IF the Democrats are

[AYFR]

so opposed to this war why don't they just stop funding it?

I'll tell you why, because the get much more out of being able to politicize it then they would to have it stopped.

They are all talk and no action hence their approval rating (Which BTW is LOWER the Bushes)

So how doe it feel to have a lowere approval rating then the "worst" LOL president in history?

[graybeard]

so opposed to this war why don't they just stop funding it?

I'll tell you why, because the get much more out of being able to politicize it then they would to have it stopped.

They are all talk and no action hence their approval rating (Which BTW is LOWER the Bushes)

So how doe it feel to have a lowere approval rating then the "worst" LOL president in history?

The don't have the votes to override Bush's Veto.

[AYFR]

Point is they haven't even TRIED.

In fact they have done NOTHING since taking power.

[patriotsblade]

so opposed to this war why don't they just stop funding it?

I'll tell you why, because the get much more out of being able to politicize it then they would to have it stopped.

They are all talk and no action hence their approval rating (Which BTW is LOWER the Bushes)

So how doe it feel to have a lowere approval rating then the "worst" LOL president in history?

Nice try, but you are going to get owned on this one. The Democrats have a favorability rating of between 50-53%.

http://pollingreport.com/institut2.htm#Democrats

Moron-in-chief is sitting around 29-34%.
http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

Some advice, do a little research before posting wild claims.:godzilla

[Trueblue]

Congress always has a low approval rating-but last time I heard, the public typically approves of their own Representative.

The Dems are somewhat stymied, the war is a complicated issue. I think that most people realize that.

[crazierthanever]

The house and senate leadership has been unsuccessful at stopping the war. If they've tried hard they're not getting the word out. I think they'll pay for it but not as much as their counterparts on the other side of the aisle will. If things don't change quickly the republicans will lose big in '08!:godzilla

[bluedog]

The truth to the matter is that in the last 30 years the "conservatives" have dominated the only "poll" that really counts. As they have quite large "gap" in the actual poll of the voting booth. Having gained the Executive Branch of Government in 20 of the last 28 years...the branch that is in charge of managing our government. In way one wants to look at it that almost a 70% approval rating, with the only other CEO gaining his seat by running on moderately conservative campaign platform of "welfare reform" and taking the position of promising to rid the world of its most evil terrorist that the conservatives were stupid enough to leave in power...IE Saddam Hussein. So it would be save to say that the conservatives have more than 50/50 change of retaining the executive branch once again. BD

[issac the dragon]

Lets be honest. The professional politicians on the Republican side don't want to win. They know that the Bushies have created a quagmire in Iraq, and that the economy is going straight in the crapper. Never been a better time to lose an election. They'll have a new Democratic president to blame every thing they did/do on. SNAFU.

[toxic]

so opposed to this war why don't they just stop funding it?

I'll tell you why, because the get much more out of being able to politicize it then they would to have it stopped.

Do you suppose they are as pragmatic and Machivellian as Karl Rove???

They are all talk and no action hence their approval rating (Which BTW is LOWER the Bushes)

So how doe it feel to have a lowere approval rating then the "worst" LOL president in history?

Actually, Bush has slipped back down to 29% and the Democrats in Congress are at 30%.

[The Q]

HEY!
There's toxic!

:woot

ADQ

[AYFR]

Nice try, but you are going to get owned on this one. The Democrats have a favorability rating of between 50-53%.

http://pollingreport.com/institut2.htm#Democrats

Moron-in-chief is sitting around 29-34%.
http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

Some advice, do a little research before posting wild claims.:godzilla

Wrong

A new Gallup Poll finds Congress' approval rating the lowest it has been since Gallup first tracked public opinion of Congress with this measure in 1974. Just 18% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, while 76% disapprove, according to the August 13-16, 2007, Gallup Poll.
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28456

BTW I always do my research.

[sparks]

Wrong

A new Gallup Poll finds Congress' approval rating the lowest it has been since Gallup first tracked public opinion of Congress with this measure in 1974. Just 18% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing, while 76% disapprove, according to the August 13-16, 2007, Gallup Poll.
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28456

BTW I always do my research.

And sometimes you sound like a darn textbook too! Rev, Rev, Rev...I miss your fun loving spirit! You've become way too starched!

[AYFR]

And sometimes you sound like a darn textbook too! Rev, Rev, Rev...I miss your fun loving spirit! You've become way too starched!

