View Full Version : Paul raises more than $3.5M in one day
Saguaro
11-05-2007, 10:58 PM
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, aided by an extraordinary outpouring of Internet support Monday, hauled in more than $3.5 million in 20 hours.
Paul, the Texas congressman with a Libertarian tilt and an out-of-Iraq pitch, entered heady fundraising territory with a surge of Web-based giving tied to the commemoration of Guy Fawkes Day.
Fawkes was a British mercenary who failed in his attempt to kill King James I on Nov. 5, 1605. He also was the model for the protagonist in the movie "V for Vendetta." Paul backers motivated donors on the Internet with mashed-up clips of the film on the online video site YouTube as well as the Guy Fawkes Day refrain: "Remember, remember the 5th of November."
Paul's total deposed Mitt Romney as the single-day fundraising record holder in the Republican presidential field. When it comes to sums amassed in one day, Paul now ranks only behind Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton, who raised nearly $6.2 million on June 30, and Barack Obama.
Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said the effort began independently about two months ago at the hands of Paul's backers. He said Paul picked up on the movement, mentioning in it speeches and interviews.
"It's been kind of building up virally," Benton said.
The $3.5 million, he said, represented online contributions from more than 22,000 donors.
Paul has been lagging in the polls behind Republican front-runners. But he captured national attention at the end of September when he reported raising $5.2 million in three months, putting him fourth among Republican presidential candidates in fundraising for the quarter.
Paul as of Monday had raised $6.3 million since Oct. 1, more than half his goal of $12 million by the end of the year, according to his Web site.
Paul advocates limited government and low taxes like other Republicans, but he stands alone as the only GOP presidential candidate opposed to the Iraq war. He also has opposed Bush administration security measures that he says encroach on civil liberties.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071106/ap_po/paul_fundraising;_ylt=AtgpPAi3wncf5uqB.23RNfas0NUE
Saguaro
11-05-2007, 11:01 PM
I find this hard to believe
Getting him nominated is a sure fire way for Hillary to win the White House
Lone Laugher
11-06-2007, 06:59 AM
He's the only GOP candidate that is willing to speak his mind. I think he has a legitimate shot at the nomination.
Semantics
11-06-2007, 10:56 AM
I guess this blows up the claim that all of his supporters are internet bots. :shrug
He's the only GOP candidate that is willing to speak his mind. I think he has a legitimate shot at the nomination.
I agree. :yep
toxic
11-06-2007, 10:57 AM
I find this hard to believe
Ron Paul has been calling it-as-he-sees-it for years and has had a underground of followers for years.
When I posted on the political board over at The Motley Fool, Ron Paul's opinions often seemed to be uncomfortably acceptable compromises between hard core Republicans and Democrats.
I guess he writes a one page white paper each week on a controversial issue. He details the problem/issues and what he thinks should be done. Remarkable for a politician.
He has obviously disagreed with Bush a lot.
I think old GOP Republicans and Democrats like his non-interventionism and fisical conservatism.
sparks
11-06-2007, 11:01 AM
The $3.5 million, he said, represented online contributions from more than 22,000 donors.
That's pretty impressive, isn't it?
patriotsblade
11-06-2007, 11:13 AM
He's the only GOP candidate that is willing to speak his mind. I think he has a legitimate shot at the nomination.
Exactly why I have decided to send him some $$$. A Ron Paul nomination would be a dream come true for us Democrats.
Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 01:47 PM
Getting him nominated is a sure fire way for Hillary to win the White HouseNot really in that they may split the anti-war vote. Ron Paul is finding support as the anti-war candidate in the GOP field and may be a viable third party candidate.
Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 01:48 PM
Exactly why I have decided to send him some $$$. A Ron Paul nomination would be a dream come true for us Democrats.But that is playing dirty. Just because the repugs did the same thing in 2000 with Nader does not mean that we should pull the same trick. Then again, maybe I need to get my checkbook out.
Not really in that they may split the anti-war vote. Ron Paul is finding support as the anti-war candidate in the GOP field and may be a viable third party candidate.
Well I know that I would vote for Hillary before Ron Paul
Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Well I know that I would vote for Hillary before Ron PaulRemember that the libertarians have their own party and can get Ron Paul on the ballot without much trouble. Paul's message is generating enough support that he may take the third party route.
Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 06:27 PM
Glenn Greenwald has some interesting comments on Ron Paul including a great quote from Jon Stewart. http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/11/06/paul/index.htmlRegardless of one's ideology, there is simply no denying certain attributes of Paul's campaign which are highly laudable. There have been few serious campaigns that are more substantive -- just purely focused on analyzing and solving the most vital political issues. There have been few candidates who more steadfastly avoid superficial gimmicks, cynical stunts, and manipulative tactics. There have been few candidates who espouse a more coherent, thoughtful, consistent ideology of politics, grounded in genuine convictions and crystal clear political values. Here is what Jon Stewart said to Paul on The Daily Show:You appear to have consistent principled integrity. Americans don't usually go for that.
