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Saguaro
11-18-2007, 12:58 PM
UPPER MARLBORO, Md. - Scores of grumbling parents facing a threat of jail lined up at a courthouse Saturday to either prove that their school-age kids already had their required vaccinations or see that the youngsters submitted to the needle.

The get-tough policy in the Washington suburbs of Prince George's County was one of the strongest efforts made by any U.S. school system to ensure its youngsters receive their required immunizations.

Two months into the school year, school officials realized that more than 2,000 students in the county still didn't have the vaccinations they were supposed to have before attending class.

So Circuit Court Judge C. Philip Nichols ordered parents in a letter to appear at the courthouse Saturday and either get their children vaccinated on the spot or risk up to 10 days in jail. They could also provide proof of vaccination or an explanation why their kids didn't have them.

By about 8:30 a.m., the line of parents stretched outside the courthouse in the county on the east side of Washington.

Many of them complained that their children already were properly immunized but the school system had misplaced the records. They said efforts to get the paperwork straightened out had been futile.

"It was very intimidating," Territa Wooden of Largo said of the letter. She said she presented the paperwork at the courthouse Saturday and resolved the matter.

"I could be home asleep. My son had his shots," said Veinell Dickens of Upper Marlboro, who also blamed errant paperwork.

Aloma Martin of Fort Washington brought her children, Delontay and Taron, in 10th and 6th grade, for their hepatitis shots. She said she had been trying to get the vaccinations for more than a month, since the school system sent a warning letter. She had an appointment for Monday, but came to the courthouse to be safe.

"It was very heavy handed," she said of the county's action. "From that letter, it sounded like they were going to start putting us in jail."

School officials deemed the court action a success. School system spokesman John White said the number of children lacking vaccinations dropped from 2,300 at the time the judge sent the letter to about 1,100 Friday.

After Saturday's session, 172 more students were brought into compliance, including 101 students who received vaccinations at the courthouse and 71 whose records were updated.

That still left more than 900 students out of compliance with vaccination requirements, White said.

"Obviously, we still have some more work to do," he said.

Any children who still lack immunizations could be expelled. Their parents could then be brought up on truancy charges, which can result in a 10-day jail sentence for a first offense and 30 days for a second.

Prince George's State's Attorney Glenn Ivey couldn't say Saturday whether he would prosecute parents who fail to comply.

"We have to sit down with school and health services," he said. "We haven't ruled anything out. We need to figure out where we stand."

White said the school system, with about 132,000 students, has been trying for two years to get parents to comply with state law. That law allows children to skip vaccines if they have a medical or religious exemption. It was unclear how many medical or religious exemptions were involved.

Maryland, like all states, requires children to be immunized against several childhood illnesses including polio, mumps and measles. In recent years, it also has required that students up to high school age be vaccinated against hepatitis B and chicken pox.

Nichols said nobody actually came before him Saturday, but he was there if any parent asked to see him.

The judge noted the unhappy looks of some of the kids in line waiting for vaccinations.

"It's cute. It looks like their parents are dragging them to church," Nichols said.

Several organizations opposed to mass vaccinations demonstrated outside the courthouse. While the medical consensus is that vaccines are safe and effective, some people blame immunizations for a rise in autism and other medical problems.

"People should have a choice" in getting their children immunized, said Charles Frohman, representing a physicians' group opposed to vaccines.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/ap_on_re_us/shots_getting_tough;_ylt=ArHgX8yirNCn9yDLu1L.FOWs0 NUE

Sweet Tart
11-18-2007, 03:27 PM
Big load of unconstitutional crap.

Let's make a law that benefits the vaccine companies :frolic

Oh, and that autism thing. Bunch of hooey. Besides, its only one in 150 kids, right? :shrug

Fuckwads.

Trueblue
11-18-2007, 03:31 PM
I believe in vaccinations, but NOT in duplicate vaccinations. Sounds like the county was sloppy with their paperwork and the kids had to pay the price. :mad

GreenEyedLady
12-09-2007, 01:50 PM
Autism is rising each year. I've always wondered if it isn't somehow related to the high fevers that children get when they are vaccinated. Since we do know that high fevers can cause brain damage.

I work in the Social Services field in Family Preservation. I just had a child go out of home because of his ODD behavior and his mother felt she couldn't deal with him anymore. Here is some info I wanted to share with all of you.



