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sparks
11-01-2007, 04:35 PM
I watched a program on the History channel the other night about the dustbowl of the 1930's. That drought went on for 10 years before the midwest had any relief from the lack of water. Each year compounded the situation until there was a mass exodus from the area and people packed up their belongings and fled to other areas.

Tennessee is now in the second year of drought and as I did last year, I say to myself that "surely this can't go on another year". I keep thinking that Mother nature will give us a record rainfall year to make up for the two years of dry condidtions...but so far that hasn't happened.

I'm sure that folks back in the 1930's were probably also taking into consideration those law of averages for rainfall as they faced year after year of continuing drought...but no relief was to be had for 10 long, hard years.

So...are we in year two of a prolonged drought in the southeast? I suppose only time will tell.

Tenn. town has run out of water

By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer

ORME, Tenn. - As twilight falls over this Tennessee town, Mayor Tony Reames drives up a dusty dirt road to the community's towering water tank and begins his nightly ritual in front of a rusty metal valve.

With a twist of the wrist, he releases the tank's meager water supply, and suddenly this sleepy town is alive with activity. Washing machines whir, kitchen sinks fill and showers run.

About three hours later, Reames will return and reverse the process, cutting off water to the town's 145 residents.

The severe drought tightening like a vise across the Southeast has threatened the water supply of cities large and small, sending politicians scrambling for solutions. But Orme, about 40 miles west of Chattanooga and 150 miles northwest of Atlanta, is a town where the worst-case scenario has already come to pass: The water has run out.

The mighty waterfall that fed the mountain hamlet has been reduced to a trickle, and now the creek running through the center of town is dry.

Three days a week, the volunteer fire chief hops in a 1961 fire truck at 5:30 a.m. — before the school bus blocks the narrow road — and drives a few miles to an Alabama fire hydrant. He meets with another truck from nearby New Hope, Ala. The two drivers make about a dozen runs back and forth, hauling about 20,000 gallons of water from the hydrant to Orme's tank.

"I'm not God. I can't make it rain. But I'll get you the water I can get you," Reames tells residents.

Between 6 and 9 every evening, the town scurries. Residents rush home from their jobs at the carpet factories outside town to turn on washing machines. Mothers start cooking supper. Fathers fill up water jugs. Kids line up to take showers.

"You never get used to it," says Cheryl Evans, a 55-year-old who has lived in town all her life. "When you're used to having water and you ain't got it, it's strange. I can't tell you how many times I've turned on the faucet before remembering the water's been cut."

"You have to be in a rush," she says. "At 6 p.m., I start my supper, turn on my washer, fill all my water jugs, take my shower."

During its peak in the 1930s, Orme (rhymes with "storm") boasted a population of thousands, a jail, three schools and a hotel. But those boom times are long gone.

After the coal miners went on strike in the 1940s, the company shut down the mine and the town has never been the same. Not a single business is left in Orme. The only reminder of the town's glory days is an aging wooden rail depot that sits three feet above the eerily quiet streets.

Although changes are coming — cable TV arrived just a few years ago — cell phones still don't work there. The main road into town is barely wide enough for two cars to pass one another. Dogs wander the streets, farm animals can be heard all around town, and kids gather outside the one-room City Hall to ride their bikes.

"It's like walking back in time. It's Never-Never Land here," says Ernie Dawson, a 47-year-old gospel singer who grew up in Orme.

Water restrictions in Orme are nothing new. But residents say it's never been this bad.

Even last summer, as the water supply dwindled, city leaders cut off water only at night. But in August, Reames took the most extreme step yet and restricted use to three hours a day.

Elected in December, he has now spent $8,000 of the city's $13,000 annual budget to deal with the crisis. Most of the money went toward trucking water from Alabama.

He has tried to fill the gaps with modest fundraisers, but it hasn't been easy. A Halloween carnival last week cleared about $375 and a dog show two weeks ago made $300.

