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Wabash
10-25-2007, 12:18 PM
Subject: Fw: You talk about frightening!!!


THERE GOES OUR RETIREMENT!!

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?.


Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock
market pfits (including Retirement fund, 401Ks and Mutual Funds! Alas, it
is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed
Minorities!

Boy, are we in trouble... This woman is frightening. Take special note
of the last paragraph. Is she really this whacked out?


Nancy Pelosi condemned the new record highs of the stock market
as "just another example of Bush policies helping the rich get richer".
"First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new
record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are
getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class". She
went on to say "Despite the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq our
economy is still strong and government tax revenues are at all time highs.
What this really means is that business is exploiting the war effort and
working Americans, just to put money in their own pockets".


When questioned about recent stock market highs she responded
"Only the rich benefit from these rec ord highs. Working Americans, welfare
recipients, the unemployed and minorities are not sharing in these obscene
record highs". There is no question these windfall profits and income
created by the Bush administration need to be taxed at 100% rate and those
dollars redistributed to the poor and working class". Profits from the
stock market do not reward the hard work of our working class who, by their
hard work, are responsible for generating these corporate profits that
create stock market profits for the rich. We in congress will need to
address this issue to either tax these profits or to control the stock
market to prevent this unearned income t o flow to the rich."


When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have
investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401Ks, and the stock market
she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5% account for 90% of all
these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down" economics
claiming that if a corporation is successful that everyone from the CEO to
the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job security which is
ridiculous". "How much of this 'trickle down' ever gets to the unemployed
and minorities in our county? None, and that's the tragedy of these stock
market highs."


"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election
when we take control of the congress. We will return to the 60% to 80% tax
rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all current
lower income tax payers off the rolls and increase government income
substantially." We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our
country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."


When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied
: "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and
minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants
in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed
minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to
guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as
'Americans'."


Comment: Where I come from, this is called Socialism!

This was sent to me in an email this morning....

I tried to Snopes this, but couldn't locate it. My comments stand,
regardless.

Let us understand that Democrats are no longer Democrats, but are
Socialists, Communists, Marxists. If you claim to be and vote for a
Democrat, you are spitting in the face of every Cold War veteran, Korean War
veteran, Vietnam War veteran, all of whom fought, shed blood or died to
prevent the very acts the Neo-Democrats are perpetrating.

Thank you colleges and universities. Thank you high schools and elementary
schools. Thank you NEA. Thank you all citizens with cranial rectitus or a
bad case of stupid.

Saguaro
10-25-2007, 12:34 PM
Urban Legends Ads
Nancy Pelosi Quotes

Hoax Urban Legends

Urban Myths

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Myths Legends
Circulating via email, purported statements by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi condemning stock market profit-taking and advocating redistribution of wealth via a 100% windfall tax.


Description: Email hoax / Satire
Circulating since: Oct. 2006Status: False


Email example contributed by R. Foley, 5 Nov. 2006:

Subject: Nancy Pelosi
Published: October 22, 2006

Nancy Pelosi condemed the new record highs of the stock market as "just another example of Bush policies helping the rich get richer".

"First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class".

She went on to say "Despite the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq our economy is still strong and government tax revenues are at all time highs. What this really means is that business is exploiting the war effort and working Americans just to put money in their own pockets".

When questioned about recent stock market highs she r esponded "Only the rich benefit from these record highs. Working Americans, welfare recipients, the unemployed and minorities are not sharing in these obscene record highs".

"There is no question these windfall profits and income created by the Bush administration need to be taxed at 100% rate and those dollars redistributed to the poor and working class".

"Profits from the stock market do not reward the hard work of our working class who, buy their hard work, are responsible for generating these corporate profits that create stock market profits for the rich. We in congress will need to address this issue to either tax these profits or to control the stock market to prevent this unearned income to flow to the rich".

When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401K's, and the stock market she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5 % account for 90% of all these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down" economics claiming that if a corporation is successful that everyone from the CEO to the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job securuty which is ridiculous". How much of this "trickle down" ever get to the unemployed and minorites in our county? None, and that's the tragedy of these stock market highs."

"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election when we take control of the congress. We will return to the 60% to 80% tax rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all currrent lower Federal Income Tax taxpayers off the roles and increase government income substantially. We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."

When asked how new these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrents in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as Americans"

A Bush spoksman responded to this interview by saying "Mrs. Pelosi has set a new standard for the spin business".


