CRIMINAL CHURCHES

[issac the dragon]

Some churches in this country are flagrantly breaking the law by providing sanctuary to illegal aliens. One of the primary reasons Americans don't want immigrants to come to this country is that they ignore our laws, and now some churches are aiding and abeting them in this.

Churches may have the right, but I don't think legally they do, to follow a higher law. But I do believe that if they will insist on doing so, they should have their tax exempt status removed.

It has been established in the SC that if a church behaves in a political way, it loses that status. And flaunting America's law is certainly political. There behavior speaks to the government that the government is wrong. The way to determine that is within the law. Change the law if you don't like it. Don't break it. The churches are breaking the law. Aiding and abeting. They should be arrested and prosecuted. And lose their tax exemptin.

[April15]

As much as I do not care for religion I find that breaking the law on principle is very American. I am more concerned with faith based government recognition than with hiding blacks errr mexicans..

[Saguaro]

As much as I do not care for religion I find that breaking the law on principle is very American. I am more concerned with faith based government recognition than with hiding blacks errr mexicans..

Bush has shown all of us the way

[Wabash]

Nothing new here...the churches have been hiding people for centuries...

[kaaryn]

I agree with you, Issac. If they were providing sanctuary to refugees, that would be a different matter. Here in NS there was a case of that a few years ago where they were giving sanctuary to a women who had been deported, because to return home was a genuine matter of life and limb, and they were giving her a place to hide out until the legalities could be sorted out.

But I don't think they ought to be providing the same thing to people who are just flat-out breaking the law to enter a country illegally. Even the Bible teaches us to follow the laws of the land and to live in peace with everyone.

[Ringo]

Some churches in this country are flagrantly breaking the law by providing sanctuary to illegal aliens. One of the primary reasons Americans don't want immigrants to come to this country is that they ignore our laws, and now some churches are aiding and abeting them in this.

Churches may have the right, but I don't think legally they do, to follow a higher law. But I do believe that if they will insist on doing so, they should have their tax exempt status removed.

It has been established in the SC that if a church behaves in a political way, it loses that status. And flaunting America's law is certainly political. There behavior speaks to the government that the government is wrong. The way to determine that is within the law. Change the law if you don't like it. Don't break it. The churches are breaking the law. Aiding and abeting. They should be arrested and prosecuted. And lose their tax exemptin.

Other than the Catholic Church, who is doing this? You are a good little Liberal chihuahua, as you ankle bite with your CHRISTAN attacks!

I suspect that if you went back to the book of Genesis, or the very begginning of Mans existence, you will probably see that God never said we should have Countries, borders, fences, boundaries, etc..! He might have meant the World to just live as one? Don't take this as a FACT, I am just speculating!

Hell I suspect the Church shielded the Kennedy's, and they are known killers & rapists! I suspect the Church sanctuaried a Mafia figure or two, so as Wabash says *yawn* nothing new here, except LIBERAL HYPE!

[Deadshot]

:huh:crap

[Wabash]

Other than the Catholic Church, who is doing this? You are a good little Liberal chihuahua, as you ankle bite with your CHRISTAN attacks!

I suspect that if you went back to the book of Genesis, or the very begginning of Mans existence, you will probably see that God never said we should have Countries, borders, fences, boundaries, etc..! He might have meant the World to just live as one? Don't take this as a FACT, I am just speculating!

Hell I suspect the Church shielded the Kennedy's, and they are known killers & rapists! I suspect the Church sanctuaried a Mafia figure or two, so as Wabash says *yawn* nothing new here, except LIBERAL HYPE!

:ohyeah
:paclap:paclap:paclap:paclap

:huh:crap

Yes DS, I think issac does believe it...:ohyeah

[Kitka]

I suppose one's view on this depends on how they view the role of 'the church'. Of course that will vary based on denomination. Many churches believe their role to be one of living God's message out on Earth. If one believes that God's message is to only honor the word of the government (which scripture could support), whether right or wrong, well, they probably won't open their arms and doors to illegal immigrants.

But if they view the word of God on caring for strangers and those in need over the rule of law, then yes, it makes sense for them to put above all else giving comfort to those seeking it.

I think the LCMS has a nice write up on their website on their middle of the road stance on the topic:

Millions of undocumented persons have come to the United States for many and various reasons. They have come to flee oppression of many sorts, including extreme poverty and hunger. They have come in order to make provision for their loved ones. They have come in order to end separation from loved ones. They have come illegally because they have deemed that the legal route is nearly impossible to maneuver. They have come because they can work, and they find dignity in labor. We recognize also that a small percentage have come for malevolent reasons.



Christians equally committed to God's Word may reasonably arrive at different conclusions on specific aspects of these issues and their resolution. However, this much is certain: God, in His Word, consistently shows His loving concern for “the stranger in our midst” and directs His people to do the same. The Children of Israel were told, “He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing. And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egypt” (Deuteronomy 10:18-19). God told Moses to tell the people, “When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the Lord your God” (Leviticus 19:33-34). Jesus said, “Whatever you did for one of the least of these … you did for me” (Matthew 25:40). We are reminded in Hebrews 13:2, “Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.”



The challenges of illegal immigration are real and solutions must be found. While we accept our Christian responsibility to care for those in need, it is not the role of the church to specify particular civil legislation, either to its own constituency or to the government. We do, however, pray that God will grant wisdom and discernment to our nation's elected leaders as they endeavor to provide appropriate solutions to this very real dilemma.



Meanwhile, in order to fulfill our Christian obligation, we also request that the charitable act of providing assistance to undocumented aliens not otherwise engaged in illegal activity not be criminalized ipso facto. We pray that appropriate solutions may be found, so that our assistance to those in need can also include helping persons become legal residents and citizens of this land of freedom and opportunity in which God has so richly blessed us.

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=10023