A message from the Edwards Camp- The Politics of Parsing

[patriotsblade]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggO5yY7RAo

[patriotsblade]

It's good to see John keeping her on her toes. He may come up from behind and surprise everyone yet.

[sparks]

Ive gotta say...I love John Edwards southern accent! And he doesn't look bad either. Does that make him electable? Hmmmmm. :think

[Semantics]

It's good to see John keeping her on her toes. He may come up from behind and surprise everyone yet.

He may. This is not a sure thing for Hillary and everyone other than Kucinich and Richardson have a chance to get the nomination.

Ive gotta say...I love John Edwards southern accent! And he doesn't look bad either. Does that make him electable? Hmmmmm. :think


If only John Kerry had been better looking... imagine how much better off the world would be today. :bye

[sparks]

He may. This is not a sure thing for Hillary and everyone other than Kucinich and Richardson have a chance to get the nomination.




If only John Kerry had been better looking... imagine how much better off the world would be today. :bye


I sooooooooooo wanted him to win! :sad

[AYFR]

Ive gotta say...I love John Edwards southern accent! And he doesn't look bad either. Does that make him electable? Hmmmmm. :think
It got Bill elected

If only John Kerry had been better looking... imagine how much better off the world would be today. :bye
:roll :puke
I sooooooooooo wanted him to win! :sad

Why????

[sparks]

Rev: Why????

He was the most qualified between Bush and him. He had much, much more experience in Washington getting to know the ins and outs of how the system worked. He was well connected and seemed to think things through from all angles rather than running off have cocked like Bush seems to do!

"Dead or alive"...does that ring a bell? It certainly wasn't Kerry who succumbed to these cowboy, old west, yahoo, type strategies in office. Kerry is a much more refined person in my opinion than Bush will ever be. :shrug

[Yellowdogtexan]

I saw this earlier today. It is a good clip.

[AYFR]

Rev:

He was the most qualified between Bush and him. He had much, much more experience in Washington getting to know the ins and outs of how the system worked. He was well connected and seemed to think things through from all angles rather than running off have cocked like Bush seems to do!

"Dead or alive"...does that ring a bell? It certainly wasn't Kerry who succumbed to these cowboy, old west, yahoo, type strategies in office. Kerry is a much more refined person in my opinion than Bush will ever be. :shrug

Ok if you say so.

The guy could't be consistent on one single issue he was a flake with worse grades tehn Bush.

[sparks]

Ok if you say so.

The guy could't be consistent on one single issue he was a flake with worse grades tehn Bush.

I guess it's all perspective Rev, cause I didn't get that at all. :shrug

[AYFR]

Well it is a fact that he flip flops and that he made worse grades, the only perspective is that he is a flake.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/29/politics/main646435.shtml

http://www.sportsmenforkerry.com/flipflop.htm

WASHINGTON (USATODAY.com) — While the general impression during the 2004 presidential campaign was that Democrat John Kerry was the intellectual superior to President Bush, it turns out that their grades while undergraduate students at Yale were remarkably similar.

In fact, Bush's were a tad higher. His four-year average was 77; Kerry's 76. Both were C students. Kerry graduated from Yale in 1966; Bush in 1968.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/benedetto/2005-06-10-benedetto_x.htm

[Lone Laugher]

Even though the argument is dumb to begin with...I'd be interested to know what the course loads were for each of them. I don't think it is possible that GW was a better student than Kerry.

[issac the dragon]

The stupidity emanating from the WH would make it seem so. There was nothing wrong with Kerry, and it will be a long time before the American people forget the swiftboaters, and the stolen election. Or the war. Or the loss of our right to privacy. Or the national debt. Or vetoing the stem cell research bill. I could go on and on.

[AYFR]

Even though the argument is dumb to begin with...I'd be interested to know what the course loads were for each of them. I don't think it is possible that GW was a better student than Kerry.The grades speak for themselves. You think that Bush is stupid and yet he fooled Hillary and the rest of Congress right?

