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Oceanbreeze
10-12-2007, 11:47 AM
I've got a bone to pick here. :censored parents need to quit coddling their kids and make them eat right and excerise! :censored

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=78903:

As a family, we are physically active. My daughters have taken gymnastic or dance lessons since they were 18 months old. They both started playing soccer when they turned 4 years old. My younger one gave it up this year for cheerleading, which is essentially gymnastics. In elementary school I did dance and track. In middle school, the early 1980's, I was the school's track team, volleyball and softball. In high school, I just did volleybal and softball. My husband was on the school's team of basketball and football. He has always been a coach for our kids soccer teams. Of course he also does an hour of Army physical training 5 days a week since 1990.

My kids started school in the years 2000 and 2003, every year and in every state we've lived in OK, VA, GA, and now AZ we have always gotten a health report sent home on the BMI. It's never an issue because we taught them how to eat properly and that excerise is something you have to do everyday of your life.

http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=78903

Kurtz
10-12-2007, 11:51 AM
No shit, I'm sick of hearin' about fat kids. :roll

Git their little asses outside 'n out from in front of the fuckin' TV 'n video games.

And quit treatin' 'em like little kings 'n queens just coz you got parental guilt!

cassandra
10-12-2007, 11:57 AM
I will weigh in here and let you know that I believe some of it to be genetic. To the extent to which people claim it now, absolutely not!

There is something to be said for genetic makeup. Even when I am excercising to my fullest I am still a bit bigger than most people. As a youth I was very active and still always bigger.

I absolutely get what you are saying OB. I think that far too many people make way too many excuses for just about everything.

Oceanbreeze
10-12-2007, 12:02 PM
I whole heartedly agree about genetic make up. If I didn't excerise daily, I would easily put on weight. :mike I occassionaly watch "Celebrity fit club" and remember a guy, can't remember who, who blamed his minimal weight loss on being big boned. Th judges said BULLCRAP and had him medically checkout compared to his team-mates, they were people on his team who lost more weight than him and were bigger boned. :godzilla It was priceless.

cassandra
10-12-2007, 12:04 PM
Very interesting.

At my last physical my Dr. was amazed at how fit I was for the size I am. That is the stuff that matters to me.

Kurtz
10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
I will weigh in here and let you know that I believe some of it to be genetic. To the extent to which people claim it now, absolutely not!

There is something to be said for genetic makeup. Even when I am excercising to my fullest I am still a bit bigger than most people. As a youth I was very active and still always bigger.

I absolutely get what you are saying OB. I think that far too many people make way too many excuses for just about everything.

Absolutely, genetics is the biggest factor.

And so is the 'excuses' people have to push their own existence like the medical profession that wants to tell ya your kids are too fat for reasons other than genetics or laziness. I knew a woman who fed her kids peanut butter sandwiches ALL the time and those 2 girls grew up in different frames, one was skinny like her mom 'n the other was big like her dad.

Parents ought to educate themselves and consider what their own situation is, not listen to damn reports that say ALL kids are fat because of school lunches or lack of exercise.

BUT I still get tired of hearin' about obesity problems.
Look in the fuckin' mirror 'n look at a picture of your parents, then consider what your options are: ya gonna go to the fridge 'n sit in front of the TV or ya gonna get out in the yard and play?
One shoe doesn't fit all...especially if ya got WIDE feet. :lol


I knew TPA was gonna get feminized with all this talk
about babies 'n lady stuff 'n now that I'm out I get to
SPEAK MY MIND.
:lmao

April15
10-12-2007, 12:43 PM
I am a person who has bones that are huge. My wrist is 9 inches in circumference. No fat there either. Until I fell and screwed up my back leg and shoulder I never had a weight problem. Even when lifting weights for body building I was way over the BMI.
I guess it is just a case of admitting you are fat and then trying to correct the problem.

chinacat
10-12-2007, 12:56 PM
I absolutely agree that many children are inactive & have poor diets. I saw that as a huge problem in the inner city schools - I could write a book about the factors that played into that - lack of neighborhood grocery stores so people shopped at the gas station minimart for food, lack of safe playgrounds/yards for kids to play in, poor access to sports programs, general ignorance about nutrition - but many parents were willing to learn, they just honestly didn't know what was healthy & what wasn't.

I sent home a letter and had a big class discussion one year about what was a healthy school snack because my class was eating hohos and drinking koolaid & getting wild after snacktime. The kids were really excited to learn about nutrition & parents came in to ask questions & the kids started putting pressure on them to send healthier things. One boy asked if barbeque chicken was healthy, just as a joke & I told him it was better than barbeque chips or a cookie - so he brought some in the next day and made a big show of eating it. It was hilarious. Everyone high fived him for that.

I see absolutely no problem with making health education part of the school curriculum. Kids that age are impressionable & you can change bad habits.

However, I see the mom's point about the privacy factor. But then she's making a big deal of it now, so obviously privacy isn't what she's really after.

McLovin
10-12-2007, 01:01 PM
Well I do agree that they shouldn't have sent that child home with a note. When I was in school anything like that was MAILED to the parent's attention.

