Spanish king tells Chavez to "shut up"

[Saguaro]

SANTIAGO, Chile - The king of Spain told Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to "shut up" Saturday during a heated exchange at a summit of leaders from Latin America, Spain and Portugal.

Chavez, who called President Bush the "devil" on the floor of the United Nations last year, triggered the exchange by repeatedly referring to former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar as a "fascist."

Aznar, a conservative who was an ally of Bush as prime minister, "is a fascist," Chavez said in a speech at the Ibero-American summit in Santiago, Chile. "Fascists are not human. A snake is more human."

Spain's current socialist prime minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, responded during his own allotted time by urging Chavez to be more diplomatic in his words and respect other leaders despite political differences.

"Former President Aznar was democratically elected by the Spanish people and was a legitimate representative of the Spanish people," he said, eliciting applause from the gathered heads of state.

Chavez repeatedly tried to interrupt, but his microphone was off.

Spanish King Juan Carlos, seated next to Zapatero, angrily turned to Chavez and said, "Why don't you shut up?"

The Venezuelan leader did not immediately respond, but later used time ceded to him by his close ally Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega to answer Zapatero's speech.

"I do not offend by telling the truth," he said. "The Venezuelan government reserves the right to respond to any aggression, anywhere, in any space and in any manner."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071110/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/chile_summit_spat;_ylt=Ah5hysqSesGnYmmSv1RlaG2s0NU E

[Hurricane]

I'm sure many people have wanted to tell Chavez to shut up before.

Good on the King. He is a straight talker. ;)

[Trueblue]

:lol Good for him!!!!

[issac the dragon]

Now can we shut Bush up?

[Hurricane]

Now can we shut Bush up?

I think Bush has one last horrah before he is gone for good. :pblade

[issac the dragon]

:rofl2 Good pun.

[Wabash]

I think Bush has one last horrah before he is gone for good. :pblade

Yep...me too....wait and see folks what Bush has up his sleeve!:wink 14 months leaves a lot of time...

[AYFR]

Yep...me too....wait and see folks what Bush has up his sleeve!:wink 14 months leaves a lot of time...

He will use the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive

t defines a “catastrophic emergency” as “any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government function.”

This could mean another 9/11, or another Katrina, or a major earthquake in California, I imagine, since it says it would include “localized acts of nature, accidents, and technological or attack-related emergencies.”

The document emphasizes the need to ensure “the continued function of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government,” it states.

But it says flat out: “The President shall lead the activities of the Federal Government for ensuring constitutional government.”
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/22710

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55824

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/09/AR2007050902719.html

That is the last trick he has.

[issac the dragon]

I think the American people need to start contacting their represenatives to change those laws. And to warn them that a revolution will be the result of trying to pull off that kind of crap.

[AYFR]

I think the American people need to start contacting their represenatives to change those laws. And to warn them that a revolution will be the result of trying to pull off that kind of crap.

It may be to late I fear:castro

[Saguaro]

Will he take a cue from Musharaff ?

[AYFR]

Will he take a cue from Musharaff ?

:shrug maybe. With him (Bush) you can never be certain.

[quiet man]

neither one of those guys will realize they are as much the problem as the solution.

[Trueblue]

Yep...me too....wait and see folks what Bush has up his sleeve!:wink 14 months leaves a lot of time...

He will use the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive


http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/22710

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55824

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/09/AR2007050902719.html

That is the last trick he has.

Then I hope he enjoys prison, because that will be his fate if he tries this.

[AYFR]

TB and just who is going to put him there?

[Trueblue]

TB and just who is going to put him there?

You think he can get by with this? I don't. The military, the Congress, and the judiciary will stop him.

[Ringo]

I think Bush has one last horrah before he is gone for good. :pblade
You haven't heard??? I mean the Marshal Law...the Lifetime..hmm maybe I need to be quiet??

[Saguaro]

If Bush tries marshall law,there will be such an uprising it will make the American Revolution look like a child's birthday party

[Ringo]

Now can we shut Bush up?

Way to divert the HEAT off your favorite Fat ass Latino Dictator, but of course you stand TALL for ALL of America's enemies don't ya Dragon Lady?

Your a good little Commie Traitor, don't ever let anyone say your not a good Un American!!:sheep:castro:osama:sheep

[Saguaro]

It's you're

Watch it with the insults guy

[Trueblue]

Ringo likes the idea of a Bush dictatorship, and projects his secret longing for it onto Issac. by accusing her of sympathizing with Chavez.

I'm 100% positive that Chavez is NOT a favorite of Issac's. I think she is with me-no dictators, no matter what their political leanings.

[AYFR]

You think he can get by with this? I don't. The military, the Congress, and the judiciary will stop him.

Did you read the directive?

