Jena 6

[MW]

RACIAL tensions at a Louisiana school after white students hung three nooses from a "white tree", yesterday culminated in an anti-racism march by up to 20,000.

The protesters were furious that the students, who hung up the nooses after some black students dared to sit under the tree last September, were not punished.

They were incensed that six black students were charged with attempted murder after bashing a white student.

The white student was bashed unconscious in December, but was able to go to an event at Jena High a few hours later.

The bashing followed months of inter-racial fights on and off campus after the nooses were hung up.

Someone lit a fire in the school after an administrator overturned the principal's recommendation to expel the three white students responsible for the noose threat.

At yesterday's march, reminiscent of the 1950s civil rights movement, protesters chanted "No Justice! No Peace!". Many touched the stump of the 'white tree'.

Civil rights leader the Rev Al Sharpton told CNN: "It's amazing. You see the beginning of a movement that will deal with the criminal justice system in this country,".

After most of the fights, the white students escaped any criminal charges.

But the black students, known as the Jena Six, were charged with attempted murder, although the charges were later reduced.

All but one of them are free on bail. The sixth, Mychal Bell, has been unable to post $90,000 bail.

President George W Bush said yesterday: "The events in Louisiana have saddened me. And I understand the emotions. . . . All of us in America want there to be, you know, fairness when it comes to justice."

Tina Jones, mother of one of the six, Carwin Jones, said: "It's not equal. The black people get the harsher extent of the law whereas white people get a slap on the wrist."

District attorney Reed Walters said the case "is not and never has been about race." He said the hanging up of the nooses had been an awful "vicious and crude statement" but he could not prosecute because it did not qualify as a hate-crime.~ AFP

There's more than enough stories on this in the news. I have some questions about this . . .


Why was there a "white tree" in this day and age?
Why did the black student have to ask permission from the principal to stand beneath it?
Why did the school administration overturn the decision to expell the white students?
Why wasn't the hanging of nooses considered a "hate crime"?
How can the DA say this wasn't about race?


It seems that this whole situation could have been avoided and the administration should be answering some serious questions about their role in this event.

[bbrown]

Good questions, but I think 1-3 aren't really covered in anything I've read about the case. So I'll confine my response to 4 and 5.

I think putting up some nooses is different than beating someone up. It's not a hate crime because there was no action involved. What if, instead of actual nooses, the students had made signs with pictures of nooses? And shouted racial epithets to onlookers? Should they be prosecuted? Obviously not because they're entitled to their opinions (no matter how repugnant) and they can say what they like. Until and unless someone was put in one of those nooses, no crime was committed.

The district attorney can say this isn't about race in the sense that he's just prosecuting some assailants. He doesn't exactly care what motivated their beating someone unconscious. The issue is the deed. The perpetrators, however, should be the ones, if anyone, being prosecuted for a hate crime.

Bill

[Trueblue]

There's more than enough stories on this in the news. I have some questions about this . . .


Why was there a "white tree" in this day and age?
Why did the black student have to ask permission from the principal to stand beneath it?
Why did the school administration overturn the decision to expell the white students?
Why wasn't the hanging of nooses considered a "hate crime"?
How can the DA say this wasn't about race?


It seems that this whole situation could have been avoided and the administration should be answering some serious questions about their role in this event.

Good points. The black students have to be punished for assaulting a fellow student. And the charges should be based on the injuries inflicted. Isn't that how it usually works? If no one is seriously hurt in a fight, then the charges are going to be much less than if somebody has to go to the hospital.

But the situation that led up to this is appalling.

Hanging nooses may not be a hate crime, but it is unacceptable harassment. The students involved in that should have been expelled/sent to alternative school; that would have sent a powerful message about how the administration viewed racial harassment.

[MW]

I see hanging nooses on the same level as burning crosses and painting swastikias - it is an act to instill fear into a certain race - reminding them of what has (and can) happen (again) if they "step out of line"

[Iggy]

The district attorney can say this isn't about race in the sense that he's just prosecuting some assailants. He doesn't exactly care what motivated their beating someone unconscious. The issue is the deed. The perpetrators, however, should be the ones, if anyone, being prosecuted for a hate crime.