The town has received a $377,590 emergency grant from the U.S. Department of Agriculture that Reames hopes will be Orme's salvation. A utility crew is laying a 2 1/2-mile pipe to connect Orme to the Bridgeport, Ala., water supply. The work could be finished by Thanksgiving.

"It's not a short-term solution," Reames says. "It is THE solution."

He says the crisis in Orme could serve as a warning to other communities to conserve water before it's too late.

"I feel for the folks in Atlanta," he says, his gravelly voice barely rising above the sound of rushing water from the town's tank. "We can survive. We're 145 people. You've got 4.5 million people down there. What are they going to do? It's a scary thought."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071101/ap_on_re_us/town_without_water;_ylt=Avsfmf6Cz_19QoBOeLGpIjis0N UE

Trueblue
11-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Wow, that is scary.

My Dad grew up in Oklahoma during the Dust Bowl days. :kickcan

sparks
11-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Wow, that is scary.

My Dad grew up in Oklahoma during the Dust Bowl days. :kickcan

Yeah, ya know...I watched this program the other night and frankly I didn't realize that the dustbowl went on for such an extended period of time.

I mean...when the water runs out, it's time to move on...ya know? It's a basic element to life. And apparently now it's starting that we're running out of water. It's the beginning, unless Mother nature makes a severe correction.

I can't imagine enduring 8 more years of this drought.

Trueblue
11-01-2007, 04:44 PM
Yeah, ya know...I watched this program the other night and frankly I didn't realize that the dustbowl went on for such an extended period of time.

I mean...when the water runs out, it's time to move on...ya know? It's a basic element to life. And apparently now it's starting that we're running out of water. It's the beginning, unless Mother nature makes a severe correction.

I can't imagine enduring 8 more years of this drought.

It would completely change our way of life. I love having flowers and a pretty lawn, and that would be gone, gone, gone.

sparks
11-01-2007, 04:47 PM
It would completely change our way of life. I love having flowers and a pretty lawn, and that would be gone, gone, gone.


Oh yeah...and actually that would be the least of our worries. What about drinking water? Bathing water? Food would be scarce and have to be imported from other states, which would cause the cost of good to rise. Manufacturing uses a lot of water in some of the processes, so unemployment would rise as well.

The chain of events become rather scary when considering the trickle down.

Trueblue
11-01-2007, 05:12 PM
Oh yeah...and actually that would be the least of our worries. What about drinking water? Bathing water? Food would be scarce and have to be imported from other states, which would cause the cost of good to rise. Manufacturing uses a lot of water in some of the processes, so unemployment would rise as well.

The chain of events become rather scary when considering the trickle down.

Drinking water and water for agriculture are the scariest ones, I agree. I was just wondering if we ought to rethink our attachment to lawns.

sparks
11-01-2007, 05:37 PM
Drinking water and water for agriculture are the scariest ones, I agree. I was just wondering if we ought to rethink our attachment to lawns.

It's interesting to me that here in the southeast where ponds, lakes, rivers and streams are all abundant, that we're actually having to rethink this stuff.

I would truly miss having grass! I mean if I wanted to have a southwest type of yard, I'd have moved there. :rofl

Who knows...maybe in years to come we'll have cactus growing in the landscape beds instead of flowers. :shrug

Wabash
11-01-2007, 07:27 PM
When I still lived in Ca., in the mid 70s, we had a drought and were rationing water and not washing cars or watering lawns...it lasted about 3 years, the year after I moved, they had a pretty good rainfall which broke the drought...but they were still cautioning folks to be carefull for the following year...that year and the next 2 or 3 it rained like hell and they had flooding, and it's been pretty decent since...

The weather patterns have been rather extreme since the late 80s and most likely will continue.....in spite of the GW myth.

Trueblue
11-01-2007, 07:29 PM
When I still lived in Ca., in the mid 70s, we had a drought and were rationing water and not washing cars or watering lawns...it lasted about 3 years, the year after I moved, they had a pretty good rainfall which broke the drought...but they were still cautioning folks to be carefull for the following year...that year and the next 2 or 3 it rained like hell and they had flooding, and it's been pretty decent since...

