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Wabash
10-16-2007, 12:39 PM
Students who have parental permission to be treated at King Middle School's health center would be able to get birth control prescriptions under a proposal that the Portland School Committee will consider Wednesday.

The proposal would build on the King Student Health Center's practice of providing condoms as part of its reproductive health program since it opened in 2000, said Lisa Belanger, a nurse practitioner who oversees the city's student health centers.

If the committee approves the King proposal, it would be the first middle school in Maine to make a full range of contraception available to some students in grades 6 to 8, said Nancy Birkhimer, director of teen health programs for the Maine Department of Health and Human Services. Most middle schoolers are ages 11-13.

Although students must have written parental permission to be treated at Portland's school-based health centers, state law allows them to seek confidential health care and to decide whether to inform their parents about the services they receive, Belanger said.

Proponents say a small number of King students are sexually active, but those who are need better access to birth control.

Of 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year, five students, or 4 percent, reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.

"This is a service that is totally needed," Rowe said. "It's about very few kids, but they are kids who don't have the same opportunities and access as other students."

The percentage of middle school students in Maine who reported having sexual intercourse dropped from 23 percent in 1997 to 13 percent in 2005, according to the Maine Youth Risk Behavior Survey.

"Thirteen percent is still more than one in 10 students," Birkhimer said.

The School Committee will meet at 7 p.m. in Room 250, Portland Arts and Technology High School, off Allen Avenue.

Robert O'Brien, who chairs the committee's policy subcommittee, said his panel has yet to discuss the proposal.

He declined to comment until after the matter has been aired.

The issue could stir controversy, as it has in the past.

"I'm personally fine with it, but I know some parents might not be," said Jennifer Southard, wife of City Councilor Edward Suslovic, who has two daughters at King. "I think information and access are good things. I would hope my children would come to me, but some students might not have that option."

The city's Division of Public Health, which made the birth- control proposal, operates seven health centers in Portland Public Schools in an effort to increase access to physical, dental and mental health care.

They are located at Portland High School, Deering High School, Casco Bay High School, King Middle School, West School special education program, and two elementary schools -- Reiche Community School and East End Community School.

The first centers opened in the high schools more than a decade ago, Belanger said.

There are 27 school-based health centers in Maine, 20 of which are funded and overseen by the state, including those in Portland, Birkhimer said.

There are more than 1,700 school-connected health centers in the United States.

One in four provides birth control ranging from condoms to prescription contraception, said Divya Mohan, spokeswoman for the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care.

Last year, Portland's program cost about $500,000 to operate, including state and foundation grants, MaineCare/Medicaid and private health insurance reimbursements, and in-kind contributions of space and services provided by the city, Belanger said.

Of 2,877 students eligible to attend Portland's seven health centers last year, 1,261, or 44 percent, were enrolled. The center at King, which has 510 students, enrolled 134 students and tallied 266 visits last year, Belanger said.

The health centers at Portland High, Deering High, Casco Bay High and West School have provided prescription contraception as part of overall primary health care since 2003, Belanger said.

The King Student Health Center has provided condoms since it opened in 2000, along with counseling and testing for pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, she said.

Contraception would be prescribed after a physical examination by a physician or nurse practitioner, Belanger said.

Types of prescription birth control available through the health centers include contraceptive pills, patches or injections, as well as the morning-after pill. Diaphragms and IUDs are not usually prescribed, she said.

Belanger said health center workers encourage students to tell their parents about their health center experiences, but by law they cannot compel students to do so or inform parents without the student's consent.

King is the only one of Portland's three middle schools with a health center, primarily because it has more students who get free or reduced-price lunch, Belanger said.

Moore and Lincoln middle schools don't have health centers, and their students are ineligible for treatment at the King Student Health Center.

Belanger said the top five reasons for visits to the health center last year were, in descending order: immunizations, physical examinations, sore throat, upper respiratory infection and asthma.

Nationally, the top five reproductive health services offered at school-based health centers were, in descending order: pregnancy testing, abstinence counseling, HIV/AIDS counseling, birth control counseling, and the diagnosis and treatment of sexually transmitted diseases, according to the national assembly.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=140910&ac=PHnws&pg=2

This is Totally Wrong!!!!