By "perpetrators", do you mean the Jena 6 or the three white kids with their nooses?

[doodlebug]

My family lives in Jena. The 3 white students were suspended from school for their actions, but the administrator overturned that decision. The one that should be answering for this is the administrator.

I am also wondering why in this day and age was there a "white" tree and why did the black student need to ask to stand under it? the whole situation makes me sad.

[bbrown]

By "perpetrators", do you mean the Jena 6 or the three white kids with their nooses?

The ones who have actually committed a crime: those who beat up another person.

Bill

[Oceanbreeze]

I see hanging nooses on the same level as burning crosses and painting swastikias - it is an act to instill fear into a certain race - reminding them of what has (and can) happen (again) if they "step out of line"

I agree.

[quiet man]

where is the justice department and the BFMB through all this bs?
must be the whole slower than slow republican response to any problems of the people!

[bbrown]

And let me just state that I find the behavior of the white students throughout this episode quite odious and immoral. I just don't find it illegal.

Bill

[patriotsblade]

where is the justice department and the BFMB through all this bs?
must be the whole slower than slow republican response to any problems of the people!

Bear in mind this is the same administration that 'responded' to Hurricane Katrina.

[MW]

where is the justice department and the BFMB through all this bs?
must be the whole slower than slow republican response to any problems of the people!

I believe that the FBI reviewed it and decided it came under the State's jurisdiction.

However, the FBI is investigating a website in connection to this incident


FBI Reviewing Anti-Jena 6 Web Page (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070923/D8RR5C0O0.html)

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The FBI is reviewing a white supremacist Web site that purports to list the addresses of five of the six black teenagers accused of beating a white student in Jena and "essentially called for their lynching," an agency spokeswoman said Saturday.

Sheila Thorne, an agent in the FBI's New Orleans office, said authorities were reviewing whether the site breaks any federal laws. She said the FBI had "gathered intelligence on the matter," but declined to further explain how the agency got involved.

CNN first reported Friday about the Web site, which features a swastika, frequent use of racial slurs, a mailing address in Roanoke, Va., and phone numbers purportedly for some of the teens' families "in case anyone wants to deliver justice." That page is dated Thursday.

The Rev. Al Sharpton said in a statement Saturday that some of the families have received "almost around the clock calls of threats and harassment," and called on Gov. Kathleen Blanco to intervene.

A Blanco spokeswoman said the governor had asked law enforcement - primarily state police - to investigate.

"These people need more than an investigation. They need protection," the Rev. Jesse Jackson said. He said his organization would be in touch with President Bush's nominee for attorney general, Michael Mukasey.

"This is a test for the disposition of the Department of Justice to serve as an intervenor and a deterrent" to hate crimes and discrimination, Jackson said. He said federal marshals should protect the families.

Carolas Purvis, whose number was among three listed on the Web site, said she did not feel in danger. Purvis is the aunt of Bryant Purvis, who has yet to be arraigned. She said she has received a number of calls, some from people who say nothing, others to let her know that her number had been put on the site. One, Friday night, used the N-word to her young son, she said.

A dispatcher for the LaSalle Parish Sheriff's Department said no one in the office Saturday could say whether any threats had been reported.

Of the two other numbers listed as "active" on the Web site, one was not answered Saturday; the other yielded a constant busy signal.

On Thursday, thousands of demonstrators marched in a civil rights demonstration in support of the so-called Jena 6. The six black teens were arrested after a December attack on a white student - the culmination of fights between blacks and whites.

Of the six teens arrested, five initially were charged with attempted second-degree murder; charges for four have been reduced as they were arraigned. Charges against the sixth teen, booked as a juvenile, are sealed.

Mychal Bell is the only one to have been tried so far. A state appeals court recently threw out his conviction for aggravated second-degree battery, saying he couldn't be tried as an adult. He remained in jail pending an appeal.

William A. "Bill" White, listed as the Web site's editor and commander of the American National Socialist Workers Party, did not immediately answer an e-mail to his address. Calls to one of the two William Whites listed in Roanoke were not answered; the other said he was not involved with the site.

Blanco said Saturday that harassing families involved in the case "cannot and will not be tolerated."

