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Kurtz
10-27-2007, 06:33 PM
Baltimore, Maryland) In what is believed to be the first civil lawsuit against the Rev. Fred Phelps' church over an anti-gay protest at the funeral of someone from the military killed in Iraq, the father of the dead Marine said the demonstration made him sick to his stomach and gave him nightmares.

Albert Snyder is suing Phelps and his Topeka, Kan.-based church after church members demonstrated at the funeral of Lance Cpl. Matthew Snyder last year in Maryland, and then posted pictures of the protest on their Web site.

Cpl. Snyder was killed in March, 2006.

Snyder's lawsuit alleges church members violated the family's right to privacy and defamed the Marine and his family at the funeral and on the church's Web site.

"They turned this funeral into a media circus and they wanted to hurt my family," Albert Snyder testified.

"They wanted their message heard and they didn't care who they stepped over. My son should have been buried with dignity, not with a bunch of clowns outside."

Westboro Baptist has 70 members, made up mostly of Phelps' relatives. Although it professes to be Baptist it is not affiliated with any national Baptist group.

Westboro operates Web sites including GodHatesFags and GodHatesAmerica and has been described as a cult.

Phelps and the church first came to national attention when he organized a protest by his followers outside the 1998 funeral for Matthew Shepherd, the gay college student who was beaten to death in Wyoming. The killing, Phelps' protest, and the reaction of townsfolk led to the play "The Laramie Project."

Church members routinely demonstrate at the funerals of AIDS victims and most recently at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq.

Westboro Baptist's picketing of soldiers' funerals led Congress and 34 states to enact laws attempting to restrict such protests.

Snyder is seeking unspecified monetary damages in the lawsuit.

On the witness stand he was asked about signs carried by some of the protestors that said "Thank God for dead soldiers."

"I see that sign when I lay in bed," Snyder told the court.

The church's web site said that Matthew Snyder was raised to support the "Roman Catholic monstrosity" and then sent to fight for the "United States of Sodomy."

"They have no right to do this to people they didn't know," Snyder testified.

He also told the court that he was concerned by the children involved in the protest.

"I pray for their children. Their children need help. To be brought up with that kind of hatred," Snyder said.

Under cross examination from Westboro's attorney, Snyder acknowledged that the protestors were about 1,000 feet away from the church where the funeral was taking place.

Phelps followed Snyder on the stand and said that he uses the term "fag" because "it comes from scripture" but added that he could also have used Sodomite or dog.

At the beginning of the trial U.S. District court judge Richard Bennett instructed jurors the First Amendment protection of free speech has limits.

"[You must decide] whether the defendant's actions would be highly offensive to a reasonable person, whether they were extreme and outrageous, and whether these actions were so offensive and shocking as to not be entitled to First Amendment protection," he told the jury.

Phelps Sick (http://www.365gay.com/Newscon07/10/102607phelps.htm)

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Saguaro
10-27-2007, 07:11 PM
Phelps makes me sick too

Kurtz
10-27-2007, 07:22 PM
Phelps makes me sick too


Maybe it shoulda been a class action suit,
Phelps makes most civilized Americans sick.

issac the dragon
10-27-2007, 10:31 PM
Maybe Christians should sue him for slandering the name of Christ. That is, if they disagree with what he is doing and saying.

Ringo
10-28-2007, 09:33 AM
This no good son of a bitch needs his ass kicked and I mean kicked BAD! If I had a shot at him, and he was able to count to 1, he could easily inventory his remaining teeth the no good bastard! The cops and Family should just look the other way sometime and let the Patriots MC gang tear into this worthless bunch of Devil worshippers!!


The Jesus I have come to know was not a Hater, so where Phelps gets his ideas from, must be where other Rabid Radical Religions, find their Ammo of Hate!:devil:devil

Kurtz
10-28-2007, 09:45 AM
In addition to our soldiers, here's some other heroes:
http://www.patriotguard.org/

Patriot Guard Riders Mission Statement

The Patriot Guard Riders is a diverse amalgamation of riders from across the nation. We have one thing in common besides motorcycles. We have an unwavering respect for those who risk their very lives for America’s freedom and security. If you share this respect, please join us.

We don’t care what you ride or if you ride, what your political views are, or whether you’re a hawk or a dove. It is not a requirement that you be a veteran. It doesn't matter where you’re from or what your income is; you don’t even have to ride. The only prerequisite is Respect.

Our main mission is to attend the funeral services of fallen American heroes as invited guests of the family. Each mission we undertake has two basic objectives.

1. Show our sincere respect for our fallen heroes, their families, and their communities.

2. Shield the mourning family and their friends from interruptions created by any protestor or group of protestors.

We accomplish the latter through strictly legal and non-violent means.

To those of you who are currently serving and fighting for the freedoms of others, at home and abroad, please know that we are backing you. We honor and support you with every mission we carry out, and we are praying for a safe return home for all.



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Ringo
10-28-2007, 12:50 PM
In addition to our soldiers, here's some other heroes:
http://www.patriotguard.org/



:pblade

These are good people, unfortunately some will be turned off by the Biker Image, although they have yet to be involved in any violence or altercations!
Some of the people I came in contact with in my line of work have unfortunately shown me that some people in life will only respond to a good ass kicking, and Phelps would be in that category, and I suspect God might forgive me pretty easily??:godzilla

The Q
10-28-2007, 01:21 PM
The Jesus I have come to know was not a Hater, so where Phelps gets his ideas from, must be where other Rabid Radical Religions, find their Ammo of Hate!:devil:devil

:yep

I feel the same way about terrorist Muslims.

ADQ

Yellowdogtexan
10-29-2007, 01:34 PM
I imagine that the legal reason for this testimony is to prove up some actual physical damages so that the plaintiffs can get punitive damages. The courts have made it very difficult to get punitive damages now days and normally you need some actual damages. To document mental anguish in most states, you need some physical symptoms such as throwing up.

If I am correct, the lawyers for these plaintiffs are building a case for both actual damages due to mental anguish and punitiive damages against phelps and his homophobic band of idiots.