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Kurtz
12-07-2007, 06:30 PM
New Medicare rules for a small but promising class of cancer drugs may cause thousands of lymphoma patients to lose access to the treatment, which in some cases is the only therapy available to them.

The drugs’ makers and patient advocacy groups say the changes will sharply cut reimbursement for the medicines next year, and they predict that many hospitals will stop offering the treatments. The Medicare changes come just as new data provides additional evidence that the medicines, called Bexxar and Zevalin, are effective.

The drugs are given to treat non-Hodgkins lymphoma, the fifth-most-common cancer, and are usually prescribed for patients who have not responded to other therapies and who have few remaining treatment options. Clinical trial data show that they put the disease into remission for years in many of those patients.

Under the new rules, after Jan. 1, Medicare will reimburse hospitals about $16,000 for each treatment with the drugs, which a patient needs to receive only once. GlaxoSmithKline, which markets Bexxar, says it is priced at almost $30,000 a treatment, and Biogen Idec, which sells Zevalin, says it costs nearly as much. While high, such prices are not unusual for new cancer therapies, which can cost $50,000 or more for a year of treatment.

Senior Medicare officials say they are not trying to prevent hospitals from giving Bexxar and Zevalin. They say that $16,000 is a fair price and is based on the actual prices hospitals have paid for the medicines this year.

Zevalin was introduced in 2002, and Bexxar in 2003. Until now, Medicare has reimbursed each hospital claim individually, without setting a single nationwide price for the drug. The practice has resulted in wildly varying reimbursement, Medicare says.

But the companies say Medicare’s data must be inaccurate and that no hospital will offer the drugs to Medicare patients if it is losing $10,000 or more on each treatment.

Hospitals typically do not disclose their reimbursement rates, or whether they make money on any given treatment. The American Hospital Association declined to comment on the matter.

Under federal rules, hospitals that do not offer a drug to Medicare patients are barred from offering it to other patients, even if their insurers fully cover the cost of treatment. Because Bexxar and Zevalin contain radioactive material, the drugs must be administered by specially licensed technicians and doctors. They are usually given in hospitals.

Sarah Alspach, a spokeswoman for Glaxo, said the company had voluntarily submitted its pricing data to Medicare to prove that the hospital claims data was wrong. “Our feeling is there is a flaw in the methodology,” Ms. Alspach said.

Doctors, lymphoma patients and advocacy groups say they do not understand Medicare’s decision. About 60,000 people are diagnosed with non-Hodgkins lymphoma every year, and 20,000 people die of the disease.

“The explanation that they’re giving is really flawed,” said Dr. Mark Kaminski, the co-director of the leukemia and lymphoma transplant program at the University of Michigan. Dr. Kaminski helped discover Bexxar two decades ago and receives a royalty for it.

Bexxar and Zevalin are part of a new class of drugs called radioimmunotherapies. They combine a radioactive particle with a biologically engineered molecule that attaches to cancerous white blood cells.

In clinical trials, they have proven as good as or better than standard treatments for non-Hodgkins lymphoma, a cancer of the immune system. In a trial of 414 patients scheduled to be discussed next Monday at a hematology conference, the combination of Zevalin and chemotherapy put lymphoma into remission for three years on average, compared with one year for chemotherapy alone.

Marion Swan, a spokeswoman for the Lymphoma Research Foundation, says the drugs are the only option for some patients. “Our No. 1 concern is that patients have access to all viable treatment options,” she said, “and it looks like this might be denying access.”

The drugs can require private cancer doctors to transfer their patients to hospitals, and the private doctors may view the hospitals as competitors. As a result, fewer than 10 percent of patients who are candidates for the drugs get them.

Advocates for the drugs had hoped that new clinical trial evidence, like the Zevalin data that will be presented next week, would persuade more doctors to prescribe them. Now they worry that Medicare’s decision will end most use of the drugs and chill the development of other radioimmunotherapies.

“If you can’t get two products that basically hit home runs into the marketplace, there’s very little incentive for further development,” Dr. Kaminski said.

Herb B. Kuhn, deputy administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, the agency overseeing Medicare, said that the agency recognized the value of the drugs. But, he said, Medicare does not want to overpay for the medicines and believes that hospital data is the most accurate way to set reimbursement.

But most other drugs administered via injection in doctors’ offices or hospital outpatient clinics — as Bexxar and Zevalin are — are not reimbursed on the basis of what hospitals say they have paid. Instead, companies report the average price of their drugs to Medicare. Medicare then reimburses doctors and hospitals at that price, plus a 6 percent fee to cover handling costs.

GlaxoSmithKline said it had asked Medicare to switch to that system for Bexxar. So far, Medicare has refused.