"Public attacks on private citizens done out of ignorance and hatred is appalling, and anyone who stoops to such unspeakable persecution will be investigated and subject to the full penalty of law," she said

[Semantics]

Why is there a "white tree" in this day and age?

Because discrimination against blacks is still alive and well. These days we are more likely to see the de facto forms of indirect/ institutional discrimination than we are to see nooses hanging from trees, but it's out there and it's just about everywhere.

[Trueblue]

And let me just state that I find the behavior of the white students throughout this episode quite odious and immoral. I just don't find it illegal.

Bill

What about a violation of civil rights, through harassment. Hanging nooses is a death threat. As far as I know, that is illegal.

[Kurtz]

Here's a Supreme Court case for y'all to peek at:
R.A.V. v. ST. PAUL, 505 U.S. 377 (1992) (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=505&invol=377)

[sparks]

What about a violation of civil rights, through harassment. Hanging nooses is a death threat. As far as I know, that is illegal.

It's definitely intimidation at the least.

[AYFR]

The "white tree" was a stupid and ignorant idea. The nooses were also a stupid idea not to mention a very hateful and racist thing. The kids that hung them should also have charges filed against them and have to go to court.

With that all said the "Jena Six" were innocent kids that just happened to get riled up. Each one of them had rap sheets and prior criminal actions and they should also be held accountable for their actions.

[Saguaro]

Ya know, I just have a problem with rep sheets for young black kids in Mississippi.I don't believe it

[doodlebug]

My mom sent me an interesting article...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/opinion/26walters.html?th&emc=th

Jena is in Louisiana

[AYFR]

Ya know, I just have a problem with rep sheets for young black kids in Mississippi.I don't believe it

Hmm good thing this was in Louisana and not Mississippi then huh.

[Saguaro]

Ok,young balck males in Louisiana,it still applies.

[AYFR]

Ok,young balck males in Louisiana,it still applies.

It is a good thing that you are not a cop there then isn't it. Being in a certain area doesn't mean that they are any less likely to be criminals. Oh I forgot because it is the south it MUST be a racist thing and EVERY black person with a rap sheet only has it because the "MAN" is holding them down.

What a joke.

[issac the dragon]

A noose used in the fashion the ones in Jena were is a death threat. Has been all my life. And I don't buy the crap that the prosecutor put out there. There was no deadly weapon used. He was kicked. The police in the state of Wash. deny that their baton is a deadly weapon, but a few whacks over the head with it will kill. The boy was not hurt badly enough to bring a charge of attemped murder, and I don't believe a white boy would have been so charged.

I don't know what happened to provoke the attack on the white boy. I have heard his mother's opinion. And I have heard the opinion of some students at the school. They are very different. Imagine, a mother who thinks her boy is innocent of any wrong doing. Hey, we get paid to say stuff like that. IMO, any school or town that allows white only trees is guilty of rank bigotry and can expect such incidents to occur.

[AYFR]

A noose used in the fashion the ones in Jena were is a death threat. Has been all my life. And I don't buy the crap that the prosecutor put out there. There was no deadly weapon used. He was kicked. The police in the state of Wash. deny that their baton is a deadly weapon, but a few whacks over the head with it will kill. The boy was not hurt badly enough to bring a charge of attemped murder, and I don't believe a white boy would have been so charged.

I don't know what happened to provoke the attack on the white boy. I have heard his mother's opinion. And I have heard the opinion of some students at the school. They are very different. Imagine, a mother who thinks her boy is innocent of any wrong doing. Hey, we get paid to say stuff like that. IMO, any school or town that allows white only trees is guilty of rank bigotry and can expect such incidents to occur.
I agree with that. And I also agree the the threee kids that put the nooses up should be brought up on charges. I just happen to also believe that the "Jena Six" should be held accountable for their actions. Not attempted murder but assualt charges.

[MW]

I agree with that. And I also agree the the threee kids that put the nooses up should be brought up on charges. I just happen to also believe that the "Jena Six" should be held accountable for their actions. Not attempted murder but assualt charges.

