aren't ever likely to get better. Facing the truth and dealing with it is a better choice. And why would anyone give hope falsely? But people often do.

A great many people dislike Hillary for remaining with her husband, but faithfulness is supposed to be a virtue.

Are there any virtues you are comfortable with? Any that come easy to you? Any you hate, in yourself or others? I hate the one that comes easiest to me. Detachment. The ability to stand aside and see a situation from a dispassionate view.

[Kurtz]

Actually there's a lot of good thangs that can be said for detachment.

http://www.coping.org/control/detach.htm

[patriotsblade]

Humility, when appropriate.

[Cookie Parker]

Take care of your own faults and leave pointing out others alone...

[Kurtz]

Take care of your own faults and leave pointing out others alone...


And you can kiss my royal ass, I'm the new fuckin' administrator
here, I'll do as I damn well please...oh wait, you weren't directin'
that statement at me...you mean that's a virtue, right? :D


I kid Ms Parker. :heart

[Oceanbreeze]

What do you really think of what most people regard as virtue?

I find that many so called virtues are throughly obnoxious traits. Such as charity. It is awful to receive it. And makes the giver sanctimonious. I suppose it takes a greater amount of grace to do either well.

Hope can be dangerous if things aren't ever likely to get better. Facing the truth and dealing with it is a better choice. And why would anyone give hope falsely? But people often do.

A great many people dislike Hillary for remaining with her husband, but faithfulness is supposed to be a virtue.

Are there any virtues you are comfortable with? Any that come easy to you? Any you hate, in yourself or others? I hate the one that comes easiest to me. Detachment. The ability to stand aside and see a situation from a dispassionate view.

Issac; this hit home with me this morning. After I read this, I went to a health forum I visit. I have taken a break from the health forum. (Probably permenant...I always forget my passwords. :lmao) A poster has written a book about her affliction and is giving false hope to people. The only hope for the affliction is a remission or burn out, she can't cure. She's selling snake oil to desperate people. It makes me sad. :sad Thank you, Issac. :zen

[sparks]

Issac; this hit home with me this morning. After I read this, I went to a health forum I visit. I have taken a break from the health forum. (Probably permenant...I always forget my passwords. :lmao) A poster has written a book about her affliction and is giving false hope to people. The only hope for the affliction is a remission or burn out, she can't cure. She's selling snake oil to desperate people. It makes me sad. :sad Thank you, Issac. :zen

Maybe she's selling "hope"?

[Kurtz]

Maybe she's selling "hope"?

Ah, Hope the last thang in Pandora's box, actually an evil thang at that. Course, that was the Greeks' version of the story which serves to makes ya think women are the reason for all the evil in the world today, much like the one the Christians have about Eve 'n her apple. :lol

[sparks]

Ah, Hope the last thang in Pandora's box, actually an evil thang at that. Course, that was the Greeks' version of the story which serves to makes ya think women are the reason for all the evil in the world today, much like the one the Christians have about Eve 'n her apple. :lol

Why would anyone consider hope an evil thing? I think hope is a good thing. Beats the hell out of being hopeless. :shrug

[issac the dragon]

I don't think hope is a bad thing. All virtues can be used badly. And most are. Giving hope of a cure to a dying person is cruel. Letting a fool think he is going to be CEO of ITT is just aiding and abetting.

The thing I hate about my detachment is that I cannot blindly defend those I love. "That's my child and she couldn't have done that," thing. I don't like my kids when they are wrong or stupid. I love them, but I won't tell them that its ok. People have often said I was 'unnatural.' I feel it too.

The virtue I dislike the most though is piety. That is sickening.

[Grim]

From Canterbury Tales,
Thanne is it wysdom, as it thynketh me,
To maken vertu of necessitee,
And take it weel that we may nat eschue,
And namely that to us alle is due.


The virtue of necessity. What Chaucer was trying to say was make the best of it.


It was sound advice then and it still is today.

[issac the dragon]

Necessity is a great motivator, and as such may be a virtue. I wouldn't get a lot done without it.

Patience is a virtue. One I'm not terribly good at, and it can drive normal people nuts.

I've heard of womanly virtues, but I don't know what they are. I probably don't have them.