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sparks
11-04-2007, 01:59 AM
US bosses wrong to fire smokers, obese: survey

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Americans spoke out strongly against bosses who fire workers who are obese or smoke, a poll showed Thursday.

A scant few of the 2,267 US adults polled online by Harris Interactive early last month said employers should be allowed to fire someone who is unwilling to lose weight (four percent) or stop smoking (seven percent).

But around one-third of poll respondents said employers should be allowed to require staff to attend smoking cessation sessions or weight-loss programs.

"Employers have been making headlines recently for adopting stricter wellness policies in order to control healthcare costs," Harris Interactive's head of healthcare research, Katherine Binns, said in a statement.

"Companies such as Scotts (gardening) and Weyco (healthcare) have fired employees who tested positive for nicotine," the statement said.

A Massachusetts man last year sued Scotts for firing him for smoking on his own time, a report in the Boston Globe said.

His suit said he was unfairly sacked for "engaging in legal activities away from the workplace," the Globe report said.

Michigan-based Weyco instituted a policy in 2005 that allows employees to be laid off if they smoke, regardless of whether they engage in the habit at work or at home.

The company subsequently fired four employees who refused to be tested for nicotine, press reports said, with other reports saying Weyco staff members were fired after tests showed they had nicotine in their blood.

The poll conducted for The Wall Street Journal also showed that the number of Americans who feel the obese and smokers should pay higher healthcare premiums than their non-smoking and slim counterparts was significantly down form last year.

Thirty-seven percent said it was fair for people with unhealthy lifestyles to pay more for health insurance than their healthier counterparts, compared to 53 percent last year.

Eight out of 10 of those who said the unhealthy should carry a bigger health insurance burden also said it was unfair to ask people with healthy lifestyles to subsidize those who choose to smoke or pile on the pounds.

Three-quarters of those polled said they believed higher insurance premiums for unhealthy living could encourage people to live more healthily.

Link here (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071101/hl_afp/ushealthobesitytobaccorights;_ylt=AliqMd44IEVlSAZ1 R3zABb7VJRIF)

And soon we will probably go to DNA testing to see if folks are at risk for certain diseases that are very expensive to treat, such as Cancer, Multiple Sclerosis, heart disease, etc. And if these folks are deemed to be too much of a financial health risk, they probably won't be hired...or quickly fired as well.

Where will this abuse end? Where? I'm glad the public is speaking out finally! Now...will it do any good? :shrug

Saguaro
11-04-2007, 08:48 AM
The companies don't seem to realize that it is the insurance companies they need to go after

Trueblue
11-04-2007, 09:20 AM
This is an entirely different issue from banning workplace smoking. You just can't go this far and keep a work force.

They would do better to pay for smoking cessation programs and health club memberships to encourage people to change.

sparks
11-04-2007, 02:40 PM
This is an entirely different issue from banning workplace smoking. You just can't go this far and keep a work force.

They would do better to pay for smoking cessation programs and health club memberships to encourage people to change.

:faint :faint :faint :faint :faint

Thank you! Yes! This situation is way beyond smoking verses non-smoking. It's actually about individual rights and workplace oppression!

AYFR
11-04-2007, 02:44 PM
Isn't this discrimination?

sparks
11-04-2007, 02:46 PM
The companies don't seem to realize that it is the insurance companies they need to go after


Yet, it's easier for the companies to go after the little guy rather than take on big corporations. So the individual winds up being pressured and oppressed.

You're absolutely right Saguaro! The problem lies with the insurance companies, not in the individual lifestyle decisions people make for their personal lives.

Washington really needs to address these abuses by both the companies doing this unjust firing and the insurance companies who are charging unrealistic prices for services. They also need to find some sort of regulation for the healthcare industry and it's runaway costs.

sparks
11-04-2007, 02:48 PM
Isn't this discrimination?


Definitely!

issac the dragon
11-04-2007, 04:06 PM
Can they fire someone who lives with a smoker?

sparks
11-04-2007, 04:08 PM
Can they fire someone who lives with a smoker?


I guess it would all depend on if the person tests positive for nicotine in their system.

It's just really a bad policy all the way around. I'm glad someone finally sued and challenged this unfair practice.