It is still there. He just accused me of not researching and well "neener neener neener" I proved him wrong.

[patriotsblade]

OK Reverend, my research shows the Democratic party with a 50-53% approval rating. I said nothing about Congress' approval rating.

(see link from my previous post), (http://pollingreport.com/institut2.htm#Democrats)

Now if you want to discuss the popularity rating of congress in general, I think it would be quite silly to ignore the fact that congress is still made up of both parties.

[sparks]

It is still there. He just accused me of not researching and well "neener neener neener" I proved him wrong.

You need to bring it out and play more often! :yep

:wave

[bluedog]

OK Reverend, my research shows the Democratic party with a 50-53% approval rating. I said nothing about Congress' approval rating.

(see link from my previous post), (http://pollingreport.com/institut2.htm#Democrats)

Now if you want to discuss the popularity rating of congress in general, I think it would be quite silly to ignore the fact that congress is still made up of both parties.

That's what my wife thinks, because everyone says that she "looks" good behind the wheel, but truth be told, when the rubber hits the road, she just can't "drive" worth a damn. BD

[AYFR]

OK Reverend, my research shows the Democratic party with a 50-53% approval rating. I said nothing about Congress' approval rating.

(see link from my previous post), (http://pollingreport.com/institut2.htm#Democrats)

Now if you want to discuss the popularity rating of congress in general, I think it would be quite silly to ignore the fact that congress is still made up of both parties.

I know that Congress is made of both parties, BUT it is the party in control that the rating goes to. Always has, always will. Those in charge (majority) are those that get the blame.

Personally I think that BOTH parties really suck right now.

[Trueblue]

Congress is NEVER popular. This isn't news. Congress is a collection of people.

[Saguaro]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Most Americans oppose fully funding President George W. Bush's $190 billion request to fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while a majority supports expanding a children's health care program he has threatened to veto, a Washington Post-ABC News poll shows.

The poll published on Tuesday also shows deep dissatisfaction with the president and with Congress, partly because of the stalemate between Democrats and the White House over Iraq policy, The Washington Post reported.

Bush's approval rating stands at 33 percent, equal to his all-time low in this poll and just 29 percent approve of the job Congress is doing -- a 14-point drop since Democrats took control in January, the newspaper said.

More than eight in 10 liberal Democrats said Congress has been too restrained in challenging Bush's Iraq policy; about the same percentage of conservative Republicans said it has been too aggressive and a narrow majority of independents, 53 percent, want Congress to do more, the Post reported.

Only about 25 percent of Americans support the administration's $190 billion war funding request; 70 percent want the proposed allocation reduced, the Post said.

According to the poll, more than seven in 10 support the planned $35 billion increase included in legislation that would renew the children's health care program administered by the states. Twenty-five percent oppose the increased spending, the Post said.

The poll of 1,114 people was taken Thursday through Sunday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071002/ts_nm/usa_poll_iraq_dc;_ylt=Ajut2nqq4ns7SWZN9coNhmes0NUE

[patriotsblade]

I know that Congress is made of both parties, BUT it is the party in control that the rating goes to. Always has, always will. Those in charge (majority) are those that get the blame.

Personally I think that BOTH parties really suck right now.

I knew I wasn't finished here.

Have a lookey here.


Rating of job Dems are doing in congress- 38% approve - 57% disapprove
Congress: Democrats (http://pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm)

Rating of job Republicans are doing in congress - 29% approve - 67% disapprove

Congress: Republicans (http://pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm)

:rooster

[AYFR]

You have to take Congress as a whole, just chosing one side doesn't mean squat. The Dems have the power and fail to use it hence the low OVERALL approval rating of Congress lies on them.

[AYFR]

Now why don't you address the other part of the begining post?

[Trueblue]

so opposed to this war why don't they just stop funding it?

I'll tell you why, because the get much more out of being able to politicize it then they would to have it stopped.

They are all talk and no action hence their approval rating (Which BTW is LOWER the Bushes)

So how doe it feel to have a lowere approval rating then the "worst" LOL president in history?

Because the situation is complex, and hasty action is what created the problem. Further hasty action should be avoided.

Why not give people in public office a little credit once in a while?

[Saguaro]

You have to take Congress as a whole, just chosing one side doesn't mean squat. The Dems have the power and fail to use it hence the low OVERALL approval rating of Congress lies on them.

