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patriotsblade
10-04-2007, 05:50 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21124434/

NEVADA, Iowa - Twenty-four minutes after he began speaking in a small restaurant the other day, Fred D. Thompson brought his remarks to a close with a nod of his head and an expression of thanks to Iowans for allowing him to “give my thoughts about some things.”

Then he stood face to face with a silent audience.

“Can I have a round of applause?”:zen Mr. Thompson said, drawing a rustle of clapping and some laughter. :lmao

“Well, I had to drag that out of you,” he said.:bitch

Mr. Thompson is a former United States senator, television actor and Watergate investigator. His entry into the presidential race was highly anticipated by many Republicans, who saw or hoped to see in him outsized political talent and a commitment to conservatism that would enliven a Republican field that many found lacking.

But as Mr. Thompson campaigned in Iowa this week, he was something other than the dynamic presence that some in his party have been yearning for. Iowans saw a subdued, laconic candidate who spoke in a soft monotone, threw few elbows and displayed little drive to distinguish himself from his opponents.

Mr. Thompson told few jokes and, while an easygoing presence, did not appear to have much interest in the small talk that is a staple of retail campaigning. As he defined his candidacy, Mr. Thompson spoke in broad generalities about the conservative principles that he said had informed his political views — in particular, federalism and cutting government spending — and led him to run for president.

In the process, he often lulled audiences into the kind of stillness that engulfed the room when he finished talking at the “Lunch With Fred Thompson” in Marshalltown.

“On prosperity, I have a real novel approach, a real creative approach,” he said in Coralville the other night. “Let’s continue doing what works and quit doing what doesn’t work in this country. Tax cuts work.”

Turning to what he said would be a second priority of a Thompson administration, he said, “High, high, high on our lists of concerns for anybody who would think about becoming president of the United States is the security of this nation.”


For Mr. Thompson, this is the start of a second and arguably critical chapter of his campaign after a much-delayed — and in the view of many Republicans, inauspicious — announcement tour in which he seemed unversed in the kind of issues that routinely confront presidential candidates. Although he continues to do well in national polls, he did not show any particular strength in fund-raising in his campaign’s opening months, and he has done little to alter the basic dynamic of the Republican race.

Still, that race remains remarkably fluid, and on this trip Mr. Thompson showed some signs of developing as a candidate. For the last several days, he has been vigorously attacking Democrats for trying to increase government spending and defending President Bush’s veto of a proposed expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program.



Voters who came out to see Mr. Thompson as he traveled through Iowa, even while expressing admiration for his views and intense interest in his candidacy, said they were struck by how little energy or passion he appeared to bring into a room.

“I hope his campaign strategy works for him, but I’m not sure it will,” said Kay Odell, a retired child-abuse worker, who talked to Mr. Thompson as he campaigned at a coffee shop in Iowa Falls. “He comes across as very low-key.”

She added, “I’m sure he’ll make a good president.”

At a late-afternoon rally in Cedar Falls, Beverly Denney said she admired what he said and was likely to support him, but suggested that he had been outshone on the podium by local Iowa legislators who had introduced him. “I’m sure this is his fourth event of the day,” she said. (It was, but one of them was a “walking tour of Downtown Iowa Falls” that took him to two stores and lasted less than 15 minutes.)

If Mr. Thompson was subdued on the stump, he was more animated in an interview as he discussed some of the criticism of his early campaign effort. He bristled at the notion that his campaign had had anything but a strong beginning. And he suggested that “the pundits” were holding him to a tougher standard than his opponents because, he said, he was defying the rules by getting in so late.

“That’s what happens when you go against the grain and test a new theory out,” he said. “Some may be vested in the notion that you can’t get in this late, that I’m trying to just say, ‘Well, they’ve seen me on “Law & Order” and that will carry me to the presidency.’ They just don’t think that is right.”

“I played the hand that I dealt myself, and there are a lot of advantages to that,” he said. “If you look at any of the objective criteria — and I know that people seem to hold me to a somewhat different standard in some respects — but in terms of real people, in terms of polls and money and things like that, it hasn’t hurt me politically.”

Still, Mr. Thompson at times seems to be looking for his sea legs. In an interview with Kay Henderson of Radio Iowa on Wednesday, in talking about Iran, he referred to the “Soviet Union and China.” (Ms. Henderson, at the end of her blog post on the exchange, wrote: “No, I did not mistype. Thompson said Soviet Union rather than Russia.”)