I agree too! I want to know why school administration overturned the suspensions . . . therein lays the real problem

[doodlebug]

After talking to my mom:

The noose kids were initially expelled for their actions, but the administrator bumped it down to in-house suspension and alternative school. They were punished for their actions, just not severely enough IMO.

[Trueblue]

After talking to my mom:

The noose kids were initially expelled for their actions, but the administrator bumped it down to in-house suspension and alternative school. They were punished for their actions, just not severely enough IMO.

Which sounds like a possible violation of school policy, IMO. And exactly why the claims of unequal justice have legs.

The "white tree" was a stupid and ignorant idea. The nooses were also a stupid idea not to mention a very hateful and racist thing. The kids that hung them should also have charges filed against them and have to go to court.

With that all said the "Jena Six" were innocent kids that just happened to get riled up. Each one of them had rap sheets and prior criminal actions and they should also be held accountable for their actions.

I found that one of them had some prior legal problems, but not all of them. Do you have a link that shows that EACH of them had a rap sheet?

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/NEWS03/708250353/1062/NEWS03

[Trueblue]

Here's a Supreme Court case for y'all to peek at:
R.A.V. v. ST. PAUL, 505 U.S. 377 (1992) (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=505&invol=377)

Thanks for the link, I had wondered about this.

[Trueblue]

Which sounds like a possible violation of school policy, IMO. And exactly why the claims of unequal justice have legs.



I found that one of them had some prior legal problems, but not all of them. Do you have a link that shows that EACH of them had a rap sheet?

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/NEWS03/708250353/1062/NEWS03

Is this something that they are saying on Fox News, or on the radio? Do all of these kids have prior legal problems?

[Capitalist]

Good points. The black students have to be punished for assaulting a fellow student. And the charges should be based on the injuries inflicted. Isn't that how it usually works? If no one is seriously hurt in a fight, then the charges are going to be much less than if somebody has to go to the hospital.

But the situation that led up to this is appalling.

Hanging nooses may not be a hate crime, but it is unacceptable harassment. The students involved in that should have been expelled/sent to alternative school; that would have sent a powerful message about how the administration viewed racial harassment.

It was not a fight. The one kid they kept in jail until yesterday sucker punched the white kid from behind knocking him unconcious. The others then proceeded to kick him while on the floor. He had to go to the hospital.

He had nothing to do with the noose hanging. He had said nothing to these black kids.

The only reason they stopped beating him was because they were forced to stop. That means their intent certainly was to kill or seriously harm him.

The one convicted as an adult, has a record that already includes 4 assaults.

If this is what the civil rights movement has come to, defending obvious scum, then it is already over.

[Trueblue]

It was not a fight. The one kid they kept in jail until yesterday sucker punched the white kid from behind knocking him unconcious. The others then proceeded to kick him while on the floor. He had to go to the hospital.

He had nothing to do with the noose hanging. He had said nothing to these black kids.

The only reason they stopped beating him was because they were forced to stop. That means their intent certainly was to kill or seriously harm him.

The one convicted as an adult, has a record that already includes 4 assaults.

If this is what the civil rights movement has come to, defending obvious scum, then it is already over.

Not a single person here has defended their actions.

Not.A.Single.Person.

I have no idea if the boy said anything to them or not, and I would appreciate your source for that claim.

[Rockin Rodney]

What about a violation of civil rights, through harassment. Hanging nooses is a death threat. As far as I know, that is illegal.

How is a death threat if its not directed at anyone in particular? Is getting behind the wheel when your drunk a death threat? I have a Bowie Knife I carry when hunting, should I pass a couple of Blacks with the knife on my side, is that a death threat? There were no direct threats towards anyone, and if you just burn a Cross, its not a death threat, intimidation maybe, but death threat no? See TB Liberals can take nothing, spin it and spin it, along with conjecture and LIES and eventually convince you that the Easterly rising of the sun is a product of Global Warming or some bullshit!

These Blacks have criminal records, and they maliciously beat a student, and Jesse & Al have convinced MORONS that is OK, its the ROPE thats dangerous to America!:mw:mw:mw

[Yellowdogtexan]

My mom sent me an interesting article...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/opinion/26walters.html?th&emc=th

Jena is in LouisianaThis guy is a joke and should be runned out of office. He went to the school with a police escort and threathened the African American students with prosecution if they did not behave including threathening to manufacture charges with a stroke of his pen. The attempted murder charge and the assualt with a deadly weapon charges are bogus type of charges and these charges were manufactured with a stroke of his pen.

