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Wabash
10-10-2007, 03:12 PM
Got this in an email yesterday...

Hey Guys; I saw on the news up here in Canada where
Hillary Clinton introduced her new health care plan.
Something similar to what we have in Canada . I also
heard that Michael Moore was raving about the health
care up here in Canada in his latest movie. As your
friend and someone who lives with the Canada health
care plan I thought I would give you some facts about
this great medical plan that we have in Canada .

First of all:

1) The health care plan in Canada is not free. We pay
a premium every month of $96. for Shirley and I to be
covered. Sounds great eh. What they don't tell you
is how much we pay in taxes to keep the health care
system afloat. I am personally in the 55% tax
bracket. Yes 55% of my earnings go to taxes. A large
portion of that and I am not sure of the exact amount
goes directly to health care our #1 expense.

2) I would not classify what we have as health care
plan, it is more like a health diagnosis system. You
can get into to see a doctor quick enough so he can
tell you "yes indeed you are sick or you need an
operation" but now the challenge becomes getting
treated or operated on. We have waiting lists out the
ying yang some as much as 2 years down the road.

3) Rather than fix what is wrong with you the usual
tactic in Canada is to prescribe drugs. Have a pain
here is a drug to take- not what is causing the pain
and why. No time for checking you out because it is
more important to move as many patients thru as
possible each hour for Government re-imbursement

4) Many Canadians do n ot have a family Doctor.

5) Don't require emergency treatment as you may wait
for hours in the emergency room waiting for treatment.

6) Shirley's dad cut his hand on a power saw a few
weeks back and it required that his hand be put in a
splint - to our surprise we had to pay $125. for a
splint because it is not covered under health care
plus we have to pay $60. for each visit for him to
check it out each week.

7) Shirley's cousin was diagnosed with a heart
blockage. Put on a waiting list . Died before he
could get treatment.

8) Government allots so many operations per year.
When that is done no more operations, unless you go to
your local newspaper and plead your case and embarrass
the government then money suddenly appears.

9)The Government takes great pride in telling us how
much more they are increasing the funding for health
care but waiting lists never get shorter. Government
just keeps throwing money at the problem but it never
goes away. But they are good at finding new ways to
tax us, but they don't call it a tax anymore it is now
a user fee.

10) My mother needs an operation for a blockage in her
leg but because she is a smoker they will not do it.
Despite her and my father paying into the health care
system all these years. My Mom is 80 years of age.
Now there is talk that maybe we should not treat fat
and obese people either because they are a drain on
the health care system. Let me see now, what we want
in Canada is a health care system for healthy peop le
only. That should reduce our health care costs.

11) Forget getting a second opinion, what you see is
what you get.

12) I can spend what money I have left after taxes on
booze, cigarettes, junk food and anything else that
could kill me but I am not allowed by law to spend my
money on getting an operation I need because that
would be jumping the queue. I must wait my turn
except if I am a hockey player or athlete then I can
get looked at right away. Go figger. Where else in
the world can you spend money to kill yourself but not
allowed to spend money to get healthy.

13) Oh did I mention that immigrants are covered
automatically at tax payer expense having never
contributed a dollar to the system and pay no
premiums.

14) Oh yeah we now give free needles to drug users to
try and keep them healthy. Wouldn't want a sickly
druggie b reaking into your house and stealing your
things. But people with diabetes who pay into the
health care system have to pay for their needles
because it is not covered but the health care system.

I send this out not looking for sympathy but as the
election looms in the states you will be hearing more
and more about universal health care down there and
the advocates will be pointing to Canada . I just
want to make sure that you hear the truth about health
care up here and have some food for thought and
informed questions to ask when broached with this
subject.

Step wisely and don't make the same mistakes we have.

chinacat
10-10-2007, 03:37 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/canada.asp

patriotsblade
10-10-2007, 03:39 PM
Good work Chinacat.

Kurtz
10-10-2007, 04:05 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/canada.asp

:clap :clap :clap

:admin

Snopes does have an interestin' analysis for those who care.

April15
10-10-2007, 04:18 PM
As usual Wabash you start out with false information on your subject. I also heard that Michael Moore was raving about the health care up here in Canada in his latest movie. The truth is his comparison was ours to Canada's.
Then go on to rant about a subject that uses false facts. Even though this is a pass on BS piece it makes the passer look like a Bush apollogist.

Wabash
10-18-2007, 12:02 PM
Whatever snopes says...Socialized medicine is still bad news...Example:

A one month wait for cancer treatment is signing your own death warrant!

Socialized medicine is Socialism pure and simple and Bad News.......Period!

patriotsblade
10-18-2007, 12:26 PM
Hillary really has you pretty freaked out doesn't she Wabby?

April15
10-18-2007, 12:48 PM
Whatever snopes says...Socialized medicine is still bad news...Example:

A one month wait for cancer treatment is signing your own death warrant!

Socialized medicine is Socialism pure and simple and Bad News.......Period!Being a member of an HMO is not any better.

toxic
10-18-2007, 03:04 PM
Wabby talking:

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