The weather patterns have been rather extreme since the late 80s and most likely will continue.....in spite of the GW myth.

GW Bush is real, not a myth. Sadly.

Wabash
11-01-2007, 07:44 PM
GW Bush is real, not a myth. Sadly.

HAAAAAAAA!:sparks2

You kid the WabbY!

Mack the Knife
11-02-2007, 12:41 PM
I remember a few years ago when wacky Al and dysfunctional Streisand and thousands of the sky is falling crowd were all upset over hurricanes. It got to the point Al and her and others allegedly held hands and sang Kum by Ya, to make the El Nina go away! Then came the devastation of of Rita & Katrina, which caused the Major News puppets to forecast 2006 as the worst season in the History of mankind which led to normal Liberal panic among the adult children. Well NOTHING happened except maybe an isolated 1 or 2 in the TX area! This caused Gore and gang to come up with something new and now its Global Warming, instead of cyclical weather patterns and again the panic crowd is dutifully right in line!

We went through two years of fairly dry to dry conditions here in MO-OK-KS areas and then this year we have had 30", and I think KS-OK is higher than that. Tough it up buttercup, and quit listening to political BS from liars like Gore and others.

toxic
11-02-2007, 01:36 PM
Global Warming is related to Polar Ice Caps. Elsewhere, erratic weather will be the norm. What you describes fits perfectly.

Wabash
11-02-2007, 02:28 PM
Anyway you cut it....THE SKY IS NOT FALLING! GW IS OVERBLOWN BY THE LEFT WITH A SPECIFIC AGENDA TOWARD SOCIALISM!

The Hijacked Demo Party is all about socialism!

sparks
11-02-2007, 02:30 PM
I remember a few years ago when wacky Al and dysfunctional Streisand and thousands of the sky is falling crowd were all upset over hurricanes. It got to the point Al and her and others allegedly held hands and sang Kum by Ya, to make the El Nina go away! Then came the devastation of of Rita & Katrina, which caused the Major News puppets to forecast 2006 as the worst season in the History of mankind which led to normal Liberal panic among the adult children. Well NOTHING happened except maybe an isolated 1 or 2 in the TX area! This caused Gore and gang to come up with something new and now its Global Warming, instead of cyclical weather patterns and again the panic crowd is dutifully right in line!

We went through two years of fairly dry to dry conditions here in MO-OK-KS areas and then this year we have had 30", and I think KS-OK is higher than that. Tough it up buttercup, and quit listening to political BS from liars like Gore and others.

I think Mack has a soft spot for me! :rofl

Wabash
11-02-2007, 02:39 PM
I think Mack has a soft spot for me! :rofl

Yup! He doesn't throw those "buttercups" around frivolously! :)

sparks
11-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Yup! He doesn't throw those "buttercups" around frivolously! :)


:rofl

Mack the Knife
11-03-2007, 03:58 PM
I think Mack has a soft spot for me! :rofl


If your a gal then I sure do! If your a guy then your OK, as I don't ahve a problem with anyone, untiil they cross that line in life we all know to stay away from! strange thing about this Global Warming crowd, they try their damndest to blame it on the GOP's corporate crowd, when in fact MAN is only responsible for less than 5% of so called carbon polluters. Cattle, rice paddies, and volcano's contribute a lot and the last I looked that was Mother Nature?

sparks
11-03-2007, 04:10 PM
If your a gal then I sure do! If your a guy then your OK, as I don't ahve a problem with anyone, untiil they cross that line in life we all know to stay away from! strange thing about this Global Warming crowd, they try their damndest to blame it on the GOP's corporate crowd, when in fact MAN is only responsible for less than 5% of so called carbon polluters. Cattle, rice paddies, and volcano's contribute a lot and the last I looked that was Mother Nature?

