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Yellowdogtexan
10-15-2007, 07:27 PM
It is nice to see a bushie tell the truth for a change. The NIEs and other intelligence reports are all consistent with the fact that the US is not safer now due to the invasion of Iraq. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Counterterrorism_Dir._US_probably_not_safer_1015.h tmlThe director of the National Counterterrorism Center, the primary US organization responsible for analyzing terror threats, told NBC News that the nation is probably not "tactically" safer from the threat of terrorism following the invasion of Iraq.

Asked by reporter Richard Engel if the war in Iraq had created a "giant recruiting tool" for terrorists, Center head Scott Redd said that "in the short term, that is probably true. But the question is you've got to look at this, I believe, in the long term strategic view."

"Tactically, probably not," Redd said in response to a question about whether the US is generally safer after having invaded Iraq. "Strategically, we'll wait and see."

An investigation by Engel into the motives of accused terrorists in Iraq -- many of whom previously held ordinary jobs prior to the US invasion -- indicated that America's presence in the country was a motivating factor in inspiring attacks.

Interviewing prisoners at a police detention center in Baghdad, Engel found that "to a man, each one says that it's the American occupation of Iraq that has driven him to violence."

"An aggressor occupied my country, destroyed it and made millions refugees. It is an honor to fight this," said one detainee, a construction company owner who admittedly attacked US troops.

"The US says this is war is part of a global war on terrorism," said another man, an imprisoned engineer. "But people here say the war has increased fanaticism and brought terrorism to Iraq."

AYFR
10-15-2007, 09:09 PM
Yet the fact is there have been no more attacks.

Lone Laugher
10-15-2007, 09:51 PM
Yet the fact is there have been no more attacks.

OK...great comment Rev. I just tried to paste a list of all the terrorist attacks that have been recorded since September 11, 2001. The forum denied my post because it was too FUCKING long.

Here is a link to the list on Wikipedia. PLEASE open your eyes!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents#2000s

AYFR
10-16-2007, 05:57 AM
It is nice to see a bushie tell the truth for a change. The NIEs and other intelligence reports are all consistent with the fact that the US is not safer now due to the invasion of Iraq. http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Counterterrorism_Dir._US_probably_not_safer_1015.h tml

Yet the fact is there have been no more attacks.

OK...great comment Rev. I just tried to paste a list of all the terrorist attacks that have been recorded since September 11, 2001. The forum denied my post because it was too FUCKING long.

Here is a link to the list on Wikipedia. PLEASE open your eyes!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents#2000s
Ok try and focus a little. There have been no terrorist attacks on the US (the country we are talking about here) since 9/11 (see bold)


Please do try and keep up here.

Lone Laugher
10-16-2007, 06:25 AM
Ok try and focus a little. There have been no terrorist attacks on the US (the country we are talking about here) since 9/11 (see bold)


Please do try and keep up here.

Oh...forgive me if my "focus" extends beyond our shores to our soldiers abroad and our allies in the "war on terror". You have a severe case of myopia, Rev. Americans killed.....it's a terrorsit attack against America. BTW, Embassies and Consulates are considered US soil.


Here are a few:

10/15/03 A bomb is detonated by Palestinians against a US diplomatic convoy in the Gaza Strip, killing three Americans.

7/24/04 A Uzbekistan, a suicide bomber detonates explosives at the US embassy in Tashkent, killing two Uzbek security guards.

12/6/04 Suspected al Qaeda-linked group attacks U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing five local employees.

03/02/06 Bombing in Karachi, Pakistan kills four, including a U.S. diplomat.[


03/03/06 : Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine


There are more....you just can't see them!!!!

AYFR
10-16-2007, 06:42 AM
Oh...forgive me if my "focus" extends beyond our shores to our soldiers abroad and our allies in the "war on terror". You have a severe case of myopia, Rev. Americans killed.....it's a terrorsit attack against America. BTW, Embassies and Consulates are considered US soil.


Here are a few:

10/15/03 A bomb is detonated by Palestinians against a US diplomatic convoy in the Gaza Strip, killing three Americans.

7/24/04 A Uzbekistan, a suicide bomber detonates explosives at the US embassy in Tashkent, killing two Uzbek security guards.