Autism is a developmental disability that impacts the normal development of the brain in the areas of social interaction and communication skills. Children and adults with autism typically experience difficulty with:

communication, both verbal and nonverbal.
making and maintaining consistent eye contact with others.
attention span.
social skills. Autistic people have a strong propensity toward exclusive activities.
routines or repetitive behaviors, i.e. obsessively repeating words or body movements, or arranging belongings in a very specific way.
self-help skills, such as toileting, feeding, dressing, brushing teeth, etc.
One person with autism may have very different symptoms and behaviors than another. Because of these differences, doctors now think of autism as a "spectrum" disorder, or a group of disorders with a range of similar features. A person with mild autistic symptoms is at one end of the spectrum. A person with severe symptoms is at the other end of the spectrum. Because of this, autism is now often called autism spectrum disorder (ASD).
Currently, ASD includes the following conditions1:

Autistic disorder
Sometimes called "classic autism." Most signs of autism occur in children in the first 18 to 24 months.
Asperger's syndrome
A form of autism where the child has fewer developmental delays. Often, people with Asperger's syndrome can communicate with great skill. Their repetitious behaviors may be more subtle. When they are younger, because they are so able, they are usually seen as simply "bratty" rather than having a diagnosable disorder. Because of this, people with Asperger's syndrome are often not diagnosed until they are between 4 and 8 years old.
Childhood disintegrative disorder (CDD)
A child develops normally until early childhood (the first 2-4 years) and then begins to show tic features. CDD is very rare.
Rett syndrome
A neurological development disorder that affects only females. Noticeable symptoms occur between ages 1 and 4. Symptoms include loss of muscle tone and the ability to use their hands or speak.
Pervasive Developmental Disorder Not Otherwise Specified (PDDNOS)
or atypical autism
A condition where a child shares many of the characteristics of autism, but not all. This is a "catch-all" diagnosis, where a child is, in the diagnostician's view, on the autistic spectrum, but does not meet the written criteria for a more specific diagnosis.
The disorder affects people of all races, ethnicities, household incomes, lifestyles and levels of education. However, the disorder is three to four times more prevalent in boys than girls. Additionally, current figures show that parents with one autistic child have a 5%-10% chance of having another child with autism.
Autism affects an estimated 1 in 150 births.2 This means that as many as 1.5 million Americans today are believed to have some form of autism. Based on statistics from the U.S. Department of Education and other governmental agencies, autism is growing at an annual rate of 10% - 17%. The Autism Society of America estimates that there could be four million Americans with the disorder in the next decade.
No one knows what causes autism. However, it is generally accepted that it is caused by abnormalities in brain structure or function. Brain scans typically show differences in the shape and structure of the brain in autistic versus non-autistic children.3 A variety of factors are currently being investigated such as infectious, metabolic, genetic and environmental factors, such as vaccinations.
First identified in 1943, public awareness of autism has increased significantly due to efforts of parents and advocates. Congress has held hearings on autism and its potential causes and leading research universities work tirelessly to find its causes.



http://www.kylestreehouse.org/what_is_autism.cfm

Sweet Tart
12-09-2007, 04:18 PM
Oh, sunny, you and I are going to be good friends :yep

Did you read about the connection between fevers and autism?

Another thread, I know :para

GreenEyedLady
12-09-2007, 05:25 PM
Oh, sunny, you and I are going to be good friends :yep

Did you read about the connection between fevers and autism?

Another thread, I know :para

No, I didn't see it. It's here? I will look for it. I have never read they thought there was a connection with the fever, but it just makes sense to me since fever does destroy brain cells, and they really haven't pinpointed what causes it yet.

Sweet Tart
12-09-2007, 06:20 PM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071208144002.htm

http://www.physorg.com/news116401674.html

GreenEyedLady
12-09-2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks for the links. It was very interesting to read. Sometimes I think man has come along way in the last 50 years, and then when I read something like this I realize that we are still just scratching the surface in some areas. We need to be spending money on research and not war.


Ahhhh....Star Wars characters here as well...:deadshot

Trueblue
12-09-2007, 09:49 PM
There is an autism explosion where I work. I have no explanation for it, I believe that vaccinations may have played a role in some cases, but now they've taken out the mercury, so what's going on?