There is never a doubt that Paul actually believes what he is saying, nor is there any doubt that what he believes is the by-product of critical and rational thought grounded in genuine political passion.
Remember that the libertarians have their own party and can get Ron Paul on the ballot without much trouble. Paul's message is generating enough support that he may take the third party route.
Fine but I will still not vote for him.
issac the dragon
11-06-2007, 09:21 PM
Unless he comes up with some hairbrained ideas like the Bushies have, I'd vote for him in a minute. I've always figured it would just be a wasted vote. Now.......maybe.
Lone Laugher
11-06-2007, 09:29 PM
Rev...you have probably posted this before...but can you tell me why you detest Ron Paul so much?
OK sure
I don't like Neo Nazis (or any racist) or their supporters.
More here
http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=13833&highlight=Ron+Paul
issac the dragon
11-07-2007, 10:01 AM
OK sure
I don't like Neo Nazis (or any racist) or their supporters.
More here
http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=13833&highlight=Ron+Paul
Reverend, you are in serious danger of becoming another Ringo or Wabash. I have not read a bunch of crap like those google sites in a long time. Just because someone says something is so doesn't make it so. I don't know a great deal about Paul, but you'll have to do better than a blog to impress the people who post here.:aliens
Reverend, you are in serious danger of becoming another Ringo or Wabash. I have not read a bunch of crap like those google sites in a long time. Just because someone says something is so doesn't make it so. I don't know a great deal about Paul, but you'll have to do better than a blog to impress the people who post here.:aliens
It is a FACT that he took money from a Neo-Nazi.
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/25/rpb1/
If you don't believe that then check it out for yourself.
He also lets his work be published by an site that denies the holocaust.
Lone Laugher
11-07-2007, 07:00 PM
OK...let me try and understand.....
Ron Paul took money from someone who is a racist or a Nazi?
Ron Paul had an article about international taxation(?) published in a publication that is run by a racist or a Naz?
Is that the reason? I don't have time to look at all those links thoroughly...is that what your problem is?
issac the dragon
11-07-2007, 07:09 PM
There isn't a politician in this country who hasn't taken a contribution from someone they wouldn't have if they checked out each and every one themselves. They receive them from hundreds of thousands of people and groups. That is just a stupid argument. The publication is even worse. Show me proof that Paul is a Nazi. So far you haven't even come close.
OK...let me try and understand.....
Ron Paul took money from someone who is a racist or a Nazi?
Ron Paul had an article about international taxation(?) published in a publication that is run by a racist or a Naz?
Is that the reason? I don't have time to look at all those links thoroughly...is that what your problem is?
Yes, I have a hard time supporting someone that knowingly take money from someone that is a known Neo-Nazi and that lets his work be published in anti-semitic sites.
Here's more
Morris ran numerous attacks, including publicizing issues of the Ron Paul Survival Report (published by Paul since 1985) that included derogatory comments concerning race and other politicians.[50][51] The newsletter had accused President Bill Clinton of fathering illegitimate children and using cocaine; called U.S. Representative Barbara Jordan a "fraud" and a "half-educated victimologist"; and argued for lowering the legal age for prosecuting youths as adults, using race-based examples.[52]
In 2001, Paul took "moral responsibility" for the comments printed in his newsletter under his name, explaining to Texas Monthly magazine that the comments were written by a ghostwriter[53] and did not represent his views. He said the remarks referring to Rep. Jordan were "the saddest thing, because Barbara and I served together and actually she was a delightful lady."[31][53] The magazine defended Paul's decision to protect the writer's confidence in 1996, concluding, "In four terms as a U.S. congressman and one presidential race, Paul had never uttered anything remotely like this."[31] In 2007, with the controversy resurfacing,[54] the New York Times Magazine concurred that Paul denied the allegations "quite believably, since the style diverges widely from his own";[9] Paul actually criticizes racism as "an ugly form of collectivism."[55]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
Paul, writing in his independent political newsletter in 1992, reported about unspecified surveys of blacks.
"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"Paul wrote.
Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered "as decent people." Citing reports that 85 percent of all black men in the District of Columbia are arrested, Paul wrote:
"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.
Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."
http://www.jewcy.com/daily_shvitz/ron_paul_not_so_fond_of_blacks
But OK lets go to the voting issues.
Embryonic stem cell programs not constitionally authorized. (May 2007)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)
Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)
Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)
Voted NO on allowing Courts to decide on "God" in Pledge of Allegiance. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges. (Mar 2006)
Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)
Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)
Close departments of Energy, Education & Homeland Security. (May 2007)
Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
Voted YES on requiring photo ID for voting in federal elections. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)
Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999)
Rated 30% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. (Dec 2003)
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
issac the dragon
11-07-2007, 08:56 PM
Your sources are very iffy. Especially Jewsy. What a bunch of wingnuts.