On the first day of his visit here, he attacked the Medicare prescription drug plan signed into law by Mr. Bush in 2003 as too costly. That bill was “written and championed by Iowa’s popular Republican Senator Charles Grassley,” as was tartly noted in a front-page article in The Des Moines Register, referring to the senator whom all the Republican presidential candidates are assiduously courting for an endorsement.

Mr. Thompson, who was faulted on his last trip for keeping a relatively leisurely schedule, stepped up the pace this time. Wherever he went, he towered over the crowd, wearing a wrinkled jacket with the top two buttons of his shirt unfastened. After his events, he tended to stay for only a few minutes to sign some autographs or pose for some pictures. Mr. Thompson does not appear to share the taste of some of his rivals for lingering at the rope line shaking hands; he tends not to ask many questions of the people he meets and not to make prolonged eye contact with them.

Mr. Thompson said that perceived stumbles by him, like appearing not to know anything on a visit to Florida about a dispute over oil drilling in the Everglades, had been seized upon by rival campaigns that had begun coming after him before he even got into the race. Not, he was quick to add, that he had a problem with that. “As I like to say, it’s not my first rodeo,” he said.

What a Lo-ser. So much for the great conservative hope.:titanic

Semantics
10-04-2007, 05:57 AM
Good.


Thompson would just be a sad continuation of what we have now. :no

patriotsblade
10-04-2007, 06:06 AM
“As I like to say, it’s not my first rodeo,” he said.

Yeeehawww!

Just what America needs, another fuckin' cowboy. [/sarcasm]

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 08:18 AM
Gee, he is neck and neck with Guliani and he has only been in for a month.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/daily_presidential_tracking_poll__1

No president has ever been elected without winning at least one state in the south, which state in the south do you think she is going to win?

Florida ain't happening.

Here is why.... Everyone keeps thinking with all those retirees from the NE moving to FL eventually it is going to turn dem. Well you may not realize it but those over 65 don't usually live that much longer.

Plus many from the midwest move to FL to retire as well.

Don't forget that Bush won FL by over 300,000 votes last time.

So which souther state is she going to win?

patriotsblade
10-04-2007, 09:44 AM
So which souther state is she going to win?

South Carolina.

issac the dragon
10-04-2007, 10:43 AM
I think Lyndon Johnson did it. Lincoln too. But don't bet the farm I'm right. What I've read about Thompson can be summed up in an old saying. There ain't no there there.

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 11:11 AM
South Carolina.

Dream on....

Here are the results from the last election... Bush 58 to 41%
Not that much will change for this one.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/SC/P/00/index.html

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 11:15 AM
I think Lyndon Johnson did it. Lincoln too. But don't bet the farm I'm right. What I've read about Thompson can be summed up in an old saying. There ain't no there there.

What you know in general can be summed up with the same saying...

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 11:26 AM
So the delusional can be informed.

If you really think that the dem nom can win in the south , especially hillera, here are the results from the last pres election I am only going to put the percentages cause the same person won them all -

Things have not changed enough in any of these states to make a difference next year. Cause even republicans like me who don't like Bush all that much are still not going to vote for a damn democrat.


LA - 57-42
AR - 54-45
KS - 62-37
MI - 60-40
AL - 63-37
TN - 57-43
KY - 60-40
FL - 52-47
GA - 58-41
SC - 58-41
NC - 56-44
VA - 54-46
WV - 58-43
TX - 61-34
OK - 66-34

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 11:33 AM
I think Lyndon Johnson did it. Lincoln too. But don't bet the farm I'm right. What I've read about Thompson can be summed up in an old saying. There ain't no there there.

Lyndon won the south, hell Goldwater only got 52 electoral votes, mostly in the west.

With Lincoln , there were not that many states to begin with.

But I will amend , in modern times...

patriotsblade
10-04-2007, 11:37 AM
Bill won Arkansas by big margins in 92 and 96. Now I realize she's not from there but she was a popular first lady there. You can't count Arkansas out.
http://www.multied.com/elections/1992state.html
http://www.multied.com/elections/1996state.html

BTW I meant Virginia and not SC, my bad, and Virginia is very purple now.

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 12:33 PM
Bill won Arkansas by big margins in 92 and 96. Now I realize she's not from there but she was a popular first lady there. You can't count Arkansas out.
http://www.multied.com/elections/1992state.html
http://www.multied.com/elections/1996state.html

BTW I meant Virginia and not SC, my bad, and Virginia is very purple now.