The military and the government would be under his control

[AYFR]

It will take a citizen revolt (involving guns) to stop him.

[Trueblue]

Did you read the directive?

The military and the government would be under his control

It will take a citizen revolt (involving guns) to stop him.

I do not believe that Bush could pull it off. The military might be under his control on paper, but I do not believe that they would follow such a directive.

[Saguaro]

Did you read the directive?

The military and the government would be under his control

Most are overseas fighting Bush's war

[Lone Laugher]

Yep...me too....wait and see folks what Bush has up his sleeve!:wink 14 months leaves a lot of time...

There goes Wabby...smiling with glee as his beloved POTUS has him bending over for one last thrust.

[AYFR]

I do not believe that Bush could pull it off. The military might be under his control on paper, but I do not believe that they would follow such a directive.

Most are overseas fighting Bush's war

Others would disagree with you TB; I have already tried to make that argument here
The bonsai think he a king as it is. We will see if he uses his "emergency" powers to nullify a november vote.

Not going to happen

I doubt that they would wait till we had voted. They would just say it was too dangerous to allow an election "at this time."

I think he wants to know the outcome before he nullifies election.

WE out number him.

HE'S got the Army, Navy, and the Air Force.

No he doesn't they belong to the people because they are the people as well.

Tell that to the generals who are to obey the commander in Chief.

The troops outnumber the Generals as well.
Soldiers take an oath to protect this country and if that mean protect it from inside forces the so be it.

The military has no choice but to follow the CIC. Even when he is wrong! I have no doubt that when or if Bush nullifies the vote they will not fight the government but the citizens as directed by the president.

Just as young peasant soldiers control their own friends and family in South/Central American Dictatorships ...

USA's Enlisted Troops swear an alligence to follow orders of the CIC, the Officers do not, but typically the Officers are promised something to make it worth their effort (as in all banana republics).

The troops must be led to believe that they are somehow on the "inside" and are no longer like their peasant friends and family. They must be convinced that they are better than them or maybe rejected by them.

Maybe our peasant soldiers will be more "Christian" that those opposing a Bush takeover.

Sag he could easily pull them back and he would for this.

[Trueblue]

I'm sorry, but no, Bush could not easily pull them back. Consider the logistics.

[Saguaro]

MADRID, Spain - Spain's king was right to tell Hugo Chavez to "shut up" at a summit because the Venezuelan president had insulted Spain's former prime minister, the governing party said Monday.

Spain wants good relations with Latin American countries but will not tolerate a lack of respect for its citizens, in this case a prominent one like former Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, said Diego Lopez Garrido, spokesman in Parliament for the Socialist Party.

"This is a fundamental, democratic principle, one that governs relations between countries," Lopez Garrido told a news conference.

The spat arose Saturday at an Ibero-American summit in Santiago, Chile, when Chavez accused Aznar of backing a 2002 coup that briefly removed Chavez from power. Chavez repeatedly called Aznar a "fascist" in an address at the summit of leaders from Latin America, Spain and Portugal.

Spain's current prime minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, asked Chavez to be more diplomatic and show respect for other leaders despite political differences. "President Hugo Chavez, I think there is an essential principle to dialogue, and that is, to respect and be respected, we should be careful not to fall into insults," Zapatero said.

Chavez continued to interrupt as Zapatero spoke, although his microphone was off.

A frustrated King Juan Carlos, seated next to Zapatero, leaned toward Chavez and loudly asked, "Por que no te callas?" — or "Why don't you shut up?" The monarch then left the chamber.

Aznar later called to thank Zapatero for defending him, Lopez Garrido said.

Chavez fueled the dispute further on Sunday by suggesting the king knew in advance of the 2002 coup. Spanish royal palace officials were not available for comment Monday.

During the two-day coup in April 2002, Aznar called interim president Pedro Carmona, and the Spanish ambassador to Venezuela met with Carmona. Chavez was restored to power after massive street protests.

Aznar later told the Spanish Parliament he had discussed with Carmona arrangements for Chavez to go to Cuba. Aznar's party has insisted, however, that the conservative government then in power did not back the coup.

But Spain's current Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos charged in December 2004 that Aznar had in fact given the putsch his diplomatic blessing. Moratinos cited diplomatic cables from the period and other government documents.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21757308/

[Trueblue]

Spain's current prime minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, asked Chavez to be more diplomatic and show respect for other leaders despite political differences. "President Hugo Chavez, I think there is an essential principle to dialogue, and that is, to respect and be respected, we should be careful not to fall into insults," Zapatero said.

Chavez continued to interrupt as Zapatero spoke, although his microphone was off.

A frustrated King Juan Carlos, seated next to Zapatero, leaned toward Chavez and loudly asked, "Por que no te callas?" — or "Why don't you shut up?" The monarch then left the chamber.


:clap