You actually believe that ? They control the vote by ONE, Cheney would negate that vote

[Yellowdogtexan]

Rep. David Obey is putting off any vote by the House on any defense spending bill and funding of the war in Iraq until January or Feb. of 2008. The reason for this is simple, the republicans who are in blue districts will feel more pressure to vote against bush. Bush may not be able to sustain a veto if enough republicans see the 2008 elections coming up and have to vote to sustain a veto by bush.

[AYFR]

Because the situation is complex, and hasty action is what created the problem. Further hasty action should be avoided.

Why not give people in public office a little credit once in a while?
Because they have not earned it, Rep or Dem.
You actually believe that ? They control the vote by ONE, Cheney would negate that vote

The Senate by one but the House by a lot more and besides there are ways that the majority have of passing stuuf just because they are the majority.

[Cookie Parker]

You have to take Congress as a whole, just chosing one side doesn't mean squat. The Dems have the power and fail to use it hence the low OVERALL approval rating of Congress lies on them.

You know that's not true....Senate is NOT controlled by Democrats and they don't have the power to override the veto...look at the Iraq bill...republicans opposed it and it never passed.

The obstructionism of the republican party in doing anything which does NOT favor the wealthy is the reason for the low rating in Congress....just as the republican president is bringing down the republican ratings in the white house...

The truth....

http://bluetiderising.blogspot.com/2007/08/republican-obstructionism-is-backfiring.html

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/18218.html

Just because the elite corporate news doesn't report it, does NOT mean it's not real...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lane-hudson/the-dark-magic-of-republi_b_59003.html

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2007/06/boehner-and-republican-obstructionists.html

So, prove these wrong...

[toxic]

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Sept. 27-30, 2007. N=1,114 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults). Fieldwork by TNS.

"Overall, how much do you think Congress has accomplished this year: a great deal, a good amount, not too much, or nothing at all?"

A Great Deal 2%
A Good Amount 14%
Not Too Much 65%
Nothing At All 17%
Unsure 1%

Asked of those who said not too much or nothing at all:
"Who would you say deserves most of the blame for that: President Bush and the Republicans in Congress or the Democrats in Congress?"

Bush and Republicans In Congress 51%
Democrats In Congress 25%
Both 20%
Neither 2%
Unsure 2%

[patriotsblade]

ABC News/Washington Post Poll. Sept. 27-30, 2007. N=1,114 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults). Fieldwork by TNS.

"Overall, how much do you think Congress has accomplished this year: a great deal, a good amount, not too much, or nothing at all?"

A Great Deal 2%
A Good Amount 14%
Not Too Much 65%
Nothing At All 17%
Unsure 1%

Asked of those who said not too much or nothing at all:
"Who would you say deserves most of the blame for that: President Bush and the Republicans in Congress or the Democrats in Congress?"

Bush and Republicans In Congress 51%
Democrats In Congress 25%
Both 20%
Neither 2%
Unsure 2%

:godzilla:sumo:roar:taz

[AYFR]

Just 16% of American voters now say that Congress is doing a Good (14%) or an Excellent (2%) job. That’s down from 19% in mid-June and from 26% at the end of May. Today, 35% say Congress is doing a Fair job while 46% say Poor (see history).

The current ratings for Congress are just a single point above the ratings for the Republican controlled Congress heading into Election 2006.

Among Democratic voters, 26% now say Congress is doing a good or an excellent job. That’s down from 35% a month ago. Thirty-seven percent (37%) of Democrats say their team is doing a fair job while 32% say poor. Only 13% of Republicans say Congress is doing a good or excellent job and just 9% of unaffiliated voters share that assessment.

Culprits are easy to find. Most Americans say that the Democrats in Congress have not done enough to change President Bush’s policy on Iraq. Additionally, of course, the Senate has spent most of the past month trying to overcome public opinion as pass a very unpopular immigration reform bill. While energy legislation passed by the Senate may be potentially popular, voters weren’t paying any attention.

Sixty-two percent (62%) of voters say Congress has not passed any legislation over the past year that will significantly improve life in America. That’s up from 55% on Election Night 2006. The number believing that Congress has passed significant legislation is now 15%, down from 17% last November.