:wnude

:rofl

I'm such a flirt! :sparks

:rofl

Trueblue
11-03-2007, 04:19 PM
If your a gal then I sure do! If your a guy then your OK, as I don't ahve a problem with anyone, untiil they cross that line in life we all know to stay away from! strange thing about this Global Warming crowd, they try their damndest to blame it on the GOP's corporate crowd, when in fact MAN is only responsible for less than 5% of so called carbon polluters. Cattle, rice paddies, and volcano's contribute a lot and the last I looked that was Mother Nature?

Is that right? What's your source, Mack? :mw :sparks

Wabash
11-03-2007, 07:49 PM
Is that right? What's your source, Mack? :mw :sparks

I don't know what his source is, but I have said for years that one volcano erupting is far worse than all else put together.......this so called "man made" thing is liberal agenda hype and I will not buy into it...
Of course TB, I know you have, you think the discussion is over, when in fact, it has just begun!

Lone Laugher
11-03-2007, 08:07 PM
If your a gal then I sure do! If your a guy then your OK, as I don't ahve a problem with anyone, untiil they cross that line in life we all know to stay away from! strange thing about this Global Warming crowd, they try their damndest to blame it on the GOP's corporate crowd, when in fact MAN is only responsible for less than 5% of so called carbon polluters. Cattle, rice paddies, and volcano's contribute a lot and the last I looked that was Mother Nature?


Oh? What line is that MackDaddy? You have a line that we all know to stay away from? Ooooh, you sound so big and tough!

Trueblue
11-04-2007, 09:57 AM
I don't know what his source is, but I have said for years that one volcano erupting is far worse than all else put together.......this so called "man made" thing is liberal agenda hype and I will not buy into it...
Of course TB, I know you have, you think the discussion is over, when in fact, it has just begun!

This is why I keep asking you if there is something wrong with your memory.

Rush has repeated this distortion for years, I've corrected it about twenty times, and yet you still remember what Rush said instead of the facts.

Your belief that global warming is not man-made based on faith, not science.

The discussion on boards may not be over, but as a matter of public policy, I am truly thankful to God that the discussion is over.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1895

http://www.bestofmaui.com/rush.html

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/pressrelease.cfm?contentID=2433

RUSH FICTION: "Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines spewed forth more than 1,000 times the amount of ozone-depleting chemicals in one eruption than all the fluorocarbons manufactured by wicked, diabolical and insensitive corporations in history..."

SCIENTIFIC FACT: Cumulatively speaking, Pinatubo's impact on the ozone layer has been about 50 times less than that of CFC's. Volcanoes emit two sorts of ozone-depleting compounds: hydrochloric acid (amounts measured in the stratosphere were largely unchanged by the Pinatubo eruption) and sulfur dioxide (converted in the stratosphere into tiny particles which act in combination with chlorine from man-made CFC's. This temporarily increased the rate of ozone depletion by several percentage points during 1992 and 1993). Nearly all the chemicals emitted by Pinatubo have already washed out of the stratosphere, unlike CFC's, which remain for as long as a century.

Now, who wants to take bets on how long it will be before Wabash repeats this debunked claim?

Matt
11-05-2007, 06:28 AM
RUSH FICTION: "Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines spewed forth more than 1,000 times the amount of ozone-depleting chemicals in one eruption than all the fluorocarbons manufactured by wicked, diabolical and insensitive corporations in history..."

It's hard to believe ~ even if all of this information were true ~ that info like this is being used to discredit global warming.

If Mt. Pinatuba was that bad, it only adds to the problems of global warming.
It doesn't negate the other problems that are being caused by mankind.

Trueblue
11-05-2007, 07:17 PM
RUSH FICTION: "Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines spewed forth more than 1,000 times the amount of ozone-depleting chemicals in one eruption than all the fluorocarbons manufactured by wicked, diabolical and insensitive corporations in history..."

It's hard to believe ~ even if all of this information were true ~ that info like this is being used to discredit global warming.

If Mt. Pinatuba was that bad, it only adds to the problems of global warming.
It doesn't negate the other problems that are being caused by mankind.

:werd