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Saguaro
09-28-2007, 05:23 PM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's major powers agreed on Friday to delay a vote on tougher sanctions on Iran until late November at the earliest, depending on reports by the U.N. nuclear watchdog and a European Union negotiator.

The United States and France had sought swifter action to step up economic and political pressure on the Islamic Republic over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment, which the West suspects is aimed at developing nuclear arms.

But foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, China, Germany, France and Britain asked EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana to hold more talks with Iran's national security chief, Ali Larijani, while the International Atomic Energy Agency tries to clear up doubts about past nuclear activities.

"We agree to finalize a text for a third U.N. Security Council sanctions resolution ... with the intention of bringing it to a vote ... unless the November reports of Dr. Solana and (IAEA chief) Dr. (Mohamed) ElBaradei show a positive outcome of their efforts," they said in a joint statement.

The decision to make another stab at the European Union-led diplomacy while brandishing the threat of fresh sanctions if it fails reflected a compromise among the major powers.

In a sign of the divisions, Russia stressed negotiations while the United States emphasized the threat of sanctions.

"What we discussed is to concentrate on doing everything to help negotiations to succeed," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters.

In contrast, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the big powers would carefully assess whether the IAEA and EU make headway, adding "we can move to Security Council sanctions should there not be progress."

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said the ministers reviewed a list of 14 possible sanctions, ranging from financial and investment freezes to travel and visa bans, an arms embargo and possible restrictions on oil trading.

He told reporters it was a success that the international community had remained united, praising Lavrov for dropping his opposition to any mention of the prospect of more sanctions.

The group's political directors are likely to meet twice over the next month to draft a new sanctions resolution ahead of reports from Solana and the IAEA in late November.

"UNITY OVER HASTE"

A European diplomat involved in the process called the statement "a victory for unity over haste," noting that tough negotiations lay ahead both on the content of possible sanctions and on what would constitute progress by Iran.

Russia and China opposed an early move to tighten economic sanctions, saying Tehran should be given more time to cooperate with the IAEA to shed light on its past activities.

Iran's foreign minister, speaking as the major powers met elsewhere in New York, defiantly said sanctions would not change what he called Tehran's "rational" nuclear policy.

Manouchehr Mottaki told the Asia Society: "Sanctions as a political tool for exerting pressure is ineffective in making Iran change its basically rational policy choice."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's defiant statements at the U.N. General Assembly this week that the nuclear issue is "closed" and that Tehran will ignore the Security Council appeared to have little effect on the debate.

Iran says its nuclear program is to generate power so that it can export more of its valuable oil and gas.

Despite Western criticism of ElBaradei's agreement with Iran on a work program to clear up questions on its past nuclear activities, seen in Washington as a tactic to stall sanctions and evade the central issue of halting enrichment, the major powers' statement welcomed the accord.

"We call upon Iran, however, to produce tangible results rapidly and effectively by clarifying all outstanding issues and concerns on Iran's nuclear program, including topics which could have a military nuclear dimension," the ministers said.

Rice held separate back-to-back meetings, first with all six foreign ministers, then with just the three Europeans.

Diplomats said the purpose was to press the Europeans to take their own measures to restrict trade credits, investment and financial flows with Iran if Washington could not get Moscow and Beijing to agree to early U.N. action.

Many European officials were hesitant about acting outside the U.N. framework, arguing that the unity of the international community so far has surprised and shaken Iranian leaders, and that any split would be easy for Tehran to exploit.

"I believe that what impresses Iran the most is the unity of the six. Iran's strategy is to split the six but it hasn't succeeded so far," said German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

European investment in Iran is already falling dramatically -- British Foreign Secretary David Miliband cited a 40 percent fall in the first half of this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070928/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_powers_dc;_ylt=AjYg8cEcPABScyeY7bPN.e .Oe8UF

quiet man
09-28-2007, 11:19 PM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's major powers agreed on Friday to delay a vote on tougher sanctions on Iran until late November at the earliest, depending on reports by the U.N. nuclear watchdog and a European Union negotiator.

The United States and France had sought swifter action to step up economic and political pressure on the Islamic Republic over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment, which the West suspects is aimed at developing nuclear arms.

But foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, China, Germany, France and Britain asked EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana to hold more talks with Iran's national security chief, Ali Larijani, while the International Atomic Energy Agency tries to clear up doubts about past nuclear activities.

"We agree to finalize a text for a third U.N. Security Council sanctions resolution ... with the intention of bringing it to a vote ... unless the November reports of Dr. Solana and (IAEA chief) Dr. (Mohamed) ElBaradei show a positive outcome of their efforts," they said in a joint statement.