I understand that Judiciary Chair Conyers is contemplating calling this so-called lawyer to testify before the House Judiciary Committee. I hope that this happens because it would be fun to see this bigot take the Fifth. This guy is an idiot but it is clear that he has violated some civil rights and the Democrats should be in charge of the DOJ in early January of 2009. If this bigot testifies before the House Judiciary Committee and does not take the Fifth, then he is even dumber than he appears in this article.

[Trueblue]

How is a death threat if its not directed at anyone in particular? Is getting behind the wheel when your drunk a death threat? I have a Bowie Knife I carry when hunting, should I pass a couple of Blacks with the knife on my side, is that a death threat? There were no direct threats towards anyone, and if you just burn a Cross, its not a death threat, intimidation maybe, but death threat no? See TB Liberals can take nothing, spin it and spin it, along with conjecture and LIES and eventually convince you that the Easterly rising of the sun is a product of Global Warming or some bullshit!

These Blacks have criminal records, and they maliciously beat a student, and Jesse & Al have convinced MORONS that is OK, its the ROPE thats dangerous to America!:mw:mw:mw

You are making a ridiculous comparison, RR. Your spin cycle is in overdrive.

Carrying a knife when you are hunting is normal procedure. How else are you going to dress any game that you get? Hanging a noose is a threat of death by lynching. Duh.

[AYFR]

Which sounds like a possible violation of school policy, IMO. And exactly why the claims of unequal justice have legs.



I found that one of them had some prior legal problems, but not all of them. Do you have a link that shows that EACH of them had a rap sheet?

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070825/NEWS03/708250353/1062/NEWS03

I'll see if I can find it. Finding rap sheets on juveniels is hard. Not that it matters anyway, the commited a crime and should pay for it, as should the noose hangers.

[Trueblue]

I'll see if I can find it. Finding rap sheets on juveniels is hard. Not that it matters anyway, the commited a crime and should pay for it, as should the noose hangers.

It is hard to find such info on juveniles, but you did say this as if it was a fact that you had heard or read somewhere.

[AYFR]

It is hard to find such info on juveniles, but you did say this as if it was a fact that you had heard or read somewhere.

I heard it but can't remember where.

[MW]

Bell's defense attorney, Louis Scott, pointed out that Bell's father, Marcus Jones, and a number of area ministers have pledged their support to Bell to keep him on the right path.

Jones testified that he already had scheduled an interview for his son at Holy Savior Menard Central High School in Alexandria to see if Bell could attend there if released on bond. Jones testified that he didn't move back to Jena until February — after all of the incidents involving his son — but that he was committed to staying here to exercise greater supervision over Bell.

Jones said he had been living in Dallas for the past seven years.

Well, let's put dad up for "father of the year" award! :clap

Umm, where in the hell has he been for the seven years that his son needed a father?

[MW]

Now this puts an interesting twist on things . .

So let me start with the nooses that are supposed to be an ignored hate crime. This seems like a credible report from a local: (http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/09/jena-searching-for-facts.html)

The square at Jena High School has been known for the center of school spirit and/or pranks for many years. I've seen everything from "funerals" of opponent football teams to the tree and surrounding area covered with toilet tissue. Jena High School is known for themed activities surrounding football games. This particular week, JHS was playing a team in which the mascot is Cowboys! Hence, the nooses in the tree..."hang'em high!" Not for one moment did the thought of racism cross my mind or the majority of the others. It was football season. We were playing the cowboys. The kids, girls and boys, wore boots to school and had a western themed pep rally! Nooses = cowboys and horse theives in my world. Maybe I've watched too much Gunsmoke, but racism was not even a thought. Due to the reaction of ADULTS in the black community, not the kids at the school, the boys were suspended. The entire punishment for those boys was never published because of the confidentiality of the issue. However, the boys were suspended. They and
their families were required to go to counseling. The boys had hours of community service. The boys and their families continue to receive threatening phone calls, but yet no one has addressed that issue.

