Coming soon to Calif. Norways deviate ideas on children

[Ringo]

Isn't this where Patriotsblade hangs out? Now this is normal children behavior as my Doctors practice at age 6, was very large! BUT we did this out of the way of the mothers peering eyes! I guess that the sicko's thought hey it would be fun to WATCH these little kids, who don't have a clue, and maybe invite a few NAMBLA people and other dignataries of todays Liberal World!

Mothers watch your schools closely, they are leaving ther education system and leaning more towards indoctrination centers for deviancy! CHILD ABUSE is what this is, and I suspect I will hear innocent behavior, BUT not in a GROUP in SCHOOL, in front of sicko Adults!:nerd:sheep:drevil

http://lp.aftenposten.no/ego/mostread/http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2050710.ece

[Oceanbreeze]

Land of the perverts. I hope they don't visit the US.



:nono "Children, she said, should be able "to look at each other and examine each other's bodies. They can play doctor, play mother and father, dance naked and masturbate." :nono




:censored "But their sexuality must also be socialized, so they are not, for example, allowed to masturbate while sitting and eating. Nor can they be allowed to pressure other children into doing things they don't want to." :censored.

[crazierthanever]

I can just picture your google search, ringo. :cool:seeyou:max:teehee

[Kurtz]

:coffee

[patriotsblade]

Hey Ringo, you do realize that this is a very fringe group of people here that do not represent the majority of Norwegian society. Of course you do.

Oceanbreeze, I actually once beleived you had more intelligence and class than to paint an entire group of people with one wide brush. I am disappointed that I was mistaken.

[The Q]

I used to be offended that Ringo was so bigoted toward Muslims. Now, I am strangely comforted to know that his prejudice knows no bounds! ALL FOREIGNERS ARE PERVERTS, RIGHT RINGO!?

Dude, Ringo, you are the most sexually repressed person I have ever met. Do you realize how many of your posts refer to sexual perversion and your fear of it taking over society?

ADQ

[issac the dragon]

This is just an idea that is being floated out there. If the Norwegians don't like it, they will make their feelings known.

I have the feeling that any child in Ringo's care who touched a crotch would be beaten while having Ringo scream at them that they were a sick preverted, disgusting SOB. And that would be sick and perverted.

[patriotsblade]

No child (or pet) of mine would be allowed anywhere near :ringo. He needs to come with some sort of warning sign.

[Sweet Tart]

FFS Ringo :para

[April15]

This idea was tried many years ago in California. It produced such things as the republican party. Knowing that it can't be all bad? Can it? Oh and don't touch that you perv!

[crazierthanever]

This is just an idea that is being floated out there. If the Norwegians don't like it, they will make their feelings known.

I have the feeling that any child in Ringo's care who touched a crotch would be beaten while having Ringo scream at them that they were a sick preverted, disgusting SOB. And that would be sick and perverted.

When you imagined Ringo's screaming at the kid you left out his favorite 'dirty word', 'liberal'. I think you meant he'd say 'you are a sick, perverted, disgusting liberal SOB'.

[crazierthanever]

I used to be offended that Ringo was so bigoted toward Muslims. Now, I am strangely comforted to know that his prejudice knows no bounds! ALL FOREIGNERS ARE PERVERTS, RIGHT RINGO!?

Dude, Ringo, you are the most sexually repressed person I have ever met. Do you realize how many of your posts refer to sexual perversion and your fear of it taking over society?

ADQ

Ringo = A Freudian psychiatrist's wet dream:aww

[patriotsblade]

knows no bounds! ALL FOREIGNERS ARE PERVERTS, RIGHT RINGO!?

Dude, Ringo, you are the most sexually repressed person I have ever met. Do you realize how many of your posts refer to sexual perversion and your fear of it taking over society?

ADQ

Repressed, I don't think so. Look at his signature. There's the mark of a member of the moral majority for ya.