Overall, just 9% of Americans say it’s Very Likely that Congress will seriously address the important issues facing the nation this year. Another 29% say it is Somewhat Likely that Congress will do so. Most (58%) say Congress is Not Very Likely or Not at All Likely to address the important issues before us. Those figures have changed little since Election 2006.

While voters are frustrated with Congress, Democrats continue have reclaimed a double-digit lead on the Generic Congressional Ballot. Voters continue to trust Democrats more than Republican on nine of ten key issues tracked by Rasmussen Reports.

Seventy-three percent (73%) of American voters believe that Members of Congress are primarily interested in their own careers. Just 12% believe the legislators are primarily interested in helping people. Those figures have changed little over the past seven months.

Rasmussen Reports regularly tracks public attitudes towards Congress, the War on Terror, and other topics. Rasmussen Reports also continuously updates favorability ratings and general election match-ups for all Democratic and Republican Presidential candidates along with ratings for Members of Congress, Other Political Figures, and Journalists.

Rasmussen Reports releases updated polling data on the Democrat Nomination Process every Monday and on the Republican contest every Tuesday. Results for the Generic Congressional Ballot are updated monthly.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/46_say_congress_doing_poor_job_16_say_good_or_exce llent

Like I said they are not even trying.
Most American voters (53%) say that Democrats in Congress have not done “enough to change President Bush’s policies in Iraq.” A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 26% hold the opposite view and believe the Democrats have done too much on Iraq. Thirteen percent (13%) say Congress has done the right amount of pushing while 8% are not sure.

The survey also found that 56% would like to “remove almost all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by early 2008.” Thirty-five percent (35%) disagree while 9% are not sure. Women are more likely than men to want troops home but there is no significant gender gap when it comes to the question of whether Democrats have done enough to change the President’s policies.

However, while 56% want to see combat troops out of Iraq, only 23% believe that goal is even somewhat likely to be achieved. The gap between the 56% who want the troops home and the 23% who think that is likely to happen is a key cause of voter frustration. It also highlights why 50% of Americans say the President is doing a poor job handling the situation in Iraq. Seventy-three percent (73%) of American voters say it is not likely that U.S. troops will leave Iraq by early next year.

As you would expect, there are strong partisan differences on these issues. Seventy-seven percent (77%) of Democratic voters believe that Democrats in Congress have not done enough to change the President’s policies in Iraq. Only 26% of Republicans agree.

Eighty percent (80%) of Democrats want combat troops out of Iraq by early next year. That view is shared by 31% of Republicans and 53% of those not affiliated with either major political party.

While most Americans say the Democrats in Congress have not done enough to change the policies in Iraq, voters continue to trust Democrats more than Republicans on this issue. The latest update of Rasmussen Reports’ tracking on this issue found that 48% of voters trust Democrats while 38% trust the GOP. Another survey found that pessimism about Iraq is growing.

The current survey also found that just 6% of voters say it is Very Likely Iraq will remain a democracy after U.S. troops leave. Another 24% say that outcome is Somewhat Likely.

Eleven percent (11%) say it is Very Likely Iraq will remain an ally of the United States after U.S. troops leave. Twenty-nine percent (29%) say that upbeat assessment is Somewhat Likely. Republicans are more optimistic than Democrats or unaffiliated voters.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/53_want_dem_congress_to_push_bush_harder_on_iraq

[Trueblue]

Yeah, the problem is just so easy to fix. :lol

I think this sour grapes attitude is probably par for the course for Republicans right now.

[AYFR]

Yeah, the problem is just so easy to fix. :lol


Yes it is, get rid of both the Dems and Reps in Congress right now.

[Cookie Parker]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/46_say_congress_doing_poor_job_16_say_good_or_exce llent

Like I said they are not even trying.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/53_want_dem_congress_to_push_bush_harder_on_iraq


Since the elite corporate media isn't passing on anything but that which you believe in error, that the Democrats control congress, it would seem some Americans would see it that way...

Republicans are not interested in truth..just spin and what comes their way...

A lie is still a lie, no matter how many believe it...

[AYFR]

Since the elite corporate media isn't passing on anything but that which you believe in error, that the Democrats control congress, it would seem some Americans would see it that way...

Republicans are not interested in truth..just spin and what comes their way...

A lie is still a lie, no matter how many believe it...
A lie huh, tell many just how many bills that the Dems have tried to pass to stop funding this war? (Seeing is that is the ONLY way constitutionally they can stop it)