Eddie also had this to say about athletic privilege:

The “Jena Six” have repeatedly been held up as heroes by much of the race-based community and called “innocent students” by the national media. Some of these students have reputations in Jena for intimidating and sometimes beating other students. They have vandalized and destroyed both school property and community property. Some of the Jena Six have been involved in crimes not only in LaSalle Parish but also in surrounding parishes. For the most part, coaches and other adults have prevented them from being held accountable for the reign of terror they have presided over in Jena. Despite intervention by adults wanting to give them chances due their athletic potential, most of the Jena Six have extensive juvenile records. Yet their parents keep insisting that their children have never been in trouble before. These boys did not receive prejudicial treatment but received preferential treatment until things got out of hand.

And while we are on the subject of the jury, one of the assailants has already been tried. Much has been made of the fact that the jury was all white. But of the 150 people receiving jury summons, only 50 showed up, and there were no blacks in that number. Sorry, but lack of performance of civic duty is not the DA's fault.

[MW]

Ummm, not so innocent . . .

Three months prior to that attack, Bell committed two violent crimes while on probation for a battery Christmas Day 2005, according to testimony. Later that same week, he led the Jena Giants to a shutout victory in a football game against the Buckeye Panthers. Bell was adjudicated — the juvenile equivalent to a conviction — of battery Sept. 2 and criminal damage to property Sept. 3, said Cynthia Bradford, LaSalle Parish deputy clerk. . . .

LaSalle District Attorney Reed Walters pointed out that Bell was placed on probation until his 18th birthday — Jan. 18, 2008 — after an incident of battery Dec. 25, 2005. After being placed on probation, he was adjudicated of three other crimes, the two in September and another charge of criminal damage to property that occurred on July 25, 2006.

[Trueblue]

MW, that explanation for the nooses is a bit lame, considering the background of the story [the "white kids tree"], and considering that this hasn't been brought up till now.

[Rockin Rodney]

You are making a ridiculous comparison, RR. Your spin cycle is in overdrive.

Carrying a knife when you are hunting is normal procedure. How else are you going to dress any game that you get? Hanging a noose is a threat of death by lynching. Duh.

OK True Blue, say you go out in your backyard and you hang a rope over your apple tree, in the form of a noose, and there is no one around and no one sees it, EXCEPT, Nosey Alma from 3 doors down. Are you then guilty of a death threat towards Alma?

Where we have gone in this Nation thanks to slime ball Lawyers, the HATE groups of the Far Left, and the sheep from minorities, gays etc..is to CONVICT by symbolism! A kid merely draws a picture of a gun, and the Liberal GEEK squad of NEA teachers swarm him and expel him, for a crime they concocted!

You go to a gun show or a Wal Mart display case, and you see guns, so the Liberal conclusion is guns can kill, these guns are on display, therefore these guns are Death threats, so lets ban the 2cd Amendment!

You DODGED as normal part of the question! IS A CAR BEING MANNED BY A DRUNK DRIVER A DEATH THREAT? Hell I know a hangman's noose is stupid, UNLESS its outside the Senate or House of Reps, but again YOU and YOUR sheep are turning SYMBOLISM into a HATE crime! IGNORANT!

[Rockin Rodney]

Well, let's put dad up for "father of the year" award! :clap

Umm, where in the hell has he been for the seven years that his son needed a father?

Where do most of them go when responsibility sets in, they run for the woods, OR they play the Welfare game, where he leaves and she applies, then he returns once in awhile, to dip his wick and get some cash!:hotdog

[Trueblue]

OK True Blue, say you go out in your backyard and you hang a rope over your apple tree, in the form of a noose, and there is no one around and no one sees it, EXCEPT, Nosey Alma from 3 doors down. Are you then guilty of a death threat towards Alma?

Where we have gone in this Nation thanks to slime ball Lawyers, the HATE groups of the Far Left, and the sheep from minorities, gays etc..is to CONVICT by symbolism! A kid merely draws a picture of a gun, and the Liberal GEEK squad of NEA teachers swarm him and expel him, for a crime they concocted!