Comments: False. Astute readers will recognize the above as a caricature of Nancy Pelosi's left-of-center views, not her actual words. None of the statements attributed to her -- some of which are so nonsensical they stretch credulity even for a politician -- are to be found in the public record.

The earliest version of the text, dated October 22, 2006 (just before the national election which ultimately led to Pelosi being named Speaker of the House), credits New York Times reporters Walt Bogdanich and Gretchen Morgenson for the supposed "interview." However, no such article was written by them, nor published in the Times.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/nancy_pelosi.htm

crazierthanever
10-25-2007, 12:36 PM
Subject: Fw: You talk about frightening!!!


THERE GOES OUR RETIREMENT!!

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?.


Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock
market pfits (including Retirement fund, 401Ks and Mutual Funds! Alas, it
is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed
Minorities!

Boy, are we in trouble... This woman is frightening. Take special note
of the last paragraph. Is she really this whacked out?


Nancy Pelosi condemned the new record highs of the stock market
as "just another example of Bush policies helping the rich get richer".
"First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new
record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are
getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class". She
went on to say "Despite the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq our
economy is still strong and government tax revenues are at all time highs.
What this really means is that business is exploiting the war effort and
working Americans, just to put money in their own pockets".


When questioned about recent stock market highs she responded
"Only the rich benefit from these rec ord highs. Working Americans, welfare
recipients, the unemployed and minorities are not sharing in these obscene
record highs". There is no question these windfall profits and income
created by the Bush administration need to be taxed at 100% rate and those
dollars redistributed to the poor and working class". Profits from the
stock market do not reward the hard work of our working class who, by their
hard work, are responsible for generating these corporate profits that
create stock market profits for the rich. We in congress will need to
address this issue to either tax these profits or to control the stock
market to prevent this unearned income t o flow to the rich."


When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have
investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401Ks, and the stock market
she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5% account for 90% of all
these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down" economics
claiming that if a corporation is successful that everyone from the CEO to
the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job security which is
ridiculous". "How much of this 'trickle down' ever gets to the unemployed
and minorities in our county? None, and that's the tragedy of these stock
market highs."


"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election
when we take control of the congress. We will return to the 60% to 80% tax rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all current
lower income tax payers off the rolls and increase government income
substantially." We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest. When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied."We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and
minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants
in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed
minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to
guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as
'Americans'."


Comment: Where I come from, this is called Socialism!

This was sent to me in an email this morning....

I tried to Snopes this, but couldn't locate it. My comments stand,
regardless.

Let us understand that Democrats are no longer Democrats, but are
Socialists, Communists, Marxists. If you claim to be and vote for a
Democrat, you are spitting in the face of every Cold War veteran, Korean War
veteran, Vietnam War veteran, all of whom fought, shed blood or died to
prevent the very acts the Neo-Democrats are perpetrating.

Thank you colleges and universities. Thank you high schools and elementary
schools. Thank you NEA. Thank you all citizens with cranial rectitus or a
bad case of stupid.


I'm glad you're one of the rich, Wabby.

Do you not understand the general idea here whether said by Speaker Pelosi or not? The gap between the uber-rich and the rest of us is growing at an incredible rate. The rich are getting mega-richer and the rest of us are getting poorer all the time.

Gimme a fuckin' break with the lecture about voting for Democrats being an insult to veterans. You don't have a leg to stand on and we both know it. Cut the crap and listen for a change.

toxic
10-25-2007, 01:16 PM
...
Let us understand that Democrats are no longer Democrats, but are
Socialists, Communists, Marxists. If you claim to be and vote for a
Democrat, you are spitting in the face of every Cold War veteran, Korean War
veteran, Vietnam War veteran, all of whom fought, shed blood or died to
prevent the very acts the Neo-Democrats are perpetrating.

Thank you colleges and universities. Thank you high schools and elementary
schools. Thank you NEA. Thank you all citizens with cranial rectitus or a
bad case of stupid.

I must 2nd Crazierthanever's comments.

Bush and McCain made Communist Vietnam and Communist China our most favored nations for Trade.

Bush has grown the Federal Government more than any other modern President.

Bush has run up the National Debt and lost 50% of the value of the US dollar.

Bush has tried to start an Empire, but is too fucking stupid to pull it off.

