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Wabash
10-11-2007, 03:17 PM
Thu Oct 11 2007 13:19:11 ET

Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, claims he converted from Islam to Christianity, Scott Pelley reports in a story that brings viewers inside the secretive "Supermax" prison where he is being held. Pelley also reports that some 900 force feedings were performed on other al-Qaeda terrorists who went on repeated hunger strikes to protest conditions at the Colorado top-security federal prison. The 60 MINUTES segment will be broadcast Sunday Oct. 14 (7:30-9:00 PM, ET/7:00-9:00 PM, PT) on the CBS Television Network.

The prison in Florence, Colo., which the government calls ADX-Florence for Administrative Maximum, houses the nation's toughest and most infamous criminals, such as Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph, would-be 9/11 terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols and shoe bomber Richard Reid. 60 MINUTES obtained exclusive footage of prisoners inside the facility, where special-case prisoners are allowed only a phone call a month, spend 23 hours a day in their 12-by-7 cells and can get mail only from people approved by the prison.

Robert Hood, its warden from 2002 to 2005, says Yousef was a special case. He never left his cell because he did not want to face the indignity of a strip search required for recreation. "He has that Charlie Manson look," says Hood of Yousef. "He has some charisma about him. He's in [prison] uniform, but you know that there's a powerful person you're looking at," Hood says. Told that Yousef has begun leaving his cell and now claims to be a Christian, Hood says, "He's playing a game with someone. If he's doing that, he's doing it for the reaction....He is the real deal," he tells Pelley. As a Muslim, Yousef prayed almost every hour, remembers Hood.

Other Qaeda terrorists protested the special conditions with hunger strikes that Hood had to end with force feedings. "I probably...authorized, conducted 350, maybe 400 involuntary feedings," recalls Hood. "You could have one person, three meals a day for...two months."

Pelley also speaks with a corrections officer inside ADX-Florence, who tells him what she heard on 9/11 after terrorist prisoners saw the destruction on their televisions. "We had a lot of them jump up and down. ...scream and yell and clap and they were very excited," says Barbara Batulis, who heads the prison's staff union. She also characterizes the Muslim extremists as needy. "They want more than what they have coming," she says. "They want extra toilet paper...writing paper...extra envelopes and if you can't give them, they want to see a supervisor right then and there."

Batulis would rather work among the other prisoners because she is female. "It's very obvious, [Muslim extremists] just look at you with sheer disdain." Hate can turn into threats. "A terrorist inmate threatened to kill my family, because I was doing my job," Batulis tells Pelley. Batulis says the prison needs more officers. "...We are very short staffed. I firmly believe that staff lives are at stake," she says.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm

Kurtz
10-11-2007, 03:42 PM
Interestin' post, Wabby.

I know inmates in most prisons do that "Christian number" out of sheer boredom, gets them some special privileges like goin' to services rather than sittin' in the cell on Sunday.

patriotsblade
10-11-2007, 03:50 PM
Interestin' post, Wabby.

I know inmates in most prisons do that "Christian number" out of sheer boredom, gets them some special privileges like goin' to services rather than sittin' in the cell on Sunday.

When I was in basic training you would not beleive the number of trainees that suddenly found Jesus. It was either go to service on Sunday or clean the barracks.

Kurtz
10-11-2007, 03:50 PM
When I was in basic training you would not beleive the number of trainees that suddenly found Jesus. It was either go to service on Sunday or clean the barracks.

Exactly! :theman

toxic
10-11-2007, 04:30 PM
When I was in basic training you would not beleive the number of trainees that suddenly found Jesus. It was either go to service on Sunday or clean the barracks.

You would not recognize the Army of 35 years ago. There were only a few guys that went to Sunday services (and I would have classified them as retarded).

I have noticed pictures of guys huddled up with arms around each other in prayer. That would have been unheard of. Both the touching and the praying. I think women have really feminized the service.

I think the men only living conditions probably created a different dynamic between troops.

Wolf Blitzer had a special on the other day about overcrowding in California prisons. Those prison accomodations would have been consider luxury barracks in the Army I knew.

You typically had 40 guys in the main barracks hall that was about 40 ft long and 20 ft wide. I really had to look to find a picture of the standard setup.

http://www.gallagher.com/ww2/images/Army_Bunks_2_16.jpg

You can probably imagine that anytime you woke up at night, you would hear someone pounding their pud.

the worst conditions I ever had was 60 guys in the same barracks type as in the photo. Bunks were about 12 inches apart. I need to scan some photos in and start a thread on this.

Kurtz
10-11-2007, 04:37 PM
I have noticed pictures of guys huddled up with arms around each other in prayer. That would have been unheard of. Both the touching and the praying. I think women have really feminized the service.



Ah, I beg your pardon!

The curse of Christianity makes those men huddle
in prayer, don't blame that shit on women.

AYFR
10-11-2007, 04:42 PM
Ah, I beg your pardon!

The curse of Christianity makes those men huddle
in prayer, don't blame that shit on women.

Uh hmm I think that you mean the blessing of Christianity :D :wink

Back on topic, if this guy is sincere good for him, still needs to have justice served but good for him.

Kurtz
10-11-2007, 04:50 PM
Ah, I beg your pardon!

The curse of Christianity makes those men huddle
in prayer, don't blame that shit on women.

Uh hmm I think that you mean the blessing of Christianity :D :wink

Back on topic, if this guy is sincere good for him, still needs to have justice served but good for him.


That's true, one can't blame Christianity on women either! :lol :wink

And yes, you're right, justice still needs to be served
to all faiths when they are guilty convicted criminals.

AYFR
10-11-2007, 04:52 PM
That's true, one can't blame Christianity on women either! :lol :wink



God I missed you.

No sarcasm just plain country honesty

Kurtz
10-11-2007, 04:56 PM
God I missed you.

No sarcasm just plain country honesty

I've missed you too, AYFR! :hug

And that's spelled cuntry where I live. :wink


:kurtz

Wabash
10-12-2007, 01:52 AM
Interestin' post, Wabby.

I know inmates in most prisons do that "Christian number" out of sheer boredom, gets them some special privileges like goin' to services rather than sittin' in the cell on Sunday.

Yep...their new religious fervor was always directly proportional to their release date or date of execution.:wink

When I was in basic training you would not beleive the number of trainees that suddenly found Jesus. It was either go to service on Sunday or clean the barracks.

Yep...that's called motivational therapy! We ALL has got religion Brothers and Sisters ...So come on down to the Church of What's Happenin Now...Brother!:crowd

Izdaari
10-12-2007, 03:36 AM
I hope Ramzi's conversion is sincere. It won't get him out of the slammer, nor should it, but he'll get to go to the real paradise, not the place with the 72 Virginians.:angel

cassandra
10-12-2007, 10:32 AM
If this is true I am happy for him.

However, becoming a Christian saves ones soul in the eyes of God. He still committed a crime and needs to serve his sentence regardless of his religion.

Kurtz
10-12-2007, 10:43 AM
Interestin' post, Wabby.

I know inmates in most prisons do that "Christian number" out of sheer boredom, gets them some special privileges like goin' to services rather than sittin' in the cell on Sunday.

Yep...their new religious fervor was always directly proportional to their release date or date of execution.:wink

When I was in basic training you would not beleive the number of trainees that suddenly found Jesus. It was either go to service on Sunday or clean the barracks.

:yep

A li'l group think, we know what the game is, don't we, guys? :wink

Ringo
10-13-2007, 10:14 AM
:yep

A li'l group think, we know what the game is, don't we, guys? :wink

Could be he just got tired of washing his prayer blanket??