This being said, obesity is a huge problem in this country & not just with children. I have to watch myself DAILY because obesity runs on my father's side & if I don't work out 3x a week & watch what I eat I gain rather quickly. It a total struggle for me & I'm 30. I can't imagine being 10.

Kurtz
10-12-2007, 01:08 PM
I see absolutely no problem with making health education part of the school curriculum. Kids that age are impressionable & you can change bad habits.


That's true for sure. My brother who is 44 eats a yogurt every day 'n drinks lots of water just because one of his favorite teachers told him that 30 somethin' years ago.

And as far as kids educatin' their parents as to what they learned in school, well, here's another story about this brother o' mine that lives with me. Bein' mentally challenged (he does read 'n write thanks to his great teachers 'n his ability), he took food preparation/service as a vocational class in high school. So I break down and buy one of those KitchenAid mixers, ya know the one with the macho motor in it 'n I'm tryin' to act like I know how to cook. So I get all the stuff in the mixer 'n crank 'er up and it wobbles like crazy. The brother is kinda grinnin' 'n I said 'looks like this damn thang doesn't work right.' He stopped the mixer 'n flipped the handle to lift the bowl so the mixer worked right. :lmao
:yep Yep, parentals can learn from their 'kids.'

The Q
10-12-2007, 01:10 PM
Oh there's something to be said for genetics. I am a big girl. 5'8" with a lot of muscle. Even when I'm thin, I weigh a lot. I have very big legs, too.

My husband is Pakistani, and although he's a big guy, a lot of Pakistanis are TINY. I tower over most Paki men, and the women are like little birds.

BUT, that has NOTHING to do with the percentage of FAT on your body. :lmao

I mean, weight isn't necessarily a factor--but how FIT you is. I ran a 10k when I was 180+. That's considered 'overweight' for my height, but I know people much thinner than me that can't run for even a quarter of a mile.

ADQ

Oceanbreeze
10-12-2007, 02:01 PM
Oh there's something to be said for genetics. I am a big girl. 5'8" with a lot of muscle. Even when I'm thin, I weigh a lot. I have very big legs, too.

My husband is Pakistani, and although he's a big guy, a lot of Pakistanis are TINY. I tower over most Paki men, and the women are like little birds.

BUT, that has NOTHING to do with the percentage of FAT on your body. :lmao

I mean, weight isn't necessarily a factor--but how FIT you is. I ran a 10k when I was 180+. That's considered 'overweight' for my height, but I know people much thinner than me that can't run for even a quarter of a mile.

ADQ

:snicker that would be me, but I ride the elliptical instead. :snicker

cassandra
10-12-2007, 02:45 PM
You know I don't mind 30+ minutes on an elliptical rather than a treadmil. I have a girlfried who is the exact opposite.

Oceanbreeze
10-12-2007, 02:49 PM
You know I don't mind 30+ minutes on an elliptical rather than a treadmil. I have a girlfried who is the exact opposite.

My knees are shot, I tried to ride the stationary bike today and my knees hurt. I'm a wimp, I can't run or jog.

patriotsblade
10-12-2007, 03:44 PM
I walk, a lot. I occasionally ride a bike, but I haven't really ran since leaving the army 8 years ago, and I don't intend to start again unless there's some really big S.O.B chasing me.

Trueblue
10-12-2007, 06:26 PM
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April15
10-13-2007, 09:56 AM
Oh there's something to be said for genetics. I am a big girl. 5'8" with a lot of muscle. Even when I'm thin, I weigh a lot. I have very big legs, too.

My husband is Pakistani, and although he's a big guy, a lot of Pakistanis are TINY. I tower over most Paki men, and the women are like little birds.

BUT, that has NOTHING to do with the percentage of FAT on your body. :lmao

I mean, weight isn't necessarily a factor--but how FIT you is. I ran a 10k when I was 180+. That's considered 'overweight' for my height, but I know people much thinner than me that can't run for even a quarter of a mile.

ADQ

Even as a child I could not run as my lungs were screwed up, asthma. Undetected until I was 40.

Incognito
10-15-2007, 08:26 AM
Genetics definitely plays a role in weight......but there is NO excuse for a 2 yr old child to be 50 lbs, or a 6 yr old to be 140 lbs.

crazycase
10-15-2007, 02:29 PM
My dad used to call me big-boned. I wish he would've just told me to get out and be more active, but then again all I wanted to do was read holed up in my room and we see where that got me :lol

That said I've been trying a lot w/ my kids lately about getting them outside at least twice a day. I don't want them to end up like me!

Ringo
10-18-2007, 04:39 PM
I walk, a lot. I occasionally ride a bike, but I haven't really ran since leaving the army 8 years ago, and I don't intend to start again unless there's some really big S.O.B chasing me.

Duck into the Employment Office, they will avoid it like a plague!

I start the day with a 2 mile run, followed by calisthenics and at least 3 times a week I will swim 3 to 4 miles altogether! I work out with my defensive skills coach, and I learn daily! We eat meat sparingly, and its mostly salads and fish! I stay right at 220, can bench press just under 500 lbs, but I am very careful about becoming muscle bound, as I need to be versatile in my work! It takes discipline, desire and the results are worth every minute of your time!