Bush has sent millions of American jobs offshore, as Sec of Labor (and Ky Sen McConnell's wife) Taiwan immigrant Elain Chow has doctored the data from the Dept of Labor into a stream of lies.

BTW, I was not protecting Democracy in Vietnam, I was protecting French Michlin Tire Rubber Tree Plantations from communism.

Lone Laugher
10-25-2007, 03:08 PM
Wabby....please keep posting! I was having a ho-hum day until I read this post.

How many times can one person be fooled by such e-mails? You truly are an idiot.

By the way, I just won $243,000 in the Florida Lottery but I am unable to collect the prize myself because my wife works for the lottery commission. If you send me an $8,000 cashier's check, I'll send you the winning ticket and you can make the collection yourself! It is a deal you can't pass up! Act now!

Cookie Parker
10-25-2007, 03:16 PM
Wabby....please keep posting! I was having a ho-hum day until I read this post.

How many times can one person be fooled by such e-mails? You truly are an idiot.

By the way, I just won $243,000 in the Florida Lottery but I am unable to collect the prize myself because my wife works for the lottery commission. If you send me an $8,000 cashier's check, I'll send you the winning ticket and you can make the collection yourself! It is a deal you can't pass up! Act now!

LOL!!!!

Oh, and my parents are stuck in a prison in Venezuela and the president says I can get them out but I have to pay the mercenaries upfront first...Wabash, please send me $4,576,459.17 so I can free my parents.

If that's too much, a cashier's check for $5,000 will help....

ROFLMAO!!!

Wabash
10-25-2007, 03:34 PM
Urban Legends Ads
Nancy Pelosi Quotes

Hoax Urban Legends

Urban Myths

Urban Folklore

Myths Legends
Circulating via email, purported statements by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi condemning stock market profit-taking and advocating redistribution of wealth via a 100% windfall tax.


Description: Email hoax / Satire
Circulating since: Oct. 2006Status: False


Email example contributed by R. Foley, 5 Nov. 2006:

Subject: Nancy Pelosi
Published: October 22, 2006

Nancy Pelosi condemed the new record highs of the stock market as "just another example of Bush policies helping the rich get richer".

"First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class".

She went on to say "Despite the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq our economy is still strong and government tax revenues are at all time highs. What this really means is that business is exploiting the war effort and working Americans just to put money in their own pockets".

When questioned about recent stock market highs she r esponded "Only the rich benefit from these record highs. Working Americans, welfare recipients, the unemployed and minorities are not sharing in these obscene record highs".

"There is no question these windfall profits and income created by the Bush administration need to be taxed at 100% rate and those dollars redistributed to the poor and working class".

"Profits from the stock market do not reward the hard work of our working class who, buy their hard work, are responsible for generating these corporate profits that create stock market profits for the rich. We in congress will need to address this issue to either tax these profits or to control the stock market to prevent this unearned income to flow to the rich".

When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401K's, and the stock market she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5 % account for 90% of all these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down" economics claiming that if a corporation is successful that everyone from the CEO to the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job securuty which is ridiculous". How much of this "trickle down" ever get to the unemployed and minorites in our county? None, and that's the tragedy of these stock market highs."

"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election when we take control of the congress. We will return to the 60% to 80% tax rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all currrent lower Federal Income Tax taxpayers off the roles and increase government income substantially. We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."

When asked how new these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrents in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as Americans"

A Bush spoksman responded to this interview by saying "Mrs. Pelosi has set a new standard for the spin business".


Comments: False. Astute readers will recognize the above as a caricature of Nancy Pelosi's left-of-center views, not her actual words. None of the statements attributed to her -- some of which are so nonsensical they stretch credulity even for a politician -- are to be found in the public record.

The earliest version of the text, dated October 22, 2006 (just before the national election which ultimately led to Pelosi being named Speaker of the House), credits New York Times reporters Walt Bogdanich and Gretchen Morgenson for the supposed "interview." However, no such article was written by them, nor published in the Times.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/nancy_pelosi.htm

Thanks Sag...I can only go by what I was sent...including the Snopes search!
I'm glad you're one of the rich, Wabby.

Do you not understand the general idea here whether said by Speaker Pelosi or not? The gap between the uber-rich and the rest of us is growing at an incredible rate. The rich are getting mega-richer and the rest of us are getting poorer all the time.

Gimme a fuckin' break with the lecture about voting for Democrats being an insult to veterans. You don't have a leg to stand on and we both know it. Cut the crap and listen for a change.