The decision to make another stab at the European Union-led diplomacy while brandishing the threat of fresh sanctions if it fails reflected a compromise among the major powers.

In a sign of the divisions, Russia stressed negotiations while the United States emphasized the threat of sanctions.

"What we discussed is to concentrate on doing everything to help negotiations to succeed," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters.

In contrast, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the big powers would carefully assess whether the IAEA and EU make headway, adding "we can move to Security Council sanctions should there not be progress."

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said the ministers reviewed a list of 14 possible sanctions, ranging from financial and investment freezes to travel and visa bans, an arms embargo and possible restrictions on oil trading.

He told reporters it was a success that the international community had remained united, praising Lavrov for dropping his opposition to any mention of the prospect of more sanctions.

The group's political directors are likely to meet twice over the next month to draft a new sanctions resolution ahead of reports from Solana and the IAEA in late November.

"UNITY OVER HASTE"

A European diplomat involved in the process called the statement "a victory for unity over haste," noting that tough negotiations lay ahead both on the content of possible sanctions and on what would constitute progress by Iran.

Russia and China opposed an early move to tighten economic sanctions, saying Tehran should be given more time to cooperate with the IAEA to shed light on its past activities.

Iran's foreign minister, speaking as the major powers met elsewhere in New York, defiantly said sanctions would not change what he called Tehran's "rational" nuclear policy.

Manouchehr Mottaki told the Asia Society: "Sanctions as a political tool for exerting pressure is ineffective in making Iran change its basically rational policy choice."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's defiant statements at the U.N. General Assembly this week that the nuclear issue is "closed" and that Tehran will ignore the Security Council appeared to have little effect on the debate.

Iran says its nuclear program is to generate power so that it can export more of its valuable oil and gas.

Despite Western criticism of ElBaradei's agreement with Iran on a work program to clear up questions on its past nuclear activities, seen in Washington as a tactic to stall sanctions and evade the central issue of halting enrichment, the major powers' statement welcomed the accord.

"We call upon Iran, however, to produce tangible results rapidly and effectively by clarifying all outstanding issues and concerns on Iran's nuclear program, including topics which could have a military nuclear dimension," the ministers said.

Rice held separate back-to-back meetings, first with all six foreign ministers, then with just the three Europeans.

Diplomats said the purpose was to press the Europeans to take their own measures to restrict trade credits, investment and financial flows with Iran if Washington could not get Moscow and Beijing to agree to early U.N. action.

Many European officials were hesitant about acting outside the U.N. framework, arguing that the unity of the international community so far has surprised and shaken Iranian leaders, and that any split would be easy for Tehran to exploit.

"I believe that what impresses Iran the most is the unity of the six. Iran's strategy is to split the six but it hasn't succeeded so far," said German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

European investment in Iran is already falling dramatically -- British Foreign Secretary David Miliband cited a 40 percent fall in the first half of this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070928/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_powers_dc;_ylt=AjYg8cEcPABScyeY7bPN.e .Oe8UF
following the steps to a U.N. involvement of words leading up to our attack on their facilities! :drevil :akbar :ninja

Cookie Parker
09-29-2007, 05:20 AM
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's major powers agreed on Friday to delay a vote on tougher sanctions on Iran until late November at the earliest, depending on reports by the U.N. nuclear watchdog and a European Union negotiator.

The United States and France had sought swifter action to step up economic and political pressure on the Islamic Republic over its refusal to halt uranium enrichment, which the West suspects is aimed at developing nuclear arms.

But foreign ministers of the United States, Russia, China, Germany, France and Britain asked EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana to hold more talks with Iran's national security chief, Ali Larijani, while the International Atomic Energy Agency tries to clear up doubts about past nuclear activities.

"We agree to finalize a text for a third U.N. Security Council sanctions resolution ... with the intention of bringing it to a vote ... unless the November reports of Dr. Solana and (IAEA chief) Dr. (Mohamed) ElBaradei show a positive outcome of their efforts," they said in a joint statement.

The decision to make another stab at the European Union-led diplomacy while brandishing the threat of fresh sanctions if it fails reflected a compromise among the major powers.

In a sign of the divisions, Russia stressed negotiations while the United States emphasized the threat of sanctions.

"What we discussed is to concentrate on doing everything to help negotiations to succeed," Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters.

In contrast, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the big powers would carefully assess whether the IAEA and EU make headway, adding "we can move to Security Council sanctions should there not be progress."

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said the ministers reviewed a list of 14 possible sanctions, ranging from financial and investment freezes to travel and visa bans, an arms embargo and possible restrictions on oil trading.

