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Oceanbreeze
11-19-2007, 01:41 PM
"Nearly 300 protesters against the Intelligence Center and alleged torture teaching on the fort gathered on a small lot on the southwest corner of Buffalo Soldier Trail and Fry Boulevard.

Lining the sidewalk were about 30 anti-protesters, who had support from nearly two dozen motorcyclists, who drove around the picket area."


http://www.svherald.com/articles/2007/11/19/news/doc4741453d0c76f259867211.txt

Cookie Parker
11-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Two of the three had met Army officials Thursday and were briefed on the human intelligence collector’s course, which includes interrogation methods.
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Military police arrest Betsy Lamb of Oregon on Sunday as she crosses the boundary at the Main Gate of Fort Huachuca, which had been sealed off during a protest. Observing in the background, wearing a dark jacket and tie, is Capt. Evan Seamone, the chief prosecutor with the post’s Staff Judge Advocate Office. (Suzanne Cronn•Herald/Review) Mary Burton Riseley, 65, a Quaker from New Mexico and the Rev. Jerry Zawada, 70, of Nevada had met with post officials last week. Joining them was Betsy Lamb, 69, of Oregon as they walked across Buffalo Soldier Trail just before 1 p.m. Sunday. They were taken into custody by post law enforcement officials.

The trio were released on their own recognizance slightly before 4 p.m. and given a Dec. 4 court date to appear at the federal courthouse in Tucson for an initial hearing.

This year was the fourth annual protest at the fort and the fourth time a group of post supporters protested the anti-fort people.

Pat Pugh, whose husband is a Vietnam War veteran, said her husband and others fought to defend the right of people like the anti-fort protesters.

“They have the right to protest, the right to be wrong and the right to be fools,” she said.

And, equally as important are for people like her and other post supporters to protest against their presence outside the fort’s property, Pugh said.

Nearly 300 protesters against the Intelligence Center and alleged torture teaching on the fort gathered on a small lot on the southwest corner of Buffalo Soldier Trail and Fry Boulevard.

Lining the sidewalk were about 30 anti-protesters, who had support from nearly two dozen motorcyclists, who drove around the picket area.

Separating the two sides were more than a dozen Sierra Vista police officers.

The anti-fort protesters were kept to one area and the pro-post people to another area, with a small no-man’s area between them. Whenever a member of one group would try to walk on to the other side, a quick police reaction nipped it in the bud.



What type of people were out supporting torture? Or were they saying there were no torture techniques being used by the fort?

Oceanbreeze
11-19-2007, 01:49 PM
Simple,there is no torture at the post.

Cookie Parker
11-19-2007, 01:52 PM
Simple,there is no torture at the post.

No torture....where they TRAIN people to torture is what I thought I read....let me go back and recheck...

Cookie Parker
11-19-2007, 01:54 PM
SIERRA VISTA — For the second year in a row, protesters against alleged torture practices being taught on the post were arrested Sunday on charges of trespassing

Yeah, this is why they are protesting...these soldier are "being taught....torture practices."

Oceanbreeze
11-19-2007, 02:05 PM
Trust me on this, they aren't being taught how to do "allleged torture practices."AND there's no secret FEMA camp there, either.

Kurtz
11-19-2007, 02:07 PM
Trust me on this, they aren't being taught how to do "allleged torture practices."AND there's no secret FEMA camp there, either.

:lmao

:yep
I think that's probably true.

Cookie Parker
11-19-2007, 02:10 PM
Trust me on this, they aren't being taught how to do "allleged torture practices."AND there's no secret FEMA camp there, either.

Can't trust you...I know you don't know what's going on at the base...and your husband if he isn't involved wouldn't know either....

Oceanbreeze
11-19-2007, 02:15 PM
My husband knows for a FACT it does NOT exist.

Kurtz
11-19-2007, 02:37 PM
What we do KNOW is what's reported in the press and thru investigations/witnesses, etc. My military experience has included excellent training, however once in the field have been instructed to 'forget what you learned in school.' A soldier must make many decisions to include moral 'n ethical ones, a wise soldier will make those based on his conscience, not school or training.

cassandra
11-19-2007, 02:43 PM
Trust me on this, they aren't being taught how to do "allleged torture practices."AND there's no secret FEMA camp there, either.

I absolutely trust you.