Kurtz
10-16-2007, 01:54 PM
http://www.forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=13152

:D

If I had Super powers I'd move your thread for ya, Wabby. :lmao

Oceanbreeze
10-16-2007, 01:54 PM
http://forums.thepoliticalasylum.com/showthread.php?t=13152

toxic
10-16-2007, 01:57 PM
...
This is Totally Wrong!!!!

I'm surprised you haven't got more play on this.

Well, they could be getting into trouble at that age and the parents have the option to make a decision based on their expectations of their own child. I don't see the big issue.

Are you concerned that tax dollars would fund the pills?

Where I lived Elementary School went to the 6th grade ~12 years old.

They we had Junior High School for 7th to 9th grade ~13-15. I forget exactly which grades I was in during certain experiences, but I'd think at 13 parents would want to wise up to kids experimenting.

So when would you start protecting a daughter of yours?

Oceanbreeze
10-16-2007, 02:09 PM
I'm surprised you haven't got more play on this.

Well, they could be getting into trouble at that age and the parents have the option to make a decision based on their expectations of their own child. I don't see the big issue.

Are you concerned that tax dollars would fund the pills?

Where I lived Elementary School went to the 6th grade ~12 years old.

They we had Junior High School for 7th to 9th grade ~13-15. I forget exactly which grades I was in during certain experiences, but I'd think at 13 parents would want to wise up to kids experimenting.

So when would you start protecting a daughter of yours?

I expected this from you, you are a liberal to the T. I surmise you don't have any kids or grandkids.

Sweet Tart
10-16-2007, 02:18 PM
IF schools are going to pass out birth control, which I don't think is a bad thing, I'd prefer they pass out condoms so that not only pregnancy is prevented.

Kurtz
10-16-2007, 02:34 PM
IF schools are going to pass out birth control, which I don't think is a bad thing, I'd prefer they pass out condoms so that not only pregnancy is prevented.

Absolutely!!!

toxic
10-16-2007, 04:42 PM
I expected this from you, you are a liberal to the T. I surmise you don't have any kids or grandkids.

You'll have to help me. What do you and Wasbash think.

Do you think kids abstain till 16, 17, 18, 19, marriage????

Did you and your friends abstain that long???

My first recollection of a naked girl was about 4 years old. Her (Navy) mom wanted me to look at her, as she said she should not be ashamed of her body. I was interested, but embarrassed in front of the adult woman. I think she wanted me to show her daughter mine???

I forget when I first had sex, but know it was before I was 16, as I remember the walk home. Between 13-15, I recall lots of girls who seemed to want some, but it never seemed to quite materialize.

Today, it seems like oral is much prefered by the youth, but I haven't ever felt a mouth that could compare to a woman's muffin for sensation.

And finally, No guys use condoms unless they are P-Whiped.

crazierthanever
10-16-2007, 04:46 PM
IF schools are going to pass out birth control, which I don't think is a bad thing, I'd prefer they pass out condoms so that not only pregnancy is prevented.


:yeah

crazierthanever
10-16-2007, 04:48 PM
And finally, No guys use condoms unless they are P-Whiped.

Then a lotta girls need to do the whippin cause they might end up dead otherwise.

Kurtz
10-16-2007, 04:56 PM
Smart boys wear condoms.
I bought them for my kid when I thought he was gonna start
dippin' his stick regardless that I told him he 'wasn't allowed to.'

Texas has a state law that requires the parents of the pregnant
"couple" to support the 'baby." I didn't want that either.

Course, I told him if he ever caused me to
have to do that, I'd fuckin' kill him too. :lol

crazierthanever
10-16-2007, 05:07 PM
Smart boys wear condoms.
I bought them for my kid when I thought he was gonna start
dippin' his stick regardless that I told him he 'wasn't allowed to.'

Texas has a state law that requires the parents of the pregnant
"couple" to support the 'baby." I didn't want that either.

Course, I told him if he ever caused me to
have to do that, I'd fuckin' kill him too. :lol

killing the baby daddy? interesting form of birth control. i kinda like it. my shift key is stuck..