You go to a gun show or a Wal Mart display case, and you see guns, so the Liberal conclusion is guns can kill, these guns are on display, therefore these guns are Death threats, so lets ban the 2cd Amendment!

You DODGED as normal part of the question! IS A CAR BEING MANNED BY A DRUNK DRIVER A DEATH THREAT? Hell I know a hangman's noose is stupid, UNLESS its outside the Senate or House of Reps, but again YOU and YOUR sheep are turning SYMBOLISM into a HATE crime! IGNORANT!

Not responding to all of your post is not a dodge. I just can't wade through it all, you make little sense and you don't hold my attention.

A car being manned by a drunk driver can kill. How is it a symbolic death threat, though? What are you talking about?

Have you ever heard of organized crime types sending someone a fish? Is that a symbolic message, or is it a dinner?

These nooses were not in a private yard. They were at a public school. Your hypothetical situations make no sense. The NEA doesn't expel kids for drawing guns. In fact, the NEA can't expel anybody. You listen to too much talk radio.

[Yellowdogtexan]

Again, the use of a noose in the south is a clear threat. Heck, I am a scout leader and we caution our kids about showing the hangman's noose in public.

I am so glad the Mo Dees and the ACLU got this kid out of jail. Now when the Democrats take control of the DOJ in January of 2009, this DA needs to worry about any calls from the DOJ. This DA has crossed the line and needs to be sanctioned.

[MW]

MW, that explanation for the nooses is a bit lame, considering the background of the story [the "white kids tree"], and considering that this hasn't been brought up till now.

I just post what I read . . . I didn't write it! :lol

[Trueblue]

I just post what I read . . . I didn't write it! :lol

I understand-I just think it's a bit late in the day for this explanation to come out.

[issac the dragon]

Given the kind of justice that was meted out to black kids in Jena, and probably surrounding areas, I'd like to know exactly what the kid charged with previous crimes did. I've seen how they deal with black on white crime and white on black crime, and I just wonder if that was blown way out of proportion too.

[Saguaro]

OK True Blue, say you go out in your backyard and you hang a rope over your apple tree, in the form of a noose, and there is no one around and no one sees it, EXCEPT, Nosey Alma from 3 doors down. Are you then guilty of a death threat towards Alma?

Where we have gone in this Nation thanks to slime ball Lawyers, the HATE groups of the Far Left, and the sheep from minorities, gays etc..is to CONVICT by symbolism! A kid merely draws a picture of a gun, and the Liberal GEEK squad of NEA teachers swarm him and expel him, for a crime they concocted!

You go to a gun show or a Wal Mart display case, and you see guns, so the Liberal conclusion is guns can kill, these guns are on display, therefore these guns are Death threats, so lets ban the 2cd Amendment!

You DODGED as normal part of the question! IS A CAR BEING MANNED BY A DRUNK DRIVER A DEATH THREAT? Hell I know a hangman's noose is stupid, UNLESS its outside the Senate or House of Reps, but again YOU and YOUR sheep are turning SYMBOLISM into a HATE crime! IGNORANT!

The nooses were hung in public for everyone to see.That is a HUGE difference

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The nooses were hung in public for everyone to see.That is a HUGE difference


In this case those nooses were for nothing more than intimidation. It was a warning of sorts.


Besides, nooses are hardly considered a "yard decoration" for Pete's sake!

I agree with you Sag. :yep

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This is good news. The crazy and bigoted judge was removed over his objections http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25969482/NEW ORLEANS - The judge overseeing the criminal cases for the remaining Jena Six defendants was removed against his will Friday for making questionable remarks about the teenagers.

Judge J.P. Mauffray Jr. had acknowledged calling the teens "trouble makers" and "a violent bunch" but insisted he could be impartial. Judge Thomas M. Yeager, who was asked by defense attorneys to review the case, found there was an appearance of impropriety and recused Mauffray.

"The right to a fair and impartial judge is of particular importance in the present cases," Yeager wrote.

Six black teens were arrested and initially charged with attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder in connection with a December 4, 2006, attack on fellow Jena High School student Justin Barker, who is white. The charges were later reduced.It is too bad that they can not also remove the nutcase who is the DA in this town while they are at it.