[Ringo]

I can just picture your google search, ringo. :cool:seeyou:max:teehee

You mean as opposed to your moaning groaning Chat Line rendevous? I find myself in a very happy, healthy, VERY HEALTHY, Male-Female relationship, don't know about you though? You Liberals that come to ATTACK the messenger, could very well have some DIRTY closets....hmmmm crazy woman?:mw:mw:cheeky

[Ringo]

I used to be offended that Ringo was so bigoted toward Muslims. Now, I am strangely comforted to know that his prejudice knows no bounds! ALL FOREIGNERS ARE PERVERTS, RIGHT RINGO!?

Dude, Ringo, you are the most sexually repressed person I have ever met. Do you realize how many of your posts refer to sexual perversion and your fear of it taking over society?

ADQ

You are falsely as normal accusing me of BIGOTRY towards Muslims and that is BS, as my dislike is the Radical Islam factor, that preach's HATE in the world and KILLS to get their point across!

Pointing out the perversions in our Society does not lend towards sexual repression, Dr Ruth, it merely means I am sick of KIDS being exploited by adults for THEIR PERVERSIONS!

I live a very healthy & normal sex life with a very normal ALL woman, and you do not know a damn thing about my personal life, so stay the hell out of it! Will you be adult enough to handle the criticism, if its a real problem PM me we will discuss the situation!

I will reread my Post, but I don't remember talking about the whole Nation?

[Oceanbreeze]

Am I sexually repress because I support banning NAMBLA?????

[Ringo]

Hey Ringo, you do realize that this is a very fringe group of people here that do not represent the majority of Norwegian society. Of course you do.

Oceanbreeze, I actually once beleived you had more intelligence and class than to paint an entire group of people with one wide brush. I am disappointed that I was mistaken.

I went back and looked and NOTHING indicated I was condemning the WHOLE NATION!! I was giving you a little BS like you do me all the time, so get over your liberalism for a minute, and go after the story!

Schools are a fringe group? Let me know if this is isolated or if anything is being done to control the PERVERTED Board of Ed.!

[Oceanbreeze]

Hey Ringo, you do realize that this is a very fringe group of people here that do not represent the majority of Norwegian society. Of course you do.

Oceanbreeze, I actually once beleived you had more intelligence and class than to paint an entire group of people with one wide brush. I am disappointed that I was mistaken.

I'm sorry, but the Dutch or just a little bit too "care free" for me, almost make the US liberals look like conservatives. Yes, I have known MANY Dutch people.

[patriotsblade]

I'm sorry, but the Dutch or just a little bit too "care free" for me, almost make the US liberals look like conservatives. Yes, I have known MANY Dutch people.

"The Dutch"? Get an education already.

[crazierthanever]

patriotsblade, did you move and not tell anyone? Ringo will have a field day with 'the Dutch'. His head might explode. :hotdog

[crazierthanever]

You mean as opposed to your moaning groaning Chat Line rendevous? I find myself in a very happy, healthy, VERY HEALTHY, Male-Female relationship, don't know about you though? You Liberals that come to ATTACK the messenger, could very well have some DIRTY closets....hmmmm crazy woman?:mw:mw:cheeky

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

[The Q]

What's a "normal" sex life? :think

ADQ

[patriotsblade]

I'm sorry, but the Dutch or just a little bit too "care free" for me, almost make the US liberals look like conservatives. Yes, I have known MANY Dutch people.

Hey Oceanbreeze.

Have a look at this map.


http://downloads.raileurope.com/map_of_europe/europe.html

Then see if you can decide where the Norwegian people live vs. where the Dutch people live.
Then see if you can figure out which nations flag is in your avatar.

Did you and W. have the same geography teacher?

[April15]

What's a "normal" sex life? :think

ADQThe normal sex life is that which you were restricted to by religion, parental upbringing, or how much the nuns taught you in the cloak room!