Kurtz
10-16-2007, 05:11 PM
killing the baby daddy? interesting form of birth control. i kinda like it. my shift key is stuck..

Need somethin' for that? :max

Oceanbreeze
10-16-2007, 05:30 PM
You'll have to help me. What do you and Wasbash think.

Do you think kids abstain till 16, 17, 18, 19, marriage????

Did you and your friends abstain that long???

My first recollection of a naked girl was about 4 years old. Her (Navy) mom wanted me to look at her, as she said she should not be ashamed of her body. I was interested, but embarrassed in front of the adult woman. I think she wanted me to show her daughter mine???

I forget when I first had sex, but know it was before I was 16, as I remember the walk home. Between 13-15, I recall lots of girls who seemed to want some, but it never seemed to quite materialize.

Today, it seems like oral is much prefered by the youth, but I haven't ever felt a mouth that could compare to a woman's muffin for sensation.

And finally, No guys use condoms unless they are P-Whiped.

I see a woman has never taken the time to P-Whip, your lost. :lmao

I abstained until I was over 17 years old. It's not as though I climbed Mt. Everest, but the first climber sure did. :lmao

cassandra
10-16-2007, 09:47 PM
Did you and your friends abstain that long???

And finally, No guys use condoms unless they are P-Whiped.

I was 17 and in a committed relationship. Didn't seem hard to hold out and was worth not having the risk of someone like yourself thinking condoms were bad. :roll

bluedog
10-16-2007, 10:09 PM
What gives anyone the right to "administer" drugs....be it as much as an aspirin, without first informing the parents for the justification thereof, regardless of how many "permission" waivers have been signed in the past, as everyones health is not in a state of being static. What happens when the child "lies", and perhaps is being "abused" behind the scenes and maybe "threatened", or worse. There is no justification to empower the state with such a "privileged" blanket right of control. There are just to may "variables" of which the legal guardian of any under-aged individual should be notified...period. As always the "village" knows best just how to raise someone to conform to an "indoctrinated" status. BD

Saguaro
10-16-2007, 10:15 PM
Students who have parental permission to be treated at King Middle School's health center would be able to get birth control prescriptions under a proposal that the Portland School Committee will consider Wednesday.

The proposal would build on the King Student Health Center's practice of providing condoms as part of its reproductive health program since it opened in 2000, said Lisa Belanger, a nurse practitioner who oversees the city's student health centers.

If the committee approves the King proposal, it would be the first middle school in Maine to make a full range of contraception available to some students in grades 6 to 8, said Nancy Birkhimer, director of teen health programs for the Maine Department of Health and Human Services. Most middle schoolers are ages 11-13.

Although students must have written parental permission to be treated at Portland's school-based health centers, state law allows them to seek confidential health care and to decide whether to inform their parents about the services they receive, Belanger said.

Proponents say a small number of King students are sexually active, but those who are need better access to birth control.

Of 134 students who visited King's health center during the 2006-07 school year, five students, or 4 percent, reported having sexual intercourse, said Amanda Rowe, lead nurse in Portland's school health centers.

"This is a service that is totally needed," Rowe said. "It's about very few kids, but they are kids who don't have the same opportunities and access as other students."

The percentage of middle school students in Maine who reported having sexual intercourse dropped from 23 percent in 1997 to 13 percent in 2005, according to the Maine Youth Risk Behavior Survey.

"Thirteen percent is still more than one in 10 students," Birkhimer said.

The School Committee will meet at 7 p.m. in Room 250, Portland Arts and Technology High School, off Allen Avenue.

Robert O'Brien, who chairs the committee's policy subcommittee, said his panel has yet to discuss the proposal.

He declined to comment until after the matter has been aired.

The issue could stir controversy, as it has in the past.

"I'm personally fine with it, but I know some parents might not be," said Jennifer Southard, wife of City Councilor Edward Suslovic, who has two daughters at King. "I think information and access are good things. I would hope my children would come to me, but some students might not have that option."

The city's Division of Public Health, which made the birth- control proposal, operates seven health centers in Portland Public Schools in an effort to increase access to physical, dental and mental health care.