He told reporters it was a success that the international community had remained united, praising Lavrov for dropping his opposition to any mention of the prospect of more sanctions.

The group's political directors are likely to meet twice over the next month to draft a new sanctions resolution ahead of reports from Solana and the IAEA in late November.

"UNITY OVER HASTE"

A European diplomat involved in the process called the statement "a victory for unity over haste," noting that tough negotiations lay ahead both on the content of possible sanctions and on what would constitute progress by Iran.

Russia and China opposed an early move to tighten economic sanctions, saying Tehran should be given more time to cooperate with the IAEA to shed light on its past activities.

Iran's foreign minister, speaking as the major powers met elsewhere in New York, defiantly said sanctions would not change what he called Tehran's "rational" nuclear policy.

Manouchehr Mottaki told the Asia Society: "Sanctions as a political tool for exerting pressure is ineffective in making Iran change its basically rational policy choice."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's defiant statements at the U.N. General Assembly this week that the nuclear issue is "closed" and that Tehran will ignore the Security Council appeared to have little effect on the debate.

Iran says its nuclear program is to generate power so that it can export more of its valuable oil and gas.

Despite Western criticism of ElBaradei's agreement with Iran on a work program to clear up questions on its past nuclear activities, seen in Washington as a tactic to stall sanctions and evade the central issue of halting enrichment, the major powers' statement welcomed the accord.

"We call upon Iran, however, to produce tangible results rapidly and effectively by clarifying all outstanding issues and concerns on Iran's nuclear program, including topics which could have a military nuclear dimension," the ministers said.

Rice held separate back-to-back meetings, first with all six foreign ministers, then with just the three Europeans.

Diplomats said the purpose was to press the Europeans to take their own measures to restrict trade credits, investment and financial flows with Iran if Washington could not get Moscow and Beijing to agree to early U.N. action.

Many European officials were hesitant about acting outside the U.N. framework, arguing that the unity of the international community so far has surprised and shaken Iranian leaders, and that any split would be easy for Tehran to exploit.

"I believe that what impresses Iran the most is the unity of the six. Iran's strategy is to split the six but it hasn't succeeded so far," said German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier.

European investment in Iran is already falling dramatically -- British Foreign Secretary David Miliband cited a 40 percent fall in the first half of this year.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070928/ts_nm/nuclear_iran_powers_dc;_ylt=AjYg8cEcPABScyeY7bPN.e .Oe8UF

You KNOW this pisses Bush off. He has wanted all along to railroad the US into a quick war...Cheney has tried to start one for along time...Halliburton must be slipping in its corporate welfare check ratings.

Bush is being opposed by China and Russia and we all best take count. China isn't going to sit back and let US rule....they have been big dogs in the world longer than we were....they know how to get the barking dog to be quiet.

issac the dragon
09-30-2007, 04:21 PM
Still sounds exactly like the lead up to the Iraqi war. So we bomb, then invade Iran, find no nukes, but we have to stay there. We will have destroyed their entire infrastructure, their government, police and army. Boy, we'll have to fix it because we broke it. How many broken countries can we afford to spend twenty years fixing. And we can't bring the innocent dead back to life.

issac the dragon
09-30-2007, 04:29 PM
U.S. coordinates with Gulf nations on possible air strikes. “The American air force is working with military leaders from the Gulf to train and prepare Arab air forces for a possible war with Iran, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal.”

UPDATE: “John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations, told Tory delegates today that efforts by the UK and the EU to negotiate with Iran had failed and that he saw no alternative to a pre-emptive strike on suspected nuclear facilities in the country.” Thinkprogress.org

This means what? The Saudis and Kuwaiitis get to pay there debts to the US? That the decision to bomb Iran has already been made doesn't suprise me. I hate, hate, hate George Bush. Why doesn't the world bring that monster to trial as a war criminal? You'll never read the true number of innocent children we kill.

Cookie Parker
09-30-2007, 07:50 PM
It's all for money...to get us taxpayers to give up our great grandchildren's right to fair pay by high taxes so their great grandchildren don't have to work ....

To Bush, the only innocent life are those of the upper 1%...he could care about children..look at how he turns his back to those in America without insurance.

Bush is a monster...and he will pay...in the world courts, as will we, the people, for not impeaching him and for putting him in office....twice..

Saguaro
09-30-2007, 07:56 PM
I can sleep easy at night, knowing I never voted for Bush

issac the dragon
09-30-2007, 09:59 PM
I didn't vote for him either, but I can lose sleep over my grandchildren having to pay for this mess. If they are allowed to live.

AYFR
09-30-2007, 10:14 PM
:roll