[toxic]

...
Have a look at this map....
Then see if you can decide where the Norwegian people live vs. where the Dutch people live.
Then see if you can figure out which nations flag is in your avatar.
...

Well, the Dutch are a little tricky if you aren't right there. Usually the first thing people say are the Dutch are in Holland and that's no immediate help.

[Oceanbreeze]

Hey Oceanbreeze.

Have a look at this map.


http://downloads.raileurope.com/map_of_europe/europe.html

Then see if you can decide where the Norwegian people live vs. where the Dutch people live.
Then see if you can figure out which nations flag is in your avatar.

Did you and W. have the same geography teacher?

Thank you, nice map.
Good Lord, I know Norway and Sweden are neighbors, I've been there, shoot me. I made a mistake.

"Ja, vi elsker": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja,_vi_elsker_dette_landet

[patriotsblade]

Thank you, nice map.
Good Lord, I know Norway and Sweden are neighbors, I've been there, shoot me. I made a mistake.

"Ja, vi elsker": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ja,_vi_elsker_dette_landet

It's not your geographical ignorance that I really take offense to Oceanbreeze, it's the other kind of ignorance. The kind that would have you refer to my second country, the homeland of my wife, as "land of the perverts". You have demonstrated your lack of knowledge in anything related to this country yet have the audacity to make such an asinine, ignorant, and downright bigoted statement.

:pblade

[Ringo]

What's a "normal" sex life? :think

ADQ

12 times a night from 36 different positions while neither missing Monday Night Football or Grays Anatomy!!:rofl:clap:hump:love

[The Q]

:rofl2
:rofl2
:rofl2

ADQ

[Ringo]

It's not your geographical ignorance that I really take offense to Oceanbreeze, it's the other kind of ignorance. The kind that would have you refer to my second country, the homeland of my wife, as "land of the perverts". You have demonstrated your lack of knowledge in anything related to this country yet have the audacity to make such an asinine, ignorant, and downright bigoted statement.

:pblade

So righteous when your offended, BUT you trash Christian America, Conservative America, in every other post you put up! Again SPINNER, is this isolated to ONE school, or will this be the norm?

[patriotsblade]

12 times a night from 36 different positions while neither missing Monday Night Football or Grays Anatomy!!:rofl:clap:hump:love

That was funny Ringo, and probably the most normal and coherent thing I've ever seen you write.

:confused:faint

[patriotsblade]

So righteous when your offended, BUT you trash Christian America, Conservative America, in every other post you put up! Again SPINNER, is this isolated to ONE school, or will this be the norm?


Ringo, go back, read the entire article and try really, really hard on comprehension.

[toxic]

It's not your geographical ignorance that I really take offense to Oceanbreeze, it's the other kind of ignorance. The kind that would have you refer to my second country, the homeland of my wife, as "land of the perverts". You have demonstrated your lack of knowledge in anything related to this country yet have the audacity to make such an asinine, ignorant, and downright bigoted statement.

:pblade

Geez, ease up. First, she was thinking of the Dutch and Second, nobody knew your wife was Norwegion.

I think different cultures divy up Liberal and Conservative issues differently than our culture, which can be confusing.

For example, I flipped on the TV in Berlin and saw a nude couple (~25-30 years age) in bed with a nude ~4 year old girl. This situation wasn't overtly sexual (other than the nudity) and shouldn't be alarming in a loving family context. In our own family setting we would know no bad intent or actions occurred. I'm sure nudist around the world would think nothing of this.

But, we Americans are unaccustom to seeing anything like this on TV and even I was a bit suspicious. ... So, things can be identified as "perverse", as a spontanious reaction, rather than a thought out logical analysis. I don't think anyone intended any particular bad reflection on any of those sicko European or Scandinavian countries. :)

BTW, Proxima (Norway) and ASK (Finland) used to be a customers, before they were bought by InFocus (Washington state). Do they still maintain a presence up there? Like is it the local preferred video projector product?