Va is becoming less and less of a southern state. Because of it's proxsimity to DC it has may bedroom communities for government employees who are overwhelmingly democrats.

But Bush still won my 8% in 2004 and when the dems mominate Hillera, every republican in the country will turn out to vote. I still predict Va as a republican state for the presidential race.

patriotsblade
10-04-2007, 01:13 PM
And here, he referred to Russia as 'The Soviet Union', I'm almost embarassed for him.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/04/the_skinny/main3328872.shtml

All those poor dolts that have sent him money.:rofl:sadcheer

Yellowdogtexan
10-04-2007, 01:17 PM
I saw that Soviet Union quote. That is really pretty sad.

patriotsblade
10-04-2007, 01:20 PM
I saw that Soviet Union quote. That is really pretty sad.

I really didn't think anyone could be more out of touch than George W. Bush.

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 02:45 PM
Bill won Arkansas by big margins in 92 and 96. Now I realize she's not from there but she was a popular first lady there. You can't count Arkansas out.
http://www.multied.com/elections/1992state.html
http://www.multied.com/elections/1996state.html

BTW I meant Virginia and not SC, my bad, and Virginia is very purple now.

He won because he was a 3 term gov. Ms. Clinton was always seen as a liability in that state. She is from Chicago, she sounds and acts like a northeastern leftist and that doe snot sell in Ark your kidding yourself if you think that she will pull that state.

I know a few people from Ark saying they voted for bill in 92 hopin ghe would win and take that bitch to DC with him.

Capitalist
10-04-2007, 02:51 PM
I really didn't think anyone could be more out of touch than George W. Bush.

Yawn...

Is that all you got?

Yellowdogtexan
10-05-2007, 12:31 AM
The Colbert Report had a great deal of fun with this tonight. The bit was great and really made Thompson look lame.

patriotsblade
10-05-2007, 02:53 AM
Thompson doesn't need much help from the Colbert report to look lame.

Yellowdogtexan
10-05-2007, 07:57 AM
Thompson doesn't need much help from the Colbert report to look lame. No, but it was still very very funny. Again, the best way to deal with idiots like Thompson is with humor and shows like the Colbert Report and The Daily Show. If you get a chance what the opening segment of the Colbert Show when it is repeated today. It was very funny

Trueblue
10-05-2007, 03:12 PM
Good.


Thompson would just be a sad continuation of what we have now. :no

Amen.

Va is becoming less and less of a southern state. Because of it's proxsimity to DC it has may bedroom communities for government employees who are overwhelmingly democrats.

But Bush still won my 8% in 2004 and when the dems mominate Hillera, every republican in the country will turn out to vote. I still predict Va as a republican state for the presidential race.

Uh, they still have the same number of electoral votes, regardless of what you "consider" them.

He won because he was a 3 term gov. Ms. Clinton was always seen as a liability in that state. She is from Chicago, she sounds and acts like a northeastern leftist and that doe snot sell in Ark your kidding yourself if you think that she will pull that state.

I know a few people from Ark saying they voted for bill in 92 hopin ghe would win and take that bitch to DC with him.

doe snot. :rofl

Yellowdogtexan
10-08-2007, 04:57 PM
SNL nailed Thompson this weekend. Here is a link to the skit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRdVMUbTG8

Wabash
10-08-2007, 05:20 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21124434/



What a Lo-ser. So much for the great conservative hope.:titanic

Ya, blah, blah, blah...they said that about Reagan too! Wasn't his win a Landslide affair?

Good.


Thompson would just be a sad continuation of what we have now. :no

Not even close!

Yeeehawww!

Just what America needs, another fuckin' cowboy. [/sarcasm]

Nothing wrong with a cowboy, better then some rich stuff shirt from Mass. or New Yawk!

I think Lyndon Johnson did it. Lincoln too. But don't bet the farm I'm right. What I've read about Thompson can be summed up in an old saying. There ain't no there there.

You are stuttering...

What you know in general can be summed up with the same saying...

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Boy howdy!:rofl:rofl:rofl

Wabash
10-08-2007, 06:54 PM
btw blade....some of our BEST Presidents were cowboys, horsemen and all around tough guys...Andy Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan...to name a few...

quiet man
10-08-2007, 07:23 PM
too bad his wife gets more press than he does. the great republican hope is sinking away in IOWA of all places.