12/6/04 Suspected al Qaeda-linked group attacks U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing five local employees.

03/02/06 Bombing in Karachi, Pakistan kills four, including a U.S. diplomat.[


03/03/06 : Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine


There are more....you just can't see them!!!!

No I see the attacks around us but my reply was to YDT comments about the safety of America.
And as for AMERICA we have not been attacked here since.

I never once discussed the safety of the world.

But if you want to discuss the world no they are not safer, they are about the same as before.

Ringo
10-16-2007, 06:47 AM
[QUOTE=Lone Laugher;147132]Oh...forgive me if my "focus" extends beyond our shores to our soldiers abroad and our allies in the "war on terror". You have a severe case of myopia, Rev. Americans killed.....it's a terrorsit attack against America. BTW, Embassies and Consulates are considered US soil.

How high did your cheer meter go when these attacks were announced? These are more CRIME related by idiots, more so than an organized effort by any group, such as the Taliban, Al Qadea or Hamas!

Diplomats, reporters, tourists etc.. run a risk from Arab savages, and their American sympathy allies from the wacko Left!:mw:mw:osama:devil:sheep

Lone Laugher
10-16-2007, 06:54 AM
[QUOTE=Lone Laugher;147132]Oh...forgive me if my "focus" extends beyond our shores to our soldiers abroad and our allies in the "war on terror". You have a severe case of myopia, Rev. Americans killed.....it's a terrorsit attack against America. BTW, Embassies and Consulates are considered US soil.

How high did your cheer meter go when these attacks were announced? These are more CRIME related by idiots, more so than an organized effort by any group, such as the Taliban, Al Qadea or Hamas!

Diplomats, reporters, tourists etc.. run a risk from Arab savages, and their American sympathy allies from the wacko Left!:mw:mw:osama:devil:sheep


Hey Ringo....you trying to stoop to a new low? Normal people don't even THINK about cheering when others are killed. Crawl back into your hole, will ya.

Ringo
10-16-2007, 10:44 AM
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Hey Ringo....you trying to stoop to a new low? Normal people don't even THINK about cheering when others are killed. Crawl back into your hole, will ya.

Actually the LEFT has many Terrorist sympathizers laughing boy and they have actually stated the Troops get what they DESERVE! Durbin was very close to this as was girly boy Kerry! WHY?? The HATE for Bush, the hate for the so called Right Wing Christian, and the percieved "ONLY CONSERVATIVE" troops!

Normal people do not you are right, but remember Liberal is NOT normal its a disease!!:mw:mw:devil:mw:mw

Yellowdogtexan
10-17-2007, 05:17 PM
One week after telling the truth, this expert is gone. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/17/scott-redd-ntc/Retired Vice Admiral Scott Redd, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, told NBC News this weekend that the U.S. is not “tactically” safer as a result of the Iraq war. That message defied the official line from White House counterterrorism adviser Fran Townsend, who said the “threat level would have been worse” had we not attacked Iraq.

Redd also acknowledged that, over the short term, the Iraq war has created a “giant recruiting tool” for terrorists.

Today, Redd announced his sudden resignation from the NTC. The AP reports:
Retired Vice Adm. John Scott Redd said he is stepping down next month to have a long-delayed surgery and spend more time with his five grandchildren and the rest of his family. His spokesman, Carl Kropf, said Redd needs to have both knees replaced. The surgery will require follow-up rehabilitation and would have meant a prolonged absence from the center.In a note to employees, Redd “provided an upbeat assessment of the administration’s fight against terrorism,” which appeared to contradict his statements made to NBC just a few days earlier. “I believe that as a country we are better prepared today than at any time in our history to wage this war,” he said in his note, neglecting to mention his view that America is actually less safe today because of the Iraq war.If you tell the truth in the bush administration, you get fired pretty darn quick.

Cookie Parker
10-17-2007, 08:38 PM
Man...as if no American could figure that out..you leave the border open to let in cheap illegal labor for corporations...now I ask you. Its been said AlQaeda went to Mexico and studied Spanish..how many of you could tell the difference between someone from Mexico, Central America, South America or the MIddle East if they were all speaking Spanish.

Under Bush, I've just been waiting to spread my legs and kiss my ass good bye.