I don't agree with Paul on everything, but I do with most things. I am for affirmative action, and gay adoption. His position on abortion and stem cell research is very Republican, not Libertarian. Maybe that is why he runs as a Republican. I could not support any one with those views. It seems oddly inconsistant with the fact that he says he wants the government out of our lives though. He is still a lot better than the rest of the Republicans.
I'll continue to vote for anyone who has a D behind their name. Even Clinton.
Saguaro
11-07-2007, 08:59 PM
I refuse to vote for anyone dumb enough to vote against the expansion of stem cell research.
Your sources are very iffy. Especially Jewsy. What a bunch of wingnuts.
I don't agree with Paul on everything, but I do with most things. I am for affirmative action, and gay adoption. His position on abortion and stem cell research is very Republican, not Libertarian. Maybe that is why he runs as a Republican. I could not support any one with those views. It seems oddly inconsistant with the fact that he says he wants the government out of our lives though. He is still a lot better than the rest of the Republicans.
I'll continue to vote for anyone who has a D behind their name. Even Clinton.
Well at least your not voting for Paul.
Wabash
11-07-2007, 09:23 PM
OK sure
I don't like Neo Nazis (or any racist) or their supporters.
More here
http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=13833&highlight=Ron+Paul
They aren't so bad once you get to know them...:rofl2
Reverend, you are in serious danger of becoming another Ringo or Wabash. I have not read a bunch of crap like those google sites in a long time. Just because someone says something is so doesn't make it so. I don't know a great deal about Paul, but you'll have to do better than a blog to impress the people who post here.:aliens
Watch your mouth woman! I cleaned your clock the other day on Henry Ford, so you might be careful who you are bitch slappin!!
It is a FACT that he took money from a Neo-Nazi.
http://lonestartimes.com/2007/10/25/rpb1/
If you don't believe that then check it out for yourself.
He also lets his work be published by an site that denies the holocaust.
So?
Yes, I have a hard time supporting someone that knowingly take money from someone that is a known Neo-Nazi and that lets his work be published in anti-semitic sites.
Here's more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul
http://www.jewcy.com/daily_shvitz/ron_paul_not_so_fond_of_blacks
But OK lets go to the voting issues.
Embryonic stem cell programs not constitionally authorized. (May 2007)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on ending preferential treatment by race in college admissions. (May 1998)
Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)
Voted NO on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)
Voted NO on allowing Courts to decide on "God" in Pledge of Allegiance. (Jul 2006)
Voted NO on $84 million in grants for Black and Hispanic colleges. (Mar 2006)
Abolish the federal Department of Education. (Dec 2000)
Rated 5% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes. (Dec 2003)
Voted NO on establishing nationwide AMBER alert system for missing kids. (Apr 2003)
Close departments of Energy, Education & Homeland Security. (May 2007)
Voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)
Voted YES on requiring photo ID for voting in federal elections. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)
Voted NO on banning soft money and issue ads. (Sep 1999)
Rated 30% by the ARA, indicating an anti-senior voting record. (Dec 2003)
http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm
So you have no problem with Hillary taking money from the Chinese and other dubious sources?
I refuse to vote for anyone dumb enough to vote against the expansion of stem cell research.
It's a bad deal if you use embryonic stem cells!
Saguaro
11-07-2007, 09:30 PM
Wabash,you need to really ,really need to look into stem cell research, instead of what you have been fed by the Reps.
issac the dragon
11-07-2007, 09:34 PM
When I eat an egg, I am not eating a chicken. I know the difference.
They aren't so bad once you get to know them...:rofl2
I really hope you are joking
So?
SO???!!! You've got to be kidding
So you have no problem with Hillary taking money from the Chinese and other dubious sources?
Now when have I said that? Hillary has not taken money from known Neo Nazis.
It's a bad deal if you use embryonic stem cells!
Psst those eggs just get thrown in the TRASH anyway, so why not put them to some good use.
Trueblue
11-07-2007, 09:58 PM
When I eat an egg, I am not eating a chicken. I know the difference.
You are on fire tonight, Issac. :lol Very good comments.
Yellowdogtexan
11-13-2007, 06:45 PM
Here is a nice story about Ron Paul not letting his recent success at fund raising go to his head. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Fundraising_bonanza_not_changing_Pauls_campaign_11 13.htmlWith a surging online fundraising operation that netted a record $4 million in a single day, GOP presidential contender Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) now has the monetary muscle to make some substantial upgrades to his tiny campaign organization -- but he doesn't plan to tinker with a successful formula, a DC newspaper reports.
Paul, whose Libertarian-leaning positions and outspoken criticisms of the war in Iraq have ignited a firestorm of support on the internet, maintains a "shoestring grass-roots political operation," reports Roll Call's Lauren W. Whittington. "In fact," she writes, "Paul's kitchen cabinet of advisers is virtually bare. The way the Libertarian sees it, he wouldn't have it any other way."
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