They are located at Portland High School, Deering High School, Casco Bay High School, King Middle School, West School special education program, and two elementary schools -- Reiche Community School and East End Community School.

The first centers opened in the high schools more than a decade ago, Belanger said.

There are 27 school-based health centers in Maine, 20 of which are funded and overseen by the state, including those in Portland, Birkhimer said.

There are more than 1,700 school-connected health centers in the United States.

One in four provides birth control ranging from condoms to prescription contraception, said Divya Mohan, spokeswoman for the National Assembly on School-Based Health Care.

Last year, Portland's program cost about $500,000 to operate, including state and foundation grants, MaineCare/Medicaid and private health insurance reimbursements, and in-kind contributions of space and services provided by the city, Belanger said.

Of 2,877 students eligible to attend Portland's seven health centers last year, 1,261, or 44 percent, were enrolled. The center at King, which has 510 students, enrolled 134 students and tallied 266 visits last year, Belanger said.

The health centers at Portland High, Deering High, Casco Bay High and West School have provided prescription contraception as part of overall primary health care since 2003, Belanger said.

The King Student Health Center has provided condoms since it opened in 2000, along with counseling and testing for pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases, she said.

Contraception would be prescribed after a physical examination by a physician or nurse practitioner, Belanger said.

Types of prescription birth control available through the health centers include contraceptive pills, patches or injections, as well as the morning-after pill. Diaphragms and IUDs are not usually prescribed, she said.

Belanger said health center workers encourage students to tell their parents about their health center experiences, but by law they cannot compel students to do so or inform parents without the student's consent.

King is the only one of Portland's three middle schools with a health center, primarily because it has more students who get free or reduced-price lunch, Belanger said.

Moore and Lincoln middle schools don't have health centers, and their students are ineligible for treatment at the King Student Health Center.

Belanger said the top five reasons for visits to the health center last year were, in descending order: immunizations, physical examinations, sore throat, upper respiratory infection and asthma.

Nationally, the top five reproductive health services offered at school-based health centers were, in descending order: pregnancy testing, abstinence counseling, HIV/AIDS counseling, birth control counseling, and the diagnosis and treatment of sexually transmitted diseases, according to the national assembly.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=140910&ac=PHnws&pg=2

This is Totally Wrong!!!!

Did anyone read this part ?

toxic
10-17-2007, 07:50 AM
I see a woman has never taken the time to P-Whip, your lost. :lmao

I abstained until I was over 17 years old. It's not as though I climbed Mt. Everest, but the first climber sure did. :lmao

I was 17 and in a committed relationship. Didn't seem hard to hold out and was worth not having the risk of someone like yourself thinking condoms were bad. :roll

Okay, both of you gals waited, but you know lots of others didn't. In general, I'd say girls are not as driven as boys. They think they are, but have no idea.

So at what age would you start becoming concerned about your daughters? If you have sons, I'd knock 2 years off the age estimate.

Do you just give them medical services permission or are you more specific?

As for condoms, they just aren't for me. I have heard lots of gals say that it is useless to recommend one. I can assure you that women don't press guys to use one after they have made the mental commitment to have sex. So your daughters probably shouldn't count on the guy using protection unless they have a specific discussion and plan on that topic. I never had such a discussion or scheduled sex in my life.

Oceanbreeze
10-17-2007, 08:09 AM
Okay, both of you gals waited, but you know lots of others didn't. In general, I'd say girls are not as driven as boys. They think they are, but have no idea.

So at what age would you start becoming concerned about your daughters? If you have sons, I'd knock 2 years off the age estimate.

Do you just give them medical services permission or are you more specific?

As for condoms, they just aren't for me. I have heard lots of gals say that it is useless to recommend one. I can assure you that women don't press guys to use one after they have made the mental commitment to have sex. So your daughters probably shouldn't count on the guy using protection unless they have a specific discussion and plan on that topic. I never had such a discussion or scheduled sex in my life.

The majority of STD's are caused by NOT wearing protection, either oral or regular means. If anyone wanted to go bareback when I was single, they wouldn't have gotten "any".

Take a read; http://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/fact_sheets.htm