The stupidity emanating from the WH would make it seem so. There was nothing wrong with Kerry, and it will be a long time before the American people forget the swiftboaters, and the stolen election. Or the war. Or the loss of our right to privacy. Or the national debt. Or vetoing the stem cell research bill. I could go on and on.

And some of what yousay is true and some not true.

The election wasn't stolen, I haven't lost any privacy (whay privacy have you lost) the debt has been steadily going up for the past several decades regardless of who was and is president, and it was clinton that vetoed stem cell research funding.

1995 - U.S. President Bill Clinton signs into law the Dickey Amendment which prohibited federally appropriated funds to be used for research where human embryos would be either created or destroyed.

2001-2006 - U.S. President George W. Bush endorses the Congress in providing federal funding for embryonic stem cell research of approximately $100 million as well as $250 million for research on adult and animal stem cells. He also enacts laws that restrict federally-funded stem cell research on embryonic stem cells to the already derived cell lines.

19 July, 2006 - President George W. Bush vetoes H.R. 810 (Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act), a bill that would have reversed the Clinton-era law which made it illegal for federal money to be used for research where stem cells are derived from the destruction of an embryo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell
Bush just upheld Clinton's law

Facts are facts

[Trueblue]

Kerry was smart. And the idea that he's more of a flip-flopper than Bush is :rofl

[Trueblue]

Course difficulty varies greatly, so the grades don't speak for themselves.

Bush had help from smarter folks when he lied to Congress.

We've all lost privacy under Bush.

1995 - U.S. President Bill Clinton signs into law the Dickey Amendment which prohibited federally appropriated funds to be used for research where human embryos would be either created or destroyed.

2001-2006 - U.S. President George W. Bush endorses the Congress in providing federal funding for embryonic stem cell research of approximately $100 million as well as $250 million for research on adult and animal stem cells. He also enacts laws that restrict federally-funded stem cell research on embryonic stem cells to the already derived cell lines.

19 July, 2006 - President George W. Bush vetoes H.R. 810 (Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act), a bill that would have reversed the Clinton-era law which made it illegal for federal money to be used for research where stem cells are derived from the destruction of an embryo.

As I recall, Bush was being asked to allow research on existing stem-cell lines, and he refused.

How do ya like them facts?

[AYFR]

Course difficulty varies greatly, so the grades don't speak for themselves.

Bush had help from smarter folks when he lied to Congress.

We've all lost privacy under Bush.



As I recall, Bush was being asked to allow research on existing stem-cell lines, and he refused.

How do ya like them facts?

You recall wrong

2001-2006 - U.S. President George W. Bush endorses the Congress in providing federal funding for embryonic stem cell research of approximately $100 million as well as $250 million for research on adult and animal stem cells. He also enacts laws that restrict federally-funded stem cell research on embryonic stem cells to the already derived cell lines.


Exactly what privacy have you lost??

[Saguaro]

Do you realize that 99% of those stem cell lines are contaminated ??

[AYFR]

Wasn't part of the point.

I was responding to a false accusation.

Now if you were to ask if I believe we should fund stem cell research the I would respocd sure to an extent, so long as we using eggs that were just going to be trashed anyway.

[Trueblue]

You recall wrong




Exactly what privacy have you lost??

I'm sorry, I misspoke. What Bush was asked to do was to allow other already created embryos, scheduled for destruction, to be used for research. He refused.

Now, did Clinton forbid that?

As for what privacy I've lost, read the paper, we've all lost privacy.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20071019.html

[quiet man]

99% were contaminated to keep them from being used!
with all the advances in technology the likelyhood of our lives being monitered in one way or another are off the scale. you can call up a satillite photo of your house and tell whose cars are home and how clean your pool is! how's that for privacy lost, info used or not.

[AYFR]

I'm sorry, I misspoke. What Bush was asked to do was to allow other already created embryos, scheduled for destruction, to be used for research. He refused.

Now, did Clinton forbid that?

As for what privacy I've lost, read the paper, we've all lost privacy.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20071019.html

OK I disagree with Bush on that but Clinton did not promote that either.

What privacy have YOU specifically lost

[Yellowdogtexan]

Here is volume 2 of this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkzlxJcbx54