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Wabash
11-01-2007, 01:22 AM
Ann Coulter
10/31/2007

The Anti-Defamation League is to Jews what the National Organization for Women is to women and the ACLU is to civil libertarians. They represent not Jews or women or civil libertarians, but the left wing of the Democratic Party.

In the paramount threat of our time, the Democratic Party is AWOL. And those are the patriotic Democrats. The rest are actively aiding the enemy.

The blood of millions of Israelis is at stake, and the ADL is flacking for a party that yearns to surrender to the terrorists.

To hide the dirty little secret of the left's burgeoning anti-Semitism, liberals act as if they live in abject terror of right-wingers. When it comes to conservatives, the Anti-Defamation League is the Pro-Defamation League.

For decades, most Jews supported the left, and the left supported Jewish causes. But the left moved on long ago. For liberals, Jews are just so "last Holocaust."

The ADL gently chided Columbia University for making the "mistake" of inviting a genocidal, Holocaust-denying Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak. It tepidly criticized Ahmadinejad's speech for being "a charade of half-answers and obfuscation." That sounds like a fair description of Hillary's current stump speech.

The ADL and its ilk reserve their real venom for a beast like Dennis Prager -- a leading Jewish intellectual, author and radio talk show host. Last year, Prager made the manifestly obvious point that the first Muslim congressman, Keith Ellison, should take his oath of office not on a Quran, but on a Bible, in recognition of "the value system (that) underlies American civilization."

According to the ADL, Prager's column was not a trifling "mistake" on the order of allowing an American audience at one of America's premier universities to give a standing ovation to a murderous, racist lunatic. Prager was "intolerant, misinformed and downright un-American." I think I'd take "obfuscation."

The relevant organs of pious liberal society were promptly rounded up to censure Prager, including the American Jewish Committee and two members of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council, Rep. Henry Waxman and former New York Mayor Ed Koch -- who called Prager a "bigot." Do they have Ellison on the record acknowledging whether the Holocaust happened?

The executive committee of the Holocaust Museum called Prager's column antithetical to "tolerance and respect for all peoples regardless of their race, religion or ethnicity."

But you'll see that famed liberal "tolerance" dry up pretty fast if you render a simple statement of the beliefs of Christians.

The usual liberal coterie acts shocked and offended by Christians who actually believe Christianity is true -- unlike Democratic politicians -- to conceal the fact that the left is increasingly dominated by people conniving in the destruction of Israel.

How about having Tim Russert ask Hillary if she believes the New Testament is the perfection of the Old Testament? She claims to be a Christian. Let's get it on the table: Is she or isn't she? It doesn't get any more bare-bones than that.

Let the cat out of the bag that a 2,000-year-old religion practiced by a majority of Americans teaches that Jesus came in "fulfillment of the scriptures," and you might be better off if you had adopted the preferred approach of liberals' new friends the Muslims and simply slit the Jew's throat.

At least the ADL wouldn't object.

They're too busy conspiring with the Council on American-Islamic Relations to denounce Dennis Prager. And promoting gun control. And gay marriage. And illegal immigration. You know, all the issues that have historically kept the Jews safe.

The ADL denounces the teaching of intelligent design, the placement of the Ten Commandments on public property and Bibles in public schools. Any entity that disagrees with them on these issues will be labeled an "extremist organization."

Gosh, it's a good thing there isn't a worldwide terrorist movement dedicated to killing Jews. The ADL might have to tear themselves away from promoting faddish liberal causes.

The ADL is more concerned with what it calls the "neo-Nazis" and "anti-Semites" in the Minutemen organization than with people who behead Jews whenever they get half a chance. It's only a matter of time before the ADL gets around to global warming.

Earlier this year, the ADL issued an alarmist report, declaring that the Ku Klux Klan has experienced "a surprising and troubling resurgence" in the U.S., which I take it to mean that nationwide KKK membership is now approaching double digits. Liberal Jews seem to be blithely unaware that the singular threat to Jews at the moment is the complete annihilation of Israel. Why won't they focus on the genuine threat of Islamo-fascism and leave poor old Robert Byrd alone?

The ADL goes around collecting statements from Democrats proclaiming their general support for Israel, but it refuses to criticize Democrats who attack Joe Lieberman for supporting the war and who tolerate the likes of former congresswoman Cynthia McKinney.

Sure, Hillary will show up at an ADL dinner and announce that she supports Israel. And then she gets testy with Bush for talking about sanctions against Iran in too rough a tone of voice.

What does it mean for the ADL to collect those statements?

The survival of Israel is inextricably linked to the survival of the Republican Party and its evangelical base. And yet the ADL viciously attacks conservatives, implying that there is some genetic anti-Semitism among right-wingers in order to hide the fact that anti-Semites are the ADL's best friends -- the defeatists in Congress, the people who tried to drive Joe Lieberman from office, the hoodlums on college campuses who riot at any criticism of Muslim terrorists and identify Israel as an imperialist aggressor, and liberal college faculties calling for "anti-apartheid" boycotts of Israel.

The Democratic Party sleeps with anti-Semites every night, but groups like the ADL love to play-act their bravery at battling ghosts, as if it's the 1920s and they are still fighting quotas at Harvard.

Earlier this year, Rep. Virgil Goode Jr., R-Va., said "in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America."

The ADL attacked him, saying, "Bigots have always hid behind the immigration issue."

Like the noose hysteria currently sweeping New York City, liberals are always fighting the last battle because the current battle is too frightening.

Liberal Jews are on a collision course with themselves. They can't reconcile the survival of Israel with their conception of themselves as liberals. The liberal coalition has turned against them. Jews are out; Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is in. The new king knows not Joseph.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23174#continueA

Yellowdogtexan
11-01-2007, 07:31 AM
What a piece of tripe. coulter has been called about by the ADL for her anti-semetic remarks and so has come out with her nomral crap. The only thing sader than coulter is that there are idiots who are so stupid that they buy any of this crap. Wabby you are a homophobe and hater. You have also made ignorant anti-semetic comments in the past. The fact that you agree with coulter is just plain sad but confirms the fact that you are an idiot.

The Q
11-01-2007, 08:54 AM
If I was a lawyer I'd start an ADL for Muslims. :kickcan

ADQ

issac the dragon
11-01-2007, 11:05 AM
Good grief! One: disapproval of something a Jew says is not anti-semitism. Two: Israel is a nation, not a religion. The neo-cons have a very hard time understanding that. Is it too complicated for their simple black/white brains?
Furthermore, Prager was wrong. We have freedom of religion in this country. Just because someone who says something stupid is a Jew doesn't make it a Jewish statement.

Yellowdogtexan
11-01-2007, 11:11 AM
The whole Praeger stupidity was just that, stupid. Praeger is an idiot and was trying to impose a religious test that would be in violation of the constitution. The whole controversy was so stupid that it was not even funny and the fact that coulter thinks that this issue had merit shows how stupid she is.

The ADL condemnation of coulter hit home and coulter's feelings are hurt. To bad.

Wabash
11-01-2007, 11:53 AM
What a piece of tripe. coulter has been called about by the ADL for her anti-semetic remarks and so has come out with her nomral crap. The only thing sader than coulter is that there are idiots who are so stupid that they buy any of this crap. Wabby you are a homophobe and hater. You have also made ignorant anti-semetic comments in the past. The fact that you agree with coulter is just plain sad but confirms the fact that you are an idiot.

When I read this dog...I thought of you, especially this line:

"Liberal Jews are on a collision course with themselves"....that whole paragrph fits you to a T!!!

If I was a lawyer I'd start an ADL for Muslims. :kickcan

ADQ

You don't have to the ADL is doing a Bang Up job for you!

Good grief! One: disapproval of something a Jew says is not anti-semitism. Two: Israel is a nation, not a religion. The neo-cons have a very hard time understanding that. Is it too complicated for their simple black/white brains?
Furthermore, Prager was wrong. We have freedom of religion in this country. Just because someone who says something stupid is a Jew doesn't make it a Jewish statement.

Too funny. If a Christian says something stupid in this country, you are one of the first to SLAM the entire community for it...and have!

Wabash
11-01-2007, 11:55 AM
The whole Praeger stupidity was just that, stupid. Praeger is an idiot and was trying to impose a religious test that would be in violation of the constitution. The whole controversy was so stupid that it was not even funny and the fact that coulter thinks that this issue had merit shows how stupid she is.

The ADL condemnation of coulter hit home and coulter's feelings are hurt. To bad.

I doubt you could hurt her feelings...she's a tough broad and...RIGHT ON the MONEY!

Liberal Jews are on a collision course with themselves. They can't reconcile the survival of Israel with their conception of themselves as liberals. The liberal coalition has turned against them. Jews are out; Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is in. The new king knows not Joseph. YEP!:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap

Wabash
11-01-2007, 11:59 AM
Of all the Jews that I know personally, witnessed on TV and in public talks and on this forum, Ann Coulter is sooooooooooooo RIGHT, I can't belive she said it!

GREAT PIECE ANN, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!:ringo

issac the dragon
11-01-2007, 03:05 PM
I have slammed individuals who claim to be spokespersons for Christianity, and I have bitched about real Christians for tolerating them and not speaking out in public against them. And I have slammed Christians for believing the completely unbelievable. But I have never slammed Christianity for the stupidity of one person who claims to speak for all Christians.

By the way, in my lifetime, Jews protested individually, and through the ADA, that they were forced to take oaths on The New Testament. The laws were changed, and they were allowed to take oaths on the Bible or Holy Book of their choice. Why would Jews today try to do the same thing to Muslims?

Yellowdogtexan
11-01-2007, 03:50 PM
The premise of coulters latest piece of stupidity is that the ADL does not know what is best for Israel and Judasim. Such a claim is so stupid that only idiots would listen to such tripe. The fact that wabby finds these comments meaningful is a sad comment on wabby and proof of his ignorance on these issues.

Wabash
11-01-2007, 03:55 PM
I have slammed individuals who claim to be spokespersons for Christianity, and I have bitched about real Christians for tolerating them and not speaking out in public against them. And I have slammed Christians for believing the completely unbelievable. But I have never slammed Christianity for the stupidity of one person who claims to speak for all Christians.

By the way, in my lifetime, Jews protested individually, and through the ADA, that they were forced to take oaths on The New Testament. The laws were changed, and they were allowed to take oaths on the Bible or Holy Book of their choice. Why would Jews today try to do the same thing to Muslims?

Simple ...it is the LIBERAL thing to do in this age of fucked up PC and ..."tolerance". Something that liberals preach, but when it comes to Bush or Conservatives or Christians, do not practice!

The premise of coulters latest piece of stupidity is that the ADL does not know what is best for Israel and Judasim. Such a claim is so stupid that only idiots would listen to such tripe. The fact that wabby finds these comments meaningful is a sad comment on wabby and proof of his ignorance on these issues.

You are a sell out to the liberals agenda of moveon.org ... and...from the looks of this article....so is the ADL!

People must stand up for what they believe, and courting Muslims or the liberal agenda is wrong as wrong can be!

issac the dragon
11-01-2007, 04:02 PM
Muslims are humans and the ones who are citizens of this country deserve the same treatment any one else gets. And the ones who visit here should be treated as honored guests.

There are more options against liberals than just fascism.

Trueblue
11-01-2007, 04:02 PM
When I read this dog...I thought of you, especially this line:

"Liberal Jews are on a collision course with themselves"....that whole paragrph fits you to a T!!!



You don't have to the ADL is doing a Bang Up job for you!



Too funny. If a Christian says something stupid in this country, you are one of the first to SLAM the entire community for it...and have!


Explain what that means.

Wabash
11-01-2007, 04:09 PM
Muslims are humans and the ones who are citizens of this country deserve the same treatment any one else gets. And the ones who visit here should be treated as honored guests.

There are more options against liberals than just fascism.

I'm not talking about disrespecting legitimate and law abiding citizens...so just because I use a generic term doesn't mean I'm targeting a whole generation of good people!
When I lived in the SF Bay Area I delivered to many Muslims on my route and enjoyed talking and laughing with them as well as sharing their food! Don't be trying to stereo type me...

Explain what that means.

You know damn well what it means...don't play games with me!

Trueblue
11-01-2007, 04:10 PM
I'm not talking about disrespecting legitimate and law abiding citizens...so just because I use a generic term doesn't mean I'm targeting a whole generation of good people!



You know damn well what it means...don't play games with me!

I'm not playing any games, I don't understand what it means.

Yellowdogtexan
11-01-2007, 04:51 PM
Wabby

Here is a song about coulter that you may like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye_2a7Lrl80

The Q
11-01-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm not talking about disrespecting legitimate and law abiding citizens...so just because I use a generic term doesn't mean I'm targeting a whole generation of good people!

YES! IT DOES!

:slap

ADQ

Yellowdogtexan
11-02-2007, 06:54 PM
This is amusing. http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/MSNBC's Chris Matthews says it will be "a while" before the incendiary conservative pundit is invited back to the show.

The turning point, Matthews says, was Coulter's controversial remarks — which many perceived as anti-Semitic — on CNBC's "The Big Idea with Donny Deutsch" Oct. 8.

"To me, it has to do with how many people are really offended; who tell me to my face when I bump into them," Matthews said in an interview before Tuesday's Democratic presidential debate in Philadelphia. "I'm affected by that."

Coulter "can be funny and clever with her sarcasm, or she can be hurtful," he says. "She doesn't just do evil as her number. You never know what bell she's going to ring. She doesn't know what bell she's going to ring."

issac the dragon
11-02-2007, 07:15 PM
If certain people on this board have a problem with people misunderstanding them, perhaps they need to reflect on what they are saying. When a person posts about Muslims, blacks, Latinos,etc., saying things such as, they are stupid, unpatriotic, commies, terrorists, then we have a certain perception of the poster. He/she is a bigot who dislikes all of that particular group of people.

If a poster feels that a black or whatever has done something, say so. Don't include all members of that group. And the people who do so know damn good and well what they are doing. No one on this board owes them an apology for thinking they are bigots. They talk like bigots. So excuse me Wabash. I will consider you a bigot until you stop bashing all members of a group for what perhaps only one has done.

Ringo
11-06-2007, 10:10 AM
The premise of coulters latest piece of stupidity is that the ADL does not know what is best for Israel and Judasim. Such a claim is so stupid that only idiots would listen to such tripe. The fact that wabby finds these comments meaningful is a sad comment on wabby and proof of his ignorance on these issues.

Whats best for Israel that a CONVERT like you might know? Would it be best if they were a suburb of Palestine or wiped off the map by the fucking Iranian Islamic radical asshole? Tell us all expert?:theman

The Q
11-06-2007, 10:15 AM
Most religious converts are more active and knowledgeable about their religion than people that were born in to it.

I know a woman who converted to Judaism, and she had to go through RIGOROUS studies and pass some kind of test in order to convert. You don't just get to throw on a yarmukle and say, "I'm JEWISH now! OY!"

And considering that YDT sits on the board of his synagogue, I'd say he's in a pretty good position to represent the thoughts of the Jewish community.

ADQ

patriotsblade
11-06-2007, 11:50 AM
You don't just get to throw on a yarmukle and say, "I'm JEWISH now! OY!"

:rofl

toxic
11-06-2007, 12:10 PM
Good grief! One: disapproval of something a Jew says is not anti-semitism. Two: Israel is a nation, not a religion. The neo-cons have a very hard time understanding that. Is it too complicated for their simple black/white brains?
Furthermore, Prager was wrong. We have freedom of religion in this country. Just because someone who says something stupid is a Jew doesn't make it a Jewish statement.

That isn't completely true and sometimes I'm not sure which country they have alliegence to.

http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/images/bush_israel_flag.jpg

One of the difficulties I have with Israel is that it is an Officially Religious State. That's why there flag has the Star of David.

1) Only Jews can join the Military or Police.
2) Taxes buy Kosher food state functions and religious garments for military personnel.
3) American Neo-Cons seem to favor Israel over the USA.

Clearly, John Stewart, YellowDogTexan, et al, seem to be clear thinking when it comes to unnecessary wars.

I admit, I can be moderately skeptical of the intention of American Jews at times. I don't think they can all be lumped together, but don't know exactly how to divide them either.

Wabash
11-06-2007, 01:12 PM
If certain people on this board have a problem with people misunderstanding them, perhaps they need to reflect on what they are saying. When a person posts about Muslims, blacks, Latinos,etc., saying things such as, they are stupid, unpatriotic, commies, terrorists, then we have a certain perception of the poster. He/she is a bigot who dislikes all of that particular group of people.

If a poster feels that a black or whatever has done something, say so. Don't include all members of that group. And the people who do so know damn good and well what they are doing. No one on this board owes them an apology for thinking they are bigots. They talk like bigots. So excuse me Wabash. I will consider you a bigot until you stop bashing all members of a group for what perhaps only one has done.

Ok, you are excused...come back when you can speak w/o liberal bias! You know, whereby you lump all Conservatives in with Bush and the Religious Right!

Most religious converts are more active and knowledgeable about their religion than people that were born in to it.

I know a woman who converted to Judaism, and she had to go through RIGOROUS studies and pass some kind of test in order to convert. You don't just get to throw on a yarmukle and say, "I'm JEWISH now! OY!"

And considering that YDT sits on the board of his synagogue, I'd say he's in a pretty good position to represent the thoughts of the Jewish community.

ADQ

Ya, and you don't just say "I Believe in Global Warming" and become an expert either!

Which thoughts of the Jewish Community do you think he represents...the Anti-Israel liberal part or the Pro-Israel conservative part?

That isn't completely true and sometimes I'm not sure which country they have alliegence to.

http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/images/bush_israel_flag.jpg

One of the difficulties I have with Israel is that it is an Officially Religious State. That's why there flag has the Star of David.