[Oceanbreeze]

Ok..."land of perverts" was harsh, it's just the pre-school specialists, psychologists, and family therapists. It's nice to see The Progess party is against it with other politicians as well.


Debate flies over 'sex play' in kindergartens[/B]A specialist in early childhood education in Oslo is giving new meaning to the term "sexual games," and stirring widespread debate.
"The only thing that is absolutely certain is that children, sooner or later, will play sexual games and examine each other..." claims pre-school specialist Pia Friis.

PHOTO: TOR RICHARDSEN/SCANPIX


Family therapist Jesper Juul, who writes a popular column in Aftenposten's weekly magazine, agrees that children's sexuality shouldn't be stifled.

PHOTO: AFTENPOSTEN


Norwegians woke up Tuesday morning to news that a respected Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, thinks children should be allowed to openly express their own sexuality, not least through sex play and games in the local day care centers known as barnehager, or kindergartens.

The vast majority of Norwegians send their children from the age of one to the kindergartens, where they spend their days until they begin school at age six.

Pia Friis, leader of the popular Bjerkealleen Barnehage in Oslo and a well-known pre-school educator, told newspaper Dagbladet on Tuesday that children should be allowed to express their own sexuality at day care centers. She doesn't want to stifle what comes naturally.

Children, she said, should be able "to look at each other and examine each other's bodies. They can play doctor, play mother and father, dance naked and masturbate.

"But their sexuality must also be socialized, so they are not, for example, allowed to masturbate while sitting and eating. Nor can they be allowed to pressure other children into doing things they don't want to."

Friis said there's a lot of uncertainty around how day care center employees should handle children's sexuality.

"The only thing that is absolutely certain is that children, sooner or later, will play sexual games and examine each other at the kindergarten," she told Dagbladet. "When the personnel are uncertain, that passes on to the children, and it can be negative."

The issue is the topic of an article in the latest edition of the magazine published by Norway's industry association for privately owned kindergartens, PBL-nytt, and Friis thinks it's important. So do child psychologist Thore Langfeldt and family therapist Jesper Juul.

"Children must learn about sexuality, otherwise things can go very wrong," said Langfeldt. "Children can't object to something they don't know about, and children can more easily and readily report assaults if they already are aware of their own sexuality."

Juul conceded that "many are disturbed by children's sexuality, but I think it's important to put it on the agenda. That, in fact, is what we're doing."

While Norwegians are known for being liberal and tolerant, the issue already has sparked heated debate on radio programs and in online opinion forums. And some politicians are outraged, not least those on the conservative side.


"I thought at first that this was a joke," said Karin Ståhl Woldseth, a spokesman on family issues for the Progress Party. "Sexual games don't belong in a kindergarten," she declared. "Children don't need more exposure to this in kindergartens. We think it will damage their health."

[Trueblue]

While Norwegians are known for being liberal and tolerant, the issue already has sparked heated debate on radio programs and in online opinion forums. And some politicians are outraged, not least those on the conservative side.

"I thought at first that this was a joke," said Karin Ståhl Woldseth, a spokesman on family issues for the Progress Party.

"Sexual games don't belong in a kindergarten," she declared. "Children don't need more exposure to this in kindergartens. We think it will damage their health."

Ok..."land of perverts" was harsh, it's just the pre-school specialists, psychologists, and family therapists.

Some of them. Obviously not all of them. Geez.

[Ringo]

Some of them. Obviously not all of them. Geez.

Thats the way it starts here TB! Some of them and soon ALL of us whether we want it or not! Personaly when or if I have kids when married, I want them to keep their clothes on in school, I want them to study things that are fun and educational! I do not wantt hem coming home and telling me that they studied how to put a condom on a make believe penis, or that they are reading about Jimmy's TWO dads or Jane's two mothers, or hetro sexual issues, as that is not for the damn school to teach kids that age!! Agree?