I'm not one of the rich, but I'm also not a Socialist/Communist and that's what the foregoing rhetoric is all about...no matter who says it!

I must 2nd Crazierthanever's comments.

Bush and McCain made Communist Vietnam and Communist China our most favored nations for Trade.

Bush has grown the Federal Government more than any other modern President.

Bush has run up the National Debt and lost 50% of the value of the US dollar.

Bush has tried to start an Empire, but is too fucking stupid to pull it off.

Bush has sent millions of American jobs offshore, as Sec of Labor (and Ky Sen McConnell's wife) Taiwan immigrant Elain Chow has doctored the data from the Dept of Labor into a stream of lies.

BTW, I was not protecting Democracy in Vietnam, I was protecting French Michlin Tire Rubber Tree Plantations from communism.

Some of those facts are true....but sending jobs overseas started with Clinton and NAFTA!!

Wabby....please keep posting! I was having a ho-hum day until I read this post.

How many times can one person be fooled by such e-mails? You truly are an idiot.

By the way, I just won $243,000 in the Florida Lottery but I am unable to collect the prize myself because my wife works for the lottery commission. If you send me an $8,000 cashier's check, I'll send you the winning ticket and you can make the collection yourself! It is a deal you can't pass up! Act now!

Hey, a trusted friend sent it to me and said he did a Snopes search.....even if the speaker is not the one saying it...plenty of looney tune liberal democraps are saying it!

LOL!!!!

Oh, and my parents are stuck in a prison in Venezuela and the president says I can get them out but I have to pay the mercenaries upfront first...Wabash, please send me $4,576,459.17 so I can free my parents.

If that's too much, a cashier's check for $5,000 will help....

ROFLMAO!!!

Ya...like you are the epitome of intelligence! Ba-Waaaaaaa!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Saguaro
10-25-2007, 03:40 PM
You are welcome Wabash

Cookie Parker
10-25-2007, 07:18 PM
Not the epitome, Wabash...just smarter than all republicans...

:roar:Q

Saguaro
10-25-2007, 07:21 PM
Ok everyone, let it go ,Wabash made a msitake haven't any of you made a mistake ?

Cookie Parker
10-25-2007, 07:27 PM
Yeah...about 4,792 tonite...

Sorry Wabash...you know I still think you the cutest biker around, right?

patriotsblade
10-25-2007, 07:53 PM
Ok everyone, let it go ,Wabash made a msitake haven't any of you made a mistake ?

Yep, I make mistakes, but this is at least his third time of posting this sort of thing. Chinacat debunked one of his with some simple research and I took care of another one. I'd say after doing this a third time a little bit of ribbing is in order.

Wabby, you got to confirm your info man. Don't rely on someone else to do it for you. Dan Rather learned this the hard way.

If you can't link your information back to several CREDIBLE sources you have to be a bit suspicious.

Kurtz
10-25-2007, 08:03 PM
The War Room For unmoderated political discussion :whistle

Saguaro
10-25-2007, 08:24 PM
I wasn't moderating Kurtz, I was voicing my opinion

AYFR
10-25-2007, 08:32 PM
I thought the title said Pelosi the MORMON LOLOLOLOLOL

Wabash
10-25-2007, 09:56 PM
Not the epitome, Wabash...just smarter than all republicans...

:roar:Q

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Yeah...about 4,792 tonite...

Sorry Wabash...you know I still think you the cutest biker around, right?

Ok...I'll give ya a pass for saying things I like to hear!:yep:wave

Yep, I make mistakes, but this is at least his third time of posting this sort of thing. Chinacat debunked one of his with some simple research and I took care of another one. I'd say after doing this a third time a little bit of ribbing is in order.

Wabby, you got to confirm your info man. Don't rely on someone else to do it for you. Dan Rather learned this the hard way.

If you can't link your information back to several CREDIBLE sources you have to be a bit suspicious.

Ok....blade, I know...I'm striving to do better. I have to not be so quick on the trigger and check to see if I'm loaded first!:lol

Thanks for the advice.......

I thought the title said Pelosi the MORMON LOLOLOLOLOL

Wouldn't that be a hoot...she'd have to back Romney!:hotdog

Yellowdogtexan
10-25-2007, 11:49 PM
This is up there with citing a Newsweek article that you did not read or the e-mail about Jane Fonda. If you lived in the real world, you would not be vulnerable to such hoaxs.