1) Only Jews can join the Military or Police.
2) Taxes buy Kosher food state functions and religious garments for military personnel.
3) American Neo-Cons seem to favor Israel over the USA.

Clearly, John Stewart, YellowDogTexan, et al, seem to be clear thinking when it comes to unnecessary wars.

I admit, I can be moderately skeptical of the intention of American Jews at times. I don't think they can all be lumped together, but don't know exactly how to divide them either.
I'm skeptical of American Jews most of the time! They display hate for Israel, yet proclaim themselves to be good Jews! Especially the Jews that control Hollywood! I think that their thinking is convoluted at best!
As for favoring Israel over USA....I think you have that screwed up as well...Israel is a partner and an ally of the USA....and a damn Good One!

Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 02:02 PM
I admit, I can be moderately skeptical of the intention of American Jews at times. I don't think they can all be lumped together, but don't know exactly how to divide them either.Put five Jews in the room and you will get at least ten different opinions. It is difficult to group American Jews other than we both love Israel and can be disappointed in Israel at times. The settlement issue was one thing that I disagree with the Israeli govt on and I was not alone.

Remember that a great deal of support for Israel comes from the American religous right who are hoping that the existence of a Jewish state will somehow hasten the return of Jesus. Jews are not proud and have accepted such support but do not necessarily trust these people.

Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 02:06 PM
Ya, and you don't just say "I Believe in Global Warming" and become an expert either!Many years of debate and law school have shown me how to evaluate the science and what to look for in peer reviewed studies. I actually do read the footnotes and check the underlying studies to arrive at my opinions which are based on real science and not crap from Exxon or the AEI. I am happy that my opinions are supported by real science as compared to the crap cited by wabby and ringo who evidently still believe that world is flat.

Yellowdogtexan
11-06-2007, 02:08 PM
I'm skeptical of American Jews most of the time! They display hate for Israel, yet proclaim themselves to be good Jews! Especially the Jews that control Hollywood! I think that their thinking is convoluted at best!There are so many WRONG and anti-semetic statements in this quote that I do not know where to begin other than to pray for wabby. He really needs some serious help.

The Q
11-06-2007, 02:38 PM
Put five Jews in the room and you will get at least ten different opinions. It is difficult to group American Jews other than we both love Israel and can be disappointed in Israel at times. The settlement issue was one thing that I disagree with the Israeli govt on and I was not alone.

Remember that a great deal of support for Israel comes from the American religous right who are hoping that the existence of a Jewish state will somehow hasten the return of Jesus. Jews are not proud and have accepted such support but do not necessarily trust these people.

You know, this is one of the most accurate responses I've ever read on this forum.

I have had a lot of interaction with people from all faith traditions--and I can say that there are no way to clearly divide any of those groups into 'either / or' categories.

The Jewish community here in Austin is so varied--we have something like eight or 10 synagogues--and the Jews I've spent time with (some orthodox, some reform) are all individual, opinionated, and deep-thinking about the issues of the world. I've sat on panels with Muslims and Jews to discuss political and religious issues--and we've celebrated events together--with respect, honesty, and genuine goodwill.

The problems in the world aren't about "religion". In America we've proved that religions can co-exist peacefully.

Only a fool would try to lump people into simple categories. What YDT said here is absolutely an accurate representation of how people in these communities feel. It is entirely possible to love your people and feel disappointed in them. I do, as a Muslim; I do, as an American.

ADQ

Trueblue
11-06-2007, 06:20 PM
I've been reading the Bible since I was eight and I feel like I'm just scratching the surface. My study has led me to very different views from those held by some Christians. The "Hollywood" Jews can be very good Jews, and yet not support many of the actions of the Israeli government. Every religion that I know of has members who have different interpretations and views about that religion.

Ringo
11-08-2007, 11:08 AM
Most religious converts are more active and knowledgeable about their religion than people that were born in to it.

I know a woman who converted to Judaism, and she had to go through RIGOROUS studies and pass some kind of test in order to convert. You don't just get to throw on a yarmukle and say, "I'm JEWISH now! OY!"

And considering that YDT sits on the board of his synagogue, I'd say he's in a pretty good position to represent the thoughts of the Jewish community.

ADQ

Then there is me...I get NO respect! I was in the shower this morning and I glanced down at my Johnson, and oh my God, I found out I was Jewish by default!!:pisslaugh:mnude:idea

The Q
11-08-2007, 11:10 AM
OMG! :rofl2

ADQ

The Q
11-08-2007, 11:11 AM
Congratulations, Ringo--you've been quoted. :snicker

ADQ