Lymphoma patients, meanwhile, are anxiously watching the fight between Medicare and the companies.

Lora Beckwith, 66, first learned she had the disease in 2004. So far, her illness has progressed slowly, but last month, she was told that she would probably need treatment by February.

Because Ms. Beckwith, who lives in Ann Arbor, Mich., has Parkinson’s disease, she cannot receive standard chemotherapy for the disease, making Bexxar and Zevalin among her only alternatives. Now she fears she may not be able to get them.

“I’m not usually a vengeful or resentful person,” she said. “But I am feeling a bit resentful about having this taken away — if I can’t have access to a drug that would extend my life.”

Cancer Drugs Cut By Medicare (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/business/07drug.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin)

So do you think health is the issue or money? :whistle

issac the dragon
12-09-2007, 06:25 PM
In the non-perfect world we live in, I'm terribly afraid we will have to resort to rationing. Conservatives will say that would be a result of socialized medicine, but it already happens.

Age related rationing will come. How much will we be willing to spend to keep an old person alive for a short time? While I was nursing I treated an eightyone year old woman on dialysis. I was suprised that she was put on it. It is about money. But also on the value to be gained by the treatment. A 66 year old is not worth spending an endless amount of money on.:cane I say that as a 65 year old.:granny

Kurtz
12-09-2007, 07:23 PM
In the non-perfect world we live in, I'm terribly afraid we will have to resort to rationing. Conservatives will say that would be a result of socialized medicine, but it already happens.

Age related rationing will come. How much will we be willing to spend to keep an old person alive for a short time? While I was nursing I treated an eightyone year old woman on dialysis. I was suprised that she was put on it. It is about money. But also on the value to be gained by the treatment. A 66 year old is not worth spending an endless amount of money on.:cane I say that as a 65 year old.:granny


WHAT?! :shock

66 is young!


I say that as a 54 year old.
:dancer

issac the dragon
12-09-2007, 07:44 PM
Gotcha.

Kurtz
12-09-2007, 07:48 PM
Gotcha.

Watch out, I'll come up there 'n drag you down to My Dungeon. :max

issac the dragon
12-09-2007, 07:53 PM
I've seen your dungeon. You'd never get me to leave.

Kurtz
12-09-2007, 08:13 PM
I've seen your dungeon. You'd never get me to leave.

Wear that purple dress you wore the last time. :max
issac 'n her pruple dress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXhQNRsH3uc)

issac the dragon
12-09-2007, 10:28 PM
Oh, I want the pair. I'll stack them in a corner and take them out to dance every day. I would have looked great in that dress forty years ago. But I never knew how to tango.

sparks
12-09-2007, 10:32 PM
Wear that purple dress you wore the last time. :max
issac 'n her pruple dress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXhQNRsH3uc)

I wonder how many times they tripped over each other's flailing legs before they got that dance perfect? :lol

Cool video!

Matt
12-10-2007, 12:11 PM
Back to the topic (sorry to interrupt the dance).

As long as the age rules apply for the old dudes in government and their retirees I'll go along with the idea of not treating older people.
However, I do have a very hard time thinking of people in their sixties as too old.

There will also have to be limits to what will be paid for premature babies. We have so many now that have no chance for a normal life or ever being productive citizens.
I think this could take this rational on and on though it may sound a little like something that would have been discussed in the Hitler regime of the super race.

Wonder what kind of treatment former Senator Thompson gets for his lymphoma ~ and who is footing the bill!
How old is he anyway and will his retirement go to that young new wife and their children even tho she probably was not paying into the system until long after he was in the Senate?


I don't know the answers. These are just the questions!

cassandra
12-10-2007, 12:27 PM
I cannot imagine people in their 60's as old. I believe that if there is something that can help it should be done.

toxic
12-11-2007, 01:00 PM
Back to the topic (sorry to interrupt the dance).

As long as the age rules apply for the old dudes in government and their retirees I'll go along with the idea of not treating older people.
However, I do have a very hard time thinking of people in their sixties as too old.

There will also have to be limits to what will be paid for premature babies. We have so many now that have no chance for a normal life or ever being productive citizens.
I think this could take this rational on and on though it may sound a little like something that would have been discussed in the Hitler regime of the super race.

Wonder what kind of treatment former Senator Thompson gets for his lymphoma ~ and who is footing the bill!
How old is he anyway and will his retirement go to that young new wife and their children even tho she probably was not paying into the system until long after he was in the Senate?


I don't know the answers. These are just the questions!

I agree. Some people are so afraid of death they even go to church hoping to avoid it.

Sometimes it appears they don't realize they are just posponing the inevitable.

At a minimum, there should be some lifetime maximum benefit.